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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2017 22:03 GMT
#2953
On August 21 2017 06:51 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2017 06:45 ritoky wrote:
no the judges got paranoid cuz HF was wrong in his case and probably got viewed as pocketing me; and decided to put none of the confirmed town in the top for ???? reason. like regardless of hf's alignment i am either green checked or spewed so i should be in top and i went through the reasons why jealous can't be with hf so if they are worried about that he should be in top.....

dunno, they haven't made tons of sense to me w/ their decisions all game.


Ritoki I am going to put you a scenario.

1.- One player afk, you know him for years and you haven't seen him that much. You lynch your ask friend.

Is that town or mafia.


that's NAI, he's afk so it's not a bad lynch regardless of the flip
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2017 22:13 GMT
#2956
jealous is town, cuz hf is town, and jealous gave up the chance at himself getting a PR day 1 to ensure that HF and not cop got it. mafia doesn't do this. the rest of his filter pretty irrelevant now that hf is 98% town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2017 22:17 GMT
#2958
the vote was 4-4-4 jealous, hf, cop; with only an afk 1gu not voting. jealous unvoted himself and voted hf to ensure hf got the power.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2017 22:23 GMT
#2961
the vote is 4-4-4 tied, and with 2 minutes left before it is decided he unvotes himself and votes hf (who is now presumably town because mafia holding their shot doesn't make tons of sense) to prevent shenanigans from giving the power to any1 else.

a mafia jealous has the option to make the exact same play but give the PR to copcake instead of HF or try and push a little harder to get it himself. instead he gives it to HF which makes no sense for him as mafia imo unless he is with HF. HF green checking me in the pool yesterday instead of Jealous means they can't be partners, plus HF is basically town now....add it all together and you get jealous is pretty much town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 20 2017 22:33 GMT
#2965
On August 21 2017 07:27 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2017 06:44 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2017 06:43 Conversion wrote:
I don't wanna vote geript or cop

also why is Jealous just dropping votes without even a one liner


Explain


I don't like you because you make cases without thinking about the bigger picture (Like you call me and Jealous mafia, but in what world am I ever going to be mafia with him. seriously)

I don't like geript. I don't like his recent posts

I'm not actually reading too much into anything though, and I don't think I should win today. I just don't like either of you


so who would be your lynch pool today, and maybe 1 sentence (or more if you want) on why for each?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 02:42 GMT
#2987
Copcake, I am just going to try to be honest with you here and I mean 0 offense by this. It is simply my impression of you this game.

I think people react negatively towards you because you are disproportionately hostile toward any1 who comes remotely close to insulting you or disagreeing with you. Many players are also having trouble following your train of thought, which happens some people's rationale is more difficult to understand than others, but when they ask for clarity or further questions they are often met with yelling or a repetition of the same answer. This can result in people arriving at the point of "well I don't want to interact with that because getting yelled at for asking a question is not the kind of thing I play mafia for and want in my life."

I know I am a little shit at times too, as are most here, who call others dumb when we are frustrated or insult people cuz we are having a shitty day; so sometimes you just have to take on people's anger and try and convert it in some way into constructive discourse. But this has turned out way too white knighty and I am disgusted with myself.

An example of what I am talking about is you discussing HF with me:

I say HF is like 98% cleared as town, because he is the only player who was capable of being a medic or vest and there was no NK along with some other stuff.

You respond with "no HF is not clear he could very well be mafia, last game he made #huge_plays so he can be mafia."

I respond with, okay I can understand the paranoia but if HF is mafia what reason would he have to not submit KP? Even the math on him vigi shooting + kp tonight doesn't immediately result in a win for mafia, so why?

To which you say "because HF is capable of making #huge_plays".

And as you see we have reached an impasse. Because I am going to keep asking how and why a competent mafia player would elect to forego KP when it nets no tangible positive that I can see, and you're going to keep responding with "last game #huge_plays" and baseline paranoia. And so now I can't really discuss HF with you anymore because in my mind it will not go anywhere productive.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 02:47 GMT
#2988
Conv, I never got that lynch pool list from you.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 02:48 GMT
#2989
On August 21 2017 09:51 Tumblewood wrote:
i am fine with either choice besides geript. conv and copcake are both highly town.
the (non) NK could go either way. it makes hf townier, but mafia does not lose that much from holding a shot. LYLO becomes MYLO. maybe 80% mafia -> 60% mafia.


