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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 21 2017 19:10 GMT
#3161
On August 21 2017 05:56 geript wrote:
TL:DR edition:

1. The 3 minute filter read. It's pretty bullshit that even skimming TW can go through most of a single filter let alone two. He had an earlier townread on Hopeless, puts hopeless in the likely scum group, yes only finds something (that's already been brought up) to find him as towny.

2. TW is giving "updated" reads without having actually read the thread and trying to sell it like he's caught up. So we're constantly in a state where he's both up to date and his reads are irrelevant (or mostly so).

3. TW has rels as basically town (or by far the least scummy), yet Jealous is only the best lynch "by a medium margin" and TW is "debating" reasons to vote Rels... Especially when Rels is being pushed by 2/3rds of his most likely to be scum and the last 1/3 is going to be voting for him.

Like Fuck that....

1. no, i didn't most of it. that's kind of how skimming works, you don't read most of it. i might have read 15 posts max, but depending on the posts i think that can be enough. (like maybe not for xata but ff's filter in this case had some very townie posts i stumbled upon)
2. i was missing less than 10 pages. please show me where i tried to pass it off as having read more than that. and if you honestly think i would, as scum, consciously try to exist in a limbo between up to date and irrelevant (let alone think that is how i would do it), you are bad
3. jealous had some posts (i think he was frustrated that people were insulting or ignoring him?) that gave me doubts. but i was still confident that by game logic rels was town. so jealous was better by a medium amount, because i wasn't totally sure i was right on him, but it was far from a tossup.

this is the nitpickiest shit
good times for all
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 19:12 GMT
#3162
it is really simple. either you think hf is town and got shot since he is the only eligible player to not die from a shot or you think mafia held their shot. the onus is on you to explain to me why the hell mafia holds a shot.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 21 2017 19:12 GMT
#3163
no one said mafia = inactive

by that logic literally half this game would be scum

I'm saying HF is a polarizing figure that creates and leads discussion, whether you believe it to be wrong or not

the fact that you'd lynch him and you spend half your game yelling at other people on how HF is mafia, and not pushing your cases on me, Jealous, or H1, who are also your top tier scum reads, smells scummy

that's all
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 19:13 GMT
#3164
On August 22 2017 04:10 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 04:08 geript wrote:
On August 22 2017 04:06 CopCake wrote:
@Geript

Who are the three dumb players / bought that HF got cop?m
Who?

Dont avoid this question

Idk, me, ritoky, Rels?


Ritoki bought HF vest thing?

Rels was dead

You considered yourself dumb?

No real answer, I want the truth now.


you said cop in previous post, not vest.

the question you're wanting to ask is "who do you think is gullible enough to fall for hf claiming he picked doctor and protected ritoky instead of vesting himself?"
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 19:13 GMT
#3165
On August 22 2017 04:12 ritoky wrote:
it is really simple. either you think hf is town and got shot since he is the only eligible player to not die from a shot or you think mafia held their shot. the onus is on you to explain to me why the hell mafia holds a shot.

To clear himself when he was getting heated, HF was a town read until later. He got heated.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 19:14 GMT
#3166
On August 22 2017 04:13 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 04:10 CopCake wrote:
On August 22 2017 04:08 geript wrote:
On August 22 2017 04:06 CopCake wrote:
@Geript

Who are the three dumb players / bought that HF got cop?m
Who?

Dont avoid this question

Idk, me, ritoky, Rels?


Ritoki bought HF vest thing?

Rels was dead

You considered yourself dumb?

No real answer, I want the truth now.


you said cop in previous post, not vest.

the question you're wanting to ask is "who do you think is gullible enough to fall for hf claiming he picked doctor and protected ritoky instead of vesting himself?"


HF claimed that he got cop lol
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 21 2017 19:17 GMT
#3167
On August 22 2017 04:10 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 04:08 geript wrote:
On August 22 2017 04:06 CopCake wrote:
@Geript

Who are the three dumb players / bought that HF got cop?m
Who?

Dont avoid this question

Idk, me, ritoky, Rels?


Ritoki bought HF vest thing?

Rels was dead

You considered yourself dumb?

No real answer, I want the truth now.

