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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 19 2017 18:28 GMT
#2515
i'm pretty sure at least 2/3 mafia are in hf, geript, es. third one could be jealous. maybe even rels. but i don't feel great about either of those anymore
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 19 2017 18:29 GMT
#2516
On August 20 2017 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jealous is mafia and rels is not. ggnore.

i'm with ya on the not rels but if you have a good reason on jealous it could make this decision a helluva lot easier
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 19 2017 18:32 GMT
#2521
this is kinda backwards logic but maybe lynching rels is the better play here. either he is mafia, in which case i am totally fine with being wrong, or he is town and maybe the judges put hf and geript in the other pool. because they're gonna say if he flips town, "nope i would lynch him again. 100% had all the signs, basically claimed scum," but i think it is clear that the case they have is much weaker than they are giving it credit for. you can tell because they are basically trying to bully town into the lynch instead of letting the case speak for itself.
then again i still think jealous has a better chance of flipping mafia. and i like lynching mafia.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 19 2017 18:36 GMT
#2528
On August 20 2017 03:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2017 03:29 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 20 2017 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jealous is mafia and rels is not. ggnore.

i'm with ya on the not rels but if you have a good reason on jealous it could make this decision a helluva lot easier

read Converion.

i already read that case, and what i got out of it was more that conversion was town than that jealous was scum. i'd put jealous at maybe 40% mafia.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 19 2017 20:04 GMT
#2582
conv why are you not voting jealous despite your case on him?
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 19 2017 20:18 GMT
#2600
On August 20 2017 05:16 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2017 02:23 Holyflare wrote:
No I'm not letting him talk. I already see you posturing to change votes off of him and I'm not allowing it.

Lynching anyone other than rels is a direct scum claim.


This is so fucking bull shit. I called it before rayn even did it. It was so fucking plain as day. Rels didn't even get to reply to rayn's question and he's already gagging to switch to jealous.

Rayn has to be mafia here. It looks so unnatural.

4 jealous voters and only 3 mafia. how could it be?
and rayn had already said jealous was mafia at that point iirc
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 19 2017 20:22 GMT
#2606
On August 20 2017 05:18 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2017 05:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 20 2017 05:16 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2017 02:23 Holyflare wrote:
No I'm not letting him talk. I already see you posturing to change votes off of him and I'm not allowing it.

Lynching anyone other than rels is a direct scum claim.


This is so fucking bull shit. I called it before rayn even did it. It was so fucking plain as day. Rels didn't even get to reply to rayn's question and he's already gagging to switch to jealous.

Rayn has to be mafia here. It looks so unnatural.


But isn't rayn "mod cleared"


Then why isn't he dead last night?

why aren't you dead if you have already solved the game, you always die n1, and mafia have a roleblock?
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 19 2017 20:25 GMT
#2618
On August 20 2017 05:23 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2017 05:22 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 20 2017 05:18 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2017 05:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 20 2017 05:16 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2017 02:23 Holyflare wrote:
No I'm not letting him talk. I already see you posturing to change votes off of him and I'm not allowing it.

Lynching anyone other than rels is a direct scum claim.


This is so fucking bull shit. I called it before rayn even did it. It was so fucking plain as day. Rels didn't even get to reply to rayn's question and he's already gagging to switch to jealous.

Rayn has to be mafia here. It looks so unnatural.


But isn't rayn "mod cleared"


Then why isn't he dead last night?

why aren't you dead if you have already solved the game, you always die n1, and mafia have a roleblock?


?????
Mafia don't have a roleblock and I won the contest. Are you mad?

i could swear mafia started out with a rb
+ Show Spoiler [haha sick joke] +
not that they dont anyway LoOL
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 19 2017 20:28 GMT
#2624
On August 20 2017 05:27 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2017 05:25 CopCake wrote:
On August 20 2017 05:23 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2017 05:22 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 20 2017 05:18 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2017 05:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 20 2017 05:16 Holyflare wrote:
On August 20 2017 02:23 Holyflare wrote:
No I'm not letting him talk. I already see you posturing to change votes off of him and I'm not allowing it.

Lynching anyone other than rels is a direct scum claim.


This is so fucking bull shit. I called it before rayn even did it. It was so fucking plain as day. Rels didn't even get to reply to rayn's question and he's already gagging to switch to jealous.

Rayn has to be mafia here. It looks so unnatural.


But isn't rayn "mod cleared"


Then why isn't he dead last night?

why aren't you dead if you have already solved the game, you always die n1, and mafia have a roleblock?


?????
Mafia don't have a roleblock and I won the contest. Are you mad?


How can you prove Mafia doesn't have a role block if town doesn't have actions?


THE OPEN SETUP ?!?

Show nested quote +
On August 06 2017 05:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 06 2017 05:01 geript wrote:
Question: It seems to be understood in the setup, but the Judges win with town correct? Is there anything to stop the judges from picking the players who they think are playing the best/worst regardless of what they think their alignment is?

