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On July 30 2017 07:22 Koshi wrote: I am going to bed. Maybe my head will be clearer tomorrow 😁. If I can choose. I want to roll survivor. Fyi. This is super pointless and super trolly and not town!Koshi. | ||
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On July 30 2017 21:43 ruXxar wrote: You know what, I think the sensible thing to do here is vote for a no-lynch. ##vote no-lynch BUUULLSHIT | ||
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But I don't know my alignment so actually it's potentially okay? Well I won't tell you guys :> | ||
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On July 30 2017 22:17 rsoultin wrote: Why dont you find out and tell us? I'm still waiting on starving kid pictures... How am I supposed to find out? ##donate everything I have including myself to ruXxar this is like the most extreme I can do I guess, let's see what happens | ||
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On July 30 2017 22:22 ruXxar wrote: Im not going to lynch people when we dont know our alignment. Reading any alignment out of people is just going to be false positives. That's a good point actually but the most boring approach that is possible. If you think that through, you end up with "let's not play until we all have our alignments" which is boring. | ||
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On July 30 2017 22:33 Damdred wrote: I don't understand how you can play a game by btdt without knowing alignments? Thanks for stating the obvious (this is not a game by btdt by the way) | ||
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On July 30 2017 22:56 Damdred wrote: Since most of us if not all of us do not know alignments, there is 0 way we can play the game until we do. Unless we just rng the lynch onto btdt You can't say "rng" and then claim a target, that's not how "rng" works. Also I hope you do know that "btdt" is absolutely interchangable with any name in the player list, including your name. | ||
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On July 30 2017 22:34 ruXxar wrote: Thank you friend. In return I give you a an old heirloom said to carry magic power. Use it when you find yourself in trouble. (no manual included) "I will use it, my generous donor", I reply, while gracefully bowing towards good ruxXar. I turn the heirloom in my hands, apparently it is some sort of necklace. Its golden links are a bit dusty but the thick emerald in the middle of it gleams as if the sun itself lies within. I pull out my sword, point it to the ground and I go down on my knees. "For that present, my good lord ruXxar, I shall follow you into battle. Me and my children and the children of my children shall saddle their horses, sharpen their blades, and give their lives for the honor of fighting for your name, good lord!" kurwa | ||
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Soooo who knows his alignment yet? | ||
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On July 31 2017 01:11 CopCake wrote: Yeah I get that which is why Holyflare's "I am town" to "NOW idk who i am" to "I know who I am and jumps to do passports" is weird. Even more weird because he DID what Superbia asked "we will get a person to give us passports" which probably points that HF is fluffing around. You see I think Mafia got to know who are they and are drinking coffee (Beer if they are finnish) talking about how to fuck up. Here is where it comes Ruxxxar, even tho he hasnt done anything as weird as HF he has done super scummy things which I pointed out in my post to Rsoultin. This post means that either Holyflare or CopCake are scum, or both are town, but they are not scum together. Because if they were scum together, CopCake would not make such a post over HF. So if one of the flips scum, it townconfirms the other one. Yes it's early for such an assumption but CopCake's post really feels akward | ||
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a) both of you haven't received alignments (boooring) b) one is scum, one hasn't received alignment c) one is town, one hasn't received alignment d) both are town So while one of you guys flipping town doesn't really confirm the other one, I think one of you flipping scum is close to confirming the other one as town, all based on your rather constructive post. | ||
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On July 31 2017 02:20 CopCake wrote: I do think that mafia knows who they are and are in quicktopic deciding what to do. Now look at the game with that perspective and from the first 3 pages who look weird. If that is the case, we have already confirmed town people, being the ones who started the whole "oh my alignment is unclear" people. I can't believe that there are 3 scummers in a QT and 11 players that do not have an alignment yet that are not town in the end of the day. | ||
