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On July 27 2017 17:44 Rels wrote: Koshi is so townie. He said he was gonna be low post then he was low post. INCREDIBLE CASE Lul :D | ||
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On July 27 2017 22:05 Rels wrote: plz let it be - rather than +. This. The deadline of the previous game was really great for me. The difference between getting 1-2 hours extra sleep before work the next day is huge for EU ppl. | ||
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 <3 that youre playing rsoul. I hope we roll same alignment this game | ||
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On July 29 2017 01:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Tha game will start on Saturday, Jul 29 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (which is also the deadline). Signups remain open for another Our prayers have been heard :D It's going to be weird playing a mafia game without you hounding me from day 1 Rayn :p | ||
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On July 29 2017 11:41 darthfoley wrote: Oh. For some reason I didn't read OP and thought it was a 9p game. /in!!! DF!!! You better not roll mafia on me boy :p | ||
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On July 28 2017 23:30 emperorchampion wrote:  That's not how you write /in :p | ||
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Im gonna try my luck ##NEXT | ||
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On July 30 2017 17:46 rsoultin wrote: Yup ^^ finishing my studies here then staying for a certain protoss  Next I just have to find a job that's meaningful without going back into security lol >< Wish me luck? (Currently doing boring data entry/IT/customer service for a non-profit international education organization)Good luck of course!! Although I never been to the netherlands Ive only heard good things about it. Hope you enjoy your stay and find something that works for you | ||
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On July 30 2017 18:03 rsoultin wrote: Thanks a bunch! Maybe you can come visit sometime; it's gorgeous this time of year ^^ Bueno, so what you think of Damdred's rels read and rels' read on tictock then? Damdred has a read on rels??? dont see it. Also, im just happy to see rels active d1, dont think it means much. His description of his role pm mirrors mine, so for now I dont think he knows his own alignment :p | ||
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Im curious, what did you read when you thought that damdred had a read on rels? | ||
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I totally missed that. Smells like a lot of assumptions. | ||
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If my alignment is mafia, and it becomes known to me later, I couldve been trying to lynch my teammates without knowing... | ||
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Please donate by typing ##donate food or ##donate clothes | ||
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On July 30 2017 21:22 rsoultin wrote: It not making sense is why I kind of doubt it ruxxy lol >< Also, pictures or it's the illumernati! Im pretty sure rels got the same role PM as me. Dont think that makes him town or anyone else with a similar PM town for that matter. | ||
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I think we should vote for damdred. | ||
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##vote no-lynch | ||
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On July 30 2017 22:08 beentheredonethat wrote: A nolynch favors scum as it is absolutely non-committal and is the cheapest thing to do for scum. But I don't know my alignment so actually it's potentially okay? Well I won't tell you guys :> Im not going to lynch people when we dont know our alignment. Reading any alignment out of people is just going to be false positives. | ||
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On July 30 2017 22:26 beentheredonethat wrote: How am I supposed to find out? ##donate everything I have including myself to ruXxar this is like the most extreme I can do I guess, let's see what happens Thank you friend. In return I give you a an old heirloom said to carry magic power. Use it when you find yourself in trouble. (no manual included) | ||
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On July 30 2017 22:33 Damdred wrote: I don't understand how you can play a game by btdt without knowing alignments? I dont understand what you are saying here. Please rephrase. | ||
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On July 30 2017 22:27 beentheredonethat wrote: That's a good point actually but the most boring approach that is possible. If you think that through, you end up with "let's not play until we all have our alignments" which is boring. Which is why im trying to provide for my children. | ||
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On July 30 2017 22:56 Damdred wrote: Since most of us if not all of us do not know alignments, there is 0 way we can play the game until we do. Unless we just rng the lynch onto btdt Which is a bad idea. There are more town than mafia. Chances are we'll be mislynching town. | ||
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On July 30 2017 23:48 Superbia wrote: I'm starting a faction. Who wants to join? Can you get me into arstotzka? | ||
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Prove it. | ||
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I want to see you pass the application. | ||
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On July 31 2017 00:35 Tumblewood wrote: ##donate clothes to ruxxar because i wanna see what happens *As you give me the clothes I hand over an old dusty book. Народные Русские Сказки it says on the cover. As you flip through the pages you see decorated pictures with fading color. As you get towards the middle you notice something wedged inbetween the pages. It's a single frame from a photographic film. You take it out and hold it towards the cloudy sky. In it you see a 20 year younger version of me standing next to the current regent of the CCCP. I look over and barely crack a smile, eyes glazing over as if lost in recollection of days past. "Ah...old friend" I say as I turn around and leave.* | ||
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On July 31 2017 00:48 CopCake wrote: Ruxxxar is acting mafiosi and is saying nothing with his posts, he has changed to "damdred looks mafia you are right rsoultin" to "lets not lynch" and started a conversation that has nothing to do in the game to win your good side. Even before this his first post in the game as scum as hell. Dont make me type super long posts like this unless is necessary pls. I could mafia and dont know it myself, so you could be right. Right now this is just my normal meta. It takes a while to acclimatize to it, it looks very scummy to almost everybody. | ||
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On July 31 2017 03:29 rsoultin wrote: Nope, I'm saying that if mafia already know their alignment, then they could be expected to be posting with more direction than those in the thread who don't have a damn clue. Pretty simple reasoning caaaake So it's in your best interest to not convince me that mafia already knows their alignment, because you seem the most suspicious to me for 1) having a direction and 2) pushing based on weaksauce.@Tictock - could be misremembering. I'll bother later once I figure out what, if anything, is going on here @.@ I like this argument. Also, congratulations on your new appointment. I will submit my application with 100% unfaked non bootlegged genuine passport soon. Glory to arstotzka!! | ||
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On July 31 2017 03:39 Superbia wrote: Comrades, My name is Padimir Vlutin, leader of the All-Arstotzkian People's Front. We, the All-Arstotzkian People's Front, are currently looking for YOU to join us. A bright future for Arstotzka is a bright future for you! Type ##Join: The All-Arstotzkian People's Front to become the future of Arstotzka! Glory to Arstotzka. ![[image loading]](https://res.cloudinary.com/lmn/image/upload/c_limit,h_360,w_640/e_sharpen:100/f_auto,fl_lossy,q_auto/v1/gameskinnyop/a/f/d/orig_afd543e46c74cb34c753e5f23083c39d.jpg) Show approved passport or be banished for taking arstotzka name in vain | ||
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On July 31 2017 03:33 Holyflare wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PnhmuVg.png) Reasons for denial:
+ Show Spoiler [proof] + On July 30 2017 17:11 ruXxar wrote: Oh fuck it, my passport is fake, but made by best russian bootleggers. Im gonna try my luck ##NEXT On July 30 2017 17:13 ruXxar wrote: Of course, here's 50$ to ensure everything goes smoothly ENTRY DENIED + Show Spoiler + Please make sure all papers are presented with a valid reason to enter and have not expired. If papers are expired, please wait for the relevant authorities to issue you with new papers. Fake passports are punishable by firing squad. When appointed. Bribing of government officials is STRICTLY prohibited. All are equal in Arstotzka. Glory to Arstotzka. This is an outrage. I have been a loyal servant to arstotzka for over 50 years. I just borrowed my friends passport while mine is being renewed. I will be back with my own passport tomorrow. | ||
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On July 31 2017 04:16 rsoultin wrote: I accept bribes ^^ They may or may not be taken into consideration when permitting entry. Children and souls are most valuable, children's souls the most valuable of all. Children you say.... this is an interesting development. | ||
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I, Yuri "ruxxar" vladivostok, have come before you the passport official to seek entry into the glorious motherland. I have brought my freshly printed passport, everything is in order! ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/a/Oq5Wr) I have also brought my 13th son of age 7. He has many talents and would be honored to serve the great Arstotzka, if it should please you. My purpose for visit is to celebrate the great leaders birthday and pay my respects. Duration of visit is 2 weeks. | ||
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Smells fresh. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/I6kWcqC.jpg) | ||
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On July 31 2017 04:28 beentheredonethat wrote: Oh ![[image loading]](http://www.ss13.eu/tgdb/passport/saves/passport_65894.png) You cannot self approve passport. Only passport official can give official stamp. | ||
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On July 31 2017 05:06 CopCake wrote: I am not trying to change your mind, I am trying to understand your point of view because it doesn't make sense. I already explained I am playing this as a vanilla town and that I assume there is a mafia quick topic because mafia ALWAYS get to chat with their team unless lone wolf. Those two things are easy to assume and it is how i think we should be playing this. You are asking me to back myself with reasons when your reasons (again in my point of view) are poor and beentheredonethat are even worse since they are yours, not his. And I've nver played a game where I didnt know my alignment from the start. Assuming anything is normal about this game is a dangerous trap. The only thing we can be sure about is what the host has told us. | ||
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On July 31 2017 05:32 CopCake wrote: Newspaper boy lol | ||
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This is a most enjoyus day of all, that I have waited for all my life. Glory to Arstotzka. | ||
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On July 31 2017 06:24 Conversion wrote: wtf is happening here sorry didn't even realize game started until just now What do you think is happening? | ||
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On July 31 2017 06:35 darthfoley wrote: You seem very concerned with this question. Why shouldnt he be? Its a perfectly valid concern. | ||
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Nowhere is safe. | ||
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On July 31 2017 06:46 darthfoley wrote: Not really. It'll be resolved when it's resolved. I trust our Great Leaders of Arstotzka and I will not question them. Its a pretty important part of the game that has a big impact on how you play. It's also very unusual, so it being a topic of interest shouldn't be a surprise. What is interesting is whether or not mafia got to know their alignment from the start. People not knowing their alignment means that you cannot evaluate their play as mafia no matter how scummy they look. | ||
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On July 31 2017 06:50 Conversion wrote: Sir ruXxar, could you enlighten this new fellow as to why you are at a no-lynch right now? The information will help me greatly. I have not sniffed out the traitors yet. I'm keeping my eyes and ears open. | ||
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On July 31 2017 06:57 darthfoley wrote: I just don't see the point of the question. We were not given a role at the start of the game. Why would anyone in the minority who may have gotten a defined role would ever admit to it and single themselves out. Seems like a "I'm helping the town" question that's relatively useless especially at this point in the game The question may be pointless in itself, but the concern is valid. Do you think it's scummy? | ||
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On July 31 2017 07:04 darthfoley wrote: Yea I think it's scummy. One for context, and two because I want btdt to call me names and rage I've decided to not judge anyone for their play within the first 24h. In that context, I don't really care what anyone has said. | ||
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On July 31 2017 07:27 CopCake wrote: No, no, no. Look, I am looking at this game with the perspective that mafia knew who they were since the start. If that perspective is the right one, then Ruxxar is mafia. Why are you so convinced of this. That is quite scummy. | ||
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On July 31 2017 07:41 Damdred wrote: Hrm interesting What is? | ||
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On July 31 2017 07:44 Tumblewood wrote: i have a role now. that is all i will say about it until further notice You dont seem very excited. Bad news? | ||
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On July 31 2017 07:54 Tictock wrote: What is scummy about it? It's a fairly reasonable pov, given that a game of mafia where nobody knows their alignment is pretty pointless. Like you seem to be insiuating that Cake is scum for stating that scum knew their alignment right off. But if cake is scum and knew it early on, then she is really just calling herself out. Personally I find both possibilities quite likely, and while I'm more inclined to agree with you that the first 24 hours are pretty moot I don't see a problem with at least considering the World that Cake is living in (where scum where aware from the start). Because the game would be mad town favored if everyone who didn't get an alignment from the start were town... we'd already have multiple confirmed towns. | ||
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On July 31 2017 08:09 Tumblewood wrote: sry what i meant to say was "yes!!!!!!!! woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i got my role pm!! but that's all i'm saying about it for now." How about "Glory to arstotzka?" | ||
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On July 31 2017 08:02 ruXxar wrote: Because the game would be mad town favored if everyone who didn't get an alignment from the start were town... we'd already have multiple confirmed towns. This should end the crazy train that CopCake is on and end leave that discussion dead. Let's move on. | ||
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On July 31 2017 08:11 Tictock wrote: Yea I kinda get this. Not sure about "having confirmed towns" though. Also not sure why that makes Cake's pov scummy. Like the whole point of mafia is a small group of people having info vs a large group who are in the dark. Is there really THAT much difference between a normal "Vanilla Town" PM and a "You don't know" PM? Besides the extra bit of confusion, ofc. It's scummy because shes trying to throw scum on people for illogical reasons. | ||
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On July 31 2017 08:21 CopCake wrote: This is so dumb, Mafia can pretend to do not know a thing, you know? I expect a mafia to type "I am town" not "I don't know my alignment" if they got a mafia role PM. It's a very unique thing to write, and they wouldn't catch on until a couple people wrote it already. Your argument doesn't make any sense. | ||
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On July 31 2017 08:30 CopCake wrote: Excuse me I don't understand your point. What if the host told mafia "No one knows your pm but you" Ofc Mafia would write "I don't know my role" if not then Town would have a HUGE advantage ^^ and that would make Holy Flair mafia in your world if that was the case. Now you're creating new assumptions to back your belief instead of just going with the simple idea that noone knew their alignment. | ||
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On July 31 2017 08:47 Holyflare wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rQQQR1r.png) Rise of the all arstotzkan peoples front imminent? Noone even signed up for it. What is this fake news. | ||
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They have provided me with a nice little house with everything I need. Enough heating to keep me warm and enough food to not go hungry. They seem to however have forgotten to include a box of matches to light up the gas stove. If nobody helps out, I'll have to eat my food raw. I can't wait to tell my wife the great news. Glory to Arstotzka | ||
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On July 31 2017 09:10 Tumblewood wrote: so needy. first clothes and food, now matches? what happens if no one gives you anything? Life will be hard, but I can manage. | ||
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On July 31 2017 09:14 darthfoley wrote: ##Join: The All-Arstotzkian People's Front You cannot join without a valid passport providing you entry to the great Arstotzka. Please provide a valid passport to ensure your loyal and honest affection to Arstotzka. | ||
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On July 31 2017 09:18 Tumblewood wrote: i'm hesitant to do things just because i can do things We must all share with each other. It is the way of socialism. The best way. Our great leader asks us to do our part every day. Not for ourself, but for our great nation. | ||
