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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 14:20 GMT
#3049
I honestly think HF shouldnt win the vest
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 14:21 GMT
#3050
Ah I dont trust conversion or geript
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 14:23 GMT
#3052
On August 20 2017 14:23 CopCake wrote:
1. Raynpelikoneet
3. geript
6. Jealous
8. Holyflare
11. Conversion
16. Hopeless

Mafia is here but is still 3v3

Conversion is so fucking scum, he is good with words and his post look so polite but his actions dont match his words it annoys me so much.

I think there is a strong mafia which is either HF or Rayn, COULD be Geript who smartouted them, but definetly there is a super top tier mafia, a mastermind, I havent had the privilege to play with the others (I know I played last game bt the only new people I remember is beentheredonethat, ruxxar and tiktok)

Damdred's dead fits Rayn's scum agenda. Could also fit HF.
But Raynscum makes sense with killing Damdred and focusing on me so much.

Hopeless actions are annoying (I am annoying too I know) I feel like I have to read his filter but from super nice he became an evil machine.

Thinking in a Jelaous/Hopeless/Geript is possible but Geript it the clearest of all these 6 people.

Jelaous/Hopeless/Conversion make sense, but that would also mean the JelaousvsConversion was staged.

I dont wanna think Rayn got outsmarted, yet again Rayn is super good at scumhunting but he hasnt done it here. I have thins thing that if Rayn doesnt die in two nights he is completely mafia. Have this in mind.

Holyflare is annoying as fuck and is too arrogant, Idk if he is bad town or just straight mafia, the rayn/hf team makes sense. A LOT.

I could see "TownclearedHF" saying "I got a greencheck on rayn lol" remember everyone, HF is NOT cleared by any means by game actions like giving a green check or havent been blocked. Remember mafia can also send a no kill and pretend that it was the vest in case that way they want to clear HF. It also annoys me how he is like "the judges are dumb" to "they judges picked me twice I am so town" that is bullshit.

Pressure this 6, you all have power, you dont have to wait and be passive.

Judges give a signal of what you think with your next top super town players.

I am tired and I also feel dumb for putting too much effort.







My last reads, sorry for having you as mafia Rayn but I am trying to be neutral.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 14:25 GMT
#3053
On August 21 2017 23:21 Holyflare wrote:
I can't win the vest? Jesus christ just stop talking about me copcake. You don't even think I'm mafia and you're a broken record.


You recently said talked about a vest. And my reads say you are likely mafia. You are just yell yell yell shut up yell yell yell and if someone doesnt answer you call them mafia or say they are crybabies.

Deal with it.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 14:33 GMT
#3057
I am tired of answering the same thing over and over.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 14:50 GMT
#3061
On August 21 2017 23:42 Conversion wrote:
like if I'm reading your latest posts quote correctly, you think the scum team is Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion

except I want to lynch Jealous now that Rels flipped town and ritoky is talking, plus ritoky's post on why it makes him town doesn't make sense

I still want to lynch Hopeless

why would I want to lynch both my scummates? do you really think I have enough confidence from playing 2 town games to think I can carry my weight as scum?


It says IF the fight vs Jelaous was staged. I was trying to form who would be the mafia group with my 3 suspects to see if it would make the 6 in a shorter number.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 15:03 GMT
#3063
On August 21 2017 16:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think it wasn't far fetched at all HF/ritoky/Jealous are mafia. Holyflare has the town credit already on D1. ritoky is away. Damdred scumreads ritoky. Damdred -- whose btw ONLY scumread, i think he actually trusted on, was ritoky -- gets shot. Magically at the same time Holyflare green checks ritoky.

Holyflare read me mafia at the start of the game because i was trying to break the game (aka have judges nominate 2 mafia guys and one town guy). Holyflare doesn't claim the green check UNTIL ritoky is nominated for the lynch. I LITERALLY DID TRY TO PLAN THE SAME KIND OF THING AT THE START OF THE GAME, and he called me mafia for it....

