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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 15 2017 19:10 GMT
#981
And holyflare joins the scummy pile.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 15 2017 19:13 GMT
#982
I'm gonna have lunch instead of filtering copcake because I don't want to do what 1derboy asked me to do. I see you conversion I'll do it for you later
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 15 2017 19:13 GMT
#983
On August 16 2017 04:10 ritoky wrote:
And holyflare joins the scummy pile.


This just confirms the read baby! You're never this bad at reading me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 15 2017 19:14 GMT
#984
All vests all the time.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 15 2017 19:16 GMT
#985
Cool beans!
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 15 2017 19:17 GMT
#986
I hear I also challenge you a ton on day 1 as mafia, it's a thing I do.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 15 2017 19:21 GMT
#987
On August 16 2017 04:04 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2017 03:56 CopCake wrote:
On August 15 2017 22:08 Conversion wrote:
also if rayn is mafia, then is cop mafia too by virtue of sticking up for him?

On August 15 2017 11:07 CopCake wrote:
On August 15 2017 11:03 Jealous wrote:
On August 15 2017 10:57 CopCake wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 15 2017 10:49 ritoky wrote:
i think the judges botched it hard on the top vote so i feel like we're going to either get more that i disagree with in the bottom or a pile of afks.

i am sorry, but copcake hasn't been town. i can understand people having null reads on her or slight lean reads, but townier than an angle shooter or hopeless? no way, not even in the same realm.

i think it is the absolute pinnacle of arrogance for the judges to put hf in the top thinking that they have a good enough read on him d1 to give him a power. "but if we don't protect him, he'll die n1 and we need him to champion the thread." bitch please the judges have no clue about his alignment yet just like i don't.

with jealous i can see the humor and the not give a fuck attitude coming off as super town to basically an observer so that 1 i can see from their perspective.

but i don't really want to vote for any of them.


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Like he doesn't care

also pls give rayn some time :/

This comes from someone that talks to him everyday, I know he had a shitty day and got almost not sleep.



This is the post HF


So it's conversion and not hopeless? And it's one person not many. And it's not a scum read, it's a hypothetical. I don't think conversion scum reads rayn at that point?

So why is it a forest of wolves and why did you feel the need to tell people to lynch you or whatever?

What have you done other than say rayn is actually afk? Where are the scum reads/town reads?

I've said rels is actually afk irl (steam) but I've actually got reads too. Soooooooo where are yours?


Dude wtf, what is your problem? I said several people and said who: ritoki, tumblewood in the begining, you when rayn came back etc

Honestly wtf you are putting fucking words on my mouth.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 15 2017 19:28 GMT
#988
I think your read on rayn is mostly garbo about non sequitur and unmet expectations and the method you're choosing to push it is also unconvincing garbo about making the player look dumb/contradicting themselves rather than categorizing the play as scum indicative. Where's your bullet point list that you spam on repeat 80 times making sure no one ever forgets these points that make you infallible and him always mafia?

To that end I think rayn's reads are pretty fine.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 15 2017 19:29 GMT
#989
i dont like HF he said that I couldnt be mafia just because I asked for time for rayn then he asks me why I feel like a sheep walking with wolves and asked me for quotes, a quote he knows it exists because he quoted himself but apparently I am mafia because one person said that I was for said quote and not several.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 15 2017 19:30 GMT
#990
On August 16 2017 04:21 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2017 04:04 Holyflare wrote:
On August 16 2017 03:56 CopCake wrote:
On August 15 2017 22:08 Conversion wrote:
also if rayn is mafia, then is cop mafia too by virtue of sticking up for him?

On August 15 2017 11:07 CopCake wrote:
On August 15 2017 11:03 Jealous wrote:
On August 15 2017 10:57 CopCake wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 15 2017 10:49 ritoky wrote:
i think the judges botched it hard on the top vote so i feel like we're going to either get more that i disagree with in the bottom or a pile of afks.

i am sorry, but copcake hasn't been town. i can understand people having null reads on her or slight lean reads, but townier than an angle shooter or hopeless? no way, not even in the same realm.

i think it is the absolute pinnacle of arrogance for the judges to put hf in the top thinking that they have a good enough read on him d1 to give him a power. "but if we don't protect him, he'll die n1 and we need him to champion the thread." bitch please the judges have no clue about his alignment yet just like i don't.

with jealous i can see the humor and the not give a fuck attitude coming off as super town to basically an observer so that 1 i can see from their perspective.

but i don't really want to vote for any of them.


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Like he doesn't care

also pls give rayn some time :/

This comes from someone that talks to him everyday, I know he had a shitty day and got almost not sleep.