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On July 31 2017 09:24 Tictock wrote: The 3 hour gap between you being granted citizenship and this request strikes me as a bit odd. However in the interest of good relations between nations, I will lend aid. ##Give Item to Player: Box of Matches to Ruxxar This is the kindness that has built out great nation. Come join me for dinner, I will cook old traditional dish in celebration of today. | ||
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On July 31 2017 08:47 Holyflare wrote: Can I get a copy of the paper comrade? I want to read the articles. | ||
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My job is to protect the great nation of Arstotzka. The only regret I will have is if I let more filthy spies into the country | ||
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On July 31 2017 06:50 Conversion wrote: Sir ruXxar, could you enlighten this new fellow as to why you are at a no-lynch right now? The information will help me greatly. I am very interested in knowing what conclusion you reached from my answer. | ||
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Not willing to cooperate with arstotzkan government rules = filthy spy. Can also lynch superbia for starting rogue organization without valid papers. | ||
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On July 31 2017 14:35 CopCake wrote: But for whatever reason Idk why you have Ruxxar as someone that reacted to role pms when he didnt, like he was confused when Superbia got his pm and didnt know what he was talking about. If Ruxxar ls scum you are scum now. You are trying to save him in my eyes and looking for excuses to make me look scummy when I have given reasons in the thread Why I suspected Ruxxar, even said I prefered a ruxxar lynch than a HF one, not just the "now" and "if" comments. Outright lie. On July 31 2017 05:43 ruXxar wrote: Comrades, I have received news that I have been appropriated as a legal citizen of the great arstotzka. This is a most enjoyus day of all, that I have waited for all my life. Glory to Arstotzka. | ||
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On July 31 2017 14:36 rsoultin wrote: You don't agree with my point here then, ruxxy? Why not? I've seen so many people have that "what's going on?" reaction in my last games and they all turned out to be town. I don't find it to be a very reliable scum indicator. | ||
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On July 31 2017 14:42 CopCake wrote: The right monent when Superbia claimed you wrote "?" You didnt know what he was talking about, you figured it out later the town got their role pms. To make that argument you have to go back in the world where scum knew their alignment from the start. Which we already determined is completely unrealistic. Therefore your argument is void. | ||
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On July 31 2017 14:42 CopCake wrote: The right monent when Superbia claimed you wrote "?" You didnt know what he was talking about, you figured it out later the town got their role pms. Obviously, which is why I wrote "?". I still don't know what it's about, but it's not important. | ||
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On July 31 2017 15:21 darthfoley wrote: Open to lynching rsoultin for excessive use of italics Hue hue. | ||
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She seems so certain that scum knew their alignment from the start, which goes again common logic. This indicates that she has TMI. | ||
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This is a good place to rest my vote for now. | ||
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On July 31 2017 04:09 beentheredonethat wrote: If that is the case, we have already confirmed town people, being the ones who started the whole "oh my alignment is unclear" people. I can't believe that there are 3 scummers in a QT and 11 players that do not have an alignment yet that are not town in the end of the day. Wow, you made the same argument as me, before me and I didn't even realize until now. Confirmed town. | ||
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Can someone e summarize what HF is saying? | ||
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On July 31 2017 18:46 Koshi wrote: Ruxxar can you explain to me why you made this post? Everyone must have valid papers to enter glorious arstotzka. | ||
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On July 31 2017 20:43 Koshi wrote: Friendly tip: As soon as I get the feeling you use the RPing stuff to push any agenda you are going to get lynched. Arstotzka is not a joking matter. | ||
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On July 31 2017 22:06 VayneAuthority wrote: Hello, im lost, can anyone hear me? I need a new path just to finally be free. I'm feeling withdrawals, who's got the LSD? Drugs are heavily frowned upon in Arstotzka. Do not speak of such things in my presence. | ||
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Koshi is happy. Confirmed town. | ||
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On July 31 2017 23:27 CopCake wrote: The things that bothers me of rsoultin is that she says: - I have no sense of humor - I am smart so I shouldnt make so many mistakes - Suddenly changed to language barrier - I didnt react to change of roles Rsoultin is always nice to read, even if not in mafia game because she is not super agressive and is cute (the I dont wanna be a duck was cute) I think I have been town in this site Idr if I have played with her as town but I sure as hell I have played voice mafia and I am good reading tones in both voice and typing (I believe) I also believe a town!rsoultin would try to understand cake, but maybe a mafia rsoultin would try to be super nice to cake to win her good side 🤔 I need to think of this ?????? A big post of bla bla bla, and your conclusion is "I need to think of this"? Scum. | ||
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On August 01 2017 00:05 CopCake wrote: I beg to differ, I posted that so people that have played more with rsoultin would help me to figure it out. .... You want to trust other people, who's alignment you don't know, to determine the alignment of rsoul for you? | ||
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On August 01 2017 00:15 CopCake wrote: How is that strange? I want to hear what people have to say so I can judge in a fair way, I am not asking them to solve my shit. It is like how I asked about rels. Writing all that that which you did and not have an opinion on rsoul is strange. | ||
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On August 01 2017 00:17 CopCake wrote: Besides the way people answer also tells me a lot (Is buddying you, is taking advantage, is showing face) 🤔 I wonder how that is strange if it is a mafia game, unless my playstyle is super different from yours. When you analyze someone's play you're supposed to reach a new opinion on that persons alignment, either strengthening or wreaking your read. If your analysis did not make a change to your opinion of a person then it is useless. Or in the case of mafia: an appearance of trying to solve the game. You don't call her town, because you want to leave open the possibility of lynching her later. Yet you don't call her scum, waiting to judge thread sentiment before pushing further. | ||
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On August 01 2017 00:35 CopCake wrote: Oh I am leaving her in the "I need to figured her out" place and asked for help to judge, I am suspicious of her that is a fact. Just as people put "Maybe this person is town" How fan I? Am I forced to say "This person is town and this one not" always? I will point out always and tunnel whoever I think is mafia, just like you who buddied her and you are asking people to give you stuff. Besides I have a way to clear myself so that is why I am not even feeling nothing or bothered with your attacks. You have a way to clear yourself? This I can't wait to hear. | ||
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On August 01 2017 00:53 Tictock wrote: No idea, it wasn't specified to me how to give items so I went with what made sense to me. My matches  | ||
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It is certain that this traitors blood will run blue with democracy and liberalism. Glory to Arstotzka. | ||
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On August 01 2017 01:00 VayneAuthority wrote: Do you know what im talking about or you just don't like this post? just curious What is your name? | ||
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On August 01 2017 01:08 Koshi wrote: I wish HF would post some more. More Russian? No thanks. | ||
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On August 01 2017 01:12 Koshi wrote: Russian can be translated. I am just interested. ????? On July 31 2017 18:50 Koshi wrote: I am reading your posts but can't promise I will be able to care in the future. I don't understand your case on Ruxxar atm. If it is about the disconnect between his 2 scumhosting posts I agree. On July 31 2017 20:37 Koshi wrote: It's pretty useless but the tldr is he thinks Ruxxar is mafia. | ||
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On August 01 2017 01:18 VayneAuthority wrote: there's no way im disclosing that this early in a themed game lol, im just wondering how are little relationship here ties together. You recognized what im talking about immediately but obviously it isnt alignment indicative. Will you disclose if you were roleplaying or actually actively trying to get find/confiscate LSD? Shame. | ||
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On August 01 2017 01:21 darthfoley wrote: yea btdtd not a d1 lynch. probably town Not probably. 100%. | ||
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On August 01 2017 03:14 rsoultin wrote: I don't know who the observer is. Or at least, I'm not sure. Enlightenment would be dandy. Hmmmm. | ||
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On August 01 2017 00:35 CopCake wrote: Oh I am leaving her in the "I need to figured her out" place and asked for help to judge, I am suspicious of her that is a fact. Just as people put "Maybe this person is town" How fan I? Am I forced to say "This person is town and this one not" always? I will point out always and tunnel whoever I think is mafia, just like you who buddied her and you are asking people to give you stuff. Besides I have a way to clear myself so that is why I am not even feeling nothing or bothered with your attacks. You have a way to clear yourself? This I can't wait to hear. Still waiting on this. | ||
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On August 01 2017 03:36 rsoultin wrote: Meh not that interested. Themed game. It would be fairly meaningless if she thinks she can just claim something lol >< I want to see her try. She just keeps digging a bigger hole. | ||
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On August 01 2017 00:15 CopCake wrote: How is that strange? I want to hear what people have to say so I can judge in a fair way, I am not asking them to solve my shit. It is like how I asked about rels. You asked about rels, and someone answered it didn't matter. Where was your evaluation in all of that? You didn't let people help you influence your decision. They made the decision for you. On July 31 2017 23:36 CopCake wrote: Where is rels? On July 31 2017 23:47 Koshi wrote: Who knows? He has the bad tendency to not play on D1. On July 31 2017 23:53 CopCake wrote: Ok then he missing means nothing | ||
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On August 01 2017 03:55 rsoultin wrote: Not town-favored if she's town. Not gonna put the nail in her coffin if she's scum. Leave it. She's my #1 scum read. I'm going to keep pushing. | ||
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On August 01 2017 04:06 ruXxar wrote: You asked about rels, and someone answered it didn't matter. Where was your evaluation in all of that? You didn't let people help you influence your decision. They made the decision for you. So if someone says "oh rsoul isnt mafia" you're gonna go "i guess she isnt mafia then"? Cause that is basically what you did in the case of rels. | ||
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On August 01 2017 04:22 CopCake wrote: My way to clear myself is via Tumblewood and why I read town, he said he doesnt remember his role before the pm update, key words are "doesnt remember" he was the only person who used the word remember not just say "I dont know my role" if I know this word is because I also got the same pm. Obviously you might say "But cake what if mafia didnt know their roles either" I call bullshit. Someone tell me, if I was mafia wouldnt it be wise of me just be cute and pretend to help but nope I am here battling. Forever but you my dear Ruxxar you even ask people to give you stuff, why? Why arent you afraid of mafia knowing a little of your role? That you need matches? You got that PM. Tumble got that PM. I got that PM. Rels got that PM. Beentheredonethat got that PM. Superbia got that PM. Vayne got that PM. Wow, so many confirmed towns. ... Do you understand how stupid your argument that mafia knew their alignment from the start is? Its totally illogical, unrealistic and would never ever happen. So your defense is no defense at all and doesn't confirm that anyone is anything. | ||
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On August 01 2017 04:28 CopCake wrote: I didnt make a case of rels, I asked where he was wtf? Someone said that he didnt tend to post on day 1 and no one found that "sketchy" nor denied that was false so I have to wait for him to act here to judge him myself. On August 01 2017 00:15 CopCake wrote: It is like how I asked about rels. Aka, you dropped the topic as soon as someone told you to drop it. | ||
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On August 01 2017 04:36 CopCake wrote: There is a difference, Tumblewood was the only person who said "I dont remember" while the rest said "I dont know" for me this difference is important. Another strawman argument from lala land. | ||
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On August 01 2017 04:44 rsoultin wrote: Cake, Ruxx, talk about literally anything/anyone else for at least the night or I swear I'm just going to push to lynch you both. I CANNOT READ YOU LIKE THIS What's there to read? Cake confirmed herself town already. | ||
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On August 01 2017 04:44 rsoultin wrote: Cake, Ruxx, talk about literally anything/anyone else for at least the night or I swear I'm just going to push to lynch you both. I CANNOT READ YOU LIKE THIS I'll stop when you vote for her. She's scum. | ||
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On August 01 2017 04:52 rsoultin wrote: More inclined to vote for you right now. There's at least two other scum. We get you think cake is scum. If you're town, consider the possibility you're wrong and stop shaking her like a rag doll. Anyway, I'm going to bed now. Another early day tomorrow @.@ Apparently I haven't done enough since noone is voting for her besides me. | ||
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On August 01 2017 04:50 rsoultin wrote: I'm coming around to your point of view, paper boy. Ruxxar, Cake, I want your views of the game state. If you're town, help me see it. If not, please, continue to shit up the thread with the same tired arguments. Carry on. Here's my list so far: Town: Btdt. Koshi. Scum: Copcake | ||
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On August 01 2017 05:03 darthfoley wrote: The fact that they are so honed in on each other on D1 makes me think one of them is mafia and this is the only read they feel comfortable debating in thread. So static. Might be ruxxar. Don't think he's engaging with the thread like I've seen in the past few games I'm not going to dilute my effort when I have already caught scum. | ||
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On August 01 2017 05:50 CopCake wrote: Now I have to think on Holyflair ![[image loading]](http://pa1.narvii.com/6149/533134dc40970a84f028402867300ab93d1edf00_hq.gif) (if I remembered one pls correct) - Holyflair claimed town - Then that doesnt know - He claimed he knew what he was when Superbia asked if there was a person that could hand in passports. Holyflair was that person who took that role. -Holyflair was the first person that reacted to role updates (newspaper boy) - Then he stopped to post newspapers and just started to talk in russian ????? Again no conclusion. | ||
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On August 01 2017 05:48 darthfoley wrote: Huh? Tell me what ruxxar has done besides tunnel CopCake then defend his tunneling for ass reasons. I legit cannot remember anything else he's said. Doesn't remind me at all of his town games She is scum, I don't need any other reason to tunnel someone. | ||
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On August 01 2017 05:57 CopCake wrote: Someone pls say something my lunch break is almost over. HF is town. Look elsewhere. | ||
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On August 01 2017 06:10 CopCake wrote: Point out why I am scum, make your case. 1) Your refusal to drop the belief that scum knew their alignment from the start. Based on this illogical absurdness you have tried to formulate arguments with no basis in reality. 2) Intentionally misrepresenting what people are doing. 3) Creating posts summarizing your thoughts on people, without giving your opinion on whether that is towny or scummy. Instead you are fishing for people to do it for you. | ||
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On August 01 2017 06:49 darthfoley wrote: Why* Because I'm at risk of getting lynched if I dont get people to move their votes. | ||
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On August 01 2017 07:07 beentheredonethat wrote: More votes on Rels until he delivers this It's for a good cause. ##vote rels | ||
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On August 01 2017 07:56 CopCake wrote: Honestly rn I think you dont even bother to read the thread but just pretend to be productive by tunelling me. > Leave Holyflare alone he is town > Holy has spent around 35% of his posts saying Ruxxar is mafia How are those two things mutually exclusive? | ||
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On August 01 2017 08:09 darthfoley wrote: you should switch your vote back to the super confirmed mafia, copcake No. | ||