They win with town. There is nothing to stop them from picking the best/worst players. The setup is fully open and there are no hidden mechanics.


i think the point is, mafia can sit on an rb and claim it is a vest. unlike with a vig shot for example
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 19 2017 20:29 GMT
#2626
On August 20 2017 05:27 Rels wrote:
Hf if you're town you're weirdly acting. Your read strength is not what I expect

i don't think it's read strength (see hm3 d1), just how controlling he is
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 19 2017 20:37 GMT
#2638
On August 20 2017 05:35 Holyflare wrote:
Mafia have to be on the jealous train. I see absolutely 0 reason to ever not vote rels today. 0 content provided.

ah yes i think it is reasonable to conclude that the wagon that flipped town was pure and all the mafia (Disagreers Of Holyflare) were on the other one.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 19 2017 20:39 GMT
#2639
i assure you, even though my read was wrong, any real townie would have bought into it 100%. it was basically infallible.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 19 2017 20:40 GMT
#2644
On August 20 2017 05:39 CopCake wrote:
*Tinfoils on RaynxHolyflare *


i eliminated that possibility on d1 when they didn't shit up the thread more in their fight
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 21 2017 00:51 GMT
#2981
i am fine with either choice besides geript. conv and copcake are both highly town.
the (non) NK could go either way. it makes hf townier, but mafia does not lose that much from holding a shot. LYLO becomes MYLO. maybe 80% mafia -> 60% mafia.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 21 2017 01:00 GMT
#2982
On August 21 2017 09:51 Tumblewood wrote:
i am fine with either choice besides geript. conv and copcake are both highly town.
the (non) NK could go either way. it makes hf townier, but mafia does not lose that much from holding a shot. LYLO becomes MYLO. maybe 80% mafia -> 60% mafia.

never mind bring that down to like 40%. mylo isn't much better than lylo but mylo with vig sure is. still raises the question of, why does a non-hf team try to shoot a possibly vested hf whose town cred is at an all-time low. bring that back up to 50%, that's my final answer.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 21 2017 04:58 GMT
#2991
On August 21 2017 10:26 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2017 09:51 Tumblewood wrote:
i am fine with either choice besides geript. conv and copcake are both highly town.
the (non) NK could go either way. it makes hf townier, but mafia does not lose that much from holding a shot. LYLO becomes MYLO. maybe 80% mafia -> 60% mafia.


Hello apparently "super scum" person.

Reads?

i have list posts in my filter from pretty recently. but whatever

likely mafia
geript

solid lynches
jealous
es
hf

not so sure
rit

town
everyone else
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 21 2017 05:12 GMT
#2992
On August 21 2017 11:48 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2017 09:51 Tumblewood wrote:
i am fine with either choice besides geript. conv and copcake are both highly town.
the (non) NK could go either way. it makes hf townier, but mafia does not lose that much from holding a shot. LYLO becomes MYLO. maybe 80% mafia -> 60% mafia.


What makes conv highly likely town? Copcake too if you're feeling generous.

this is a feels read so i'm not gonna do a great job of vocalizing why i think conv is town, but i will say that i towned him pretty early, and every time i wasn't so sure i saw some posts by conv and was like "oh yeah, def town." this is an example of such a post (though now i'm hoping i didn't get played by emo... i would rewrite my list post to take some likelihood from other people and say conv and 1der are 20% scum each. reading conv attacks on 1der makes me less sure on 1der, and reading conv filter makes me less sure on conv.)
cake is an easier one to explain. a rare combination of not-getting-anywhere and tenacity. i can tell cake really believes her reads and i do believe she is actually frustrated by people not listening. the logic is shaky but i think just about anyone can bullshit decent reasoning, so she is in a way more town for it.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 21 2017 05:13 GMT
#2993
i think at start of n2 i hit peak certainty, and that is degenerating quick.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 21 2017 15:38 GMT
#3076
On August 21 2017 23:08 Holyflare wrote:
I just want to lynch Tumblewood. I don't really care about much else. His lists are so bull shit. When has he ever given % chances to his reads?

If tw is mafia then cop and rayn are basically cleared town too.

i haven't given percent chances to my reads lists before, but why does that make me scum? i think it's a more granular way of explaining my confidence on every read, and eliminates confusion — like, completely hypothetically, when my 33% read is in my lynch pool and everyone yells at me for an entire day.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 21 2017 15:44 GMT
#3082
On August 22 2017 00:38 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 00:38 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 21 2017 23:08 Holyflare wrote:
I just want to lynch Tumblewood. I don't really care about much else. His lists are so bull shit. When has he ever given % chances to his reads?

If tw is mafia then cop and rayn are basically cleared town too.

i haven't given percent chances to my reads lists before, but why does that make me scum? i think it's a more granular way of explaining my confidence on every read, and eliminates confusion — like, completely hypothetically, when my 33% read is in my lynch pool and everyone yells at me for an entire day.


Because whenever I see you make a read it's based off dumb crap but it's resolute and you don't waiver on it. This uncertainty bugs me a lot.

i haven't at any point acted too certain about my scumreads. except at eod2 when i really was that confident on you, and said so. and even if you don't understand them, i think my townreads are very good, and that is reflected too.
good times for all
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