[T] MS Paint-Off Mafia

On August 10 2017 05:10 Hopeless1der wrote:
/in if you reach the 4-man threshold
/replace if you don't

On August 14 2017 02:23 ruXxar wrote:


Sorry. Just realized that I have a lot of work next week and that sitting next to my coworkers drawing in ms paint isnt the best idea.

On August 14 2017 05:32 Damdred wrote:
Dirst town by default

On August 14 2017 05:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
the idea is the judges will nominate 2 ppl and the one they give the power so we have one dude noone is gonna vote. there is more to that but yeah, i need to sleep first.

On August 14 2017 05:55 geript wrote:

Rayn, do you agree with this plan?

On August 14 2017 05:59 geript wrote:
To be specific:
Judges nominate 3 people for a power-up. But instead of choosing 3 people they think are town, they choose only 2 people they think are town and 1 guy they think is scum. Then, they nominate the guy they think is scum for lynch with 2 other people they think are scum so we get an outside opinion on things. Even if they can't make an argument.

On August 14 2017 06:22 geript wrote:


Basically, Judges choose 2 different groups: a group of 3 one of which gets a power-up and a group of 3 one of which gets lynched. Town votes on both groups. The judges can include a person in both groups as a way of saying "I think this guy is scum." Plus, since they'll be less likely to give scum a powerup if they are only 'nominating' 2 people instead of 3. It's kinda mediocre on D1 since in hours 25-48 we vote for the powerup and don't get the lynch list until hour 49 (if i'm reading it correctly). But it should be pretty obvious that 2 guys are way townier than the third. Kinda like the old nomination game.

On August 14 2017 06:23 geript wrote:
NIA. Probably scum...

On August 14 2017 21:42 Holyflare wrote:
Now if I ever get vig you will die. There's nothing you can actually do to change my mind at this point. You've had more than adequate time to shape up and have done nothing.

On August 14 2017 21:49 Holyflare wrote:
Does this do anything to solve the game rayn? Why are you more concerned with Koshi giving us a mafia read (which is what them putting people up for lynch is???) than actually having a single read in the entire game?

Initially you said so we'd have one person to lynch. Which I think is stupid. Vote count analysis is the basic mafia game.

On August 14 2017 22:53 Holyflare wrote:
Ritoky not giving a shit does not make him town at all. THAT is a terrible read.

On August 14 2017 22:53 Conversion wrote:


do you mind me asking how you almost have a read on someone who only has two posts?

just curious

On August 14 2017 22:55 Holyflare wrote:
I also think your reads don't make any sense at all. You effectively say this is mafia tw but don't call him mafia.

You say you don't like his conclusion that it makes cake nothing but your read on cake is also NOTHING. You liked his questioning and read it and have no conclusion on her for it but then say it's bad that someone else doesn't have a conclusion on it. Then you think a baddy mafia ditches all his reads and calls everyone blindly town just after?

No.

It just doesn't add up rayn.

On August 15 2017 05:39 ritoky wrote:
my top 3 would have always had hopeless and geript.

On August 14 2017 23:00 Holyflare wrote:
Nobody else is here. I haven't twisted a single word you have said at all.

Why is Tumblewood's lack of conclusion on cake bad when you have no conclusion on cake yourself?

I mean it's hilarious to get annoyed at someone trying to play mafia and determine other people's alignments. Why bother playing if answering basic questions antagonises you this much?

On August 15 2017 00:19 Tumblewood wrote:

yo this reminds me that in rayn's last scum game he also typed /in, juat like he did this game. crazy coincidence

On August 15 2017 02:02 Holyflare wrote:
No I'm getting a read on tw. If he's mafia rayn is town.

On August 15 2017 02:57 Holyflare wrote:


Because tw is defending rayn and even digging to get meta to try and prove me wrong. If tw is mafia then this only comes from the perspective that he knows rayn is town and so theoretically it's simple to find games where he's done this before.

Coupled with the fact he's doing all of this but his actual read on rayn is "null" at best it's dodgy as fuck to be doing unless he has the standpoint of him being right and me wrong (yes, tmi).