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The theme had thrown everything off balance, my senses are in shambles. I liked koshis point on DF about him sheeping other reads. Damdred has also been really meh weak sauce this game. That's as far as I've come for scum #2 and #3. I liked conversions responses as the game moved on. Think he's town, not lynching today. | ||
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Scum: Copcake. DF.? Damdred? Town: Btdt Koshi Rsoul Tick tock. Conversion. Hf. And now I gotta get to work. | ||
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On July 31 2017 22:06 VayneAuthority wrote: Hello, im lost, can anyone hear me? I need a new path just to finally be free. I'm feeling withdrawals, who's got the LSD? Can I ask why you need it? | ||
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On August 01 2017 15:09 Tumblewood wrote: i think koshi's read on df is less alignment indicative than you think Please explain your thoughts a bit more. | ||
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On August 01 2017 15:29 CopCake wrote: - gets online - sees ruxxar's fishing for roles Really town? Really town. | ||
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On August 01 2017 15:33 Tumblewood wrote: scum don't necessarily sheep people that much more than town. i think if you applied that read every time the conditions were there, you would be just slightly more accurate than guessing. not much more to say Good point I suppose. It's not the only thing bothering me about DF though. It kinda just compounded on top of an already off meta feeling. I'll recheck his filter to make sure I'm not just trying to confirm my own bias. | ||
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On August 01 2017 15:34 CopCake wrote: This is like the third time ruxxar had been trying to rolefish, either way going to more old pages And that makes me...? Come on, I know you can say it if you try really hard. | ||
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On August 01 2017 15:45 CopCake wrote: My vote is on you the whole "Omg she is pointing fingers and not having a conclusion" doesnt work with me.I also suggest people not to say what they need/have until a day has passed, maybe mafia needs one of your items or know what items do a will try to steal. it's working just fine. You're getting scummier with each post you make. The cat is already out of the bag. What's the point of having a game of items if we're not going to use them? boring... | ||
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On August 01 2017 16:02 CopCake wrote: You dont want to lynch tiktok for the box of matches. That is it. It's a pretty big deal. Good things will happen. | ||
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On August 01 2017 01:18 VayneAuthority wrote: there's no way im disclosing that this early in a themed game lol, im just wondering how are little relationship here ties together. You recognized what im talking about immediately but obviously it isnt alignment indicative. Will you disclose if you were roleplaying or actually actively trying to get find/confiscate LSD? What makes you say it's "obviously not alignment indicative"? | ||
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On August 01 2017 16:15 Superbia wrote: Start of a long day at work. Will be lurking and hopefully post a nice evaluation before I get home This post was useless. | ||
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On August 01 2017 16:19 Superbia wrote: You're trying a little too hard for my likings Why would you declare that you'll be actively lurking? | ||
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On August 01 2017 16:24 Superbia wrote: You're still on CC aye? Of course. | ||
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On August 01 2017 16:29 Superbia wrote: Also, HF, I'm going to ignore every non-English post you make. HF is in the game? /s | ||
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On August 01 2017 16:23 Superbia wrote: I always do? Also I have done this already at least once this game. Serves 2 purposes: - People know I am half-available for any questions. - Makes me seem a little more townie rather than me saying nothing and seeming afk. Well you seem to be posting just fine now. Why don't you post some opinions and ask some questions? Dont need big analysis. Just being active and engaged buys a lot of towny points in my book. What I took from your post was that you were saying "I'm going to be lurking and not posting anything until later". It's basically what koshi declared last game as mafia at the start of the game as an excuse for being inactive. I really hate those kind of posts. On July 13 2017 06:34 Koshi wrote: Hello my Minions. Your master will be doing a 1 page filter D1. He is planning on making 3 big quality posts and around 15 "fluff" posts but only when he politely is asked a question or feels like barking a question. Good Minions know that the great leader should be followed, and even naughty Minions know to at least sheep the master his list. Evil Minions will be dealt with. Swiftly and without mercy. Your leader has spoken. Hail to the great leader. | ||
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These posts in particular are really bad: On July 31 2017 07:32 Superbia wrote: Gimme some material to work with for tomo plz :3 On August 01 2017 03:20 Superbia wrote: I half lurked through a bz day. Anything of worth I need to read? On August 01 2017 03:32 Superbia wrote: I'm tired so I'm just gonna lurk for now. z_z On August 01 2017 16:15 Superbia wrote: Start of a long day at work. Will be lurking and hopefully post a nice evaluation before I get home | ||
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On August 01 2017 16:54 Superbia wrote: That's all? There's more? | ||
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On August 01 2017 17:00 Superbia wrote: Idk I'm kinda disappointed that you'd call me mafia for just that. Expected a decent case It's more than solid enough. Pretty obvious scum behavior. | ||
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On August 01 2017 19:07 CopCake wrote: You afe the most hypocrite person on this game, you just called Superbia to be scum for saying he will lurk because he has work but you said you are going yo be lurking because you have a megadeth concert wtf Lurking = actively watching the thread but not posting. Where did I say was going to lurk in here? On August 01 2017 07:00 ruXxar wrote: Tomorrow I'll be busy all day going straight from work to see megadeth in the evening. I'll see what else I can do, but I can't promise much. | ||
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On August 01 2017 18:38 beentheredonethat wrote: Ruxxar so carefree. Reminds me of scum me :D So I'm scum or town? | ||
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On August 01 2017 19:21 CopCake wrote: Ruxxar: Fishing roles: - asks vayne why he needs LSD - aks in a implied way to cake to reveal her role early game But he feels comfortable: - asking for a box of matches - not saying why he needs them :D but hey lets push Vayne why he needs a trace(path) and LSD Other points - He doesnt want to lynch tictoc because of the box of matches - says I am mafia because I dont have my "own opinion" - whenever I create a post like this (facts) To see everybody else opinion "Uh cake doesnt have her own opinion she lets people do her work" when I honestly give no shit and even decided to live in the world where mafia knew their alignent - He claims HF is town but HF has been saying two things: * the 24 hrs were not in vain * ruxxar is mafia Ruxxar is mafia thank you. You didn't answer this: On August 01 2017 07:56 CopCake wrote: Honestly rn I think you dont even bother to read the thread but just pretend to be productive by tunelling me. > Leave Holyflare alone he is town > Holy has spent around 35% of his posts saying Ruxxar is mafia How are those two things mutually exclusive? Why can't I think HF is town while he is scum reading me? | ||
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On August 01 2017 19:31 CopCake wrote: - because that means that you agree that the first 24 hrs were not in vain and mafia knew their aligments which you dont - any town would have tried to clear himself with the newspaper boy or a town read, lets say if superbia ever thinks i am mafia i would try to clear myself because she is my town read 1) That is not what you said. You called me mafia for town reading HF town when he was scum reading me. Which doesn't make anyone mafia. 2) I don't particularly care what HF thinks about me. And I won't until he starts speaking plain english. | ||
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Everyone besides you, copcake and conversion. Pretty sure I played 1 game with ticktock too, but not 100% | ||
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On August 01 2017 21:47 Damdred wrote: Good morning old timers, catching up if anti wants to talk and goof off You need to do some spellchecking before you post. Its annoying to read your posts. | ||
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On August 01 2017 21:53 Superbia wrote: Raxxur, gimme a link to your most recent scum gameerino plox I have no recent scum games. | ||
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On August 01 2017 22:06 Rels wrote: My thoughts catching up. + Show Spoiler + ruxxar p14: has the same idea I just had reading the preceding posts, that the first 24h are probably useless and NAI. Town points. copcake p14: why does she think mafia knew their roles the first 24 hours ? Yeah we don't know for sure one way or the other but in retrospect it would be a pretty dumb way for scum to be lynched right there, so it seems unlikely. Maybe TMI. After that, some people agreeing with ruxxar. rsoul p17: is also convinced that scum got their role PM early. Weird. rsoul p17: next post on ruxxar / cake / Conv is good though. rsoul / Cake p18: lol cake OMGUS. rsoul is pretty awesome. DF p19: a post that doesn't make sense, where BTDT's play is scummy in the first 24h but he believes nobody gets his role PM in the first 24h. Might be scum. Koshi p19: welcome back town leader Koshi. I missed you last game. HF p19: roleplaying russian. It's annoying. Maybe scummy if he hides behind that long enough. Unless it's due to his role somehow. Not even saying scumhunt stuff just fluff. BTDT p20: butthurt. Slightly townie. Suprebia p20: no real opinion just posting some stuff. Also thought last page that HF posts were OK somehow when they are all stuff until now. Maybe scum. HF p20: lol maybe he's been talking about ruxxar (rexar in warcraft) this whole time ... rereading / retranslating will be necessary at some point. Yep 100% talking about ruxxar. Conversion p22: dont OMGUS BTDT when he has a reason if he wanted to + good posts on Superbia. Good. Koshi p22: Koshi being thread dictator against ruxxar. Good. Against Conv too. Good. Superbia p22: OK Superbia actually has a great logic against Conv. It doesn't make Conv scum I think. But I can believe Supervia believes it. VA p23: weird RP post. Dunno what to think of it though. Just after made me remember TT was in the game. I had forgotten even though technically my vote is on him. Good if TT is scum. Don't think partners attract attention to his friend AFKing. DF p24: voting TT just after VA and Damdred called TT scum. Voting for a reason I don't understand. Cake p24: asks if it's normal I'm AFK, Koshi says "yes", is convinced immediately ? Maybe she meta checked the information. But if not it's weird. Shows a lack of critical thinking. BTDT p26: catch the above Cake thing. Good. rsoul p29: I hate this: "Also have a really sick theory that I wish I could share but don't think it would be wise to ;o; I'm gonna be so disappointed when it turns out not to be real lol >< -bounces-" ruxxar p30: ruxxar probably town. Being the same butthurt self who was fixated in an idea the last two games. rsoul p31: don't see the similarities with ruxxar's play this game and last game even though she just played with the dude. Koshi p33: Top town (Koshi) is voting top scum (DF). Good. VA p34: also thinks ruxxar looks different from last game even though he's playing the same. Maybe ruxxar is scul and imitating his playstyle; maybe ruxxar town and is playing like last game; in all case VA saying ruxxar is not playing the same is wrong. TT p36: voting VA because he's an hypocrite, asking for an item and scumreading TT for giving an item. Might make sense. Actually VA didn't say he scumread TT solely because TT seemed to give an item. VA said he scumread TT because he KNOWS what the matches are for, and apparently they're scummy for some reason ? So TT reasonning is weird, he doesn't want to know more before voting him. Im unvoting you. Good effort Rels | ||
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On August 01 2017 22:20 VayneAuthority wrote: I don't think im wrong about the matches, but yes its pretty certain im wrong about at least one of them because it doesnt really make sense. I just don't get why he would be giving ruxxar an item so early with no info when he is far from confirmed town. If somebody can make a convincing case ill move but don't really see anything better then tictock especially after his lazy OMGUS vote (didnt really explain why im mafia as far as im concerned or I would reconsider if he looked to be solving the game) Whats your opinion on DF and damdred? | ||
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On August 01 2017 01:18 VayneAuthority wrote: there's no way im disclosing that this early in a themed game lol, im just wondering how are little relationship here ties together. You recognized what im talking about immediately but obviously it isnt alignment indicative. Will you disclose if you were roleplaying or actually actively trying to get find/confiscate LSD? If I answer this, what can you offer in return? | ||
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On August 01 2017 22:27 VayneAuthority wrote: I will tell you what I know about the LSD (fair warning that its not that interesting) I already have that information. | ||
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On August 01 2017 22:32 Conversion wrote: wait VA you know about the LSD but you don't have it? Where does he say he doesn't have it? He could be a drug addict that needs another dose. | ||
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On August 01 2017 23:26 beentheredonethat wrote: Ok tell me how it works then or, show me, by playing townie and being contributive. right now, the thing you're contributing the most is bad spelling AMEN | ||
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On August 01 2017 23:37 darthfoley wrote: Yes, I should be. As of now, I think (town to mafia) TW Koshi ruxx Rels ------- Conversion rsoultin VA HF ------- CC Superbia Damdred TT Look at that symmetry No opinion on BTDT? I find that very strange. | ||
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On August 01 2017 23:40 darthfoley wrote: Oh crap, I knew I forgot someone. He'd probably be under Rels or above Conversion. I thought he was much more town earlier, but he's kinda trailed off since Gotcha. | ||
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On August 01 2017 23:43 Damdred wrote: I'm not sure why do many people have to be disparaging towards my fast fingers and my phone keyboard. Literally has no purpose but to be rude and honestly irritating. And if you think that being that way towards me will hasten my speed of doing things, I promplu sa gofuck yourself and have a nice day. Now goodbye for now It takes you literally 10 seconds to look over a post and make sure it looks good. When you only type 3 sentences in each posts and cant even get the words right then yes, it's your own god damn fault. | ||
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On August 01 2017 23:43 Damdred wrote: I'm not sure why do many people have to be disparaging towards my fast fingers and my phone keyboard. Literally has no purpose but to be rude and honestly irritating. And if you think that being that way towards me will hasten my speed of doing things, I promplu sa gofuck yourself and have a nice day. Now goodbye for now I've never seen damdred lose his cool before. Want to lynch him real bad for this post. | ||
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On August 01 2017 23:57 darthfoley wrote: in an ideal world where you get to decide the lynch, who dies? It's like a 50/50 between copcake and superbia. I might even prefer superbia, believe it or not. | ||
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On August 02 2017 00:00 Holyflare wrote: В последних новостях Редактор подавлен из-за явного отсутствия людей, читающих газету. Надеюсь, редактору будет позволено завтра вспомнить английский, и на самом деле играть в этот дерьмовый мей. Слава Астроцке или тому, что она называется! On August 02 2017 00:01 Holyflare wrote: Последние новости. Игра - это дерьмо, когда на вас накладываются две отредактированные вещи. Я не могу сообщить об этом. Просто используйте свое воображение. Редактор отмечает. This actually made me really sad for your HF It's gotta feel awful | ||
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On August 02 2017 00:06 CopCake wrote: I hate when people ask me things and then i get completely ignored and I cant see how superbia is mafia when his tone is the only i remember to be similar to the people I have played with in the past. It also bothers me that I am town, trying to hunt, the only person that hunt in the beginning and now I am like "Oh you havent done anything you are only focusing on ruxxar" So frustating, I need someone smart with me. Scum hunting? You mean stating facts and waiting for the thread to answer for you? | ||
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On August 02 2017 00:11 Superbia wrote: Are you fucking kidding me? You case did not even bring up copcake which has been your #1 tunnel scumread from the get go. And copcake read me town from the very start. You did not even bother to bring up that connection? I was trying to bait this out because if you are town then you should believe in your reads. I was hoping for crackpot theories and instead I get this weak-ass "case" that consists of me following my general meta (i.e. doing nothing for 90% of the game) and therefore being scummy. That's your big scum case? Either your reads are shallow as town or you're mafia. So you're saying that you playing scummy is an excuse to call you as town since it's your meta? No I'm going to call you scum. I just had a deja vu. | ||
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On August 02 2017 00:17 Superbia wrote: I'm saying I always play lazily so it's NAI................. seriously? It's not NAI when you're playing scummy. It's scummy. | ||