Fuck you. You've done nothing but spout the literally dumbest most illogical shit all game long. I tried to be nice and answer you despite the jibe but at this point fuck off. I don't know and I don't care. You know why? Because most players who have any fucking experience with him know he's taking Cop. Hell, any half decent player is going to consider that he's likely to take the check. But that's probably a hard concept for you to understand.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 21 2017 19:18 GMT
#3168
On August 22 2017 04:10 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2017 05:56 geript wrote:
TL:DR edition:

1. The 3 minute filter read. It's pretty bullshit that even skimming TW can go through most of a single filter let alone two. He had an earlier townread on Hopeless, puts hopeless in the likely scum group, yes only finds something (that's already been brought up) to find him as towny.

2. TW is giving "updated" reads without having actually read the thread and trying to sell it like he's caught up. So we're constantly in a state where he's both up to date and his reads are irrelevant (or mostly so).

3. TW has rels as basically town (or by far the least scummy), yet Jealous is only the best lynch "by a medium margin" and TW is "debating" reasons to vote Rels... Especially when Rels is being pushed by 2/3rds of his most likely to be scum and the last 1/3 is going to be voting for him.

Like Fuck that....

1. no, i didn't most of it. that's kind of how skimming works, you don't read most of it. i might have read 15 posts max, but depending on the posts i think that can be enough. (like maybe not for xata but ff's filter in this case had some very townie posts i stumbled upon)
2. i was missing less than 10 pages. please show me where i tried to pass it off as having read more than that. and if you honestly think i would, as scum, consciously try to exist in a limbo between up to date and irrelevant (let alone think that is how i would do it), you are bad
3. jealous had some posts (i think he was frustrated that people were insulting or ignoring him?) that gave me doubts. but i was still confident that by game logic rels was town. so jealous was better by a medium amount, because i wasn't totally sure i was right on him, but it was far from a tossup.

this is the nitpickiest shit

"tw said he read a filter faster than someone could read a filter"
"tw posted updated reads despite missing some pages" + Show Spoiler +
which i still haven't read, and yet i don't feel like i'm missing anything

"tw made an offhand comment saying he thought jealous was better by a medium amount, but i think he thought jealous was better by a large amount"

if this constitutes a strong scumread for you i am surprised you have any townreads at all
good times for all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 21 2017 19:19 GMT
#3169
On August 22 2017 04:14 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 04:13 ritoky wrote:
On August 22 2017 04:10 CopCake wrote:
On August 22 2017 04:08 geript wrote:
On August 22 2017 04:06 CopCake wrote:
@Geript

Who are the three dumb players / bought that HF got cop?m
Who?

Dont avoid this question

Idk, me, ritoky, Rels?


Ritoki bought HF vest thing?

Rels was dead

You considered yourself dumb?

No real answer, I want the truth now.


you said cop in previous post, not vest.

the question you're wanting to ask is "who do you think is gullible enough to fall for hf claiming he picked doctor and protected ritoky instead of vesting himself?"


HF claimed that he got cop lol


I think you just confirmed yourself mafia hahahaha
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-21 19:22:23
August 21 2017 19:19 GMT
#3170
Day 2 Best Artists


geript (4): geript, Jealous, Raynpelikoneet, Hopeless1der
CopCake (1): Copcake
Conversion (3): Holyflare, Conversion, Tumblewood

Not Voting (2): ritoky, Disformation


In geript is set to receive the judges' powerup. Voting is mandatory for all contestants. You can vote in the voting thread.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 21 2017 19:23 GMT
#3171
On August 22 2017 04:10 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2017 05:56 geript wrote:
TL:DR edition:

1. The 3 minute filter read. It's pretty bullshit that even skimming TW can go through most of a single filter let alone two. He had an earlier townread on Hopeless, puts hopeless in the likely scum group, yes only finds something (that's already been brought up) to find him as towny.

2. TW is giving "updated" reads without having actually read the thread and trying to sell it like he's caught up. So we're constantly in a state where he's both up to date and his reads are irrelevant (or mostly so).

3. TW has rels as basically town (or by far the least scummy), yet Jealous is only the best lynch "by a medium margin" and TW is "debating" reasons to vote Rels... Especially when Rels is being pushed by 2/3rds of his most likely to be scum and the last 1/3 is going to be voting for him.