Then you look at the actual quotes he linked me and they're trash and don't align with what he's saying at all but he thinks they do. It's like he briefly skimmed a game for the point to prove himself right (because of the tmi on rayn) and then posted them because it vaguely said what he was getting at.

Basically lynch all Tumblewoods.

Judges nominate who they think is mafia and we lynch them already.

On August 15 2017 18:37 Holyflare wrote:
I read his (Conversion) filter. Classic mafia filter. He tries to snipe little points that just seem extremely odd to snipe. I mean they're ok questions when you are hounding a person and want a follow up but these are all one off questions that lead nowhere, have no context and don't help him figure something out. Then he piggybacks off of fecal's hopeless posts to say absolutely nothing new. It's just an odd filter. Definitely should be lynch tomorrow.

My 3 would be onegu/conversion/tw since if those two display town rainbows we can always default to onegu. Maybe switch with rels so he has passion. Conversion is extremely likely mafia though.

On August 15 2017 00:02 Holyflare wrote:
Ritoky moves up for being a prophet and static tw just destroys instead of builds. Welcome to the three nominated townies ritoky.

On August 15 2017 18:31 Holyflare wrote:
But hf why is ritoky null?

Quite simple actually. I feel like he made a good point on Tumblewood but now that Tumblewood has displayed that point tenfold in the game ritoky doesn't burn with any passion to pursue it. He's meek. Then there's the copcake shenanigans with copcake forgetting her scum reads and ritoky receiving the brunt of it and it's all meh. He even made a post about the lack of passion which I find intriguing because a mafia ritoky is constantly paranoid with how he looks to other people and this strikes me as one of those times.

He also hasn't town read me. A failure that town ritoky should be ashamed of.

On August 14 2017 23:15 Holyflare wrote:
My read is that he's got a chip on his shoulder, he's not particularly contributing. But my read was before his read post which wasn't awful but still achieved nothing. He should really be a scummy null above rayn and damd.

On August 15 2017 21:34 Conversion wrote:


bc the only people who gave lists so far that I bothered paying attention to are you and hopeless

that's all

On August 15 2017 22:30 Holyflare wrote:


Fuck right off. Mafia. 100x over mafia. I've tried to talk to you about a million. Scratch that. A billion trillion times and have had no answer whatsoever.

On August 15 2017 22:32 Holyflare wrote:
Ritoky isn't town? I have never called him town once this game.

On August 15 2017 22:42 Conversion wrote:




hopeless caught my eye bc he was spamming the thread and I didn't like his posts

copcake's posts were irrelevant to me b/c I reserved the right to not make any judgment on you until you actually played the game

On August 15 2017 22:43 Holyflare wrote:
Now I know the actual setup then having everyone pick vests all the time is still the optimal setup.

On August 15 2017 22:49 Conversion wrote:


when in the fuck did I call you out?

I asked you for clarification, then asked the thread about your meta

??????????????????

bc the only people who gave lists so far that I bothered paying attention to are you and hopeless

On August 15 2017 23:01 Holyflare wrote:
Wait so now rayn scum reads my scum read but I'm mafia tooo? Wut.

Conversion i am curious; why did you decide to "call me out" for making a read based on only couple of posts, and not anyone else who have done the same thing?

bc the only people who gave lists so far that I bothered paying attention to are you and hopeless

On August 15 2017 23:06 Holyflare wrote:


Except you didn't say any shit about it until now and it's for inferior reasons about some shit list post statement thing?completely different tbh

On August 15 2017 23:14 Hopeless1der wrote:

How did rayn have a read on me from literally 1 post though.

On August 12 2015 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
here rsoultin:

On August 15 2017 23:30 Holyflare wrote:
You could have said "why does me reading copcake null have anything to do with Tumblewood?" or "the way he was discussing it looked like he should come to a conclusion but he didn't".

That's like 8 words to dispel everything and you instead spent about 1000 on a waste of time case on me, making yourself annoyed(?) with me and afking? Telling me I'm twisting words.