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On August 02 2017 00:19 Superbia wrote: Your case falls apart when you even check 1/10th of a game I have been in as town. So you admit you're playing scummy, and always play scummy. And now you are surprised when you get called scum? If I don't get to call you scum when you play scummy, when am I supposed to call you scum? When you play towny? ..... | ||
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On August 02 2017 00:23 Superbia wrote: Maybe you need to redefine how you read people. Or stop giving shallow reads. Cake: I need to do some re-checking of filters but you may actually have had the best reads so far this game. Nice dodge of trying to defend your backwards ass scum logic. | ||
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On August 02 2017 00:23 Superbia wrote: Cake: I need to do some re-checking of filters but you may actually have had the best reads so far this game. I can't believe I'm reading this. | ||
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On August 02 2017 00:28 Superbia wrote: Cool. I'm going to ignore you for a little ruxxar. Then, later this evening, your reads will have evolved or I will lynch you. You and your 2 scum buddies are gonna lynch me? Good luck with that. | ||
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On August 02 2017 00:30 Tictock wrote: In one post you state that HF is impossible to read with the way he is posting, which I agree with. In the next you are saying he is being scummy / anti-Town which is pushing it. It feels like the way scum would try to build a mislynch on someone acting strangely. My own stance on HF hasn't changed really since I cannot read his posts myself. From what people have translated I feel a touch better about him but am still unable to get a proper read without being able to understand his posts. Read HF lasts couple of posts. He is likely forced to send his posts to the "Editor" (aka rayn) who then returns a message back to him in russian that he is allowed to post in the thread. It's a very sad state of affairs. Also, btdt is town, stop pushing him. I need you alive to give me those matches. | ||
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On August 02 2017 01:30 rsoultin wrote: coooome oooon where is everyone ;o; I'm right here sweetheart. | ||
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On August 02 2017 01:26 rsoultin wrote: nononono this is not like last games. i'm not even sure what last games were like, but it's not, cause it's not town damdred ^^ You said you didn't see similarities with my play this game compared to last game since you were playing mafia last game and mafia read the game differently. On August 01 2017 22:52 rsoultin wrote: Reading a game as scum is different than reading a game as town -shrugs- irrelevant now that he starts looking at other things How can you be so sure about damdred? | ||
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On August 02 2017 01:23 darthfoley wrote: Yea I have been putting him in the scum category. Mainly because his vote on me looks unwarranted and completely not explained. But he's been lynch bait the past few games playing a similar style. I would lynch superbia/TT before him, but he's not a bad lynch per se I would say his style is different this game. It's hard to tell since he generally writes so little anyway, but the small nuances are there if you look for them. | ||
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On August 02 2017 01:38 rsoultin wrote: ah, not ignoring! \o/ -flicks ruxxar- i'm talking about many, many games of playing with damdred. this isn't damdred. damdred is one of the nicest guys on the planet, but he has this habit of getting all emo when people discount his reads and don't pay attention to him. he knows he's not good at replicating that emotion as scum...and this typo 'outburst' is entirely wrong like i haven't been happy with him all game but that post is not town damdred. this is not a 'last game' vs 'this game' thing. @df i skimmed over part and didn't give a fuck cause i'm town and never ever getting lynched this game. if there's something you want to ask me, go for it I agree and I said as much. It's just that I have other very strong candidates to mull over. If I can't get them lynched I'll move my vote later. | ||
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On August 02 2017 01:46 rsoultin wrote: ;o; but i'm like...80% certain I'm right with the other 20% being like...maybe he's high or underwent major personality changes since last I played with him 80% is fucking insane for me on a d1 It's not me you have to convince, I really want to lynch damdred as well. The way votes are looking copcake and superbia don't seem like likely lynches, so you'll probably get your way in the end. | ||
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On August 02 2017 02:02 Tumblewood wrote: when i went to sleep there were only 37 pages. (damn euros.) did i miss anything big I found a new scum. | ||
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On August 02 2017 01:42 darthfoley wrote: What can you pinpoint specifically that is different? This post is the biggest offender: On August 01 2017 23:43 Damdred wrote: I'm not sure why do many people have to be disparaging towards my fast fingers and my phone keyboard. Literally has no purpose but to be rude and honestly irritating. And if you think that being that way towards me will hasten my speed of doing things, I promplu sa gofuck yourself and have a nice day. Now goodbye for now 1) It's a silly reason to be upset if you are town. It's a good reason to fake an upset if you are mafia(any excuse to buy you "legit" time afk is scummy in my book). 2) It's not like damdred to lose his cool. Last game i posted a barrade of questions at damdred, and he kept his head cool and composed. 3) This whole game he has been typing like a 3 year old playing whackamole. It's so over the top that I'm feeling he is doing it purpose to appear "care-free" about what he types. | ||
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On August 02 2017 02:07 rsoultin wrote: if you don't say it's damdred i'm gonna throw a shoe at you :/ I've always wondered how it's like to walk in high heels. | ||
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On August 02 2017 02:15 Conversion wrote: hmm okay I can only disagree with 1 because I got pretty upset last game (not sure if it showed or not) that I played bc BTDT was pushing for my scumminess as I typed with perfect grammar on the phone and I was explaining that my posts weren't as good/active since I was on a phone I can't make any judgments on "meta" calls, so I'll trust you on 2. And I agree with the possibility of 3, but I'm leaning more towards TT/Superbia (as you said, 80% sure vs. ???s or itches.. and Damdred is a ?? or itch for me whereas TT/Superbia behavior isn't) Superbia is an excellent choice. I love you for saying that <3 | ||
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On August 02 2017 02:20 rsoultin wrote: autocorrect pwns me so...-shrugs- not even sure why this is relevant? Im saying its not natural to have that many typos writing from a phone. Heck, I write better on my phone than on my keyboard. | ||
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On August 02 2017 02:22 rsoultin wrote: and i don't. and this is nai regardless @.@ who cares if he has trouble writing on a phone? Because he didn't last game. | ||
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On August 02 2017 02:26 rsoultin wrote: pretty sure he did, and even if he didn't, he's consistently had trouble posting from his phone. like if you need this argument to lynch him then i guess sure yeah, he's totally scum for (what exactly do you think? lying?) about having trouble posting on his phone -snorts- Isn't that exactly your argument why he is scum lol? | ||
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On August 02 2017 02:28 Conversion wrote: yeah.. what "3) This whole game he has been typing like a 3 year old playing whackamole. It's so over the top that I'm feeling he is doing it purpose to appear "care-free" about what he types." Pssst, that was my post. | ||
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On August 02 2017 02:29 rsoultin wrote: lol if i ever have a scumread like this on anyone, shoot me in the head >< irl not in game, cause i'm pretty sure i'd never try to push anything that crazy as scum I'll concede this point. There's a difference between accusing someone of being scum for typos vs how they react to being called out for typos. M'lady *bows* | ||
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On August 02 2017 06:32 rsoultin wrote: Я поймал эту кровавую болезнь. По крайней мере, мы знаем, что святая планета не троллирует. Glorious passport officer. | ||
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On August 02 2017 06:33 CopCake wrote: ![[image loading]](http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md5hgiwLaf1raay0eo1_500.gif) can we please listen to me and fuck beentheredonethat, darth, rux and rsoultin? You want to what now? | ||
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On August 02 2017 06:34 CopCake wrote: How can you be happy? He was a fucking cop A fucking cop with ##learn role Aghhhh seriously How is he a cop? | ||
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On August 02 2017 08:28 darthfoley wrote: tbh i'm lost. hopefully there are some night actions that help out. i need to figure out who i can trust to do something You can trust me. | ||
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On August 02 2017 19:11 Koshi wrote: btdt played extremely townie during EoD. Constantly moving his vote Rels -> Damdred/CC/TT while trying closing in on the best target. Really impressed by that. Don't think he can ever do that as mafia. I had the exact opposite reaction to his EOD. Felt like he just wanted to lynch anything he could. His reaction to tictock "who is against lynching tictock" was forced and scummy. Also the shenanigans seemed very forced and random. Question for HF and Rsoul, is there any way to prevent the spreading of the russian disease? It's a really shitty game mechanic(fuuuu rayn), so if there some way to stop it or reverse it, I'll do anything in my power to do so. | ||
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On August 02 2017 19:42 Koshi wrote: Knowing it hit HF and rsoultin it is probably mafia induced. If so, its logical to think that mafia wanted to silence them from contributing to the game. We should look into rsouls reads because she was chosen for a reason. | ||
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On August 02 2017 19:54 Koshi wrote: Not sure why rsoultin jumped from TT to df tbh. Looks bad. Your opinion on this post: There is no point making that as mafia fighting for your life right? Why not? It makes perfect sense. | ||
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On August 02 2017 19:54 Koshi wrote: Not sure why rsoultin jumped from TT to df tbh. Looks bad. You think rsoul is scum and her mafia play is to pretend to be a russian speaking person to avoid getting lynched? | ||
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On August 02 2017 20:39 Koshi wrote: I am now living in a world in which DF is town and I am looking for mafia outside my 3 suspects. What made you change your mind? I can't see any reason in your filter why. | ||
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On August 02 2017 21:51 Koshi wrote: Don't think scum!df makes those last 2 posts after already making so many other posts EoD. It's not much but I like it atm. Can you explain your thought process why mafia!df doesn't make those posts? I don't understand why he wouldn't. | ||
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On August 02 2017 23:03 Koshi wrote: It sounds logical to me so I am running with it. ??? Please answer my question. | ||
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On August 02 2017 22:59 VayneAuthority wrote: All I can gather is that the russian thing probably makes rsoultin town. I need to read HF's filter right now I guess, because he is precisely the type of person that would use it on himself if its mafia related and hes mafia A thought that struck my mind is that HF selecting Rsoul as passport officer might be related to also getting the russian disease. This might also explain why HF said the first 24h weren't a waste, since his PM might've been unique giving him a mission to select a replacement for his first "job". This might also explain why HF in the beginning of the game said that he was *town* and not that he *didn't know* his alignment, since he might've actually have gotten a different and unique role PM. Keep in mind that HF was actually made to speak russian during the day and NOT during the night as a consequence of a night action. Most mafia actions are only done during the night, and as such, I don't think HF being forced to speak russian was actually due to mafia action. This points to it being tied to his role/mod game setup. This means it's possible that HF was the one that made Rsoul into speaking russian, without knowing himself that this would be the consequence of selecting her. ---- Question for HF: Was selecting an official passport officer RP or part of the game? | ||
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On August 02 2017 23:18 Holyflare wrote: Очень легко проверить, является ли разрешение мафией. Просто спроси ее, какое сообщение она получила. Я уже упоминал об этом где-то. @Rsoul: What message did you get? | ||
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On August 02 2017 23:32 CopCake wrote: I have problems, I mean TT said about the first 24 hrs and he was town :psyduck so what makes you think mafia didnt know his role? And holy flare started to said the first 24 hrs were not in vain as in he got attacked by an action during the day. What? Explain. | ||
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On August 02 2017 23:31 Koshi wrote: Either this post is mafia!df still bullshitting hard after deadline or this is town!df being upset he might be lynched over TT who played in his eyes less good than him. 1 min earlier (or a few seconds) and it looked he would get lynched he gives his reads. This is town!df trying to guide town to victory after he gets lynched as good as he can. Or this is mafia!df making this post to remove votes from him. Again 1 minute earlier. this looks pretty nai. Again 1 minute earlier. Why try to go for Damdred? Survival was lynching TT. Imagine mafia!df needing to survive vs town!TT, why not try to bury TT? Why suggest this? As mafia it doesn't matter who dies, as long as it isn't mafia. Same minute. Pretty nai 1 minute earlier. Again does not show mafia mindset of survival. I believe that this chain is more likely town over mafia. If you don't think that. Fine. I think I am right. You think you are right. Suggesting I am mafia for thinking this is just really bad play tbh. Now that I typed it out I am even more confident it is true. Now you're making sense. Thanks | ||
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On August 02 2017 23:39 Koshi wrote: It's probably about the mod message he had to speak Russian. She said "he got attacked by an action". You dont get "attacked" by a mod updating your role PM. | ||
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On August 02 2017 23:45 CopCake wrote: The attack is he speaking russian. The moment he posted the newspaper Booom he got russian disease ..... What? 1) Who did he get attacked by? Mafia? During the day? 2) He got attacked *because* he posted the news paper? I'm not making sense of what you are saying. | ||
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On August 02 2017 23:47 darthfoley wrote: I think Koshi is town. I'm getting town vibes from HF as well. Rels also struck me as town when he was posting, asking questions in the right places. ruxXar i'm pretty unsure about. He's asking just enough questions in the right places to skate by. He was supposedly gone EoD so it's hard to gauge his actions iirc. I think if CopCake is scum, VA is probably town. CopCake has made multiple "forgetful" mistakes post flip, and now she's living in a 100% Darthfoley/btdt mafia world for like no reason. The stubbornness strikes me as odd so early in the game. I still think rsoultin's 180 reversal on Damdred is weird. Damdred had kind of a scummy EoD as well. It went from Damdred is 80% scum to Damdred explains one tiny point to "Damdred is never scum here!" The progression really bugs me. SvS or TvS? Superbia has done n o t h i n g to make me think that he's town. Inb4 "i'm always terrible town or lurk mafia!" self meta analysis. Conversion hasn't done jack since Superbia's pressure got off of him. Might just be lucky mafia who skated by for the rest of D1? I'm nervous about how confident Btdt was that I was town, even with a few inconsistencies found by Rels. I didn't feel like Btdt ever considered me for the lynch, which strikes me as odd. TW kinda seemed tone from tone etc, but his EoD spooked me as well. This is a good post DF, like a really damn good post. You're going to solid town for this one. | ||
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On August 02 2017 23:57 Holyflare wrote: Вы можете вылечить болезнь? Почему, черт возьми, ты не излечишь меня? LOL. Sad newspaper boy. | ||
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1) It shows you evaluating people and their play. 2) Shows good thread engagement and insight. You've picked up details and been actively interested. 3) It has original thoughts(rsoul could be mafia, nervous about btdt) 4) It's consistent with your previous reads. | ||
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On August 03 2017 00:00 Conversion wrote: Выбор, не является панацеей. Я пока не доверяю вам, чтобы предоставить вам выбор. Seriously, can you just cure HF FFS? I miss having him breathing down my neck. | ||
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On August 03 2017 00:19 CopCake wrote: Tbf maybe conversion can cure HF during the night so until next day we can see that. Yes, he said he didn't have much time left to Rsoul to make a choice. Aka it's a night action. | ||
