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On August 21 2017 11:47 ritoky wrote:
Conv, I never got that lynch pool list from you.
oh right
probably hopeless/tw and one of rayn vs geript
hopeless has like deteriorated in his play. I'm about to sleep so I'm not filter diving, but I can't really remember anything good from him aside from exclaiming that TW needs to die for like 2 days now and giving lists and fading into obscurity
TW because he does these like weak question pushes and doesn't really get anywhere. he's really into giving lists (I don't like lists maybe? who knows). also whenever I thought he was mafia he ended up being town, and now he's like trying extra hard so that's giving me bad feelz (probably not a v. good read)
I feel like I'm missing something between rayn or geript, so this is all feels between them as my last lynch candidate
I don't like Jealous, but I'm leaving him out of my lynch pool b/c of what you or geript stated (voting for HF doesn't make sense if he is scum)
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On August 21 2017 21:23 disformation wrote:
unless im blind the votes went:
3-4-2
2-5-2
2-4-3
2-5-2
2-5-3
2-5-4
3-5-4
and then jealous made it:
2-6-4
not seeing a 4-4-4 here
yeah. I think the only 4-4-4 was the lynch pool rayn vs ff vs hopeless
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which makes me wonder, simple mistake on ritoky's end? I actually can't recall HF being threatened by Jealous winning power on D1 per disinfo's vote post
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On August 21 2017 22:38 Holyflare wrote:
It was never threatened by jealous, just copcake. You should read around the deadline again for context on sentiment.
right, but ritoky's post on why Jealous is town is because he had a choice at 4-4-4 last minute to switch to Cop or someone else for the power, but the only way he could have had Cop win would be to convince someone to switch off you, or get someone voted on himself onto cop
On August 21 2017 07:23 ritoky wrote:
the vote is 4-4-4 tied, and with 2 minutes left before it is decided he unvotes himself and votes hf (who is now presumably town because mafia holding their shot doesn't make tons of sense) to prevent shenanigans from giving the power to any1 else.
a mafia jealous has the option to make the exact same play but give the PR to copcake instead of HF or try and push a little harder to get it himself. instead he gives it to HF which makes no sense for him as mafia imo unless he is with HF. HF green checking me in the pool yesterday instead of Jealous means they can't be partners, plus HF is basically town now....add it all together and you get jealous is pretty much town.
but disinfo said there was a never 4-4-4, Jealous never had a chance to get the PR himself, and copcake couldn't have won even with Jealous' vote (b/c tiebreaker means first one to n votes wins, right?) so this town read doesn't make sense then
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On August 21 2017 23:21 CopCake wrote:
Ah I dont trust conversion or geript
It's okay I don't trust you or geript either so we're in the same boat. too bad someone has to win, and I'm leaning away from you right now
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like if I'm reading your latest posts quote correctly, you think the scum team is Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion
except I want to lynch Jealous now that Rels flipped town and ritoky is talking, plus ritoky's post on why it makes him town doesn't make sense
I still want to lynch Hopeless
why would I want to lynch both my scummates? do you really think I have enough confidence from playing 2 town games to think I can carry my weight as scum?
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On August 21 2017 23:50 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2017 23:42 Conversion wrote:
like if I'm reading your latest posts quote correctly, you think the scum team is Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion
except I want to lynch Jealous now that Rels flipped town and ritoky is talking, plus ritoky's post on why it makes him town doesn't make sense
I still want to lynch Hopeless
why would I want to lynch both my scummates? do you really think I have enough confidence from playing 2 town games to think I can carry my weight as scum? It says IF the fight vs Jelaous was staged. I was trying to form who would be the mafia group with my 3 suspects to see if it would make the 6 in a shorter number.
OK thank you for clearing that up, so the Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion team only exists if you can figure out if I staged my fight with Jealous
what are your thoughts on Hopeless? I remember you saying you'd filter dive him
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On August 22 2017 00:07 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2017 23:55 Conversion wrote:On August 21 2017 23:50 CopCake wrote:On August 21 2017 23:42 Conversion wrote:
like if I'm reading your latest posts quote correctly, you think the scum team is Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion
except I want to lynch Jealous now that Rels flipped town and ritoky is talking, plus ritoky's post on why it makes him town doesn't make sense
I still want to lynch Hopeless
why would I want to lynch both my scummates? do you really think I have enough confidence from playing 2 town games to think I can carry my weight as scum? It says IF the fight vs Jelaous was staged. I was trying to form who would be the mafia group with my 3 suspects to see if it would make the 6 in a shorter number. OK thank you for clearing that up, so the Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion team only exists if you can figure out if I staged my fight with Jealous what are your thoughts on Hopeless? I remember you saying you'd filter dive him I am probably the only person of this game who bothered to filter in detail but alas I have been called things and probably yelled (even if it is just typing) so many times I honestly lost any kind of will to actually care at this moment. I will get shut down by an angry HF/probably Geript/Polite Ritoki all game and there is a limit. For what I remember of hopeless he was super nice to me and suddenly turned crazy asking for a gun to shot and hasnt done anything. I remember be asked a dumb question and is when Jelaous made that ridiculous post of "what if vig shot"
OK, so we think the same thing about hopeless. Started off well D1 and kind of is just floating around yelling things and not doing much
is that right?