It was pretty simple and you dragged it down. Last game you quite easily answered questions like that. I remember actually you had the exact same argument with someone last game where we were both town and you made that simple statement.

On August 15 2017 23:34 Damdred wrote:
Honestly I know it's bad.

But if the lynch isn't something like onegu/rels/rayn I'll be a bit annoyed at the judges.

I think besides those three and hopeless (rekt) I have a pretty sturdy reason to read people town. Maybe tw has fallen do me though, probably, maybe.

On August 15 2017 23:37 Holyflare wrote:


Actually yes. Skynx made a case on you in generic 3 for these exact same reasons. He was town, you called him town even though you didn't agree with the logic. I agreed with skynx in that game too and you just shrugged it off. Completely out of character with your behaviour here.

On August 15 2017 23:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I don't understand this, can you go more into detail?

On August 15 2017 23:45 CopCake wrote:
Like if I was scum I would have tried to get him lynched and be like "lol mistake he was inactive that is not town rayn"

On August 15 2017 23:49 Hopeless1der wrote:
Rayn if you dont start playing like you, I'm going to shoot you. Note that the most recent time I announce my target is the one that I will follow through with when I get my gun.

On August 15 2017 23:53 Holyflare wrote:


That's about 0% true. He called me mafia and pushed me as mafia in his last mafia game.

On August 16 2017 00:00 Hopeless1der wrote:


You phrased it in such a way that we were supposed to KNOW he was afk. How the everloving fuck could we have known that? I dont know rayn IRL. I wish I did, I'm sure hes a cool guy, but I dont...so when he isnt in thread and I expect that from him, its going to affect my read.

On August 16 2017 00:01 Holyflare wrote:


You made a post where you scum read/bad read X (tw in this game) because he thought Y after a push. You also thought Y or something. Skynx cased you and you just said the same spiel about it's the thought process and explained it away. Then you said skynx is town for that case even if you didn't believe it. I don't remember the details so much and maybe it's different a bit but this looks exactly the same and your reaction to me is totally different.

You also know I exaggerate scum reads early in the game to get people to talk. Ritoky being a weak one to push for discussion. So why flip out about it? It doesn't make any sense to me when you can simply explain something away. I asked you a simple question about a read and you ignored me and then when I tried to get more information from you over an inconsistency it's twisting yoir words fuck you bye.

I just want to play mafia. You don't need to be a bitch because you don't like to play mafia. I don't think you're whiney so I think you're mafia.

You're more reasonable now and it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense because you're more reasonable to me after casing me as mafia?????

On August 16 2017 00:04 Holyflare wrote:
I was a strong town read. I got shot n1. Rayn pushed me. Your meta is flawed.

On August 16 2017 00:24 Holyflare wrote:


I asked. You said nothing.

You then were stubborn for 24 hours and then your post came insulting me.

I compared it to games you didn't have time in. Like the one where I was mafia. It's in my filter and in this thread. I looked back and it's wildly different. Hence my continued push.

On August 16 2017 00:31 Holyflare wrote:


Above is post 1 of many from the game you were mafia.



Let's compare to a portion of your post this game above.



IT'S ALMOST IDENTICAL.

On May 11 2017 18:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't wanna talk to you at all because every single thing i say you paint as "misrepresenting the argument". The only thing you do is throw jabs at me regardless of what i do. I've explained myself why i think there is nothing scummy in what Grackaroni has said and why darthfoley's "case" is shit as fuck. I can keep telling the same thing over and over again and you will end up doing the same thing you have done over and over again. So i'd rather just not care. You're not looking motivation behind posts and i think it makes you mafia. You're not actually interested in figuring out shit rather than just making blantant accusations that "look good" on things that aren't actually scummy, and i think it makes you mafia. Tumblewood kinda figured that out but unfortunately he dug only half-way through that. Oh and btw rn you're calling two townies mafia and those are your only mafia reads so if you're somehow town in this game good fucking job....