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On August 02 2017 23:55 CopCake wrote: Idk if mafia only attacks at night, holy flare is a fact he got perfomed an attack on him so that is WHY he is speaking russian. Do you think a town would have done that? To make HF speak russian? Or do you think HF put a fucking target on himself if he was mafia? Like he got the fucking russian disease after he posted the newspaper that said "24 were not in vain" if I see this as a mafia point of view I would shut him up because he knows something and I would rather have advantage of confused town. This is a blatant lie and outright falsety. HF said that he made a mistake speaking english and then corrected himself in the next post. Which was *BEFORE* he posted about "24 hours not in vain". Look at this, HF's first posts as newspaper boy: On July 31 2017 05:28 Holyflare wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/urO9IHG.png) This next post was a MISTAKE. It should've been in Russian. On July 31 2017 05:31 Holyflare wrote: Comrades, fear not, I have been reassigned! Which he said here: On August 02 2017 23:59 Holyflare wrote: You must first ignore my English. I made a mistake. Passports were fluffy. The newspaper was what I had to do, but I forgot that I had to speak and in Russian, and corrected it as soon as possible. THEN comes his post about 24h in vain, when he has ALREADY gotten the russian affliction. On July 31 2017 08:47 Holyflare wrote: | ||
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There's a limit to how many times you're going to create false stories and base people's alignment on them. I'm lynching you tomorrow. | ||
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On August 03 2017 00:40 Holyflare wrote: Нет, я думал, что могу обойти с картинками. My point still stands. | ||
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On August 03 2017 01:31 darthfoley wrote: Can anyone come in and validate my sick read of Superbia being mafia and me being good Town? It's tiring telling a mafia he's mafia It's also pointless. You're not going to convince him, I've already tried. | ||
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On August 03 2017 00:51 CopCake wrote: Ok Ruxxar goes back to mafia/third You cant say I tried. It's hard to face the truth, I know. | ||
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On August 03 2017 01:34 Conversion wrote: yo HF you around? Have you come to sing the hallelujas? | ||
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On August 03 2017 01:38 Conversion wrote: ?? what I'm trying to figure out how to play this game You type some words and hit post. | ||
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On August 03 2017 01:41 Conversion wrote: rabble rabble rabble chatter chatter alakazam also noticed just now I'm a lurker. neato The magic 8 ball says you're town. | ||
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On August 03 2017 00:31 VayneAuthority wrote: holy shit the translations on those last 2 posts. so city. so urban. Hey Vayne, can I get some dope ass VCA from last night? | ||
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On August 03 2017 01:14 Tumblewood wrote: yo is anyone gonna learn about that box o matches Give me some reads TW. Where is your head at? Don't remember any of your reads. A short list of town and scum please. | ||
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On August 03 2017 02:30 VayneAuthority wrote: probably put some thought into it next phase, i need to see a few things resolve tonight first though Alright, I can't wait | ||
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On August 03 2017 02:24 CopCake wrote: How can you be so sure HF and Koshi are town? This is like you are implying you are 100% sure they are town. The only reason you can be 100% is if you are mafia. Like you 100% know that mafia knew their roles from the start? | ||
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On August 03 2017 02:41 CopCake wrote: One thing is having a theory that in your head makes logic but another thing is to call people something. Mechanics are one thing, People another. Nothing you say makes sense. You're so anti town you should be a policy lynch. | ||
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On August 03 2017 02:49 CopCake wrote: Just blah bla bla bla bla from your part Help, I don't wanna be active and stuck with a mafia/third party that will repeat over and over that "I make no sense" How many mafia games have you played? | ||
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On August 03 2017 02:53 Tumblewood wrote: town and i feel good about it: damdred hf koshi va town and i'm 85% sure: df super need to reread (rough town - > scum): btdt conv rels rsoul ruxxar scum ???: copcake Thanks! I'm curious about your btdt, rels, rso and copcake reads. If you could give me a summary of your opinion on them that'd be great. | ||
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On August 03 2017 02:58 beentheredonethat wrote: This. Holyflare seems to oppose this though. As do I. | ||
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On August 03 2017 03:00 beentheredonethat wrote: His reaction to tictock "who is against lynching tictock" was forced and scummy. Wait. 1. It was ME who asked this question several times. It was not tictock. 2. What in the world was the "reaction" you are talking about? 3. I asked that question because it's a super high indicator that it is a town lynch if absolutely noone is against a certain lynch. Why are you calling me out on a "reaction"? 1) I know it was you. That's what I said. Maybe my wording was ambiguous. 2)You seemed overly eager to find a reason to call TT town, yet you still ended up voting for him. Aka you didn't really care that he was town, you just wanted town credit when he flipped. 3) I would've stopped his lynch if I was there. I'm really sad about it, because I felt that TT trusted in me to have his back. If you're reading this TT: I'm really sorry I let you down. Your death will not be in vain. | ||
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On August 03 2017 03:12 beentheredonethat wrote: 2) I hope you realize that my vote on TT was absolutely irrelevant. The only reason I voted him was because I didn't want to eat the "BTDT WHY DIDN'T YOU COMMIT ON TT" blame if he would have flipped scum. 3) And why is that relevant to what I said at point three? Your vote on TT was *absolutely necessary* to get him lynched. | ||
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On August 03 2017 03:01 Tumblewood wrote: the first three people you listed are in my reread category because i don't totally remember anymore why i read them the way i do. (except i think btdt was town for being frustrated at being ignored.) i just explained my copcake read. soooooo Alright. Just feel like I'd need a few more reads from you to get a better read on you. Hope you get there soon | ||
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On August 03 2017 03:04 beentheredonethat wrote: Felt like he just wanted to lynch anything he could. ??? How can it "feel" like that when I said LITERALLY that I'm fine with Damdred and Tictock and NOT FINE with DF? How is that random? How is that "lynch anything he could"? I was there at EoD and I tried to determine which lynch would be better since I was/am certain that DF is not scum, so I evaluated Damdred and Tictock. How can it be that I left the impression of being absolutely random in my lynch targets? Also the shenanigans seemed very forced and random. if you actually read my EoD, you can clearly see that my shennanies on CopCake came as a direct reaction to his play and to me thinking that TT will flip town because nobody answered my question about who is actually opposing the TT lynch. It wasn't a surprise that TT was town but even in retrospect I think it was the correct move. You forgot that you wanted to lynch HF? | ||
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On August 03 2017 03:26 beentheredonethat wrote: I didn't want to lynch HF. I wanted (kinda want) to remove him from the game. It's absolutely annoying to have someone talk in an unreadable way, especially when on mobile. Lynch != Removal. Lynch = I case him, I think he's flipping scum. Removal = get this guy out of the game because it's annoying as fuck to play with russian letters. On August 02 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote: Actually let's lynch Holyflare 1. the russian stuff is super weird 2. if the russian stuff is mod-induced, it still sucks 3. "contributions" 4. in no way he's doing what town HF is doing normally 5. all the discussions are without HF although he's in a game woa that's actually a decent case. | ||
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On August 03 2017 03:31 beentheredonethat wrote: I hope you realize the seriousness in that case. I hope you see the big effort I put in. I hope you realize that the part you bolded acknowledges the sheer amount of work I put in to build that "case" and I hope my follow up posts in the context of that case show how hard I tried to lynch Holyflare all day long. Or, you shut the fuck up and go back to imdumbCountry because that's clearly where you're trying to flee from right now Classy coming from the "stop calling me bad" dude. Sweet irony. | ||
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On August 03 2017 03:46 beentheredonethat wrote: You're right. That was unnecessary. Shame it was planned: the fact that you're poking on that instead of actually responding to what I say makes it pretty obvious that you're scum trying to tilt me . I'm trying to tilt you because it makes you show your true colors, making you easier to read. | ||
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On August 03 2017 03:44 beentheredonethat wrote: So. Here are my reads: Town: Koshi, darthfoley, Damdred, rsoultin, VayneAuthority (yes that's Damdred up there with rsoultin. Let's see if it holds up. No I can't explain this read, it's like EUREKA.) Scum: Ruxxar CopCake Rest: Tumblewood Rels Holyflare Superbia Conversion no particular order You think I'm scum with copcake? | ||
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On August 03 2017 05:37 Rels wrote: am I seeing things or are you calling her town here in that last sentence She's scum. | ||
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On August 03 2017 05:40 Rels wrote: why did you call her a policy lynch then ? What did you want to mean ? That she should be lynched regardless of alignment. Even if you think that she's town, you should lynch her for her bad cases and faulty logic. | ||
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Now that my top 2 scum reads are dead, I need to start from scratch with a different strategy. | ||
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On August 03 2017 06:56 darthfoley wrote: + Show Spoiler + darthfoley btdt ruxxar koshi hf conversion va damdred rels tw not in any particular order. just so i can visualize who's still in the game. although i admit i got to 9 players and forgot that tw is actually playing. The problem is that everyone looks towny this game. I could go into everyone profile and say yeah.. that guy has some top notch posts. | ||
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based on activity(and people I feel like are floating by) likely suspects are tw damdred conversion va in no particular order. | ||
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On August 03 2017 07:09 Tumblewood wrote: i'm guessing mafia had 2kp n1 + rsoul shot someone? imma have to see if rsoul was scumreading super or copcake during the night. did anyone receive a wheel of fortune item? You have so many posts discussing items lately. Why? | ||
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On August 03 2017 07:25 Conversion wrote: I've said twice now it's not a cure. Not gonna repeat myself again Oh hello there, that was a quick response! Can you say in english what you said to rsoul? I don't think the translation did it justice. | ||
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On August 03 2017 07:28 darthfoley wrote: i haven't really watched the matrix but doesn't the red pill equate to getting more information? maybe that information came at a price (i.e. learning more about the game, but having to speak Russian in return, effectively stopping her from revealing things?) idk, it's just mechanics speculation at this point. the more sobering fact is that i'm 0/4 so far in this game. There's gotta be something relating rsoul to HF. It's likely to be a common mechanic causing the affliction. The question is why rsoul was killed and not HF. I don't understand. I mean, you would think that she was incapacitated enough already forced to speak russian, why bother to shoot her too unless the russian disease gave her some kind of benefit? | ||
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On August 03 2017 07:34 VayneAuthority wrote: well that is a tragedy, Copcake had an incredibly strong role and the potential to obtain LSD. fuck the information I got about my role I already predicted anyway so it was completely useless. Didnt receive anything. Why is LSD so important? I can't think of any uses for LSD that is going to be helpful for town. All uses of LSD seem to be for a persons own benefit. | ||
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On August 03 2017 07:45 Tumblewood wrote: ummm how about because it was just night, when role and item actions are performed. put 2 and 2 together Let me rephrase: what did you want to do with the items? Did you have some ulterior motive or did you just want to chit chat about them? | ||
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On August 03 2017 07:47 Tumblewood wrote: might have something to do with hf giving rsoul border privileges? He said that was RPing. | ||
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On August 03 2017 07:33 Conversion wrote: dunno just felt like it when I was at work. I told rsoul I was giving her a choice and hope she made the right decision Can you not give the same decision to HF? | ||
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Giving a choice.. matrix... red pill or blue pill... you are morpheus. [B] On August 02, 2017 23:54 Conversion wrote: [/ B] I give you a choice sounded Le madame. One is the opportunity to liberate yourself ... "illness". You could exist peace, perhaps the world is not history, you do not have a tie language tied chains. Another option is to indicate the status of the current event. You went on the second day, lived your life, and those who hope to win and will not listen to your words. Please hurry the answer. Only confusing created the original message, do not hesitate, do not be afraid that by that time. I trust you to make the right choice. | ||
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On August 03 2017 07:59 Conversion wrote: I can use my power on anyone, like most other people can. What's your power since you're so nosy? If I told you that I'd put myself in danger. | ||
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On August 03 2017 08:31 Tumblewood wrote: i think i was pretty clear, but i'll rephrase: my motive for inquiring about items is to figure out what the hell is going on. for example, i was hoping someone would learn about the matches, because everyone has them, so it would help to know what the fuck they do You are Miss Fortune of town. Powers: Wheel of fortune: Each phase you must run a wheel of fortune. It has four items: - LSD - Torch - Foam extinguisher - A bottle of Vodka Should give you a clue. | ||
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On August 03 2017 09:46 darthfoley wrote: Koshi and HF surviving? No way mafia doesn't use at least 1 kp on them right? Didn't target either? So spooky Yes "spooky" indeed. | ||
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On August 03 2017 09:41 Tumblewood wrote: after rereading i feel safe to call btdt town. don't know who i'm overlooking though - maybe koshi or hf? You feel like right now our highest chance to find scum is between koshi and HF? | ||
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You have no reads. All you care about is game mechanics. You don't try to solve the game. ##vote tumblewood | ||
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I feel like you're the only one I can trust. | ||
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There's scum in there for sure. Interestingly this also makes DF more likely to be scum. A DF flip would provide a lot of information. | ||
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On August 03 2017 17:06 Rels wrote: lol that's a bad thought in a roled mafia game. Hosts make sure that doesn't work. M. Smith was a bad guy in matrix but was town. We also had a town Kim Jong Un. This sort of logic doesn't matter, it's just fluff. Thanks for setting my head straight. | ||
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On August 03 2017 17:09 Rels wrote: when in doubt after a weird night, reread the dead players filter. They were killed for a reason. It's very unlikely all of them were killed by scum (3 KP seems like too much), but very likely that at least some of them were. I think rsoul was probably a mafia kill. Getting the russian disease and then getting killed is at least providing a narrative of mafia wanting to remove this person. I remember her saying "I was silenced" in russian as well. | ||
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I mean HF is one of the best players of mafia, it only makes sense that mafia would pick him. The chance of him getting picked by some random chance by a mod setup is pretty low. Which also leads me to think that HF is town. So I think copcake might actually have been right in that mafia knew their roles from the start and had the first 24h to actually perform some action(choosing someone to give the russian disease). | ||
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On August 03 2017 17:54 beentheredonethat wrote: I wanted to shoot darthfoley because I was paranoid but switched to CopCake. I killed her and now I'm fairly useless because my role said as long as I shoot scum, I get refunded. What a coincidence, since I also shot her. No refunds for me though. | ||
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You're right. I shot superbia. I used vodka + matches on copcake. | ||
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On August 03 2017 18:13 beentheredonethat wrote: And why exactly did you claim to have shot CopCake? I didn't want to reveal that I had used vodka + matches. | ||
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On August 03 2017 18:32 Holyflare wrote: Трахал Ruxxar. Sorry but, I was so sure that copcake and superbia were scum so I killed them both | ||
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My PM says I'm a "Sneaky fucking russian". it might be a hidden property of my alignment. | ||
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Yes, ##learn role, but I can't do that and use my gun at the same time. I chose to use my gun. | ||