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On July 31 2017 02:39 CopCake wrote: Idk I assume that with no role I am vanilla town so I am gonna be one Yeah that's what I do, too, but it's what everyone's gonna do I guess. Like, even if it turns out in the end that you're scum, you still want to look townie, right? So unsure alignment = town play / emulate town play. So to me, everyone whose alignment is unclear is town as long as his alignment gets cleared up. Is that a flawed logic? | ||
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On July 31 2017 02:48 rsoultin wrote: Well, the thing is, aimlessness and joking makes all the sense in the world for people with no role/alignment. If I make the assumptions that you insist I make, Cake, what I come out with is a scumteam (assuming 3) of: Tictock, you, Conversion Tictock based on the assumption that Joni wouldn't be a complete dick and would put the role pm in scum qt, but TT didn't check scum qt first. He seems aware of what he should be doing now You because you came in assuming that scum already had their alignments. Even though both Damdred and I obviously considered that possibility, neither of us went to hard scum-hunting. I know I'm just poking at people in case anything interesting comes out, but I'm not sure anyone even has their alignment yet. Not everyone's the same, but the things you pointed out were particularly nitpicky and very obviously benign from a 'we don't know shit' perspective, so you're the most suspicious. And Conversion just because he hasn't posted. <- Obviously the weakest. (Still haven't seen anything terribly strange from everyone else who has, so -shrugs-) So maaaaybe cake you might be better off convincing me no one knows a damn thing. I do actually feel that it's fairly town-favored for mafia to know their alignments and town not to the first 24 hours, cause that's a lot of time to slip up ^^ This is not only speculation about what a player may or may not do when he starts the game, but also speculation about what the host may or may not do. What I want to say is that it's absolutely irrelevant. Normal case of a scum pm: "you're scum, here's QT." - in the QT, scum team members are listed with given roles. At least that's how I do it most of the time. Basing a whole scumread on that is really not solid at all, especially given that there would be even a certain action of the host (putting the PM in the QT). Long story short, I don't buy that scum read and I don't understand why Tina puts it up. Fishy! | ||
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On July 31 2017 02:20 CopCake wrote: I do think that mafia knows who they are and are in quicktopic deciding what to do. Now look at the game with that perspective and from the first 3 pages who look weird. You; because you do think that but you apparently don't care about who exactly claims to not know his alignment and who doesn't do so. In your world, everyone who claims to not have a unclear alignment right now should be lynched with fire and everyone who claimed to have that alignment is confirmed town (especially the guys who were the first to claim) But you don't really care for these people, since you didn't even bother to go back and look who claimed first (= confirmed town in your eyes). So if you think that this is the world we're in, then you should definitely act accordingly. I think you don't act accordingly. I think you're trying to do what a town person would do but since you're scum and you do know that there's a QT with scum members in, you're tryharding to emulate a town person. ##vote CopCape | ||
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On July 31 2017 03:58 Holyflare wrote: Reasons for denial:
ENTRY DENIED + Show Spoiler + Please make sure all papers are presented with a valid reason to enter and have not expired. If papers are expired, please wait for the relevant authorities to issue you with new papers. Please get passport issued from relevant location. Glory to Arstotzka. I haven't even applied and I do not care about your shitty border controls ##Join: The All-Arstotzkian People's Front | ||
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On July 31 2017 04:18 rsoultin wrote: -yawns- I'm the passport official. Slander will not be tolerated. More to the point that was obviously a 'if I were to make a scumteam now based on cake's assumptions' post. I'm good, but not catch the entire scumteam on D1 good. Course, there's a first time for everything! Yeah I know but I still think that this is one level beyond speculation. It's more on a derailing level. It's one of the biggest posts you've made so far and why make such a post when its whole purpose is, like, pointless? | ||
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On July 31 2017 04:25 rsoultin wrote: Lolwut? You copy the read I have in that post, which was directed entirely at cake's play and just mentioned the others in passing, and call it pointless? Or did you not actually read the whole thing? I did read the whole thing but the "pointless" was directed towards Tictock, my bad. But you do agree the Tictock stuff was pointless and misleading, right? | ||
