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On August 15 2017 00:19 Holyflare wrote:
Town tw doesn't give a shit what people think and just posts town and scum reads freely
On August 15 2017 00:25 geript wrote: Last game you (Town TW) just thought whatever stupid shit you thought.
These are the applicable meta points.
On August 15 2017 00:16 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2017 00:09 geript wrote:On August 15 2017 00:01 Holyflare wrote:
Tumblewood what is the town rayn motivation to say you have a bad post and then have no elaboration but just afk?
TW drops to scummy for missing obvious point of post. TW is approaching the game super differently from last game. Literally not a single read but spends his time poopooing reads. i have "poopoo'd" 1 read. literally i have less than 10 posts in a ridiculously inactive d1. and you may have noticed that all the ones today have not been as you described. so um stop looking for excuses to attack me?
There are two big things in this post. First, TW bothers to point out that the meta attack is super weak based on how this game has played out but isn't approaching it from either "bad meta you're scum" or "dude we're both town and you should see that because bad meta." It's literally just a release the pressure valve post; and pressure release isn't how TW seems to respond to pressure as town (see above meta). Second, is:
On August 15 2017 00:16 Tumblewood wrote: so um stop looking for excuses to attack me?
It's fucking passive as hell. Somewhat a continuation on meta, but really more an extenuation of scum mentality and more of this:
On August 14 2017 14:24 Tumblewood wrote:
tempted to call everyone who posted in the last 2 hours town. partially for the posting and partially for the posts, if that makes sense.
It's not a read, it's not a push. He can fully back off from it. It's posting to post, not posting to convey a point. Town!TW is able to explain his bad reads (kinda) and can easily respond to:
On August 15 2017 00:01 Holyflare wrote:
Tumblewood what is the town rayn motivation to say you have a bad post and then have no elaboration but just afk?
TW drops to scummy for missing obvious point of post.
Without giving a completely fucking non-sensical response he does here.
On August 15 2017 00:11 Tumblewood wrote:
maybe you don't want or aren't able to post the analysis? dunno bout you but in my experience town have enough motivation to do it plenty of the time.
and then what would be the motivation for scum trying to look like town?
This is not an answer. It's not a coherent thought. It's not even a fucking weird thought like TW's Conversion read is (or many of his reads last game). It doesn't answer the question, it doesn't do anything.
More (full) meta later on when I have time to do a big read.
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On August 15 2017 00:34 Damdred wrote:
Geript might be scum though, that read is a bit flimsy though.
Explain now
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HF, can we just agree to lynch Rayn unless he comes back and shits super fucking town rainbows and talk about other people for the next 24 hours? The horse is already pulp, you can stop beating it.
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On August 15 2017 02:02 Holyflare wrote:
No I'm getting a read on tw. If he's mafia rayn is town.
Why can't they both share an alignment?
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On August 15 2017 02:07 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2017 02:05 geript wrote:On August 15 2017 02:02 Holyflare wrote:
No I'm getting a read on tw. If he's mafia rayn is town. Why can't they both share an alignment? duh, did u see how much information i have? waay too much information
Let me rephrase. Why can't they both be scum?
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Lol, u posted in the wrong thread
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On August 15 2017 02:13 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2017 02:09 geript wrote:On August 15 2017 02:07 Tumblewood wrote:On August 15 2017 02:05 geript wrote:On August 15 2017 02:02 Holyflare wrote:
No I'm getting a read on tw. If he's mafia rayn is town. Why can't they both share an alignment? duh, did u see how much information i have? waay too much information Let me rephrase. Why can't they both be scum? Well obviously Rayn would never let TW defend him with such a terrible meta defense kappa /s?
I don't ever remember Rayn being a team controlling player; besides it's not like TW is sitting on Ryan's lap waiting for daddy to approve his posts and hit send. There's more reason to call TW scum than just "perfect knowledge."
