EPTOn August 18 2017 04:34 Tumblewood wrote:
because i am caught-up enough to eliminate my townreads from the lynch pool, and i don't have to be caught up to say "i do not at this time have a strong reason to townread this person."
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On August 18 2017 04:31 geript wrote:
First, when I do a PoE and separate the groups into "town" and "contains the whole scum team," by definition you are calling the people in the second group scum. Sure there's probably 1-2 townies in that group, but again you're saying those people are likely scum.
Here's the important question: If you're town and haven't even caught up yet STILL, why are you even doing PoE reads or giving "updated reads" to begin with?
On August 18 2017 04:25 Tumblewood wrote:
have you ever heard of process of elimination? it seems you have not, so let me break it down for you:
step 1: read the game thread and, when i feel like it, people's filters. post also.
step 2: when someone looks very townie, especially if they have looked that way for an extended period of time, eliminate them from the lynch pool.
step 3: as the game goes on, you may spot more very townie players, and eventually you will have a lynch pool where you can be reasonably confident in the success of a lynch from it, despite not having reasons that those players are mafia.
On August 18 2017 04:16 geript wrote:
TW: "Here's my updated reads"
Also TW: "I haven't finished catching up"
TW: "Puts X person in a list that contains all scum"
Also TW: "X person is not scummy"
The yo-yo is real
On August 18 2017 04:07 Tumblewood wrote:
so basically you have misrepresented me in every single thing you said. congrats.
On August 18 2017 03:53 geript wrote:
No. That's bullshit. Look at this:
Clearly he's "caught up." Yet he flat out ignores a huge ass case on him? He flat out tries to say I'm scummy yet has nothing to call me scum for? His townreads are shit.
Of course it's important to bring back up because I'm not going to let him slide a rock solid case under the rug.
On August 18 2017 03:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Noone cares about Tumblewood at the time. He has been asked to clear the shit on him and it's up to him so no need to talk about him.
On August 18 2017 03:41 geript wrote:
Quoting this because it shouldn't be forgotten. HF's last post is important too. But this is big.
On August 17 2017 11:00 geript wrote:
I don't care about the power vote thing because I'm probably dead. Sure, Ever can be replaced in that pool. But I'd be replacing Ever with Cop or you, but overall we have the least to work with between Rels/Ever and I want to be able to lynch into them and I want to keep pressure on them to play. I don't think the value of having you up for lynch right now is there. I don't think Cop will magically or mystically get better/make sense/be towny by being up for lynch. It's super egregious that she was even in the top 3 on D1.
What I care about is this:
How in the fuck does TW go from, "Oh man, I think I remember FF was town but idk why so I'll vote for Hopeless" to "Man FF's posts are good and there's only this one Hopeless post I like" in the course of 3 fucking minutes. How on earth does a Town!TW read and analyze FF's admittedly shorter filter in 3 minutes while also reading Hopeless not at all short filter? It's literally the picture of not caring about who to lynch between Hopeless and FF. It's literally picking up one little thing as an excuse. Afterwards you get this:
So clearly, he has some reason for why he dislikes Hopeless' posts. A reason which I will remind you that he did not have previously in his posting. It's not like there aren't reasons he can find to have both Hopeless and FF be town and paranoia lynch Rayn. It's not like he stands up to HF making the lynch between Hopeless and FF or goes super tin foil theory. It's not like he makes a (imo reasonable argument) to ignore OGI and just lynch Rayn because he's the scummiest for what he's done.
I just want the judges to actually fucking read what I post and listen to me.
On August 17 2017 10:39 Damdred wrote:
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Well first to the vote Thing.
Like if all three are town the switches do not make a real difference, maybe some of the awkward votes (tumble, rels etc.).
If hopeless is scum I think they got pretty lucky dodging his lynch but the save of tw of him would be equally juicy. Like if this is the case it is a lot more interesting with how the vote swing really the last minute. But if hopeless is sick I think it becomes less likely that read is scum just because of him helping out hopeless near the top and fivi ng him the chance of being lynched.
If Ryan is sick I think the game is stupid and things are worse than I thought. (Unlikely)
Ritoky not voting is interesting, but I don't thinknthatbis alignment indicative atm.
As for your pool I don't think ever should be in quite yet. But maybe soon depending on what she does.
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Well first to the vote Thing.
Like if all three are town the switches do not make a real difference, maybe some of the awkward votes (tumble, rels etc.).
If hopeless is scum I think they got pretty lucky dodging his lynch but the save of tw of him would be equally juicy. Like if this is the case it is a lot more interesting with how the vote swing really the last minute. But if hopeless is sick I think it becomes less likely that read is scum just because of him helping out hopeless near the top and fivi ng him the chance of being lynched.
If Ryan is sick I think the game is stupid and things are worse than I thought. (Unlikely)
Ritoky not voting is interesting, but I don't thinknthatbis alignment indicative atm.
As for your pool I don't think ever should be in quite yet. But maybe soon depending on what she does.
I don't care about the power vote thing because I'm probably dead. Sure, Ever can be replaced in that pool. But I'd be replacing Ever with Cop or you, but overall we have the least to work with between Rels/Ever and I want to be able to lynch into them and I want to keep pressure on them to play. I don't think the value of having you up for lynch right now is there. I don't think Cop will magically or mystically get better/make sense/be towny by being up for lynch. It's super egregious that she was even in the top 3 on D1.