Like Fuck that....

1. no, i didn't most of it. that's kind of how skimming works, you don't read most of it. i might have read 15 posts max, but depending on the posts i think that can be enough. (like maybe not for xata but ff's filter in this case had some very townie posts i stumbled upon)
2. i was missing less than 10 pages. please show me where i tried to pass it off as having read more than that. and if you honestly think i would, as scum, consciously try to exist in a limbo between up to date and irrelevant (let alone think that is how i would do it), you are bad
3. jealous had some posts (i think he was frustrated that people were insulting or ignoring him?) that gave me doubts. but i was still confident that by game logic rels was town. so jealous was better by a medium amount, because i wasn't totally sure i was right on him, but it was far from a tossup.

this is the nitpickiest shit

1. Skimming a 9 page filter is not reading 15 posts.
2. Yet again wrong. It was 14 pages at least
3. Confident X person is Town and Y person is scum is a medium amount?


ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 19:23 GMT
#3172
On August 22 2017 04:14 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 04:13 ritoky wrote:
On August 22 2017 04:10 CopCake wrote:
On August 22 2017 04:08 geript wrote:
On August 22 2017 04:06 CopCake wrote:
@Geript

Who are the three dumb players / bought that HF got cop?m
Who?

Dont avoid this question

Idk, me, ritoky, Rels?


Ritoki bought HF vest thing?

Rels was dead

You considered yourself dumb?

No real answer, I want the truth now.


you said cop in previous post, not vest.

the question you're wanting to ask is "who do you think is gullible enough to fall for hf claiming he picked doctor and protected ritoky instead of vesting himself?"


HF claimed that he got cop lol


? Your timeline is mixed up. HF claimed he was going to vest N1 and took cop and green checked me. HF claimed he was going to doc protect me N2 and took vest and didn't die presumably......rels wasn't dead when he claimed the green, and I don't know what your point is really, that we're being bamboozled?

Your world is just too unlikely for me to believe. The judges had to incorrectly TR him, then he had to win PR twice, fake claim a green check, then hold a shot for no reason. To get more TR is not a reason, when a shot on me is freelo; shoot your green check and say "damn I tried to trick them by claiming doc and vesting, my bad ritoky." There's just too many mental hurdles that I can't get there.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 19:27 GMT
#3173
hf you realize you're voting w/ tumblewood right? lol
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10339 Posts
August 21 2017 19:27 GMT
#3174
Eclipse was fucking dope. Shadows went crazy. Saw totality, everything went dark. I'll share some pics when I get back tonight.

As far as current affairs:

1. An HF death would bring peace of mind and would remove any doubt behind his reads, giving us a clear way forward. However, losing a town!HF for that I'd not worth it to me who already committed to TRing him.

2. However, I don't trust Conversion anyway, nor do I think his plan is good even if he is trusted because the wifom is too strong and there is no guarantee that scum will do anything near relevant to his actions. I think it's silly to state exactly what you are going to do and then roll the dice on whether scum believes you will do it or not. As such I'd rather vote for people who I trust more than what any plan they propose is.

3. Geript's post and my PoV it would certainly be interesting to look at both lynch pools as full town and then add HF and geript to that list (again, my PoV), and consider everyone else scum so that's what I'm going to do today.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 21 2017 19:29 GMT
#3175
am i playing a different game than most people? WHY WOULD MAFIA NOT SHOOT GHDFJGBJDGNDSJKFON
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 21 2017 19:29 GMT
#3176
On August 22 2017 04:19 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 04:14 CopCake wrote:
On August 22 2017 04:13 ritoky wrote:
On August 22 2017 04:10 CopCake wrote:
On August 22 2017 04:08 geript wrote:
On August 22 2017 04:06 CopCake wrote:
@Geript

Who are the three dumb players / bought that HF got cop?m
Who?

Dont avoid this question

Idk, me, ritoky, Rels?


Ritoki bought HF vest thing?

Rels was dead

You considered yourself dumb?

No real answer, I want the truth now.


you said cop in previous post, not vest.

the question you're wanting to ask is "who do you think is gullible enough to fall for hf claiming he picked doctor and protected ritoky instead of vesting himself?"