When there is a green check claimed, ritoky stop doing shit. Now i know what you were saying earlier ritoky, but i didn't mean "up until this you have been playing properly as usual". I was saying there was a time, before this, when you seemed to pick up on the game and again, when the claim came, you stopped. That's how i felt.

Holyflare bullies everyone into voting Rels. Even when Rels flips town Holyflare blames everyone who were NOT voting for Rels.... reasoning is "Jealous wouldn't give me the power up D1", when this is the votecount:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2017 05:26 rsoultin wrote:
Day 1 Best Artists

Jealous (3): Hopeless1der, Jealous, Tumblewood, Conversion, geript, Rels
Holyflare (5): geript, Holyflare, Damdred, Fecalfeast, Hopeless1der, geript
CopCake (4): CopCake, raynpelikoneet, Tumblewood, raynpelikoneet, ritoky

Not Voting (1): Onegu


In Holyflare is set to receive the judges' powerup. Voting is mandatory for all contestants. You can vote in the voting thread.

Show nested quote +
On August 16 2017 05:29 Jealous wrote:
##Vote HolyFlare

Jealous votes HF literally seconds before the deadline and IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO HE PUTS HIS VOTE ON SINCE HF WILL ANYWAYS RECEIVE THE POWER UP as he got to 5 first!!!!

I mean like... Everything is so fucking convenient if Holyflare, ritoky, and Jealous are mafia. But:
Then there is the no kill. And i don't think Holyflare no shoots. I mean it is not like it's even a bad strategy because you become "confimed town" and will 100% receive a vig shot, i just don't think he does it, because he can just shoot someone, be almost confirmed town anyways and also most likely receive the vig shot. But i don't think there was anything wrong with my conclusion earlier, except for the conclusion.



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On August 21 2017 05:17 Holyflare wrote:
so rayn are you going to explain how you went from rels is definitely mafia to rels posting nothing to rels is town let's lynch jealous or you're going to let that ominously float around unexplained?

I simply thought Rels wasnt making up anything, was being honest, and didn't care about surviving. That's it. Trust me, i wouldn't want anything but to lynch Rels from those two yesterday if i was mafia. I just simply thought he is not mafia.

I think Tumblewood is town. Or thought.. idk i have to read him again today because i thought he was making sense last day on the lynch phase. On contrary what i said before, Cake doesn't really bus. Also they were both on Jealous and i think Jealous is mafia so i don't think they are both mafia. I think Conversion is still town. I think that makes Eversince mafia, she basically has to be mafia since Jealous is mafia too and nothing else makes sense to me. Then one of Cake / Tumblewood.

##vote geript


The "Holyflair" survival for the death of someone else at night doesnt clear him. If I was mafia and HF is town I would have killed "x" person, someone that is not posting a lot, HF mafia decided not to shoot to prove he got a "vest"

Ask yourself this when you get back:

From all the players... Who would have been fooled that HF got a cop? Which mafia would have missed the opportunity to kill someone else? Why HF? Even Geript said that it was an unexperience mafia team so... Who is the unexperienced?

HF tries to clear himself with every fucking actions, even silly ones and contradicts himself, look he said the judges are stupid, pick bad people and then he said that the judges carefuly picked him twice because he is so town and that I should accept him as town for that when I also got picked twice (3 times now) in this game, if Holyflare is honest in his logic I am the most extreme confirmed town.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 15:07 GMT
#3066
On August 21 2017 23:55 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2017 23:50 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2017 23:42 Conversion wrote:
like if I'm reading your latest posts quote correctly, you think the scum team is Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion

except I want to lynch Jealous now that Rels flipped town and ritoky is talking, plus ritoky's post on why it makes him town doesn't make sense

I still want to lynch Hopeless

why would I want to lynch both my scummates? do you really think I have enough confidence from playing 2 town games to think I can carry my weight as scum?


It says IF the fight vs Jelaous was staged. I was trying to form who would be the mafia group with my 3 suspects to see if it would make the 6 in a shorter number.