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On July 31 2017 04:28 rsoultin wrote: Like you're literally saying that the largest, most relevant part of my post that you happen to 100% agree with and just spent your own pretty time babbling about is apparently meaningless in the face of the small amount of speculation on Tictock, and that therefore makes the whole post pointless. Like I don't even think this is scum or anything I just think it's hilariously bad lol >< That's me as town as everyone can confirm | ||
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Said it, now I'll shut up about it. Be nice to each other and try to have a good, townie, non-toxic atmosphere to talk to each other, alrighty? | ||
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On July 31 2017 04:36 rsoultin wrote: Misleading, how? I mean, yes, I've already rescinded as you'll see above because I remembered him claiming town, not the exact wording of the post. However, in the context of the thread where most people are aimless, given the misread, it was a fine preliminary read. And it illustrated what I thought scummers who know their alignment might look like in thread, namely acting with information no one else had -shrugs- Why would I call what I actually thought misleading? It doesn't matter if it's speculative or 'pointless' when I was illustrating what I see as likely mafia behavior in that scenario. Let's just drop this topic. I currently have a hard time understanding what you're trying to tell me (tired on my side) and I kinda want to play rocket league. | ||
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On July 31 2017 06:35 darthfoley wrote: You seem very concerned with this question. Why is that worth this question but everything else that happened is not? | ||
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On July 31 2017 06:30 Conversion wrote: so far lots of yelling about lynch vs no lynch, for some reason HF became the protagonist of papers please, and one person thinks I'm mafia bc I'm a dumbass and didn't check for when this game started There wasnt lots of yelling. More like, some posts. Why misrepresent this? Posting for the sake of posting? | ||
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On July 31 2017 06:50 darthfoley wrote: Agreed. Let's start out super secret group of Arstotzka Intelligentsia, where we discuss issues concerning Haute Socièté, excluding such individuals as the former Can you contact me pregame next time so we avoid such unenjoyable encounters? | ||
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On July 31 2017 14:50 rsoultin wrote: Anyway, no more time for this. I'll make it simple. The main reason I scumread you is for shallow, surface-level scumreads and I believe you're a better player than that. The main reason I scumread Conversion is his entry to the thread which seems to want to make people think he's read more than he has. Yelling about lynch/no-lynch? I'm fairly certain my post scumreading him came far enough back in the thread that he should have recognized the bolded was not happening. Could town do that? Yes. But I think it's more likely to come from scum, trying to make out that you're more invested in the game than you are. And I'd like people to comment on both Cake and Conversion if they disagree. (Or if they agree just to stroke my ego ^^) I have to go to work now. Toodles. Im with you on both the Conversion and the Cake read. Fine with lynching any of them. Conversion over Cake though. | ||
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On July 31 2017 15:15 darthfoley wrote: You mean like three whole posts? Mainly because I was asked to explain a read, and I personally detest his rage-induced blow ups every game. And the fact that he's already threatened to do so before everyone even gets role PMs irks me. His play feels scummy. I was in the car for 9 hours yesterday so I'll be able to play more today. Except all I did was saying "dont start calling me bad or I'll quit [instead of raging hard]", which you took as an excuse to prematurely judge my play of this game without even considering that I might want to improve. If you're so locked on me being shit, then either dont sign up in a game with me OR contact me pregame to work this out. Joining this game knowing I play and then start flinging "btdt sucks and I'll ignore him" won't help at all. Regarding your scumread: you focus on one post. A post that is in context of rsoultin calling me bad which is something I do know that it triggers me, so I said how I will react to such a discussion and urged town to create a solid, kind atmosphere. If we go at each others throat, the game will not only be unenjoyable but super hard to play for town. Df, I promise I wont be toxic this game. But if you preemptively choose to see me that way, then well we better dont play together in the future. | ||
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And; pro tipp: if you think someone is playing bad, there are better and more constructive ways to let them know instead of saying "youre bad Ill ignore you". | ||