What I care about is this:
On August 17 2017 05:05 Tumblewood wrote:
i don't remember why i thought ff was town. but i think he is. so i'm gonna put my vote on 1der for now and speed read both their filters
i don't remember why i thought ff was town. but i think he is. so i'm gonna put my vote on 1der for now and speed read both their filters
On August 17 2017 05:08 Tumblewood wrote:
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i like this post. i like ff's posts more but i like this post. there is probably not a right answer here
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i like this post. i like ff's posts more but i like this post. there is probably not a right answer here
How in the fuck does TW go from, "Oh man, I think I remember FF was town but idk why so I'll vote for Hopeless" to "Man FF's posts are good and there's only this one Hopeless post I like" in the course of 3 fucking minutes. How on earth does a Town!TW read and analyze FF's admittedly shorter filter in 3 minutes while also reading Hopeless not at all short filter? It's literally the picture of not caring about who to lynch between Hopeless and FF. It's literally picking up one little thing as an excuse. Afterwards you get this:
On August 17 2017 05:16 Tumblewood wrote:
town
cake
rit
ff
sorta town
rayn
conv
geript
jealous
at least 2/3 mafia are in here
1der
damdred
hf
es
rels
town
cake
rit
ff
sorta town
rayn
conv
geript
jealous
at least 2/3 mafia are in here
1der
damdred
hf
es
rels
So clearly, he has some reason for why he dislikes Hopeless' posts. A reason which I will remind you that he did not have previously in his posting. It's not like there aren't reasons he can find to have both Hopeless and FF be town and paranoia lynch Rayn. It's not like he stands up to HF making the lynch between Hopeless and FF or goes super tin foil theory. It's not like he makes a (imo reasonable argument) to ignore OGI and just lynch Rayn because he's the scummiest for what he's done.
I just want the judges to actually fucking read what I post and listen to me.
Quoting this because it shouldn't be forgotten. HF's last post is important too. But this is big.
Noone cares about Tumblewood at the time. He has been asked to clear the shit on him and it's up to him so no need to talk about him.
No. That's bullshit. Look at this:
On August 18 2017 02:18 Tumblewood wrote:
updated list
town
1der
cake
rit
rayn
conv
don't think he's mafia but u can never be sure
hf
the mafia should all be in here
jealous
geript
es
damdred
rels
updated list
town
1der
cake
rit
rayn
conv
don't think he's mafia but u can never be sure
hf
the mafia should all be in here
jealous
geript
es
damdred
rels
On August 18 2017 02:46 Tumblewood wrote:
i didn't say i had a good read on you. but if you don't establish yourself as very likely town you go to the PoE pool. that's pretty much how it works.
On August 18 2017 02:42 geript wrote:
Lol. Clearly I am completely unnoticable
On August 18 2017 02:28 Tumblewood wrote:
i think i already explained my cake read, but the short version is some of her reads are so illogical and her reactions to attacks are so righteous that i don't think she could fake it as mafia.
i previously thought geript was kinda town for the angle shooting thing ritoky pointed out, but i haven't noticed geript at all since, so it would make sense that he could be the mafia i'm missing. i definitely need to read his filter again though, i haven't read it in quite a while.
On August 18 2017 02:24 Conversion wrote:
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can you explain your cake and geript read? I'm curious.
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can you explain your cake and geript read? I'm curious.
i think i already explained my cake read, but the short version is some of her reads are so illogical and her reactions to attacks are so righteous that i don't think she could fake it as mafia.
i previously thought geript was kinda town for the angle shooting thing ritoky pointed out, but i haven't noticed geript at all since, so it would make sense that he could be the mafia i'm missing. i definitely need to read his filter again though, i haven't read it in quite a while.
Lol. Clearly I am completely unnoticable
i didn't say i had a good read on you. but if you don't establish yourself as very likely town you go to the PoE pool. that's pretty much how it works.
Clearly he's "caught up." Yet he flat out ignores a huge ass case on him? He flat out tries to say I'm scummy yet has nothing to call me scum for? His townreads are shit.
Of course it's important to bring back up because I'm not going to let him slide a rock solid case under the rug.
- i explicitly said i was still catching up (and i still haven't gotten to the middle pages between where i left off and page 80)
- i did not say you are scummy. i said you are PoE, not that you are scummy. you will remain PoE until i read your filter, which i will do when i am at home at my pc. also i don't know what huge case you are referring to. (and my top townreads are strong. i reserve the right to shove it in your face postgame if i am right on all of those.)
so basically you have misrepresented me in every single thing you said. congrats.
TW: "Here's my updated reads"
Also TW: "I haven't finished catching up"
TW: "Puts X person in a list that contains all scum"
Also TW: "X person is not scummy"
The yo-yo is real
have you ever heard of process of elimination? it seems you have not, so let me break it down for you:
step 1: read the game thread and, when i feel like it, people's filters. post also.
step 2: when someone looks very townie, especially if they have looked that way for an extended period of time, eliminate them from the lynch pool.
step 3: as the game goes on, you may spot more very townie players, and eventually you will have a lynch pool where you can be reasonably confident in the success of a lynch from it, despite not having reasons that those players are mafia.
First, when I do a PoE and separate the groups into "town" and "contains the whole scum team," by definition you are calling the people in the second group scum. Sure there's probably 1-2 townies in that group, but again you're saying those people are likely scum.
Here's the important question: If you're town and haven't even caught up yet STILL, why are you even doing PoE reads or giving "updated reads" to begin with?
because i am caught-up enough to eliminate my townreads from the lynch pool, and i don't have to be caught up to say "i do not at this time have a strong reason to townread this person."
My case on TW is HERE
TW's return to the thread is HERE
It is a minimum of 14 pages of things that happened that TW is saying is totally irrelevant to reads. Who the fuck does that as town?