This is the post HF


So it's conversion and not hopeless? And it's one person not many. And it's not a scum read, it's a hypothetical. I don't think conversion scum reads rayn at that point?

So why is it a forest of wolves and why did you feel the need to tell people to lynch you or whatever?

What have you done other than say rayn is actually afk? Where are the scum reads/town reads?

I've said rels is actually afk irl (steam) but I've actually got reads too. Soooooooo where are yours?


Dude wtf, what is your problem? I said several people and said who: ritoki, tumblewood in the begining, you when rayn came back etc

Honestly wtf you are putting fucking words on my mouth.


I don't have a problem? I asked you what you did today and apparently it was just say that rayn was legit afk and that you got called scummy. You said you did good things that looked scummy but I don't see any of the good things.

What are your reads and why?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 15 2017 19:31 GMT
#991
Well I don't know where rayn got his damdred town read from, that one is weird.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 15 2017 19:31 GMT
#992
On iPad, so it's hard to properly snip quotes from Ryan's big post. A few things:
HF's question (@~18 hrs in) was: "Why is TW's null read on cop bad when you (Rayn) had a null read on her?"
Ryan's argument sounds good, but I don't think actually is basically: TW=/=Rayn. Which is true, but Rayn isn't really analyzing what TW is doing. If Rayn (who is better and has oodles of XP with Cop) has a null read at that point on Cop, it should be more odd (to Rayn) if TW comes up with a read on her. What's even worse is that Rayn calls TW bad for post 190 (a point I agree with), but Rayn doesn't dig to realize that TW is in fact calling Cop Town there. Big point: Rayn not critically reading/analyzing

Side note: there's a point to be made here that the same point can be made HF looks bad for making the argument in the first place. I'm excusing that in this case, because most good players will often stretch bad/mediocre arguments in order to push a "read" in order to get a read. Here, Ryan's 'clarification' proves the big point of him not readin/analyzing critically as Town Rayn would.


Ryan's HF argument of Conversion push into Onegu push is bad.

Ryan's ritoky argument is actually good.
@HF why did you call ritoky' Hopeless being in top 3 read disingenuous? You basically at the same time have Hopeless in top 3 Town and hopeless' activity burst was 24 hours ago until 18 hours ago IIRC.
Still looking.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 15 2017 19:31 GMT
#993
On August 16 2017 04:28 ritoky wrote:
I think your read on rayn is mostly garbo about non sequitur and unmet expectations and the method you're choosing to push it is also unconvincing garbo about making the player look dumb/contradicting themselves rather than categorizing the play as scum indicative. Where's your bullet point list that you spam on repeat 80 times making sure no one ever forgets these points that make you infallible and him always mafia?

To that end I think rayn's reads are pretty fine.


I can't be bothered to do that when 90% of the game is on board with it. This game mode is also semi garbage because I can't make a case to get people to vote someone when I don't even know who is going to be up for lynch.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 15 2017 19:33 GMT
#994
On August 16 2017 04:31 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2017 04:28 ritoky wrote:
I think your read on rayn is mostly garbo about non sequitur and unmet expectations and the method you're choosing to push it is also unconvincing garbo about making the player look dumb/contradicting themselves rather than categorizing the play as scum indicative. Where's your bullet point list that you spam on repeat 80 times making sure no one ever forgets these points that make you infallible and him always mafia?

To that end I think rayn's reads are pretty fine.


I can't be bothered to do that when 90% of the game is on board with it. This game mode is also semi garbage because I can't make a case to get people to vote someone when I don't even know who is going to be up for lynch.


I agree with the 2nd part, I feel like my wings are clipped because even if I felt super compelled to lynch someone I have to convince koshi to allow me to, which ain't happening.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 15 2017 19:33 GMT
#995
ritoky i am sorry i have to work 16/24 after tomorrow.
goodluck, try to make Damdred be town.
table for two on a tv tray
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 15 2017 19:33 GMT
#996
On August 15 2017 22:11 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 22:08 Conversion wrote:
also if rayn is mafia, then is cop mafia too by virtue of sticking up for him?

