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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2017 04:30 GMT
#1585
Oatsmaster:

Reads Tumblewood mafia for the same post geript reads Tumblewood town for. Reads geript town because geript has a townread on Tumblewood (for a scummy post)??!?!?!? This doesn't make any sense.

Lightningstrike is mafia for:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?

Useless question.

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On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time

I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.

It's not exactly true...

From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.


The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.

On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.

nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.


1/20

If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim.
The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.

A few things here:
1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia.
2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.

On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.

On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.


geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.

I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.

I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.


This is my read. Accept it.

Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
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3/20



Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.


Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

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On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.

none of this actually makes anyone mafia.

Scumreads Vivax because Vivax trusts townie seal (on a dude he thinks is town). That's what mafia does? Calls someone town for that? Well, Oats has now solved the game. GG! Oh wait...

On August 26 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
If damdred is mafia, he has ulterior motives for town reading you so we cant trust him. You should know this.

This is an interesting post. geript is super town for townreading Tumblewood for garbage reasons but we can't tell Damdred's alignment when (if) he townreads LS at this point of the game. Very likely a mafia post.

Then i make a post on Artanis, Oats asks "who typed this". I tell him Artanis did. No follow up.

Then a scumread on Koshi. And a townread on HF (obviously since HF makes a post on Koshi).

100% unexplained scumread on Ruxxar. (probably because ruxxar wants to lynch koshi).
So today i want to lynch
TW
LS
Vivax
Koshi

Very good, now he has even more scumreads than enough.

Add Artanis as a scumread too.

On August 26 2017 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On August 26 2017 13:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Read the thread since I got home from taking care of college stuff. HF and Rayn thinks Koshi is mafia. ruxxar did answer my question and Damdred's question indirectly. People thinking skynx is scum still. I wondering if I wrong on any of my townreads I had earlier.
@Oats You probably interpreting wrong about the last part of that 2nd post. It doesn't feel like he was calling him bad instead of scum to me at least.

No dude, Vivax is saying that ruxx has been intentionally saying shit, but what he has shown is more accidentally bad than intentionally shit.

Oats i want you to tell me which posts of Ruxxar are what you describe here.

Oats never ever wants to convince anybody to vote for Tumblewood, yet he asks everyone else to convince people when someone calls someone else mafia. That is very likely mafia attitude. Seriously, if you don't believe me on this go read his filter.

On August 27 2017 03:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 27 2017 03:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 27 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 27 2017 03:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 27 2017 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote Ruxxar

right now this is a totally wasted vote. Bad rayn.

If Koshi flips town you're mafia. Because you jsut said every single vote other than Koshi is a wasted vote. So better hope he will flip mafia.

There is no one that really wants to lynch Rux, he has one vote and you arent doing SHIT to convince anyone to move to rux.
So its wasted.

But i only care about finding mafia, not really convincing people lately.

Looks like you did a heel of a job trying to convince people to lynch Tumblewood your super top scumread. I don't even fucking know why you think he is mafia...

He hasnt posted anything useful the entire game.

Also like ruxxar, no one thinks he really needs to die day 1 so Im not gonna push him NOW.

You see, the problem is that its 36 minutes to the lynch, so finding mafia doesnt really help when you cant actually get enough people to lynch them.

This is what i was talking about earlier. "We can only lynch Koshi because no time left".
That's an attitude mafia people have.

On August 27 2017 04:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
best mislynch at least.


TW/LS/VIivax

Artanis scumread has magically disappeared.

On August 27 2017 06:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On August 27 2017 06:34 ruXxar wrote:
Artanis joins the town circle.
His posting lately is top tier.

Why so scummy.

AND WHAT THE FUCK? The dude jsut came into the same conclusion than you did and you call him scum now when you alread yhave a scumlist of three people?

Why arent these two people fucking scumreading each other?
I would always be scumreading someone who says this kinda shit to me.




Oats just jumps from one place to another place. Very likely mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2017 04:32 GMT
#1586
Earlier i started reading Ruxxar's filter but i noticed i jsut wrote "terrible" after basically every post so someone else can do that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2017 04:34 GMT
#1587
On August 28 2017 13:00 ruXxar wrote:
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On August 28 2017 10:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 28 2017 07:03 ruXxar wrote:
Artanis is town 100%.