OK thank you for clearing that up, so the Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion team only exists if you can figure out if I staged my fight with Jealous

what are your thoughts on Hopeless? I remember you saying you'd filter dive him


I am probably the only person of this game who bothered to filter in detail but alas I have been called things and probably yelled (even if it is just typing) so many times I honestly lost any kind of will to actually care at this moment.

I will get shut down by an angry HF/probably Geript/Polite Ritoki all game and there is a limit.

For what I remember of hopeless he was super nice to me and suddenly turned crazy asking for a gun to shot and hasnt done anything. I remember be asked a dumb question and is when Jelaous made that ridiculous post of "what if vig shot"
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 15:09 GMT
#3068
On August 22 2017 00:07 Holyflare wrote:
How about answering my questions? Because you certainly haven't.


I treat people the way they treat me, I asked you for reads first and you dissapeared saying you wouldnt do it.

Except that I am more polite I think.

Kinda bitchy too I also think.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 15:16 GMT
#3070
On August 22 2017 00:12 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 00:07 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2017 23:55 Conversion wrote:
On August 21 2017 23:50 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2017 23:42 Conversion wrote:
like if I'm reading your latest posts quote correctly, you think the scum team is Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion

except I want to lynch Jealous now that Rels flipped town and ritoky is talking, plus ritoky's post on why it makes him town doesn't make sense

I still want to lynch Hopeless

why would I want to lynch both my scummates? do you really think I have enough confidence from playing 2 town games to think I can carry my weight as scum?


It says IF the fight vs Jelaous was staged. I was trying to form who would be the mafia group with my 3 suspects to see if it would make the 6 in a shorter number.


OK thank you for clearing that up, so the Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion team only exists if you can figure out if I staged my fight with Jealous

what are your thoughts on Hopeless? I remember you saying you'd filter dive him


I am probably the only person of this game who bothered to filter in detail but alas I have been called things and probably yelled (even if it is just typing) so many times I honestly lost any kind of will to actually care at this moment.

I will get shut down by an angry HF/probably Geript/Polite Ritoki all game and there is a limit.

For what I remember of hopeless he was super nice to me and suddenly turned crazy asking for a gun to shot and hasnt done anything. I remember be asked a dumb question and is when Jelaous made that ridiculous post of "what if vig shot"


OK, so we think the same thing about hopeless. Started off well D1 and kind of is just floating around yelling things and not doing much

is that right?


Yes. Have you played with him or he is generally like this?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 15:24 GMT
#3073
On August 22 2017 00:18 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 00:16 CopCake wrote:
On August 22 2017 00:12 Conversion wrote:
On August 22 2017 00:07 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2017 23:55 Conversion wrote:
On August 21 2017 23:50 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2017 23:42 Conversion wrote:
like if I'm reading your latest posts quote correctly, you think the scum team is Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion

except I want to lynch Jealous now that Rels flipped town and ritoky is talking, plus ritoky's post on why it makes him town doesn't make sense

I still want to lynch Hopeless

why would I want to lynch both my scummates? do you really think I have enough confidence from playing 2 town games to think I can carry my weight as scum?


It says IF the fight vs Jelaous was staged. I was trying to form who would be the mafia group with my 3 suspects to see if it would make the 6 in a shorter number.


OK thank you for clearing that up, so the Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion team only exists if you can figure out if I staged my fight with Jealous

what are your thoughts on Hopeless? I remember you saying you'd filter dive him


I am probably the only person of this game who bothered to filter in detail but alas I have been called things and probably yelled (even if it is just typing) so many times I honestly lost any kind of will to actually care at this moment.

I will get shut down by an angry HF/probably Geript/Polite Ritoki all game and there is a limit.

For what I remember of hopeless he was super nice to me and suddenly turned crazy asking for a gun to shot and hasnt done anything. I remember be asked a dumb question and is when Jelaous made that ridiculous post of "what if vig shot"


OK, so we think the same thing about hopeless. Started off well D1 and kind of is just floating around yelling things and not doing much

is that right?


Yes. Have you played with him or he is generally like this?