On August 15 2017 11:07 CopCake wrote:
On August 15 2017 11:03 Jealous wrote:
On August 15 2017 10:57 CopCake wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 15 2017 10:49 ritoky wrote:
i think the judges botched it hard on the top vote so i feel like we're going to either get more that i disagree with in the bottom or a pile of afks.

i am sorry, but copcake hasn't been town. i can understand people having null reads on her or slight lean reads, but townier than an angle shooter or hopeless? no way, not even in the same realm.

i think it is the absolute pinnacle of arrogance for the judges to put hf in the top thinking that they have a good enough read on him d1 to give him a power. "but if we don't protect him, he'll die n1 and we need him to champion the thread." bitch please the judges have no clue about his alignment yet just like i don't.

with jealous i can see the humor and the not give a fuck attitude coming off as super town to basically an observer so that 1 i can see from their perspective.

but i don't really want to vote for any of them.


[image loading]

[image loading]



Like he doesn't care

also pls give rayn some time :/

This comes from someone that talks to him everyday, I know he had a shitty day and got almost not sleep.



Not at all. Doesn't mean she couldn't be mafia though just not for this reason.


This is were he knows that someone called me mafia for that
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 15 2017 19:33 GMT
#997
On August 16 2017 04:31 geript wrote:
On iPad, so it's hard to properly snip quotes from Ryan's big post. A few things:
HF's question (@~18 hrs in) was: "Why is TW's null read on cop bad when you (Rayn) had a null read on her?"
Ryan's argument sounds good, but I don't think actually is basically: TW=/=Rayn. Which is true, but Rayn isn't really analyzing what TW is doing. If Rayn (who is better and has oodles of XP with Cop) has a null read at that point on Cop, it should be more odd (to Rayn) if TW comes up with a read on her. What's even worse is that Rayn calls TW bad for post 190 (a point I agree with), but Rayn doesn't dig to realize that TW is in fact calling Cop Town there. Big point: Rayn not critically reading/analyzing

Side note: there's a point to be made here that the same point can be made HF looks bad for making the argument in the first place. I'm excusing that in this case, because most good players will often stretch bad/mediocre arguments in order to push a "read" in order to get a read. Here, Ryan's 'clarification' proves the big point of him not readin/analyzing critically as Town Rayn would.


Ryan's HF argument of Conversion push into Onegu push is bad.

Ryan's ritoky argument is actually good.
@HF why did you call ritoky' Hopeless being in top 3 read disingenuous? You basically at the same time have Hopeless in top 3 Town and hopeless' activity burst was 24 hours ago until 18 hours ago IIRC.
Still looking.


Hopeless started being good near when the people got picked. At least that's when I started properly town reading him?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 15 2017 19:41 GMT
#998
copcake are you town? can you tell me who else is town?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 15 2017 19:41 GMT
#999
On August 16 2017 04:29 CopCake wrote:
i dont like HF he said that I couldnt be mafia just because I asked for time for rayn then he asks me why I feel like a sheep walking with wolves and asked me for quotes, a quote he knows it exists because he quoted himself but apparently I am mafia because one person said that I was for said quote and not several.


for the record I never scumread you for that

what is it with both you and rayn taking my words way out of line and thinking I'm attacking you? the question wasn't even addressed to you, nor was I saying copcake = scum for defending rayn. it was a question of logic that HF quickly dismissed (cop can be scum, but not for the reason you pointed out)
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 15 2017 19:43 GMT
#1000
On August 16 2017 04:33 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2017 04:31 geript wrote:
On iPad, so it's hard to properly snip quotes from Ryan's big post. A few things:
HF's question (@~18 hrs in) was: "Why is TW's null read on cop bad when you (Rayn) had a null read on her?"
Ryan's argument sounds good, but I don't think actually is basically: TW=/=Rayn. Which is true, but Rayn isn't really analyzing what TW is doing. If Rayn (who is better and has oodles of XP with Cop) has a null read at that point on Cop, it should be more odd (to Rayn) if TW comes up with a read on her. What's even worse is that Rayn calls TW bad for post 190 (a point I agree with), but Rayn doesn't dig to realize that TW is in fact calling Cop Town there. Big point: Rayn not critically reading/analyzing

Side note: there's a point to be made here that the same point can be made HF looks bad for making the argument in the first place. I'm excusing that in this case, because most good players will often stretch bad/mediocre arguments in order to push a "read" in order to get a read. Here, Ryan's 'clarification' proves the big point of him not readin/analyzing critically as Town Rayn would.


Ryan's HF argument of Conversion push into Onegu push is bad.

Ryan's ritoky argument is actually good.
@HF why did you call ritoky' Hopeless being in top 3 read disingenuous? You basically at the same time have Hopeless in top 3 Town and hopeless' activity burst was 24 hours ago until 18 hours ago IIRC.
Still looking.


Hopeless started being good near when the people got picked. At least that's when I started properly town reading him?

Actually NM, I'm reading your posts on ritoky wrong.
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