His observation on tumblewood does not come from mafia mindset.

By extension, tumblewood is also town.

What observation was that?

Also whos mafia? Thats not rayn.


1) this post is very likely to come from town:

Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 02:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Reading through from where I left off I am also pretty sure TW is town. A little bit for this post:
On August 26 2017 03:36 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 26 2017 03:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think ruxx is town too.

So today i want to lynch
TW
LS
Vivax
Koshi

wow i am impressed you basically managed to name my top 4 town in order

Exuding a lot of confidence. He has no problem going in against the flow of the thread, potentially making himself a focal point for little gain.

Also his filter is already longer than his last scumgame where he was lynched D4, and as long as the scumgame before that where he was lynched D3. Also a little bit due to the list post he made earlier with all his notes. From what I can tell he's never done that before and I just don't think it's something you start doing as mafia rather than as town.

Also also dinner ready!


The post he's quoting from TW is also very town.

2) My Poe is at something like Rayn, HF, Damdred.

I am sorry but i have to say this, if you believe this you are either mafia or the worst fucking player on this planet.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2017 04:38 GMT
#1588
Damdred i know you know LS' alignment by now so could you tell that so i don't have to bother.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2017 04:42 GMT
#1590
There is also this interesting thing.
Oatsmaster has called literally every single player in the game mafia, except for Ruxxar's scumreads, and Ruxxar doesn't have any problem with it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2017 04:55 GMT
#1592
The sad part is i cannot call ruxxar mafia because he is most likely not.
Although if he is in this game, i will probably lynch him in every game that will ever come after this one.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2017 05:00 GMT
#1594
On August 26 2017 21:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If Skynx is somehow town then geript will always be mafia. Also Koshi will always be town then. I heavily disagree with people who say geript and Koshi can be mafia together.

why?[/QUOTE]
I am going 100% back to this but backwards. And forwards. I do not think Skynx does what he did as mafia when he was up for lynch. It jsut doesn't make any sense.

Artanis and Oats too.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2017 05:02 GMT
#1596
On August 28 2017 13:59 ruXxar wrote:
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On August 28 2017 13:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is also this interesting thing.
Oatsmaster has called literally every single player in the game mafia, except for Ruxxar's scumreads, and Ruxxar doesn't have any problem with it.


You're getting sloppy Rayn.
You quoted this post like 2 seconds ago.
Vivax and koshi were both my scum reads.

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On August 26 2017 03:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think ruxx is town too.

So today i want to lynch
TW
LS
Vivax
Koshi

You just "PoE'd" Damdred/rayn/HF who are the only three people Oats hasn't called mafia this game.
Now go do whatever you want to, you are back into ignore pile.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2017 05:03 GMT
#1597
HF i told you we will lose this game if we don't work together D1.
See these people?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2017 05:06 GMT
#1598
##vote Artanis[xp]
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2017 05:07 GMT
#1599
I have 2% confidence Onegu will ever even seriously play this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2017 05:32 GMT
#1605
Holyflare and Damdred, when you have a chance could you guys explain to Skynx what happened there, please. Just do it before LYLO and i can just 100% ignore this one dude. I mean this guy cannot understand that if i am mafia a JK should always CC.

LS would have done it.
Oats would have done it.
Ruxxar knows he is not JK.
Skynx wouldn't have done what he did on D1 if he is JK (he would have cared more about being lynched).
Artanis would have claimed EoD.
HF would have 100% CC'd me (because he knows how to play this game).
Damdred will 100% CC me (because he knows how to play this game).
Tumblewood is not JK because he believes my claim.

So mafia can put their bets on Onegu cc'ing me. Or if he doesn't, wow there is noone else in the game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2017 05:50 GMT
#1608
On August 26 2017 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 13:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Read the thread since I got home from taking care of college stuff. HF and Rayn thinks Koshi is mafia. ruxxar did answer my question and Damdred's question indirectly. People thinking skynx is scum still. I wondering if I wrong on any of my townreads I had earlier.
@Oats You probably interpreting wrong about the last part of that 2nd post. It doesn't feel like he was calling him bad instead of scum to me at least.

No dude, Vivax is saying that ruxx has been intentionally saying shit, but what he has shown is more accidentally bad than intentionally shit.