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On August 03 2017 18:40 Koshi wrote: The guy is untrackable and just killed Superbia who was another strong townread of mine and probably others. He panicked when I said he killed Superbia because he thought I also knew that. HE LIED ABOUT how he used his KP. He used sure KP on the more townread person. He is untrackable. He is hiding his role. Come on. I used KP on my top 2 scum reads in the game. | ||
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On August 03 2017 18:37 beentheredonethat wrote: Ruxxar has said he's 1-shot vigi, he clearly isn't, and he clearly doesn't want to reveal more information about his role. I absolutely think he's bad town. I have literally no powers besides my gun. I have the bottle of vodka I started with(now used up) I also have some LSD. I did not interpret the "Sneak fucking russian" as being untrackable, I thought it was just part of the fluff. "You are Boris the Blade, aka Boris the sneaky fucking Russian. You know how to shoot, You know how to drink. And somehow you have also ended up with drugs." | ||
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On August 03 2017 18:43 Koshi wrote: Also this looks like a really bad attempt on figuring out the fucking night kills if you believe YOU ACTUALLY SHOT BOTH CC AND SUPERBIA Then why would Rsoul have shot one of them? I did not want to reveal my role, since I'll get NKed by mafia for being confirmed town. | ||
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On August 03 2017 18:36 Koshi wrote: You DIDN'T BECAUSE I WATCHED CC. I saw CC visit CC and saw btdt visit CC. That means you are untrackable but not know it yourself. Probably need to learn it. ##vote Ruxxar This makes me scum how? | ||
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In hindsight it was very stupid. I deserve to get lynched for fucking that up. Sorry to copcake and superbia for thinking you were scum. Had an exciting role this game, and managed to mess it up in the end. gg. | ||
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On August 03 2017 19:01 Holyflare wrote: Увлекательная роль? Всего 1 выстрел vig lol? 2 KP. Vodka + matches. | ||
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On August 03 2017 19:04 Holyflare wrote: Вы не начали с матчей, хотя вы не голосовали btdt. Водка и матчи тоже не играют роли? Почему вы не поете на небесах, что btdt является мафией I received matches at the start of the night. I don't know from whom. I don't think btdt is mafia. | ||
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On August 03 2017 19:06 Holyflare wrote: Вы думаете, что Райан внезапно изменился с того, что ему понравилось только 1 максимум в игре, чтобы внезапно дать бесконечный город kp всем? Yes, it seems that way. We are just as likely to shoot town as mafia as you can see. | ||
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On August 03 2017 19:14 Holyflare wrote: Могут ли btdt и ruxxar быть мафией? Никто не хочет видеть, как другой переворачивается, и это глупо, как ебать. I'm not mafia and btdt is not mafia. Like I said I think mafia are in tw/conversion/damdred/va and possibly df. People who just scoot by without getting noticed. | ||
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On August 03 2017 18:45 Koshi wrote: btdt looks so fucking bad with his vote on HF. Ruxxar literally claims mafia in the thread and it is proven with game mechanics and he wants to lynch within HF + DF. That's like too bad to be bad town. Nothing is proven, and I'm not claiming mafia. | ||
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On August 03 2017 19:18 Holyflare wrote: Я никогда в жизни не верю, что Рейн идет от симпатии до 1 кп, чтобы иметь бесконечные kp и kp предметы и виг. Никогда. Вы не можете убедить меня, что вы оба город. В этом мире нет шанса, что Рейн внезапно переключил персонажей на какого-то оружейного маньяка. Никогда. You better believe it, since it's the truth that I am a vigi. | ||
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I doubt that vodka + matches is an instakill. I noticed that copcakes power has the possibility of producing a foam extinguisher which can probably be used to defend yourself if you are put on fire. | ||
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On August 03 2017 19:23 Holyflare wrote: Тогда btdt - мафия !!!! Но ты не линчу его! Это потому, что если он переворачивает город, вы подтверждаете мафию !! In a game where people are forced to speak russian you are going to talk about balance of game mechanics? Chimone brew. | ||
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On August 03 2017 19:56 Rels wrote: yep this is the main thing. It makes 0 sense to do that. I know, haven't had a power role in a long time. Don't mind getting lynched over it. I've learned my lesson for next time. | ||
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On August 03 2017 20:12 Rels wrote: Yep I think you're scum. But let's talk. Do you have reasons to scumread any of the people you listed above apart from inactivity ? It's a pretty weak reason to scumread 4 people. Meh, it's more of what they havent done than what they have done. The fact that they are all voting ticktock over DF. The fact that Rsoul was the only mafia NK and rsoul wanted to kill DF. I was debating actually shooting DF, since his flip would've been the objectively best shot giving the most information. If DF is scum, then there's a very high chance that mafia voted for TT. | ||
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On August 03 2017 20:27 beentheredonethat wrote: Let's just not auto to Ruxxar this day. Let's have wagons. Why bother? If you think I'm scum then vote for me. | ||
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On August 03 2017 20:35 Conversion wrote: ruxxar how did you even get matches to do your vodka + matches KP? weren't you asking for them earlier in the game in D1? I don't know. Someone must've given them to me. I got a PM that said "you have received a box of matches" at the beginning of the night time. | ||
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On August 03 2017 21:03 Conversion wrote: Can anyone confirm giving a box of matches to ruxxar during D1? I thought giving items was a night action, and the only person who "gave" matches to ruxxar ended up dying. IDK man information from your 2KP doesn't line up right now and that's not making you look good I also thought it was a night only action. It doesn't make sense to me either. | ||
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On August 03 2017 21:04 Rels wrote: K so you think these 4 are likely to contain scum if DF is scum. But in your list they're more scum than DF: and you're saying they're scummy mainly IF DF is scum. So that doesn't work. Nah, they're scummy on their own, but even more scummy if DF is scum. | ||
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On August 03 2017 21:07 Rels wrote: like, you're drawing an association between DF and the lazy voters, but you didn't shoot DF to verify it, nor you scumread DF very strongly. There is a disconnect here. Points to you being partners TBH. The textbook play was to shoot DF, but I thought I was going to be the hero and prove that I had the best scum reads LUL. | ||
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On August 03 2017 21:15 Rels wrote: well we get back to the original question then. Why, apart from inactivity ? Cause that was my question and you answered "The fact that they are all voting ticktock over DF. The fact that Rsoul was the only mafia NK and rsoul wanted to kill DF." It's a general theme: -Inactivity -Forgettable(blending in) -No will to solve the game when they show up(not making any waves or pushing people) -Weak reads/no reads -Excuses to be afk In my eyes they might as well not even be in the game. I rate thread engagement very highly as town favored. You don't need to be super active, but at least when you are here, talk about the actual topics that are important and current in the game. Throw out some original thoughts. Don't be afraid to push your scum reads. I don't see that in any of those. | ||
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On August 03 2017 21:14 Conversion wrote: "Any item can be given to other person. You may use an item (or a combination of) or give one to another player AND use one power (aka if you have a night power you may do something regarding items AND use the power aswell during the night). Giving or using items counts as a visit." This makes it seem like a night action. You forgot this part: "Items can be used on any phase given the conditions on them are met..." | ||
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On August 03 2017 21:28 Rels wrote: that's the most generic thing you can use to scumread someone. Can you do a case on the dude you think is most likely scum ? A real case, no generic "he's AFK and has weak read" stuff. Like for example, Damdred AFKing is NOT scum indicative. He's known to AFK recently. But him putting a lot of effort to convince rsoul THEN rsoul dies and he AFK again IS scum indicative. I'll see if I can find any specifics. Honestly didn't look too hard at people outside of superbia / copcake, felt really good about them being mafia. Or at least 1 / 2. | ||
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On August 03 2017 21:36 Holyflare wrote: How can you be aware of me when I was attacked by 2 forces of the 1st day and handed you the mafia on a silver platter, fighting against my gigantic aspiration for afuku and boycotting this game? ????? LUL. These translations are hilarious. I see you keep saying that you had 2 restrictions put on you. Those two restrictions were what? 1) Speak russian. 2) News paper boy? | ||
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On August 03 2017 21:39 Conversion wrote: because reasons don't worry about it just play ur game I want to hear those reasons. | ||
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On August 03 2017 22:04 Damdred wrote: Я вполне уверен в разочарования в связи с игрой в настоящее время. Это действительно недостатками мои возможности выступить в любой способ пока я прихожу домой я elieve. В настоящее время я думаю morpheous - судите но вкус не является свидетельством. Я думаю copcake возможно была на то я не уверены будет иметь для чтения есть фильтры и получить обратно к вам. Будет пытаться должность в restbof satbif у вас возникли вопросы Oh jesus. | ||
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On August 03 2017 22:04 Damdred wrote: Я вполне уверен в разочарования в связи с игрой в настоящее время. Это действительно недостатками мои возможности выступить в любой способ пока я прихожу домой я elieve. В настоящее время я думаю morpheous - судите но вкус не является свидетельством. Я думаю copcake возможно была на то я не уверены будет иметь для чтения есть фильтры и получить обратно к вам. Будет пытаться должность в restbof satbif у вас возникли вопросы Typing in russian on a phone.. oh man. | ||
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On August 03 2017 22:14 VayneAuthority wrote: So ruxxar does have drugs. thats probably the only thing that makes him like 10% town, but i kinda already knew that. everything else points to scum though, I was planning on voting him even before I saw the whole KP mess. We can afford to mislynch right if Koshi is lying? It's too bad ruxxar scumreads me and didnt give me his drugs or game would be a lot easier, oh well. PRAISE ARSTOTZKA If you had told me what use they had I might've given them to you. | ||
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On August 03 2017 22:19 VayneAuthority wrote: you're most likely dead now so i suppose it doesnt matter, but it sends me into a translucent state where I temporarily regain my memory but its still foggy. Gives me 2 players, 1 guaranteed town 1 guaranteed scum so 50/50 and would help innocent child some one if we lynch correctly. Thanks. I'll give you the LSD now. Expect to receive it after EoD. | ||
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On August 03 2017 22:24 VayneAuthority wrote: but you see now why I cant explain that? Im going to get insta NKed for that so you just needed to trust me. Either you get lynched/are mafia and lying about this or im dead next phase anyway. Pretty pointless now Using LSD for you is a power that consumes an item right? It counts as using a power, not an item, correct? | ||
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On August 03 2017 22:30 VayneAuthority wrote: No, its automatic. If somebody ever gives me LSD it is automatically consumed without me using up a learn role or learn item for that phase. Excellent. Let's catch some fucking scum tonight. | ||
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On August 03 2017 22:33 VayneAuthority wrote: What are your limitations, can you give item to me after day ends or i wont get it until the next day? because theres no way i live 2 more days. Let's just say I didn't reveal everything about my role.... | ||
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On August 03 2017 22:45 VayneAuthority wrote: yea I give ruxxar like 5% chance town 95% mafia. He even voted off wagon, i just started looking at the votes yesterday. I have no idea what hes talking about or why he would consider helping though as mafia. it seems like bs that you have 4/5 caveats to your role when all I have is info and 1 potential power. It's alright, I'll still help you if you vote for me. I don't blame you. | ||
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On August 03 2017 22:50 Damdred wrote: Но почему бы RUXX (Russian Industrial Leaders убить его верхней части судите читать sxum? Не существует способа узнать существует watcher и будет делать гораздо более смысле убить Вести Земли Обетованной и отбросы с multiole kp в такой небольшой игры кажется немного глупым, но город имеет много kp до сих пор в I want to understand what this post means, but I cant. Someone help me. | ||
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On August 03 2017 22:57 Damdred wrote: Он утверждая untrackable хотя и в прошлом месяце если ive никогда города, что роль до. Так да только плохие отбросы играть? С возможно некоторые поверит нам. lsd вероятно, Русе, чтобы получить давление выкл ему. Like I said, I've already accepted my death. Helping town is the least I can do to amend probably my biggest fuckup as a mafia player. | ||
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On August 03 2017 23:37 Rels wrote: if HF does a video, does he have to speak russian ? :thinking: Obviously, and he has to be holding a newspaper. | ||
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Town: BTDT. Koshi. Rels. HF. VA. RuXx. Mafia pool: Conversion DF. TW. Damdred. You guys should be able to figure this out. I'll read filters when I get home and see if my opinion changes. | ||
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On August 03 2017 23:49 Conversion wrote: I mean what's it going to take for me to convince you I'm town do you want me to spill every detail about my role and why I'm still suspicious of you HF? We have enough people in front of you getting lynched. Confirming yourself town is the best thing you can do, even revealing your role. Don't be stupid like me and fuck it up for yourself. | ||
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On August 03 2017 23:57 Conversion wrote: so either HF is lying or someone fucked with my powers because my night action was to visit HF I believe you. | ||
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Why would it be a hidden attribute of rsouls role to know that morpheus is in the game? What value does that piece of knowledge bring to her? I assume that it was added for a reason, and for a reason that is supposed to give you an advantage. I'm trying to see the significance of it, but I don't get it. | ||
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On August 04 2017 00:10 ruXxar wrote: Question: Why would it be a hidden attribute of rsouls role to know that morpheus is in the game? What value does that piece of knowledge bring to her? I assume that it was added for a reason, and for a reason that is supposed to give you an advantage. I'm trying to see the significance of it, but I don't get it. On second thought, I see why now. It could be used to decipher who morpheus is if he's hinting at his role, so you know not to shoot him. | ||
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On August 04 2017 00:20 Rels wrote: this is 1h30 after deadline, today during D2. You're saying that you gave a choice to rsoul. Now you're changing your story to say you targeted HF ? You are not reading it right rels. She says that she previously told rsoul that she had a choice and hoped she would make the right decision, later she made another statement to rsoul telling her to forget it. You guys are pushing a non-issue. Stop it. | ||
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On August 04 2017 00:25 Rels wrote: no. I don't know what conclusion to make now but it's too confusing to let it go like that. rsoul died with a red pill in her inventory. Dude has a weird sentence at the start of the day that can be interpreted either way. I'm very honestly convinced that it means what I think it means. You can scum read him for other things, but not for that statement. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so. | ||
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On August 04 2017 00:27 Damdred wrote: Мнению, никто не имеют один о ва столь открытым о его способности и лсд? Почему он свидетельствуют о том, что Дружелюбный когда отбросы можно остановить его? VA is never getting lynched today, just forget it. | ||
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On August 04 2017 00:36 Rels wrote: ruxxar / DF / TW You're missing a scum. Who's your next in line? | ||
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On August 04 2017 00:34 darthfoley wrote: I'm on my phone and cba to read most of the Russian stuff anymore. Ruxxars story doesn't make sense and I don't like his explanation. Koshi with the good bait it seems. I learned nothing last night about my role. I'm thinking about doing things this phase #vote ruxxar I don't like my story either. It's really bad. But it is what it is. | ||
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He was the counter wagon to a town lynch and the people voting him are solid town. ##vote DF I feel good about this. | ||
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It's very possible damdred is mafia and he did it to himself to avoid suspicion. There's no reason why it shouldn't be possible for mafia to use it on themselves. I also really dislike that damdred wants to entertain the possibility of lynching VA. It looks really scummy. | ||