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On July 31 2017 16:59 Koshi wrote: Not getting a pretty obvious joke is bad. So defensive. I am a loyal citizen of arstotzka. It was an ok question to ask. Just answer it and move on. +1 It isn't. It makes perfect sense some people knew their alignment from teh start. Why otherwise start the game so early? If it is just null, rayn wouldn't waste our time. So some things happened for sure. True but it is good to keep it in mind. I mean I'm being defensive right now but my question towards DF was not defensive but aggressive :O | ||
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On July 31 2017 06:42 Conversion wrote: BTDT I already dealt with you last game and I will state right now that I will ignore you 100% this game unless you pique my interest. Also because of your fluffy "if people aren't nice to me I'm gonna quit" so until I feel like dealing with you I will be ignoring you, lest I succumb to my desires of insulting your skill at Mafia and accidentally making you rage quit. Can you please answer the original question? You did misrepresent the thread and to me (and others) it seems like you had difficulties entering the thread. | ||
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On July 31 2017 18:59 Koshi wrote: It's a themed game so lighten up. Unless you see something I don't see that makes him mafia? Point still is to catch scum, he's actively avoiding that. | ||
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Hf probably not Conversion CopCake scum Superbia ??? | ||
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On July 31 2017 20:36 Conversion wrote: I wasn't actually being serious here man, sorry the tongue-in-cheek got lost in translation. I'm have no problems with you aside from you pushing me as mafia all the time when I'm town :D Oh I thought you were serious. Meh. | ||
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I mean right now youre working your way up, no doubt, but "pushing you as scum as usual" - like, i dont play enough games to have a "usual" here so that's your perception. | ||
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On July 31 2017 20:42 Conversion wrote: I've only been around for one game since 2012 so I'd rather not make judgments on you based on that-- it'd be pretty immature. Plus I got pretty heated towards the end of it so no hard feelings eh? Plus ignoring people is like a big no no IMO in playing mafia I had one game as whiny raging town, then followed this up with a whiny super toxic scum game. I went over the line in that game and I promised to improve. DF is a burned child i guess. If he really keeps ignoring me he's scum tho, he's usually invested in games and as town, he's sharp | ||
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On July 31 2017 20:45 Superbia wrote: Your opening posts were shit. 1. This: is a pointless summary to seem active (imo). 2. You don't comment whatsoever about the fact that most of us (apparently) did not get an alignment d1.0 and only got an alignment at d1.333. Which suggests to me that you do not belong to this boat or that you at least do not feel comfortable discussing it. Yep #1 Dunno if i agree with #2 | ||
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On July 31 2017 21:40 Conversion wrote: ... Town BTDT. His start doesn't seem off from the one game I played with him. I'm going to shelf him as town for now rsoultin ... also @BTDT and Superbia. if I'm mafia #1 who are my other two scummates? I want to see how well you can read this game since both of you seem to agree I'm playing like shit or like scum or both This is a super weak reason to townread me. Can it be that you simply know that I'm town because you're scum and we don't share a QT? Regarding your questions: I have no idea who your teammates are in case you're mafia. Can we come back to that question like, next day phase or something? | ||
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On July 31 2017 21:52 Conversion wrote: hey you all wanted me to be active so give me a short list of who else is scum instead of piggybacking one mistake how about you actually help town progress by actively scumhunting and questioning obvious inactives? Okay, I see where you're coming from: "take me as scum for now. I know I'm not scum, so please look at least to other people" Which is a good thought but - why aren't you doing this? Like, you're super victimizing yourself here, it's close to martyring. Stop that and start pushing inactives (you'll see why pushing inactives is hard as soon as you try it. They're - inactive). | ||
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On July 31 2017 22:00 Koshi wrote: Also is this a scumslip? Why does he say 100% of town and not 100% of all players? If mafia got a mafia role pm this is a slip. Because it contradicts his point. I don't think so. | ||
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On July 31 2017 22:06 VayneAuthority wrote: Hello, im lost, can anyone hear me? I need a new path just to finally be free. I'm feeling withdrawals, who's got the LSD? Lynch with fire | ||