What makes conv highly likely town? Copcake too if you're feeling generous.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 17:26 GMT
#3086
hm i was looking at the wrong vote....my jealous read is a lot weaker now. sad days.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 17:36 GMT
#3087
oh god i still have to vote for this reward....
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 17:36 GMT
#3088
hf why you voting conv? to protest?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 17:57 GMT
#3101
pretty cool eclipse. we had about 90-92% visibility here in seattle.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 18:06 GMT
#3105
On August 21 2017 12:09 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2017 11:47 ritoky wrote:
Conv, I never got that lynch pool list from you.


oh right

probably hopeless/tw and one of rayn vs geript

hopeless has like deteriorated in his play. I'm about to sleep so I'm not filter diving, but I can't really remember anything good from him aside from exclaiming that TW needs to die for like 2 days now and giving lists and fading into obscurity

TW because he does these like weak question pushes and doesn't really get anywhere. he's really into giving lists (I don't like lists maybe? who knows). also whenever I thought he was mafia he ended up being town, and now he's like trying extra hard so that's giving me bad feelz (probably not a v. good read)

I feel like I'm missing something between rayn or geript, so this is all feels between them as my last lynch candidate

I don't like Jealous, but I'm leaving him out of my lynch pool b/c of what you or geript stated (voting for HF doesn't make sense if he is scum)


what makes you think the 1gu/ever/disf slot is town?

also can i just note how annoying it is to have to click 3 filter (1 of them is basically empty i know) to try and get a read on 1 slot.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 18:34 GMT
#3112
you're in the mafia pool because of a lot of PoE and 1 real reason for me.

PoE is that HF is town, I think the NKs highly suggest that rayn and geript are unlikely mafia because they just don't suit them. The judges seem to be married to their copcake is town read and I have inclinations that she is town so she is out. My jealous read is kinda shittier now that I realize I was looking at the wrong vote in terms of #s.....so he has fallen considering he has gone peripheral again just like he did when every1 TR him before, but idk if I am ready to lynch him quite yet.

So we're already down to you/hopeless/tw/disf by PoE...

the legitimate thing that has made me wary of you from your filter was your d1 and a little beyond interactions with jealous and the way you embraced the dunce thing felt like buddying/pocketing in a not "hey we're both town" kinda way. that's why i said earlier you guys can't be together.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 18:52 GMT
#3134
what exactly does hf dying accomplish? i go from confirmed to confirmed, hf flips town which is already basically true, we lose massive activity, and we gain??????????? peace of mind?????????
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 19:12 GMT
#3162
it is really simple. either you think hf is town and got shot since he is the only eligible player to not die from a shot or you think mafia held their shot. the onus is on you to explain to me why the hell mafia holds a shot.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 19:13 GMT
#3164
On August 22 2017 04:10 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 04:08 geript wrote:
On August 22 2017 04:06 CopCake wrote:
@Geript

Who are the three dumb players / bought that HF got cop?m
Who?

Dont avoid this question

Idk, me, ritoky, Rels?


Ritoki bought HF vest thing?

Rels was dead

You considered yourself dumb?

No real answer, I want the truth now.


you said cop in previous post, not vest.

the question you're wanting to ask is "who do you think is gullible enough to fall for hf claiming he picked doctor and protected ritoky instead of vesting himself?"
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 19:23 GMT
#3172
On August 22 2017 04:14 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 04:13 ritoky wrote:
On August 22 2017 04:10 CopCake wrote:
On August 22 2017 04:08 geript wrote:
On August 22 2017 04:06 CopCake wrote:
@Geript

Who are the three dumb players / bought that HF got cop?m
Who?

Dont avoid this question

Idk, me, ritoky, Rels?


Ritoki bought HF vest thing?

Rels was dead

You considered yourself dumb?

No real answer, I want the truth now.


you said cop in previous post, not vest.

the question you're wanting to ask is "who do you think is gullible enough to fall for hf claiming he picked doctor and protected ritoky instead of vesting himself?"


HF claimed that he got cop lol


? Your timeline is mixed up. HF claimed he was going to vest N1 and took cop and green checked me. HF claimed he was going to doc protect me N2 and took vest and didn't die presumably......rels wasn't dead when he claimed the green, and I don't know what your point is really, that we're being bamboozled?

Your world is just too unlikely for me to believe. The judges had to incorrectly TR him, then he had to win PR twice, fake claim a green check, then hold a shot for no reason. To get more TR is not a reason, when a shot on me is freelo; shoot your green check and say "damn I tried to trick them by claiming doc and vesting, my bad ritoky." There's just too many mental hurdles that I can't get there.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 19:27 GMT
#3173
hf you realize you're voting w/ tumblewood right? lol
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 19:29 GMT
#3175
am i playing a different game than most people? WHY WOULD MAFIA NOT SHOOT GHDFJGBJDGNDSJKFON
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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