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On August 04 2017 01:03 darthfoley wrote: And you felt good about it last night apparently. But you didn't do it? CopCake was a relatively easy lynch yet you supposedly chose to shoot her instead of me. LoL I shot superbia, not copcake. Yes, my emotions got the better of me. Now I'm trying to correct that. | ||
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On August 04 2017 01:04 Holyflare wrote: Так что, если проклятие - нео-rsoultin, цель должна была убить его. Мы просто принимаем damdred - это город? Это еще один механик, если он есть. Автоматически один игрок играет против города. Я полагаю, что damdred - это ту же роль, но другое имя. Морфиус, будучи городом, также просто не кажется мне вероятным. Просто с баланса. Особенно все kp вокруг. Почему преобразование сосредоточилось только на русских людях? Conversions power definitely has some connection with the Russian disease. Maybe when the pill is consumed you die but still have some out of game abilities. My guess is that you get a hidden ability to vote that is revealed at EOD. | ||
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On August 04 2017 01:30 darthfoley wrote: Oh btdt shot CC. Remind me why you lied again? Here's the recap and my thoughts: I shot superbia. Vodka + fire on copcake. 1) I didn't want to reveal anything at first, due to becoming confirmed town. 2) btdt claimed that he shot cop-cake. At this I point I also claim, that I shot copcake, since I wouldn't be alone. 3) Koshi points out that I didn't visit copcake and as such I couldn't have shot her. It's at this point I had forgotten that using an item counts as a visit, and as such thought he knew he had caught me in a lie. 4) I admit the truth and told him I shot superbia and use vodka + fire on copcake. 5) They don't believe me again I said I absolutely did. 6) I get asked if I'm untrackable. It's not explicitly stated in my PM, but role description says I'm a "Sneaky fucking Russian". The thought never crossed my mind, but it absolutely makes sense that it's a hidden ability that I could use my learn power to know about. 7) At this point the damage is already done and cannot be undone. The major fuckups here was: 1) the counter claim, which I posted two seconds after reading btdts post. 2) lying about which actions I did. I did not want to reveal that I had used the second KP through items. Don't remember what reason I had for that, it was probably trash anyway. 3) when getting caught off guard by koshi I made another hasty response, while instead I should've stuck with my gun story and not fuck it up further. In the end, I did everything wrong and this pretty much comes back to me posting 2 seconds after reading something while I should spend at least 1 minute thinking things over. Tldr: Should've listened to Geript. | ||
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On August 04 2017 01:33 Holyflare wrote: ??? What? | ||
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On August 04 2017 02:05 darthfoley wrote: This Russian speaking thing is a terrible mechanic and makes the game 500% less fun Agreed. | ||
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"Not getting confirmed town" is the worst reason in history to not claim. Especially in this game. You'll understand what I mean later | ||
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On August 04 2017 02:04 darthfoley wrote: Meh this game is fucky and idk what the hell to believe Certainly you believe that in scum? | ||
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On August 04 2017 02:16 Rels wrote: lol. TBH apart from that bit about Superbia kill making you confirmed town (??), this process makes sense from the perspective of you being scum. p: I know, I'm really good at being scum. It's such a shame I always roll town. | ||
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On August 04 2017 02:25 Damdred wrote: Возможно вместо самосуда в России будет подлый сегодня мы должны Линч lsd пользователя. нечто о том, как исполняющий обязанности hebis rigjt теперь кажется таким образом ко мне, и никоим образом не он утверждает хотел бы это, прежде чем он сможет его использовать. Его так против города может, вероятно, плёнки. Why do you insist on lynching VA? His role is super town favored. I'm going to give him the LSD, then we'll see what he can do with it. If you dont like it, you can lynch him later. | ||
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On August 04 2017 02:33 Damdred wrote: Если ва - город он никогда не будет иметь возможность использовать его способности и сейчас, и если он не мы будем probabky быть в зарубежная музыка в любом случае завтра. Его вещь не имеет смысла от кого-то пытается использовать его способности и как его действия нит смысла, в закрытом setup, вы должны всегда обработать его действия If he's town he's going to get NKed by mafia, end of story. You literally don't have to do anything and he's going to die. If he's alive at the end of the night, you can lynch him as 90% guaranteed scum. | ||
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On August 04 2017 02:32 Holyflare wrote: Кто-нибудь в этой игре даже русский? Это не совпадение, что ruxxar - российский шпион, и я вынужден говорить по-русски, не так ли? LOL HF. I would not want the russian disease on my worst enemy. It's so fun to play with you, why would I want to silence you with russian crap. | ||
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On August 04 2017 02:37 Holyflare wrote: Damdred, почему вы обеспокоены тем, что мафия ruxxar собирается дать предмет мафии VA ???.? !!!!!!! | ||
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On August 04 2017 05:06 Koshi wrote: But I can't be that hero. Lying about shooting a townie and getting caught is fatal. And there was no reason to lie here as town. And he was steering town in the wrong direction with his analysis of the night kill. Making it uncertain it was rsoultin was killed by mafia. Which is anti town and pushes mafia agenda. Do the right thing and vote for me koshi. Not lynching me would go against all conventions of good mafia play. | ||
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I have to say, despite low activity, there's nothing suspicious besides his last comment. Everything is there and accounted for, no strange inconsistencies that I picked up on. Flipping TW is not a good idea. Next is DF then damdred. | ||
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DF is either a really good mafia player or he's town. + Natural flow of thoughts in his filter + Good read development + Not afraid to stand his ground + Iniquisitve and bold. + Active and engaged. I could pick out all the things in his filter, but you can just read it yourself. I think DF is town despite what I thought earlier. If you are mafia then well played this game. | ||
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On August 04 2017 05:33 beentheredonethat wrote: Do it. Should scum!Ruxxar survive due to that => nominate btdt once more for worst town performance 2017 award Should town!Ruxxar survive due to that => nominate ruxxar for worst town performance 2017 award win win No need for a nomination, just give me the prize already. | ||
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1) Makes an assumption on something he doesn't believe in. Why bring it up? On July 30 2017 07:36 Damdred wrote: It's interesting, llike if we assume mafia know they are on a team (which is a huge assumltion and likely false). We would know somewhat that rels would be town hopefully Why is it "hopefully" that rels should be town? Do you have any bias for whether you want him to be town? And if It's such a low chance that it's true why mention it? I really dislike this post. 2) Either you think that scum knows their alignment or you dont. The first part of your sentence doesnt not connect logically with the second part. On July 30 2017 22:56 Damdred wrote: Since most of us if not all of us do not know alignments, there is 0 way we can play the game until we do. Unless we just rng the lynch onto btdt Why just lynch btdt? This makes no sense, how is that tied into alignments in your previous sentence? 3) So 100% of town didn't get a role you say. Which means you belive that mafia got their roles right? On July 31 2017 08:07 Damdred wrote: I am not tumble but I feel like taking a crack at this. 1) Honestly we shoudl forget about the role shenanigans that is going on and we should just try to play normally, there is a lot of times that theme'd games just devolve into a mechanics guessing game and town loses because of it. 2) Until we got our pm i think we can throw out, or ignore it. Unless a real argument could be made when as far as we know 100% of town didn't know what was going on and everything was trolling to start with. On July 31 2017 08:34 Damdred wrote: We can't play on what ifs however, and more than likely mafia did not know any more than town did that nobody would or would not know alignment. And yes its a good logical conclusion that if scum knew its alignment they would start with I am town instead of IDK whats going on exactly here. These two posts directly contradict each other, showing an inconsistency in his thought pattern on the early alignments. In all of my posts up until now you can see him waffling and being inconsistent on this topic. This suggest TMI. 4) He says VA is town for being involved in game mechanics and coming from a "helping town perspective". On August 02 2017 04:05 Damdred wrote: VA, 8/10 certainty that he is town here. He is mechanically involved and interested in the game (matches), and through this mechanivs talk it feels like he is teuthfully trying to save town from something that would be negative for it. He also has a couple of whatbI would term as goos logical steps and reevaluation. One would be where i said tt and rux woild never be scum togeter when previousky he thought they were both scum. I think the way hebis aporoaching the game is both townybin thought process and seeming to come from a helping town motivation. Yet later when VA explains what his ability does, and it's revealed that it's super town favored, he wants to lynch him?? For the exact same reason he was town-reading him for in the first place? That doesn't make sense. --- Post russian stuff --- Not going to quote stuff here but mainly it's about his insistence on lynching VA. VA revealed that he has a very powerful town favored role, and damdred is very concerned with wanting to lynch him. This is absolutely not a towny reaction. VA is either: 1) Going to use his role and reveal whether he is telling the truth. 2) Get night killed by mafia. Either way the VA situation solves itself tomorrow no matter what. Lynching VA today makes no sense at all from a town perspective. ---- In damdreds favor are a couple posts explaining his emotional outbreak and also being a bit inquisitive of BTDT, but mostly minor things. He's definitely a better lynch that TW and Darth foley. I'm giving giving damdred a scum lean and moving my vote. ##vote damdred | ||
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There was one post from damdred that I found interesting and not sure if translated correctly from russian: On August 04 2017 00:39 Damdred wrote: Probably Tina, blue and red tablets and gave in blue pills. Make sure Im morpheous started with as well, I started with both as well. Can you explain this post damdred, because it's potentially very important | ||
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Some thoughts after a long nights sleep: The Russian thing still sucks. If damdred applied it to himself as mafia then.... I don't know it doesn't make much sense. I don't feel like I can properly evaluate it but why would you give it to yourself? Besides that, almost everyone seems confident with lynching me. Which is fine. But from your POV there should be at least 2 more scum, and there's a dangerously low level of scum hunting right now. When I flip town you're not going to have any more information on who's mafia. My agenda for the day is going to find at least 2 more scum, maybe 3 if I find one better than damdred. I really want to evaluate HF, but I'm not going to bother with all the Russian. If he's mafia then fine, I'll blame it on shitty game mechanics. I'm curious how koshi knew I shot superbia. The tracker ability wouldn't have told him that. It also means he must've been sure that rsoul was a scum NK. TMI from koshi? will look into it. Will be at work so don't expect cases until evening. | ||
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On August 04 2017 10:36 darthfoley wrote: Nvm I'm tired. Will do it tomorrow. Ruxxar is massaging my ego too effectively I'm glad you feel that way | ||
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First rsoul gets the russian disease. Then she gets nked. Rsoul was not really pushing anyone to the point of being a threat besides damdred, so why was she silenced and killed? --- The only one she seriously wanted to lynch was damdred. Damdred responded and managed to win her back. A possibility however is that damdred is afraid that since rsoul knows him so well, she'd eventually look past his faked emotions and see that he really is scum. --- If we disregard that, and look at after the silencing, why go through with killing her? In my eyes HF is a more dangerous player to mafia than rsoul is. If HF and Rsoul are both town and they both have the russian disease, why is rsoul killed instead of HF? The possibility remains that HF is scum and maybe even the source of the disease. Could also be he is 3P. Either way, I now kinda wish I had shot HF beause I think it would clear up a lot regarding the source of the russian disease. Seeing as he was the first source of it, and he received it on D1 during the day, it's impossible to tell if it was mafia that infected him, or if it's part of his role as mafia/3P to actually spread it. I can see both sides being true, but it's still bothering me. | ||
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Silencing and killing seems like 2 separate and redundant actions. If you've done the first, there's no need for the second. This seems to suggest that perhaps there is a different source for the disease and the killing, or that the killing was not due to mafia at all. I can not see how killing rsoul was in any way optimal for mafia due to her play and her already russian disease. This brings me to think that it's her role and powers they were afraid of. It might be something she crumbed and her interaction with conversion. The fact that conversion offered something to rsoul could be part of the reason why she's dead. | ||
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On August 04 2017 19:10 Holyflare wrote: Damdred (2): beentheredonethat, ruXxar Вы говорите, что в городе есть ваш бесконечный KP, rsoultin kp, а также теперь Ruxxar kp? Почему вы голосуете у фургона? I'm voting on damdred because he's the most scummy person in my mind right now. | ||
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On August 04 2017 20:30 Holyflare wrote: Лучший случай прямо сейчас на двух других игроков, которые я сделал. Damdred быть мафией, потому что он не думает о вас и не является мафией. Если вы город, это похлопывание, которое проклят мафией, потому что он относится к вам как к ошибке, а не к приятелям мафии. Затем сообщение TW. Это так неестественно. Вероятно, очень вероятная мафия тоже. Yes the TW message is a huge red flag. It's like aha! I caught you! ... then nothing. What's even more suspect is that no one else seems to be picking up on it LOL. Why does no one care? Blows my mind. | ||
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On August 04 2017 20:32 Holyflare wrote: То, что делает вас самой мафией, - это просто дико выбрасывать городские чтения вместо того, чтобы искать мотивацию мафии. Я опубликовал два хороших примера, и вы просто проигнорировали, чтобы попытаться заставить вас голосовать за вас. I'm looking for mafia motivation, and it's really hard. In this game, more than any I have played, I see town in almost every person. It's so ambigious and with all the roles and 3P it's really easy to blend in stuff. Like, I can't even get a read on since I don't understand half of what you're saying. Looking for mafia motivations when a lot of people have secondary win conditions is like ???? | ||
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On August 04 2017 20:30 Holyflare wrote: Лучший случай прямо сейчас на двух других игроков, которые я сделал. Damdred быть мафией, потому что он не думает о вас и не является мафией. Если вы город, это похлопывание, которое проклят мафией, потому что он относится к вам как к ошибке, а не к приятелям мафии. Затем сообщение TW. Это так неестественно. Вероятно, очень вероятная мафия тоже. Yes, I think some people are treating me like I'm not mafia at all. Especially damdred didn't even seem to comment on my fake claim at all and just jumped straight at my interaction with VA, who he was previously townreading for caring about game mechanics. I even told him once, and yet he still wants to lynch VA. Why is he afraid that VA is going to live when it's a 100% non-issue that will resolve itself automatically? The only thing he can be afraid of is that the LSD gives some kind of different power. Maybe he is afraid VA is a mafia that gets a role check ability with LSD. Either way, there's way bigger problems to worry about than that. | ||
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On August 04 2017 21:11 Rels wrote: Like ruxxar I'm really sorry if you're town 'cause it would mean you're giving your best and you're probably the dude with the most posts today. But I don't see why town would lie about that. That just makes no sense. I know it doesn't. I'm not sad to get lynched. Please don't speak ill of me after I'm dead, I know it was really bad | ||
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On August 04 2017 21:05 Rels wrote: the only goodf thing in the two cases against Damdred is the bit about how he wants to flip VA. ALl the rest I can see him doing from a perspective of a confused town. I really don't understand why he wants to flip VA that much though. Even before ruxxar it seems like. The other thing that have been bothering me is that he became russian. Not to brag, but Koshi or me were better targets if the goal of the russian giver is to stop good town from talking too much. In that contexte IDK why Damdred was targeted. This is a good point. There's no reason for mafia to give damdred the russian disease. There's also no reason to give rsoul the russian disease AND kill her. I don't think the russian disease and mafia is related. | ||
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On August 04 2017 21:06 beentheredonethat wrote: Ruxxar is town. I am 99% sure. Also I am gone now I won't be there until tomorrow. I am 99% town, but you're not going to give any reasons or try to defend me? That's very convenient position to be in if you're scum. Either explain why I'm town or call me scum, you don't get any town cred points for that read at all. | ||