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On August 15 2017 02:27 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2017 02:23 geript wrote:On August 15 2017 02:13 Hopeless1der wrote:On August 15 2017 02:09 geript wrote:On August 15 2017 02:07 Tumblewood wrote:On August 15 2017 02:05 geript wrote:On August 15 2017 02:02 Holyflare wrote:
No I'm getting a read on tw. If he's mafia rayn is town. Why can't they both share an alignment? duh, did u see how much information i have? waay too much information Let me rephrase. Why can't they both be scum? Well obviously Rayn would never let TW defend him with such a terrible meta defense kappa /s? I don't ever remember Rayn being a team controlling player; besides it's not like TW is sitting on Ryan's lap waiting for daddy to approve his posts and hit send. There's more reason to call TW scum than just "perfect knowledge." I'm not subscribed to the idea that one's alignment affects the other's, just in case it wasn't clear, but TW is scum and rayn is town to me.
Why is Rayn Town? He's not even Rayn-lite currently. Drunk Rayn has more to say and more coherent thoughts. Town!Rayn does something. Town!Rayn doesn't forget that I'm the one that pushed Jealous to post instead of draw picture. Town!Rayn has reads:
On August 14 2017 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote + Initially you said so we'd have one person to lynch. Which I think is stupid. Vote count analysis is the basic mafia game. No i didn't, i said "the idea is the judges will nominate 2 ppl and the one they give the power so we have one dude noone is gonna vote." which is 2 lynch wagons instead of 3. It's not stupid, in fact it is so OP Artanis decided to remove it from the game.... That in itself should probably tell you something about if it is stupid or not... Because me not giving reads doesn't make me anything. It is that fucking simple. I have until tomorrow night to decide who i think is mafia. Your read on ritoky is also garbage because the Jealous thing was obviously at least a half joke and "he got mad over being a clock in someone's picture" is a terrible reason to call anyone mafia. In fact ritoky's, what to call it... un-tryhardness probably makes him town. geript can also be town for now since he tried to break the game. Cake always thinks i am mafia when she is town so i don't see a reason why she wouldn't do that as mafia. It's actually quite annoying especially when the reasoning is something she didn't even properly read in the first place. It's like Xatalos annoying. For the record there are probably 0 games where Cake has read the OP as any alignment so there goes that dumbtell theory, i don't even know what the Jealous one is. I agree with whoever said Jealous should post properly. I don't care if he is posting reads in the pictures, posting reads doesn't make people town, because almost any mafia nowadays is not stupid enough to not post reads or do anything and get caught by it. At least i can't figure out motivation of post from a picture in a same way than i can from written text, and i would like him to play properly. Then there is Tumblewood who started questioning Cake (which i liked) and then ended up with "well i didn't even think that makes you anything" which i hated. Into "let's be town everyone" post. I have seen Tumblewood do the same sort of questioning before and it didn't end like that. rn i am too lazy and sleepy to dig up more into that, gotta eat and sleep first. I almost have a read on Hopelesswonder but i don't. I most likely will though when he posts more. You can be anything and i tend to not really care unless you do something scummy. You will probably die early anyways in case you are town. But you won't bully me into doing something i don't want to do, I will talk to you when you have something i don't find badly reasoned. Everyone else has not done anything i can make something of.
This has nothing on anybody in a way that Town!Rayn thinks about the game.
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On August 15 2017 00:34 Damdred wrote:
Geript might be scum though, that read is a bit flimsy though.
Time to explain this
On August 15 2017 03:29 Damdred wrote:
Geript will never be town to me ritoky, our trust is broken.
You're the one who stood me up. You could've had that good Geript D you always wanted
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On August 15 2017 04:53 Damdred wrote:
I am unsure what I really think of you right now geript.
I think you are just probably town and I'm being a bit off right now, but I'm not sold on it just yet.
Like I should have a much stronger read on ritoky here as well but he's doing one or two things tag are worrying me slightly.
As for actual scum reads, I am lacking in that department.
I actually need you to talk about why you thought I was scum and are waffles on me now dear. I think Artanis would frown on us going back to our QT to talk and I'm pretty waffles to scum on you. There's no #Damdred read from you yet that I can see.
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On August 15 2017 05:19 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2017 05:09 geript wrote:On August 15 2017 04:53 Damdred wrote:
I am unsure what I really think of you right now geript.
I think you are just probably town and I'm being a bit off right now, but I'm not sold on it just yet.
Like I should have a much stronger read on ritoky here as well but he's doing one or two things tag are worrying me slightly.