The thing is though that Grackaroni, Tumblewood, fuba, LightningStrike, Skynx and also probs Prison Break are town.
sicklucker is in sicklucker land so he is probably town too.
I am not sure about Damdred anymore but there is nothing i can really pinpoint to except for what i feel is apathy. But right now i am okay with where he is headed. So idk, he is still leaning town.

Maybe Palmar could be mafia, idk? I am not familiar with this kind of Palmar play so i really don't know, usually as scum he just fucks up really hard and i can't tell what this play from him is.

So i am left with:

Vivax - who feels uninterested and just "hey let's all be friends" instead of trying to find mafia
darthfoley - who made a super terrible read based on a thing that is not scummy at all and painted it scummy "because meta"
Holyflare - who i talked about already, you should know a lot of things you have said this game to not be true the slightest, basically you should know better that the things you call scummy are not scummy at all. I could probably even let that slide if it was only towards me since you -- like me -- tend to think certain people, if they call you mafia, are mafia. But it's not only towards me, you did the same thing regarding Grackaroni and Tumblewood, and that's basically all you have really talked about this game, so 3/3.

So yeah, i am not sure if i can be around before work any longer and i will have about 20-30mins after work before the deadline so that's my 2c for D1.

On August 16 2017 00:39 Holyflare wrote:

What does that make you?

On August 16 2017 00:43 CopCake wrote:
Also kill damdred, he is another woman kicking kittens and dissapeared.

He asked me for my read of rayn and in the chaos stopped to post. Last game he said I was super good player and here he didnt have the guts to deffend the "good player"

On August 16 2017 00:46 Hopeless1der wrote:

surprise?

On August 16 2017 00:49 Hopeless1der wrote:

So what, you thought his meta defense of you was anything worthwhile? I certainly did not. He cherrypicked the fuck out of some filters.

On August 16 2017 00:50 Hopeless1der wrote:

I am waiting for you break the game by either killing mechanics or forcing people to do what you want by incessantly poking them.

On August 16 2017 00:51 Hopeless1der wrote:

He's literally posted lists of his reads/reasons in paint format. If you are actually that high strung to refuse to read his posts because they're images then you can go right to hell rayn.

On August 16 2017 00:58 Holyflare wrote:
Are we assuming rayn didn't read the thread?

He's missed: jealous read posts
Reasons why tw is scum
All of my scum reads and monologues trying to solve the game
Everything???

On August 16 2017 01:01 Holyflare wrote:



This is literally in your case calling me mafia rayn. Now you're confused?

On August 16 2017 01:02 Holyflare wrote:
No they aren't crap. He has a legend explaining colours and boxes and has conclusions at the end. He also just made a summary of what happened while he was asleep and got a conclusion from it?

On August 16 2017 00:52 Holyflare wrote:


Can you explain why you didn't mention jealous' read posts before you called him mafia?

On August 16 2017 02:06 Hopeless1der wrote:

you're going to give your scumread blue-powers to stick it to the town?

On August 16 2017 02:11 Hopeless1der wrote:
that angry rayn can suck a bag of dicks and die in a fire

On August 16 2017 02:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am also trying really hard to find that "wall post of reads" from him, if you could point me out to that it would be nice.

On August 16 2017 02:13 Hopeless1der wrote:

win the game shortly following you flipping scum.

On August 16 2017 04:41 ritoky wrote:
copcake are you town? can you tell me who else is town?

On August 16 2017 04:43 Conversion wrote:


holy shit you have a 3 page filter and I remember like none of it LOL

On August 16 2017 04:48 Fecalfeast wrote:
How come 1derboy left after nobody liked his dumb argument with me?

Put him in the lynch list please judges

On August 16 2017 04:49 Conversion wrote:


why are you even talking to me? just go ragequit or whatever you're doing tbh

and when did I ever townread HF?