Oats i want you to tell me which posts of Ruxxar are what you describe here.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2017 05:52 GMT
#1609
On August 28 2017 14:49 ruXxar wrote:
A parity cop is useless before day 3, so catching them early is what you want to do. There is absolutely zero reason for a parity cop to counterclaim, when Rayn can go "I wasn't really serious lul" and now mafia has exposed the strongest town role in the game.

It is good you can't even keep ypur story straight for a sentence.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2017 06:19 GMT
#1619
On August 28 2017 15:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 14:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 13:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Read the thread since I got home from taking care of college stuff. HF and Rayn thinks Koshi is mafia. ruxxar did answer my question and Damdred's question indirectly. People thinking skynx is scum still. I wondering if I wrong on any of my townreads I had earlier.
@Oats You probably interpreting wrong about the last part of that 2nd post. It doesn't feel like he was calling him bad instead of scum to me at least.

No dude, Vivax is saying that ruxx has been intentionally saying shit, but what he has shown is more accidentally bad than intentionally shit.

Oats i want you to tell me which posts of Ruxxar are what you describe here.


Go look in Vivax filter dude. Its the case that he posted.

No, i want you to quote those posts yourself so you can't say "that's not what i meant".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2017 06:25 GMT
#1620
On August 26 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +

Then i make a post on Artanis, Oats asks "who typed this". I tell him Artanis did. No follow up.

Then a scumread on Koshi. And a townread on HF (obviously since HF makes a post on Koshi).

100% unexplained scumread on Ruxxar. (probably because ruxxar wants to lynch koshi).

Im pretty sure the post I quoted on rux was pretty clear why I thought he was mafia.

Oh this is interesting, because i am pretty sure i accidently wrote "scumread" instead of "townread" and this is the post in question:
On August 26 2017 03:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think ruxx is town too.

So today i want to lynch
TW
LS
Vivax
Koshi

But please tell me where you did scumread Ruxxar for a post at that time?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2017 06:32 GMT
#1621
On August 28 2017 14:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 14:16 ruXxar wrote:
The fact that neither Rayn or HF got shot tonight confirms that there is guaranteed scum between them.

We 100% hit scum if we lynch into Rayn/HF.

Or Mafia went for a medic dodge shot most likely.

And you're calling my reasoning bullshit.
Again, why do i even join these games?

I wish i could even call these people mafia....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2017 06:36 GMT
#1622
On August 28 2017 15:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:

Then i make a post on Artanis, Oats asks "who typed this". I tell him Artanis did. No follow up.

Then a scumread on Koshi. And a townread on HF (obviously since HF makes a post on Koshi).

100% unexplained scumread on Ruxxar. (probably because ruxxar wants to lynch koshi).

Im pretty sure the post I quoted on rux was pretty clear why I thought he was mafia.

Oh this is interesting, because i am pretty sure i accidently wrote "scumread" instead of "townread" and this is the post in question:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 03:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think ruxx is town too.

So today i want to lynch
TW
LS
Vivax
Koshi

But please tell me where you did scumread Ruxxar for a post at that time?

On August 28 2017 15:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 15:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 28 2017 14:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 13:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Read the thread since I got home from taking care of college stuff. HF and Rayn thinks Koshi is mafia. ruxxar did answer my question and Damdred's question indirectly. People thinking skynx is scum still. I wondering if I wrong on any of my townreads I had earlier.
@Oats You probably interpreting wrong about the last part of that 2nd post. It doesn't feel like he was calling him bad instead of scum to me at least.

No dude, Vivax is saying that ruxx has been intentionally saying shit, but what he has shown is more accidentally bad than intentionally shit.

Oats i want you to tell me which posts of Ruxxar are what you describe here.


Go look in Vivax filter dude. Its the case that he posted.

No, i want you to quote those posts yourself so you can't say "that's not what i meant".

You know what's more funny in this Oats?
You now need to explai nwhy you thought ruxxar is town and mafia for the same posts.
Waiting for you to answer.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2017 06:50 GMT
#1623
Or you could always try claiming JK. You will probably have 2 townies on your side, just saying.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 28 2017 07:00 GMT
#1624
btw Koshi, you totally deserved to be lynched there despite having most likely the best reads in the game. Just saying.
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