I have no idea if he is generally like this. I read through his database games, and he didn't seem to be at a cursory glance. (this is like my 5th game of mafia here, 3rd game if we're not counting the games from 2012)


Well he started to fuck up when the vig shot question. The only person who took him serious was Jelaous and I had theory that it could be mvm interaction and Jelaous trying to not make him look bad.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 15:26 GMT
#3074
On August 22 2017 00:22 Holyflare wrote:
I think this is a completely different situation copcake. I am clearly a mafia read of yours but you have no drive to get me lynched whatsoever. Your tactic is to berate anyone that has any kind of logic that I'm town but do absolutely nothing to prove why my behaviour is mafia.

I think your reads don't actually exist. You've repeatedly been asked to provide evidence as to why I'm mafia but have failed on several occasions. Your logic that you used before is a double standard that you didn't apply to eversince.

You have used me being on fecalfeast as evidence to why I am mafia and a bad town leader but not once delved into my motivation or even asked me why I was on him. Nor have you stated that I didn't want to lynch any of them. You're simply not interested in discovering whether I am mafia or not or questioning my thought processes.

You flipped out on me after rels was lynched but rels was a perfectly fine lynch. Nothing he said actually said anything at all and if I had the chance again I'd lynch him all over again.

I am just going to say it, I think you're mafia.


I am just proving you are not 100% cleared with your "actions" like the "green check" or "claiming vest and not dying"

I have you as highly mafia but there is like a 15% chance I am wrong because I consider Ritoki's words of your meta.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 15:41 GMT
#3080
On August 22 2017 00:38 Holyflare wrote:
And like I said. What are your REASONS that I am mafia?? I don't care one bit about you disproving why I'm town but you haven't once stated WHY I am mafia. You just keep saying I am.


Your obsesion for trying to clear yourself, lying for the rayn mod cleared, overall town not winning atm. I had you in a high spot as a scumhunter.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 15:42 GMT
#3081
On August 22 2017 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 00:03 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2017 16:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think it wasn't far fetched at all HF/ritoky/Jealous are mafia. Holyflare has the town credit already on D1. ritoky is away. Damdred scumreads ritoky. Damdred -- whose btw ONLY scumread, i think he actually trusted on, was ritoky -- gets shot. Magically at the same time Holyflare green checks ritoky.

Holyflare read me mafia at the start of the game because i was trying to break the game (aka have judges nominate 2 mafia guys and one town guy). Holyflare doesn't claim the green check UNTIL ritoky is nominated for the lynch. I LITERALLY DID TRY TO PLAN THE SAME KIND OF THING AT THE START OF THE GAME, and he called me mafia for it....

When there is a green check claimed, ritoky stop doing shit. Now i know what you were saying earlier ritoky, but i didn't mean "up until this you have been playing properly as usual". I was saying there was a time, before this, when you seemed to pick up on the game and again, when the claim came, you stopped. That's how i felt.

Holyflare bullies everyone into voting Rels. Even when Rels flips town Holyflare blames everyone who were NOT voting for Rels.... reasoning is "Jealous wouldn't give me the power up D1", when this is the votecount:
On August 16 2017 05:26 rsoultin wrote:
Day 1 Best Artists

Jealous (3): Hopeless1der, Jealous, Tumblewood, Conversion, geript, Rels
Holyflare (5): geript, Holyflare, Damdred, Fecalfeast, Hopeless1der, geript
CopCake (4): CopCake, raynpelikoneet, Tumblewood, raynpelikoneet, ritoky

Not Voting (1): Onegu


In Holyflare is set to receive the judges' powerup. Voting is mandatory for all contestants. You can vote in the voting thread.

On August 16 2017 05:29 Jealous wrote:
##Vote HolyFlare

Jealous votes HF literally seconds before the deadline and IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO HE PUTS HIS VOTE ON SINCE HF WILL ANYWAYS RECEIVE THE POWER UP as he got to 5 first!!!!