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On August 04 2017 07:14 beentheredonethat wrote: It's funny that Ruxxar is scum reading Damdred for completely other reasons than I do On August 04 2017 21:06 beentheredonethat wrote: Ruxxar is town. I am 99% sure. Also I am gone now I won't be there until tomorrow. ??? Are these posts saying two opposite things? | ||
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On August 04 2017 22:23 Damdred wrote: Я не уверен в том, если некоторые, если не все нюансы te, что я хочу сказать теряется в переводе (возможно). Я не обязательно нужно перевернуть VA сегодня, я думаю hes стоит в настоящее время в силу его странное взаимодействие с его судите читать. TW также полезно взглянуть на и честно было бы целесообразно Линч сегодня. Why don't you want to lynch me damdred? | ||
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On August 04 2017 22:37 Holyflare wrote: Damdred, если вы город, то почему rayn делает еще одну роль в городе, чтобы стрелять в вас? И тогда почему у него есть еще две роли kp вместе с предметами и сделать их городом тоже? И тогда ты сказал, что ты коп, не так ли? А ва коп? Так что же делать мафии в этой игре? Просто заставить людей говорить по-русски? Like I said, this game is not balanced by KP at all. We know for a fact Rsoul had a gun. I know for a fact that I have a gun. BTDT may or may not have a gun, but copcake being dead points towards it being true. It's not a good argument to use in this game. | ||
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On August 05 2017 00:17 ruXxar wrote: Why do you say this Koshi? This was before I ever mentioned superbia. And why could I not have shot rsoul? Do you know something about rsoul that we don't? | ||
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On August 03 2017 17:55 beentheredonethat wrote: Dear everyone, when you think about the night kills, please keep in mind that CopCake was shot by town, making Superbia and rsoultin potential targets of scum KP. On August 03 2017 17:58 ruXxar wrote: What a coincidence, since I also shot her. No refunds for me though. Where do you get the idea that I shot superbia? | ||
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On August 05 2017 00:31 beentheredonethat wrote: Before I go: Fuck you. Fuck your arrogant way of doing stuff. Fuck your toxic insults, fuck your abysmal bullshittery. Of course I have skimmed the QT. I did not read into every little detail of what you said, I didn't even have the time to do so. But I have seen your frustration about talking russian. I see the chain of posts you did. And I townread you for it. If you want to belittle me because I dare to give a read, then keep going, but if you were in front of me in real life right now, I'd punch you in your fucking face and I'd feel great about it. You are an arrogant fuck, Holyflare, and you're so confident in being the best out there that I have enough. wow... | ||
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On August 05 2017 00:25 ruXxar wrote: Like this is the exact order: Where do you get the idea that I shot superbia? If Koshi doesn't come back before I die, please asks this question for me. As my last wish. | ||
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1) HF and BTDT, at what time were you dragged into the QT? If it is conversions power that caused it, (which is a night action) then there should only be two people in the QT, not 3. 2) if HF and Conversion are in the same QT, why are they even interacting in the thread asking each other questions. They should just be communicating in the QT. 3) if it is as BTDT says, and Conversion and HF are having a long convo together, it doesn't sound like they are scum reading each other, so why are they doing so in the thread? On August 04 2017 00:04 Conversion wrote: I do know a choice was made, which is why I know you're either lying or my power got diverted. I'm done giving you more info, scum. keep trying to convince others I lied though. 4) earlier conversion called HF a liar for not receiving a choice: On August 03 2017 23:57 Conversion wrote: so either HF is lying or someone fucked with my powers because my night action was to visit HF According to BTDT they've been in the QT for at least 24h. Someone has to be lying. 5) HF kept denying the fact that he was given a choice. But according to Conversion he was given a choice. Even so, why are they arguing over this in the thread if they are already in the QT according to BTDT? | ||
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On August 05 2017 01:18 Rels wrote: disclaimer: I'm picking up my GF at the train station 2 hours before deazdline. Dunno if I'll be back before the deadline or not, depends if we go eat outside or not afterwards. So 2h30 before deadline my vote will likely be final. Can you evaluate the QT reveal rels and HF vs Conversion interaction at the start of the day? I'd like your opinion. | ||
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I remember last game BTDT played as scum and he made up a crazy theory to explain the night kills where the scum team had a strong arm 1 shot vigi. Turns out he was actually telling the truth even though no one believed him. It's possible BTDT is scum and shot copcake because he's mafia and copcake wanted to lynch him. | ||
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On August 05 2017 01:32 Koshi wrote: Probably kinda baiting to see reaction, and knowing it would be the more logical shot. I knew you didn't shoot CC but I didn't know if you were redirected or RB or w.e the fuck. If I asked if you shot Superbia you would say "no I shot CC" and then nothing would happen. By claiming you shot Superbia you would be more inclined to tell the truth if you were lieing because you would fear I know more. I just needed you to admit to lieing. I didn't activily think all this but that is probably why my mind told me to say it like that. Maybe I even townread you still back then and just thought you made a mistake or something. Knowing you scumread both CC and superbia. But then when you admitted to lieing it made you mafia. I believe you, and very good answer. Thanks | ||
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On August 05 2017 01:14 ruXxar wrote: The QT thing is interesting, and I have a lot of questions. 1) HF and BTDT, at what time were you dragged into the QT? If it is conversions power that caused it, (which is a night action) then there should only be two people in the QT, not 3. 2) if HF and Conversion are in the same QT, why are they even interacting in the thread asking each other questions. They should just be communicating in the QT. 3) if it is as BTDT says, and Conversion and HF are having a long convo together, it doesn't sound like they are scum reading each other, so why are they doing so in the thread? 4) earlier conversion called HF a liar for not receiving a choice: According to BTDT they've been in the QT for at least 24h. Someone has to be lying. 5) HF kept denying the fact that he was given a choice. But according to Conversion he was given a choice. Even so, why are they arguing over this in the thread if they are already in the QT according to BTDT? Conversion you need to show up and explain this mess asap. | ||
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It hasn't changed, im evaluating other possibilities. There's more than one scum out there. I'll be more certain after I've read BTDTs filter. | ||
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On August 05 2017 02:00 Conversion wrote: I was out to lunch. I'll explain everything about my powers since BTDT jumped the gun on the reveal. Wanted to do so after D2 Thats a bit too late for me. | ||
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On August 05 2017 02:13 Conversion wrote: 1) My night power isn't the one that brings people into the QT. I have another power on top of my "choice" power, which results in people existing in the QT. Can be used once a cycle at any time. 2) We were not in the same QT until 6PMish last night, hence the argument of HF and me being confused as shit as to why HF was calling me a liar 3) notice how I haven't replied to HF 4) see above 1) - So you had people in your QT yesterday? - You can bring more than one person into your QT? | ||
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On August 05 2017 02:21 Conversion wrote: I've had BTDT since end of N1, who claimed he was not HF. which is why I was confused about my powers for half of D2, until BTDT revealed himself I have HF and BTDT in there, so yes? Let me recap: Yesterday (D1) you gave a choice to HF. An person turned up in the QT, who you think is HF, but claims he is not(BTDT) Today(D2) You have an argument with HF. And then you offer the choice to HF again today or how does he end up in your QT today? | ||
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On August 05 2017 02:29 Conversion wrote: and if anyone wants to know why I picked HF over rsoultin for my "choice" power: I already have a very strong town read on rsoultin for her play on D1, but didn't for HF since he had to speak Russian soon after I became focused on the game. also I didn't know whether to try giving the choice to them, or someone that wasn't speaking until rsoultin posted this (translated) message: so I wanted to figure out HF without going through some language BS, and gave him the choice. During N1 I used the other part of my role (once/cycle power) on BTDT. HF was telling me he never got a choice (which threw me off), and BTDT entered with an alias, and said he wasn't HF. So halfway past D2 I used my the power I used on BTDT (once BTDT cleared himself in the QT) on HF, and here we are now Thanks, It makes sense now, although it's quite a complicated mechanics. | ||
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Back to the drawing board... | ||
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On August 05 2017 02:46 Rels wrote: I did and maybe I missed it but I don't understand. You invite BTDT to your QT: a dude enters and says he's not HF; why did that throw you of ? You should have assumed it was BTDT ? She mixed up what the blue and red pill does. One pill takes you into the QT. The other takes you out of the QT. She gave the opposite pill to BTDT and HF. | ||
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On August 05 2017 02:57 darthfoley wrote: Copcake was a relatively easy lynch for mafia to orchestrate though. It doesn't make sense for scum to shoot to Copcake unless it's just WIFOM or something idk Does it make more sense to shoot rsoul, with the russian disease? I dont think so. | ||
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On August 05 2017 03:06 Rels wrote: so you're saying Superbia is the most likely scum shot right I don't think any of them were good targets at all. Two of them were my top scum reads, which is why I shot them, and rsoul was silenced. If I was mafia I would've killed Koshi. | ||
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You should, it's the correct play. | ||
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On August 05 2017 03:21 darthfoley wrote: That's also true. Neither kill makes any sense unless some mafia people had some sort of information about their roles, or their reads were super correct (but i'm not mafia so i don't buy that.) I said that here: On August 04 2017 20:30 ruXxar wrote: This doesn't make much sense either. Silencing and killing seems like 2 separate and redundant actions. If you've done the first, there's no need for the second. This seems to suggest that perhaps there is a different source for the disease and the killing, or that the killing was not due to mafia at all. I can not see how killing rsoul was in any way optimal for mafia due to her play and her already russian disease. This brings me to think that it's her role and powers they were afraid of. It might be something she crumbed and her interaction with conversion. The fact that conversion offered something to rsoul could be part of the reason why she's dead. | ||
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Do you want to explain what this is VA? On August 01 2017 02:36 VayneAuthority wrote: Also if anyone has directions to Route 78 or some sort of device/map as an item, send it my way thanks On August 03 2017 04:54 VayneAuthority wrote: Also need directions to route 78 ASAP or whatever item does that like a map or something. | ||
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On August 05 2017 03:38 Conversion wrote: new poe patch is dropping tonight so I won't be around much Enjoy | ||
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On August 05 2017 03:30 darthfoley wrote: Yes, that's right. I've been primarily on mobile for the past couple days so all this QT and Russian stuff is quite annoying and has been hard to follow. Too many mechanics flying all over the place Yeah me too. Is there some easy way to read the russian stuff on the phone? I have an iphone and it sucks copy pasting into google translate LOL. | ||
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On August 05 2017 03:47 darthfoley wrote: Nah, i've been manually doing it that way until i get frustrated enough to stop. I hope you're mafia for the sake of the game, but I tip my hat to you for the insane effort you're putting in regardless of your alignment. Giving us juicy things to think about regardless The effort will be worth if when I flip town. I'll feel good knowing I left you guys with some good thoughts | ||
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On August 03 2017 22:45 VayneAuthority wrote: yea I give ruxxar like 5% chance town 95% mafia. He even voted off wagon, i just started looking at the votes yesterday. I have no idea what hes talking about or why he would consider helping though as mafia. it seems like bs that you have 4/5 caveats to your role when all I have is info and 1 potential power. Only 1 potential power? Then what are these for. On August 01 2017 02:36 VayneAuthority wrote: Also if anyone has directions to Route 78 or some sort of device/map as an item, send it my way thanks On August 03 2017 04:54 VayneAuthority wrote: Also need directions to route 78 ASAP or whatever item does that like a map or something. | ||
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I mean, it can't be stronger than what he does with LSD, so I don't see any reason why he wouldn't explain what it does. | ||
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Townies: Koshi. Conversion. HF. BTDT. Darthfoley. ---- Possible scumsies: VA. TW. Rels. Damdred. --- WP scum, you're hiding yourselves well. Well that's it. Gonna go play some tekken on my new etokki. Enjoy the rest of the game folks! | ||
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On August 05 2017 05:23 Tumblewood wrote: also, the other part of my role is that i deliver a package (mandatory) every day to someone. but i don't know what's in them. (i suspect that is what ##learn would tell me.) i delivered to koshi d1 so i would like to know what it was. also, to the person who receives the next one, don't do anything stupid. TW moves to scum pile. | ||
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On August 05 2017 04:48 darthfoley wrote: Who do you trust most out of your townies? Were they in order? Sort of, but due to different reasons. I read Koshi and Conversion town due to their play. Never lynch. I read HF town mostly due to russian disease. It's more of a pity town read really. But could be anything. TW town due to his explanation right now, and basically getting confirmed town by rayn. BTDT is town due to tone, and straight forward play, but... his meta is like.. ive never seen him play like this before. He seems constantly agitated, like he is constantly on edge/angry at someone or something in life. If hes scum then hes playing really well and different this game from his previous scum game. DF youre town due to previously mentioned reasons. Your meta is a little bit different than last we played. A little less aggressive, pushy, scum hunting. Still youre flowing really well in your thoughts, so if youre scum youre playing well like I said. The people I feel like I have least reason to call town are damdred, rels and VA. VA I like because hes explaining his power, so hes probably town, if not, its a non-issue so I dont really care what alignment he is. ----- Damdred and Rels I know nothing about their powers. If they were willing to share then I might change my view, but theyre the most tight lipped about their powers, and I dont like that. Be sure to question them about it as the game goes on. So scum team could literally be damdred/rels Same goes for you DF, you should probably share some of what your power does to really nail your town status | ||
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On August 05 2017 05:50 Holyflare wrote: Отличается ли она от вашей мафиозной игры? Игра BTDT Мафия взволнована и агрессивна? Его буквальная цель состояла в том, чтобы дерьмо нить In the last scum game, btdt was like, literally tunneled on casing skynx over and over and not changing his views. This game hes flowing a bit more freely and evaluating more people and updating his reads more. Thats the feeling I got anyway. | ||
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On August 05 2017 01:32 Koshi wrote: Probably kinda baiting to see reaction, and knowing it would be the more logical shot. I knew you didn't shoot CC but I didn't know if you were redirected or RB or w.e the fuck. If I asked if you shot Superbia you would say "no I shot CC" and then nothing would happen. By claiming you shot Superbia you would be more inclined to tell the truth if you were lieing because you would fear I know more. I just needed you to admit to lieing. I didn't activily think all this but that is probably why my mind told me to say it like that. Maybe I even townread you still back then and just thought you made a mistake or something. Knowing you scumread both CC and superbia. But then when you admitted to lieing it made you mafia. Koshi gave me this answer. I liked it. | ||
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On August 05 2017 05:58 Tumblewood wrote: ruxxar did u visit cc or not? i am confused I shot supberia, I used vodka + matches on copcake. I visited both. | ||
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On August 05 2017 05:59 Conversion wrote: well too late to save ruxxar. sorry man :/ This is absolutely the right play | ||
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If he was willing to do that to himself then sure, let him play in misery. | ||
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