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On August 22 2017 00:16 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2017 00:12 Conversion wrote:On August 22 2017 00:07 CopCake wrote:On August 21 2017 23:55 Conversion wrote:On August 21 2017 23:50 CopCake wrote:On August 21 2017 23:42 Conversion wrote:
like if I'm reading your latest posts quote correctly, you think the scum team is Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion
except I want to lynch Jealous now that Rels flipped town and ritoky is talking, plus ritoky's post on why it makes him town doesn't make sense
I still want to lynch Hopeless
why would I want to lynch both my scummates? do you really think I have enough confidence from playing 2 town games to think I can carry my weight as scum? It says IF the fight vs Jelaous was staged. I was trying to form who would be the mafia group with my 3 suspects to see if it would make the 6 in a shorter number. OK thank you for clearing that up, so the Jealous/Hopeless/Conversion team only exists if you can figure out if I staged my fight with Jealous what are your thoughts on Hopeless? I remember you saying you'd filter dive him I am probably the only person of this game who bothered to filter in detail but alas I have been called things and probably yelled (even if it is just typing) so many times I honestly lost any kind of will to actually care at this moment. I will get shut down by an angry HF/probably Geript/Polite Ritoki all game and there is a limit. For what I remember of hopeless he was super nice to me and suddenly turned crazy asking for a gun to shot and hasnt done anything. I remember be asked a dumb question and is when Jelaous made that ridiculous post of "what if vig shot" OK, so we think the same thing about hopeless. Started off well D1 and kind of is just floating around yelling things and not doing much is that right? Yes. Have you played with him or he is generally like this?
I have no idea if he is generally like this. I read through his database games, and he didn't seem to be at a cursory glance. (this is like my 5th game of mafia here, 3rd game if we're not counting the games from 2012)
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if I win I'm picking doctor and saving HF
if HF dies you can vig gun me or judges can put me up on lynch pile and I get auto lynched
if I get NK'd, I'll flip town and you'll get more info
@geript what are you going to do if you win?
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On August 22 2017 03:06 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2017 12:09 Conversion wrote:On August 21 2017 11:47 ritoky wrote:
Conv, I never got that lynch pool list from you. oh right probably hopeless/tw and one of rayn vs geript hopeless has like deteriorated in his play. I'm about to sleep so I'm not filter diving, but I can't really remember anything good from him aside from exclaiming that TW needs to die for like 2 days now and giving lists and fading into obscurity TW because he does these like weak question pushes and doesn't really get anywhere. he's really into giving lists (I don't like lists maybe? who knows). also whenever I thought he was mafia he ended up being town, and now he's like trying extra hard so that's giving me bad feelz (probably not a v. good read) I feel like I'm missing something between rayn or geript, so this is all feels between them as my last lynch candidate I don't like Jealous, but I'm leaving him out of my lynch pool b/c of what you or geript stated (voting for HF doesn't make sense if he is scum) what makes you think the 1gu/ever/disf slot is town? also can i just note how annoying it is to have to click 3 filter (1 of them is basically empty i know) to try and get a read on 1 slot.
no idea what 1gu was he just ragequit
ever kind of tried to do things but got nothing done. was a null read for me, can't even remember ever's posts tbh
waiting for disinfo to catch up. i like him so far because he gave a counterpoint to what you said about townreading jealous
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like honestly I feel like the general sentiment of this thread is that I'm scum or null.