On August 16 2017 04:51 Conversion wrote:
@rayn if you want to actually play the game instead of calling everyone else shit outside of 2 players, please do. I've been lurking around TL mafia and you are one of the more memorable names, so it means I respect your play

if you're going to just fling shit at a wall and try to assume I'm making reads I'm not, you can go choke on a bag of dicks and fuck off

On August 16 2017 05:29 Jealous wrote:
I think both HF and CopCake can be either or; HF for being either tryhard scum trying to eliminate rayn, or tryhard town trying to eliminate rayn. At least HF does things, posts reads, and interacts with people. CopCake is getting a power-up for doing practically nothing but defend rayn and cry. It's like rolling dice.

On August 16 2017 05:32 Jealous wrote:

If you bothered to read my responses to your qualms and cool off for a change, you'd see my explanation that it wasn't about who I am most certain is town.

On August 16 2017 05:37 Holyflare wrote:
I've received 1 vig bullet and I've already used it on rayn so please vote between FF and hopeless.

On August 17 2017 21:25 Holyflare wrote:


I mean that's not what happened at all. Below is what happened.

in my head, the best possible action as town isn't to just say "lynch afkers," it's to find who the scummiest is on your list and pressure them to slip or keep posting until they look scummy

On August 16 2017 20:48 Conversion wrote:
also I really don't like that a train formed on rayn with barely any discussion

I'm taking my vote on him

On August 17 2017 04:04 Rels wrote:
lol I didn't think anything about any of FF posts. Then I read this very last one in his filter. It's pretty townie. Especially given than from my experience FF is a no-risk scum player => so if HF is town I dunno why he would risk making him mad with that post.

On August 17 2017 04:08 Rels wrote:

lul maybe TMI on HF being town

On August 17 2017 04:18 Rels wrote:
##Vote Hopeless1der
Dont really think he's scum, but more than rayn and FF for sure.

On August 15 2017 22:09 Conversion wrote:
my read on rayn is null b/c cop said give him some time

in a few hours during my lunch break he does not contribute anything I will push to lynch him b/c a player of his caliber should be able to do SOMETHING in a small amount of time he has

basically play better than me at the very least, which I can't say confidently he is doing

On August 17 2017 22:28 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think conversion's stance towards you is really thst scummy. You were confirmed town and everyone jumped on you for a reason that I'm still not sure about? They didn't even discuss about hopeless or ff, just voted you and afkd.

On August 16 2017 03:19 Conversion wrote:


Okay. since there are no modkills in this game, how do you propose we deal with someone like Rels? since he might be more town than not, should we just ignore him?

On August 17 2017 22:35 Holyflare wrote:


You just linked a post where he called you null? Does he say you're mafia?

in a few hours during my lunch break he does not contribute anything I will push to lynch him b/c a player of his caliber should be able to do SOMETHING in a small amount of time he has

On August 17 2017 22:51 Conversion wrote:
@Jealous



why did you end up never doing anything you mentioned and left your vote parked on rayn?

On August 17 2017 22:56 Hopeless1der wrote:

I kinda want timestamps on this. HF has been on a "rayn is confirmed town for cheating" kick for some time now.

On August 16 2017 05:39 Jealous wrote:

Uhhh

On August 16 2017 05:39 Jealous wrote:

y u do dis

On August 16 2017 05:46 Jealous wrote:

As much as I don't like how rayn has been playing, I have to agree with this post's sentiment. HF can you explain your thought process in shooting so early from the lynchpool and posting about it as well?

On August 17 2017 23:07 Holyflare wrote:


Actually that's a lie.

You were jealous' town lean :D :D :D

On August 17 2017 23:15 Holyflare wrote:
But it's like so blatantly scummy that I hesitate. And he also did the super anti mafia move of giving me vest.

On August 17 2017 23:18 Holyflare wrote:


Yes because you know that panders to my pocketed ego like crazy. Never played with jealous.

On August 17 2017 23:19 Holyflare wrote:


It seemed very natural that copcake was about to win and he wasn't sure about her and thought she looked scummy and then him giving me the vest.

On August 18 2017 00:23 Hopeless1der wrote:

AND YOU THOUGHT THAT ARGUMENT HAD ANY MERIT?!

On August 18 2017 00:42 Hopeless1der wrote:



This exchange:






i.e.

BEFORE the judges even picked

On August 18 2017 00:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
I wonder how copcake calls me a kind soul, or whatever she said.