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On July 31 2017 22:07 Conversion wrote: just lynch me thanks don't give a shit honestly. superbia's arguments are awful, you're pushing me for actually giving reads and trying to get me to "slip" by making me run mental gymnastics on why i made a post BTDT is probably gonna call me scum until the end of time like he did last game. got lynched and still called me scum until obs QT I'll just laugh once I flip town and you all waste your D1 see ya gonna pay attention to worm since being inactive is worth more than being active TL Rule: if you martyr ("I don't care if I'll be banned but...") will get you banned. So can you not martyr and instead put in actual work to get a counter wagon started? | ||
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On July 31 2017 22:15 Conversion wrote: I probably have some bias on Damdred bc he was my coach in the last newbie game, plus didn't spend too much time reading him or anyone else with little posts anyways I'm off. town pls lynch me TYVM I don't feel like playing with two versions of BTDT looking to call me scum all game BTDT logic against me last game: have good grammar when typing on a phone = lying scum post = scum post shit = scum don't post = scum ride off into inactivity = scum half of town greenchecks me = scum gets mislynched and I'm at final 3 = conversion must be scum Good lord. 1. This is not last game 2. This is not last game 3. This is not last game 4. I did already say you're working your way up the town ladder 5. I did already say multiple times that you should just stop martyring I don't know why exactly you pity yourself so much right now. If evil and bad btdt isn't able to realize that you're town, then it's either btdt fucking up (possible) or you not establishing yourself properly as town (possible). (The way you're approaching this ("hurr durr btdt is so bad he's pushing me all over the place he's so bad") is not really bringing us anywhere) | ||
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This does not mean your lynch is locked nor does it mean that I'll never back off of you. I am even fairly certain that I do not have nor will ever have enough thread pull to lead a lynch (because I am probably regarded as the worst player in this game). So. Let's both take one step back. I'll stop the "pressure" for now, you move off of your "btdt you suck"-OMGUS, and we both contribute as good as we can to a townie atmosphere. Okay? | ||
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On July 31 2017 23:11 CopCake wrote: Hello, I read and saw the whole Superbia vs Conversion. If Conversion is mafia I think BTDT also is mafia. That's an interesting conclusion and I am eagerly awaiting your explanation. On July 31 2017 23:22 darthfoley wrote: Koshi, come help me understand Superbia and btdt. Allow me to enter into your Belgian cranium and utilize the little gray cells How can I help? I am under the impression that my play is pretty straight forward: - CopCake is weird because of the "I think Mafia has its alignment already" stuff - Conversion is probably scum because of his thread entry - a bunch of town reads on people like Superbia and Koshi Is there any specific topic where I can make things more clear? | ||
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On July 31 2017 23:47 Koshi wrote: Who knows? He has the bad tendency to not play on D1. On July 31 2017 23:53 CopCake wrote: Ok then he missing means nothing That's a super fast conclusion but I don't know if it's alignment indicative. I want to bring it up nevertheless because it really strikes me as odd. Gut stuff. | ||
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On August 01 2017 00:37 CopCake wrote: Beentheredone that I suspect you because you pretty much are parroting people and looks like you jumped on conversion because people are doing that. Even before the conversion part you have been trying to get people good side. Get your facts straight. I did it way before superbia. And I'm not trying to get people "good side" whatever that means, on the contrary. I'm pushing people and I'm dropping solid reads, trying to enable others to read me. Do you have any concrete questions or should I just take what you said and live with that? Because if so, please also vote me and follow up on me and not just... yolo me, trying to discredit what I say. | ||
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On August 01 2017 01:00 VayneAuthority wrote: Do you know what im talking about or you just don't like this post? just curious I have no idea what you're talking about and I dislike the playstyle, so I say "lynch with fire" to get others looking at you and to spark up discussion and to, optionally, lynch you with fire. | ||