HF claimed that he got cop lol


I think you just confirmed yourself mafia hahahaha



How? You said you were gwtting cop this night.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 21 2017 19:29 GMT
#3177
On August 22 2017 04:23 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 04:10 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 21 2017 05:56 geript wrote:
TL:DR edition:

1. The 3 minute filter read. It's pretty bullshit that even skimming TW can go through most of a single filter let alone two. He had an earlier townread on Hopeless, puts hopeless in the likely scum group, yes only finds something (that's already been brought up) to find him as towny.

2. TW is giving "updated" reads without having actually read the thread and trying to sell it like he's caught up. So we're constantly in a state where he's both up to date and his reads are irrelevant (or mostly so).

3. TW has rels as basically town (or by far the least scummy), yet Jealous is only the best lynch "by a medium margin" and TW is "debating" reasons to vote Rels... Especially when Rels is being pushed by 2/3rds of his most likely to be scum and the last 1/3 is going to be voting for him.

Like Fuck that....

1. no, i didn't most of it. that's kind of how skimming works, you don't read most of it. i might have read 15 posts max, but depending on the posts i think that can be enough. (like maybe not for xata but ff's filter in this case had some very townie posts i stumbled upon)
2. i was missing less than 10 pages. please show me where i tried to pass it off as having read more than that. and if you honestly think i would, as scum, consciously try to exist in a limbo between up to date and irrelevant (let alone think that is how i would do it), you are bad
3. jealous had some posts (i think he was frustrated that people were insulting or ignoring him?) that gave me doubts. but i was still confident that by game logic rels was town. so jealous was better by a medium amount, because i wasn't totally sure i was right on him, but it was far from a tossup.

this is the nitpickiest shit

1. Skimming a 9 page filter is not reading 15 posts.
2. Yet again wrong. It was 14 pages at least
3. Confident X person is Town and Y person is scum is a medium amount?



1. well that's what i meant by it
2. are you trying to tell me i'm wrong about what i had read?
3. and you misinterpreted what i literally just said explicitly, which is "i'm having doubts on Y person, but X person must be town by game logic" is a medium amount.
good times for all
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 21 2017 19:30 GMT
#3178
On August 22 2017 04:29 ritoky wrote:
am i playing a different game than most people? WHY WOULD MAFIA NOT SHOOT GHDFJGBJDGNDSJKFON


idk dude

just vote for me and guarantee HF lives or vote for geript and watch HF most likely die

shrug

I don't think mafia is going to shoot geript if he lived through two nights. they clearly think he's not a threat, especially D1 when he was way more threatening than damdred
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 21 2017 19:31 GMT
#3179
On August 22 2017 04:29 ritoky wrote:
am i playing a different game than most people? WHY WOULD MAFIA NOT SHOOT GHDFJGBJDGNDSJKFON

i dunno. i don't know why mafia shot an hf claiming vest either.
good times for all
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 21 2017 19:31 GMT
#3180
On August 22 2017 04:27 Jealous wrote:
Eclipse was fucking dope. Shadows went crazy. Saw totality, everything went dark. I'll share some pics when I get back tonight.

As far as current affairs:

1. An HF death would bring peace of mind and would remove any doubt behind his reads, giving us a clear way forward. However, losing a town!HF for that I'd not worth it to me who already committed to TRing him.

2. However, I don't trust Conversion anyway, nor do I think his plan is good even if he is trusted because the wifom is too strong and there is no guarantee that scum will do anything near relevant to his actions. I think it's silly to state exactly what you are going to do and then roll the dice on whether scum believes you will do it or not. As such I'd rather vote for people who I trust more than what any plan they propose is.

3. Geript's post and my PoV it would certainly be interesting to look at both lynch pools as full town and then add HF and geript to that list (again, my PoV), and consider everyone else scum so that's what I'm going to do today.


scum doesn't have to believe me or not. I'm doctoring HF so unless they have a roleblock, HF lives with my plan. I'm too bad at mafia to mindgame, so I'm spilling out what I'm going to do

if he's your strongest townread, vote me. if geript is your strongest townread, vote him
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