On August 18 2017 00:42 Hopeless1der wrote:



This exchange:






i.e.

BEFORE the judges even picked

On August 18 2017 00:17 Hopeless1der wrote:
Copcake and you are taking me semi-serious about "TW (as scum) has access to the judges QT"/

On August 18 2017 01:12 CopCake wrote:


I wasnt being a dick, I was seriously curious to see where he got that idea.

On August 18 2017 01:16 CopCake wrote:


Tbf that was too dumb to me mafia and sounded paranoid unless he wanted to dirty me idk.

On August 18 2017 01:17 Hopeless1der wrote:


You claim that you believed:



"Hopeless1der thinks that Tumblewood has access to the judge QT"


This is your argument rayn. Read it. If not for the fact that this is dumber than a bag of rocks I'd wonder if you died and a reanimiated corpse is playing for you.

On August 18 2017 01:18 Jealous wrote:
What a shit show. I expected more from you H1. Rayn, not so much, but still.

On August 18 2017 01:20 Hopeless1der wrote:






What the hell is all this rayn?

You're "Rayn's what" is being depleted.

On August 18 2017 01:27 Hopeless1der wrote:


IN WHAT UNIVERSE DOES ARTANIS LET HIS GAME BE BROKEN LIKE THAT!?

On August 18 2017 01:30 Tumblewood wrote:
whatever you and rayn are doing right now is the stupidest argument i have seen in a long long time. and i know "you can't just call it tvt for being an argument" but this is such a potent combination of inanity and hostility that yes i am calling it 100% tvt

On August 18 2017 01:38 Tumblewood wrote:

i voted him because my other options were rayn and ff, who i thought were both highly likely town. he was in the bottom category of the list post, but i didn't have any strong scumreads, so i lowered the bar for my scum pool to include people who i thought could be town but were kinda "ehhhhhh"

On August 18 2017 01:40 Jealous wrote:
To answer people's concerns about me being 50/50 in my posts, the reason why I do this is because I believe that committing to a read and then looking at all consequent posts through that filter makes for biased play. Especially in the first few days, I'd rather discuss what happened objectively and use that to shape my opinion, not make an opinion and then discuss based on that. I hate it when people put out one liner reads early in the game en masse like Damdred did. I also can't partake in any of the meta because in the long and illustrious history of players like rayn and HF, I am sure they can dig up whatever they want to prove/disprove anything they claim about the other, and also because I have no point of reference in that regard. So, that being said, I don't see how it's unexpected that a player who is unfamiliar with the rest of the population, has 0 meta, and is a relative scrub is making long posts that are trying to explain their thinking process. I'm trying to get better at this as I'm doing it, so I explain my rationale from start to finish. Then I get scumread for it? Whatever.

I appreciate people like geript explaining things clearly and also answering my posts, even if they don't make sense because of meta or because I didn't think things through in a civil manner. But apparently what flies here is 1. shit up the thread 2. make one line read posts like "xx is scum," or "give me a gun," etc. 3. use meta like it's the gold standard. 4. make unsubstantiated lists. The newbie mafia game(s?) I played were much more civil, interesting, and entertaining than this. So without further ado:

geript
HF, fuck it, I'll put my faith in my gut since apparently him lying habitually is NAI
I understand Ever's position, having to catch up with the thread, and their posts so far have made sense to me so townlean.
H1 going to carry over some of the towniness from earlier in the game but he hasn't do anything to impress me recently and this recent shit rubs me the wrong way

CopCake is still a mystery

Rayn has been playing in a way that I can't disenfranchise my feelings from my reads and he shitposts too much, so I'd be fine with him just not being here anymore. Unfortunately that doesn't make me scumread him because he still has made some decent posts and ultimately this post in his spat with H1:



I would probably think the same thing.

Rels I have no clue because I have no meta and he hasn't posted, so natural scumlean

Conversion - I didn't like his posts earlier in the game, then he kinda started posting better, then he apparently started willfully not reading filters in their entirety as soon as he found something to latch onto and publish to the thread so I'll give him a scumlean on that

Damdred
ritoky
TW


Fuck it. See y'all tonight.