I mean like... Everything is so fucking convenient if Holyflare, ritoky, and Jealous are mafia. But:
Then there is the no kill. And i don't think Holyflare no shoots. I mean it is not like it's even a bad strategy because you become "confimed town" and will 100% receive a vig shot, i just don't think he does it, because he can just shoot someone, be almost confirmed town anyways and also most likely receive the vig shot. But i don't think there was anything wrong with my conclusion earlier, except for the conclusion.



On August 21 2017 05:17 Holyflare wrote:
so rayn are you going to explain how you went from rels is definitely mafia to rels posting nothing to rels is town let's lynch jealous or you're going to let that ominously float around unexplained?

I simply thought Rels wasnt making up anything, was being honest, and didn't care about surviving. That's it. Trust me, i wouldn't want anything but to lynch Rels from those two yesterday if i was mafia. I just simply thought he is not mafia.

I think Tumblewood is town. Or thought.. idk i have to read him again today because i thought he was making sense last day on the lynch phase. On contrary what i said before, Cake doesn't really bus. Also they were both on Jealous and i think Jealous is mafia so i don't think they are both mafia. I think Conversion is still town. I think that makes Eversince mafia, she basically has to be mafia since Jealous is mafia too and nothing else makes sense to me. Then one of Cake / Tumblewood.

##vote geript


The "Holyflair" survival for the death of someone else at night doesnt clear him. If I was mafia and HF is town I would have killed "x" person, someone that is not posting a lot, HF mafia decided not to shoot to prove he got a "vest"

Ask yourself this when you get back:

From all the players... Who would have been fooled that HF got a cop? Which mafia would have missed the opportunity to kill someone else? Why HF? Even Geript said that it was an unexperience mafia team so... Who is the unexperienced?

HF tries to clear himself with every fucking actions, even silly ones and contradicts himself, look he said the judges are stupid, pick bad people and then he said that the judges carefuly picked him twice because he is so town and that I should accept him as town for that when I also got picked twice (3 times now) in this game, if Holyflare is honest in his logic I am the most extreme confirmed town.

I dont understand what you are asking.

If holyflare is town, mafia got fooled on what he picked, most likely. In that situation yes, it is likely it is inexperienced mafia team.

I consider everyone inexperienced except for me, geript and ritoky. Hopeless isnt exactly inexperienced but for this particular scenario i dont think he counts.


Who would be the unexperienced group who believed HF taking vest?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 18:38 GMT
#3116
The best thing you can do if you are town is to give me the prize but alas not happening.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 18:40 GMT
#3117
On August 22 2017 03:35 Tumblewood wrote:
ahhhhh why does everyone just care about saving hf
leaving him unprotected is the best play (of course this is from my perspective but i think it is definitely the right move). if he is unprotected and dies, it clears up a major point of uncertainty. plus he is practically mafia mvp as either alignment, so no real loss. or, if he is unprotected and lives, we learn quite a bit.


This, HF dying is the thing that will answer all questions.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 18:41 GMT
#3119
Actually the deaths that would answer questions are:

HF
Jelaous
Rayns
TW
Cake
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 18:43 GMT
#3123
Like I wanna know which is the unexperience team that bought that HF got cop.

I wanna know

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 18:51 GMT
#3131
Honest talk

Reasons to push TW: Omg he just pretented to read filter in 3 minutes

When someone like conversion also skimed not knowing there was a no death at night.

Skiming? Like reading super fast and just glance happens specially when you work.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 18:52 GMT
#3136
On August 22 2017 03:50 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 03:46 geript wrote:
Also, all the if HF dies crap is pretty much posturing. Either they coin flip into us or they're setting up for an outside shot. It's basically a reason to try and add someone to the lynch pool. Like idk what you guys expect.

Oh and the real kicker is that even if I get a save or a vest to prevent a shot, then I'm scum who obviously held a shot.

Paranoia is too real.


Then here you admit the mafia is dumb

Who are the trio of dumb mafia here?

I mean this action should tell a lot, the not night death right?

Who are the most likely who bought that HF got cop?
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