As for actual scum reads, I am lacking in that department. I actually need you to talk about why you thought I was scum and are waffles on me now dear. I think Artanis would frown on us going back to our QT to talk and I'm pretty waffles to scum on you. There's no #Damdred read from you yet that I can see. Honestly at one point you just seem way to pointed and have so much direction early on. And started to get a thread prescense while get to town read. It made me think of a few I your msg games. The later postings seem pretty towny, and the initial play I think comes from town not likely.
Eh.... I can understand pointed/directed geript = scum geript; I don't think it's wholly right and this game setup changes things a little.
Why do you like copcake? I really hated her aside post on Rayn.
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Like I knew Koshi and Vivax would never vote for me because I remind them their trash tier players, but I'm still mad about not being top 3.
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On August 15 2017 05:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
I was about to say geript lol..
I'm voting jealous. I dont trust HF yet and cake just pulled some shit at the end of the day there.
I feel like having legit drawings was a requirement at this point.
I think voting Jealous is only marginally better than voting Copcake. But both are bad. HF hasn't really been pushing bullshit; he just feels like Town. Jealous hasn't really done anything and isn't really pushing any agenda; just mostly distraction shit. That's chezinu mafia meta. Even Slam tries to make points in his incoherent messes. That's a major gamble imo.
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On August 15 2017 05:55 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2017 05:51 Damdred wrote:
How am I avoiding you cupcake? O.o
And geript I liked her rayn dig at first, kinda fling down since then though. I never saw you quoting me or asking me thing and you promised we work together
He often breaks his promises and hearts. He's really a big fat liar liar pants on fire.
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I think I may go take a 6+ hour nap then filter before the SkT match.
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On August 15 2017 11:07 ritoky wrote:
jealous - ???? he's funny, but proclaims self dunce which makes it feel like an act and since his geript boner died he has felt pretty preipheral, pretty hard meh.
This is so fucking spot on.
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Rayn--Not exactly new, but Rayn not wanting to lynch "dumb" and not actively doing something is super fucking weird. Like, usually he gets pretty triggered by dumb shit and hardcore pushes a lynch onto people for it. The TW "last two hours" post non-read strikes me as something he'd feast on.
Ritoky--I just kinda think he's town. He feels like he's doing something as opposed to trying to do something. I'll filter him to confirm at some point
On August 15 2017 00:52 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2017 00:38 Holyflare wrote:On August 15 2017 00:32 Damdred wrote:
What do you disagree with so vehemently in the rayn read tw?
(Btw I think tw is town) Why??? I guess he could be scum? But I am unsure and don't think scum tw would go so hard after your rayn read. And cupcake rayn read early. Granted it could be a chainsaw defense and the likelihood of him being scum goes up drastically if we assume something odd is there. But I don't think so I think tw just doesn't like the argument and has drawn a lot of attention to himself.
Damdred--I'm super waffles on. I like that he also brings up Jealous as doing basically nothing. But I've found that usually when damdred is town there's a cool read that I want to steal from him. Something that sparks me to think about players in a new way or just rings as being true. There's something that shows that he's thinking about the game as opposed to just playing the game. And I'm not seeing that here. But I like that he still wants lynch Rayn. But Damdred also thinks TW is town for reasons that I don't really associate with town!damdred.
TW--Little new here. tldr, this game he gives fucks about what people think about what he posts while he doesn't seem to normally as town and he's more interactive rather than shouting at thread
Jealous--The only reason I can think of to townread him is is that he's only posting via gif and that scum are super unlikely to limit their thread pull to that little an effect. That's the quality of argument that I think would appeal to both Koshi and Vivax. I don't think there's any real reason to read this guy as anything and I'll be happy to lynch him whenever the fuck I get a chance. I don't understand anyone who's voting to give this guy the power-up.
FF--Is basically not playing the game
HF--I'm not going to claim to be a god at reading HF. But he feels a lot like day 2 in Generic; he has an agenda to push but it's not any specific agenda. He posts don't remind me of a used car salesman which is basically how I felt most of last game.