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On August 01 2017 04:22 CopCake wrote: My way to clear myself is via Tumblewood and why I read town, he said he doesnt remember his role before the pm update, key words are "doesnt remember" he was the only person who used the word remember not just say "I dont know my role" if I know this word is because I also got the same pm. Obviously you might say "But cake what if mafia didnt know their roles either" I call bullshit. Someone tell me, if I was mafia wouldnt it be wise of me just be cute and pretend to help but nope I am here battling. Forever but you my dear Ruxxar you even ask people to give you stuff, why? Why arent you afraid of mafia knowing a little of your role? That you need matches? But if that is true, how town-sided would that be if scum wouldn't know about the whole thing? (And how borderline close is it to modconfirming when you say "remember" because my PM said the same but it's like not allowed to quote from your PM, or is it) I think either none knew his alignment - or scum knew that they belong together BUT they received at least the same PM. Everything else would be absolutely imbalanced. | ||
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Time to do some summoning. Who's in? | ||
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On July 31 2017 19:32 beentheredonethat wrote: Koshi, df, ruxxar, rsoultin town Hf probably not Conversion CopCake scum Superbia ??? Let's change this to Town: Koshi, CopCake, Superbia, DF (order doesn't matter) Hmmm: Conversion, HF, rsoultin Scum: well that's awkward. | ||
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On August 01 2017 05:21 CopCake wrote: I think they got to know they were together and that town werent aware of his abilities/aligment but not about the exact pm. Also remember this is not a balanced game. Not necessarily balanced. Also, the game might even be objectively balanced but the perceived balance is something completely different. I'm talking about perceived balance, so nothing that could be measured objectively. Since we don't really know much about the setup anyways, there's no point in speculating about PMs. I think the fact that he said "remember" does indeed mean that he either knew the exact PM OR received the original PM, meaning that he did not lie, meaning that chances are he's not scum, yes, but it doesn't confirm him. I think I re-wrote this sentence 10000 times now because I cannot really come to a conclusion that is helpful. Can you repeat what your exact point about this is, I may or may not have read the relevant post x_X | ||
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...I said "ignore, not relevant", bro On July 30 2017 10:04 darthfoley wrote: i'm not sure what we're supposed to say, except that Dunkirk is fucking fantastic Yes. Amazing movie, haven't seen such a tense one for quite some time. On July 30 2017 09:50 darthfoley wrote: Hello. I forget what I was going to say So this feels like DF hinting to the "forgot alignment" PM. On July 30 2017 10:05 darthfoley wrote: ##NEXT! And this feels like DF having no real clue how to proceed because he wants an alignment. Is that correct, DF? | ||
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"A MAN WITH A BEAR IS FULLY UNTENNED, SHOULD GET IT In other news, a man with a bear preached hated speech in the district # 309. Although the police baker also does not follow his rhetoric, this person with the bear does such things and does not consider his own speech about hatred. The editor is guilty of this hatred, but both of these people did not do anything dangerous to the news editor or cast suspicion on him." This is what google translate just told me. | ||
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On August 01 2017 05:29 Koshi wrote: ##vote Darthfoley Don't like how he is piggybacking this game. So I googled the meaning of piggybacking and I don't understand what you mean. What is he doing? | ||
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On August 01 2017 05:33 CopCake wrote: To clear myself of dumb arguments that apparently made me mafia. "cake dropped the rels case" by ruxxar "Cake looks guided" by rsoultin "Cake might have a language barrier problem" by rsoultin "Cake is not acting smart and doesnt have sense of humor" by rsoultin "Cake needs to posts reads besides ruxxar" by rsoultin "Cake asked opinions about rsoultin and she doesnt judge herself her post is bla bla bla" by idr who "cake "Cake didnt react by role updated" by rsoultin Etc etc etc Those are all the things that make me mafia if I gathered all of them. I think you're overreacting to these things and I think you're misrepresenting some arguments, which makes me think you're seriously pissed town (I can relate). But you do agree that you knowing the "remember" thing doesn't clear you, right? It's possible, as you said, that scum was in a QT and they had the exact PM available in their QT so it's not imbalanced. The weird thing is: earlier in the game, I didn't think of that possibility, so when you said "meh, mafia might very well already have their alignment", I thought you're super wrong or scum, thus also my vote on you. I don't know if the whole alignment stuff from the beginning isn't just misleading shit. Maybe we should just discard it and move on to actual scumhunting? | ||