On August 18 2017 01:46 Tumblewood wrote:

by inanity i mean the point you are arguing over is ridiculous (about a facet of the setup that is obviously not true), and by hostility i mean both of you are far more passionate than a point this ridiculous warrants. i've only skimmed your side of the argument so far (still catching up); your side doesn't seem stupid so far, but it is still vehement and over a ridiculous detail, and i think that is more than covered by the fact that you were already likely town.

On August 18 2017 01:49 Holyflare wrote:


I mean I try and make constructive posts at least.

Also in this hopeless/rayn argument I totally believed hopeless thought that someone like cake made an argument about tw seeing the judge qt.

I was all ready trying to quote him and tell him he misread her post but then the thread went full on shit fest.

Bad joke if it was one.

On August 18 2017 02:01 Eversince wrote:
Rayn: I liked Rayn catching up but this second fight about nothing makes me super nervous. #2 bout that I personally think is an entirely pointless agrument to be dragging out. but it being night I'm wait until tomorrow and see how he handles his reads then. Can stay at null for right now.

On August 18 2017 02:10 Conversion wrote:


uh.. do I really need to timestamp you? You parked your vote on rayn, and said you're going to look into Hopeless' filter twice.

don't scumlean me for "apparently started willfully not reading filters in their entirety as soon as he found something to latch onto and publish to the thread so I'll give him a scumlean on that"

when you're posting lists without reading the full length of my filter. that's even less effort on your part.

now show me exactly where this "latch on" behavior happens and your argument will make sense. I post my thoughts in the thread to be transparent, and you take that as an attack on your play and use words that sound like I did far more than just ask you a simple question

On August 18 2017 02:21 Eversince wrote:


I know you have a 'explosive' personality. Which when you get fired up I see as questionable. Like my previous post, why did what should of been a pretty clear cut and dry argument drug out for pages??? Short answer is there isn't. Long answer is I know enough about you to know that your like that to an extent regardless of alignment which means are you just pissed? Are you driving for some piece of information or motivation? Is there a point to what your doing that I just don't understand?

And taking so much time to do so bothers me a lot because this case: I think Hope re instigated that exchange and I think that makes him worse for it because you've already been blown up this game. And what's this accomplishing at night other than coming up with the possibility to I don't even know? Shoot you? Prevoke enough of a reaction to get enough suspicion back onto you to push for lynch tomorrow? Like he implied he didn't think you were mafia before going into that.

So mainly, you're just hard to read. And I'm a slow reader, slower typer, and prone to skip certain things which would leave me giving you free passes when I should see underlying motivation of what you're trying to do. (Re my last game with you that I had you as town entire game and you were mafia.)

On August 18 2017 02:28 Tumblewood wrote:
it would make sense that he could be the mafia i'm missing.

On August 18 2017 02:36 sicklucker wrote:
paint me a picture

On August 18 2017 02:48 Hopeless1der wrote:

oh is that a thing?

I realize mods arent supposed to answer this stuff but

sicklucker isnt in the game, what gives?

On August 18 2017 02:56 CopCake wrote:


Because Damdred is more dangerous.

You weren't my top mafia read but now you are for lying.

I said Damred was the mafia more likely.

On August 18 2017 03:08 CopCake wrote:


Ok this is the timeline

- Cakes believes Ritoki is mafia for his overeacting of clock-
- Cakes wants to lynch Ritoki -
- Cakes finds later Damdred is more mafia -
- Ritoki questions Cake why he wants to lynch him -
- Cake then says he found Damdred more scummy but now wants to lynch Ritoki -

The lying is that I forgot I posted I want to lynch Ritoki, I calmed down on him because MAYBE I was overeacting fornthe clock thing but even if I forgot I posted that doesnt mean I had quit To think that Ritoki is mafia.

On August 18 2017 03:13 CopCake wrote:


The second step of my post says I want to lynch Ritoki, is before i said Damdred is more mafia.