Copcake--I will come back to her at the end
Conversion--On August 14 2017 22:53 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2017 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Initially you said so we'd have one person to lynch. Which I think is stupid. Vote count analysis is the basic mafia game. No i didn't, i said "the idea is the judges will nominate 2 ppl and the one they give the power so we have one dude noone is gonna vote." which is 2 lynch wagons instead of 3. It's not stupid, in fact it is so OP Artanis decided to remove it from the game.... That in itself should probably tell you something about if it is stupid or not... Because me not giving reads doesn't make me anything. It is that fucking simple. I have until tomorrow night to decide who i think is mafia. Your read on ritoky is also garbage because the Jealous thing was obviously at least a half joke and "he got mad over being a clock in someone's picture" is a terrible reason to call anyone mafia. In fact ritoky's, what to call it... un-tryhardness probably makes him town. geript can also be town for now since he tried to break the game. Cake always thinks i am mafia when she is town so i don't see a reason why she wouldn't do that as mafia. It's actually quite annoying especially when the reasoning is something she didn't even properly read in the first place. It's like Xatalos annoying. For the record there are probably 0 games where Cake has read the OP as any alignment so there goes that dumbtell theory, i don't even know what the Jealous one is. I agree with whoever said Jealous should post properly. I don't care if he is posting reads in the pictures, posting reads doesn't make people town, because almost any mafia nowadays is not stupid enough to not post reads or do anything and get caught by it. At least i can't figure out motivation of post from a picture in a same way than i can from written text, and i would like him to play properly. Then there is Tumblewood who started questioning Cake (which i liked) and then ended up with "well i didn't even think that makes you anything" which i hated. Into "let's be town everyone" post. I have seen Tumblewood do the same sort of questioning before and it didn't end like that. rn i am too lazy and sleepy to dig up more into that, gotta eat and sleep first. I almost have a read on Hopelesswonder but i don't. I most likely will though when he posts more.
You can be anything and i tend to not really care unless you do something scummy. You will probably die early anyways in case you are town. But you won't bully me into doing something i don't want to do, I will talk to you when you have something i don't find badly reasoned. Everyone else has not done anything i can make something of. do you mind me asking how you almost have a read on someone who only has two posts? just curious
It feels minor, but it's really weird to me that Conversion bothers to filter Hopeless but still counts hopeless' /in post. I also hate how almost every statement he ends with a question like he's unsure or qualifies some other way to downplay it. I hate it more that I can't seem to remember any specific Conversion post, but when I read his filter I'm all like meh, ugh, bad post. For a new player he feels far less active than he actually is.
Onegu--MIA
Rels--MIA
Hopeless--Other than some random stuff (like voting for Jealous), I kinda feel like he's town.
I actually feel pretty good about my townreads, but there are way too many fucking question marks. Just under half of the players are effectively or actually MIA. 2 players who are capable of being super town who aren't. Like, wtf happened? When did people en masse stop actually at least trying to play fucking mafia when they signed up? It really fucking pisses me off because I can play despite like an 8 hour D&D break, sleeping, napping, job hunting, making lunch/dinner, calling to try and setup interviews, posting about league, watching and commenting on a mostly extinct card game, etc. Like I get really tired of other people not putting in effort. I'm really tired of the constant rah rah to be readable. I'm tired. Going to shit and get a snack then come back to Cop.
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On August 15 2017 12:24 Hopeless1der wrote:
before I go to bed, I just want to point out that the last few posts of the thread are shitting on the reads of the
3 CONFIRMED TOWN JUDGES.WHO ARE TRYING TO WIN THE GAME FOR YOU PLEBS.
That is all. Make conclusions as you see fit.
(I refer specifically to Jealous, and his perceived value to the thread this cycle)
1. What contribution do you think he has actually added to the game?
2. Two of those judges are Koshi and Vivax; who to be honest, their reads are maybe accurate as mine are. Koshi is a troll half the time and Vivax is a fucking wild card at best. Neither of those guys are that strong at actually analyzing townreads IMO.
3. At least two of those judges hold grudges imo.
4. Those judges had 24 hours to pick 3 people; they're kinda on a stricter time crunch and had less to evaluate them on. They chose pretty obvious HF and two fucking wild cards. Koshi often gives no fucks when he actually plays games; putting him in a semi-obs position I don't think is going to get him that much more involved.
5. I'm actually interested in their Copcake read. That and I want to reread her, HF, and Damdred.
6. I'm still fucking salty they didn't pick me.
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