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On August 01 2017 06:59 Rels wrote: I thought I was gonna catch up tonight but there are too many pages. Will do that tomorrow More votes on Rels until he delivers this | ||
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On August 01 2017 13:52 rsoultin wrote: So I get you're like a million pages behind or something but what I don't get is why I see so little of any opinions in your filter. Mechanics of the roles, quite a few non-commital comments. What I'd call safe topics. I get being lost-ish cause I'm going off weak town feels on a lot of my no lynch list, but your play is pretty passive for me. As for VA -shrugs- he explained he thinks it's KP and is confused why you'd give that power to Ruxx. That perspective makes sense to me. I think Tina has a genuinely town post here and she comes on the town pile. Tictock is a good lynch, I agree. | ||
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On August 01 2017 14:22 Tictock wrote: This is what I was referring too. The switch from saying we should get rid of a question mark slot to calling what HF was doing scummy seemed off to me. HF's posting doesn't make sense as a scum strat as it is bound to draw attention. Keep in mind I still have no clue the actual content of HF's posts besides the little others have tried to translate. Please explain how 1. "Remove Hf" 2. "Why?" 3. "Because it's anti town" Is weird. | ||
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On August 01 2017 21:27 Rels wrote: You sure were convinced quickly ? Did you check some games of mine ? I like this because I thought the exact same thing but I couldn't make anything of it so I thought it's just me overreacting Rels is town. | ||
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On August 01 2017 21:44 Rels wrote: You don't see similarities with the last two games he played recently ? You do? I don't see it. | ||
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On August 01 2017 22:52 Rels wrote: That's the way he was fixated on this idea that made Cake scum. Like how he was fixated on the idea HF was scum 'cause he fakeclaimed then rescinded a red check on me last game. Like how he was fixated on the idea there were scum on annul's wagon two games ago. Hmmm I can see it | ||
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On August 01 2017 22:43 Damdred wrote: Thats not how this works Ok tell me how it works then or, show me, by playing townie and being contributive. right now, the thing you're contributing the most is bad spelling | ||
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On August 01 2017 23:40 darthfoley wrote: Oh crap, I knew I forgot someone. He'd probably be under Rels or above Conversion. I thought he was much more town earlier, but he's kinda trailed off since This is absolutely correct. I didn't invest too much ever since yesterday and I'm lazy and tired (work days and a bit of passion lost). I think DF is not scum and you guys should stop pressuring him. We should lynch Damdred. | ||
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On August 02 2017 04:46 CopCake wrote: Wouldnt mind the beentheredonethat lynch to be honest, I am glad you have time now to post damdred :D What the where is this coming from all of a sudden? Like, you townread me for the worst reasons and now I'm scum all of a sudden? | ||
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On August 02 2017 05:20 CopCake wrote: DF, Beentheredonethat and Ruxxar Who wants to join me in any of these trains? Cho cho cho Ok I found the reason why you want to lynch me. 1. I started HF 2. I started Conversion 3. I kinda started Damdred Where exactly am I jumping on whatever others are saying? Also, what happened to this: On August 01 2017 15:54 CopCake wrote: Nah I beg to differ, I dont think I look scummy. Either way I dont mind a Damdred lynch either, he had posted but he hasnt said anything at all and he is supposed to be a smart player. I also didnt like his "I am clearing rels" but not superbia. DES-PA-CITO I wanna see damdred being lynched despacito All his posts had been meaningless like a mosquito He should burn while I eat a burrito. Damdred is not on the lyst anymore? On August 01 2017 19:21 CopCake wrote: Ruxxar: Fishing roles: - asks vayne why he needs LSD - aks in a implied way to cake to reveal her role early game But he feels comfortable: - asking for a box of matches - not saying why he needs them :D but hey lets push Vayne why he needs a trace(path) and LSD Other points - He doesnt want to lynch tictoc because of the box of matches - says I am mafia because I dont have my "own opinion" - whenever I create a post like this (facts) To see everybody else opinion "Uh cake doesnt have her own opinion she lets people do her work" when I honestly give no shit and even decided to live in the world where mafia knew their alignent - He claims HF is town but HF has been saying two things: * the 24 hrs were not in vain * ruxxar is mafia Ruxxar is mafia thank you. Ruxxar is mafia but you're willing to lynch me over ruxxar? On August 02 2017 00:09 CopCake wrote: Either way Superbia since everyone suddenly is calling you mafia. What do you think of my ruxxar case? What do you think of rsoul being here like 5 min say she will cstch up and then leaving? You think she wanted to start a train with me in the beginning but didnt work? What do you think of Damdred? Also tiktok ks never mafia if Ruxxar is mafia. Aha. Why? | ||