Jealous thinks I'm scum, Cop thinks I'm scum, no idea what geript/ritoky/1gu's slot thinks.
tw thinks I'm town
?? so if geript wins, we get a coinflip and HF will die. which I guess will "clear" things up, but no one else is really doing anything and I've checked out of this game for like 24 hours at one point. I guess if HF doesn't die, that's weird but meh getting too complicated
the only reason I feel weird about geript is the seemingly random Damdred N1 kill, while geript has some really good posts, I still feel weird about him. and for the last time IT'S A FEELING NOT WHAT YOU'RE POSTING so don't make me explain what posts I don't like from you
idk man game's weird
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On August 22 2017 03:26 Holyflare wrote:
^ that's my feeling don't steal it conversion
I questioned the damdred NK over geript, I just never said it in the thread. I think I said like why NK damdred or something that's about it
(if that's what you're referring tO)
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I mean my death would mean that Jealous actually has to do something besides sitting on his one read on me
idk why everyone is ignoring Hopeless, but he still hasn't answered mine and some other people's questions on his list (and him putting me on a kill list and randomly after saying I'm unconfirmed town lean)
I don't care if you all think HF dying is the best option here, I disagree with that and I transparently put out what I was going to do if I won the power
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On August 22 2017 03:52 ritoky wrote:
what exactly does hf dying accomplish? i go from confirmed to confirmed, hf flips town which is already basically true, we lose massive activity, and we gain??????????? peace of mind?????????
scum gets to coast me into LYLO in which I lose anyways like my newbie game
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I think you all should vote for me so I can doctor HF instead of leaving it to coinflip (geript) or someone who thinks HF dying is good for town (Copcake)
vote conversion for solar eclipse president
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On August 22 2017 03:59 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2017 03:55 Conversion wrote:
I think you all should vote for me so I can doctor HF instead of leaving it to coinflip (geript) or someone who thinks HF dying is good for town (Copcake)
vote conversion for solar eclipse president Saving HF will do nothing if he is mafia -____- like seriously wtf? - HF calls the judges dumb - Says is not his fault the judges pick horrible for lynch - I proved that is a lie, I asked for Jelaous lynch and the judges gave it to me, I asked judges to send a signal if my theory mafia is bad and they didnt put hf as top 3, the game is to work witj the judges even if they dont post here. - HF says he is town cleared because the judges picked him twice, I got picked 3 times and by his logicnI should be super town but I am not  I am mafia to him
okay so what is HF dying going to do? there seems to be a big divide between who want HF to die and who don't want HF to die
if by logic you're saying everyone who wants HF to die is town, then you're by contrast insinuating (since you don't seem to be saying otherwise) that everyone who wants HF to live is scummates with him
that doesn't make sense because why would I openly fuck over HF's chance of winning this game as scum by declaring that I'm going to save him? in fact, me winning isn't even a good idea if I was mafia because I am relatively a null/slight scum read to most people here either by POE or me raging at people, so why would I shove myself into a place where I'll get scrutinized (winning the contest)
I think HF is town because he's done far more than anyone here including geript. he's made the most discussion points, and he's part of the reason why you have twice the content you posture that you have in the past day (literally half of your later filter is just yelling at HF saying he's mafia)
so why would town want a person who leads and CREATES discussion just by living dead?
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no one said mafia = inactive
by that logic literally half this game would be scum
I'm saying HF is a polarizing figure that creates and leads discussion, whether you believe it to be wrong or not
the fact that you'd lynch him and you spend half your game yelling at other people on how HF is mafia, and not pushing your cases on me, Jealous, or H1, who are also your top tier scum reads, smells scummy
that's all
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On August 22 2017 04:29 ritoky wrote:
am i playing a different game than most people? WHY WOULD MAFIA NOT SHOOT GHDFJGBJDGNDSJKFON
idk dude
just vote for me and guarantee HF lives or vote for geript and watch HF most likely die
shrug
I don't think mafia is going to shoot geript if he lived through two nights. they clearly think he's not a threat, especially D1 when he was way more threatening than damdred
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On August 22 2017 04:27 Jealous wrote:
Eclipse was fucking dope. Shadows went crazy. Saw totality, everything went dark. I'll share some pics when I get back tonight.
As far as current affairs:
1. An HF death would bring peace of mind and would remove any doubt behind his reads, giving us a clear way forward. However, losing a town!HF for that I'd not worth it to me who already committed to TRing him.
2. However, I don't trust Conversion anyway, nor do I think his plan is good even if he is trusted because the wifom is too strong and there is no guarantee that scum will do anything near relevant to his actions. I think it's silly to state exactly what you are going to do and then roll the dice on whether scum believes you will do it or not. As such I'd rather vote for people who I trust more than what any plan they propose is.
3. Geript's post and my PoV it would certainly be interesting to look at both lynch pools as full town and then add HF and geript to that list (again, my PoV), and consider everyone else scum so that's what I'm going to do today.
scum doesn't have to believe me or not. I'm doctoring HF so unless they have a roleblock, HF lives with my plan. I'm too bad at mafia to mindgame, so I'm spilling out what I'm going to do
if he's your strongest townread, vote me. if geript is your strongest townread, vote him
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