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On August 02 2017 05:23 Superbia wrote: Let's do TT vs DF wagons? Both are here. I don't have an actual opinion on Tictock as I have to admit so I'd prefer Damdred vs. DF But then again, I'll vote Tictock and Damdred over DF, so I don't care too much? | ||
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On August 02 2017 04:34 Damdred wrote: honestly before i go much further i will exolain whatvyou want rsoul. First, and the greatest reason i didnt snark back at ruxxar, was because his post did not upset me. I laughed at his and wentnon about my business of reading and trying to figure out what to do in the thread. it was this post that tilted me. This post was absolutely without merrit and was just built it seemed like to me to try to trigger me. Especially comig from te same person who earlier in the game threatened a pre emptive rage quit if he was talked to a certain way. Especialky when you takeninto context that I was talkig about the matches for the previous three or four posts, and my next post was thats not how that works. 100% pissed me off and had no reason to say that. Maybe i shouldnt of snapped and might be the meds makig me mkre agitated idk but it was dumb eother way. And i do apologize i suppose for tellig them to fuck themselves. This reaction feels super townie. On August 02 2017 04:44 Damdred wrote: which as an aside i have this horrible associative read where btdt and tt are both scum. On August 02 2017 05:24 Damdred wrote: i sort of feel like lynching into tt/df/btdt today for some reason On August 02 2017 05:32 Damdred wrote: i moved to tt for now. Just poe/gut/and his reaction to ny scum read on him and such. Plus sick plays These posts feel super scummy. That's my current problem with Damdred. | ||
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On August 02 2017 05:36 Superbia wrote: In what world is TW ever town? I put him on the town pile for something related to the missing alignment but I don't remember what it was | ||
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On August 02 2017 05:38 Superbia wrote: DF, in the world where you are town, these two posts are pretty damn scummy ^ to be perfectly honest here: the "i sort of feel" quote can very well come from town me :D but then again, I'm not the bestest of them all, right? | ||
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1. the russian stuff is super weird 2. if the russian stuff is mod-induced, it still sucks 3. "contributions" 4. in no way he's doing what town HF is doing normally 5. all the discussions are without HF although he's in a game woa that's actually a decent case. | ||
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##unvote ##vote Holyflare Yes, over CopCake and Damdred. | ||
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On August 02 2017 05:43 CopCake wrote: Well if u dont want to lynch DF how about beentheredonethat? He claimed I said I was town when I never did. Can you please bring up a quote or whatever you're basing this accusation on? | ||
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How is that a good post? We kill off someone who has a status quo of null/probably scum and who is not adding value to town. town!HF is either scummy or townie in everyone's eyes and he's super contributive .... | ||
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On August 02 2017 05:46 CopCake wrote: Either way, for the cake in the future in this phase your top scum reads were Ruxxar, BTDT and Darth, if you were right please buy yourself a butterfinger blizzard this reads like a "remember who you pretended to scumread so you don't screw up D2, you survived D1, good job" post | ||
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Yes, seriously. It's close to EoD. You probably are aware of the very post(s) that brought you to the accusation; I am obviously not. So either do it and help everyone, including people who are interested in what you're saying, out, or just shut the fuck up and don't try to shennanie me. I mean for real, do you actually WANT to lynch me? You brag about it all EoD long so far yet you're not putting in the slightest effort to achieve an actual btdt lynch. | ||
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On August 02 2017 05:48 rsoultin wrote: it's not a good scumread, frankly. coin flip. and i like me some town hf. there are other day phases Yeah, I can see that. So apparently we have a TT lynch? Who does not want TT to be lynched? | ||
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On August 02 2017 05:50 beentheredonethat wrote: Yes, seriously. It's close to EoD. You probably are aware of the very post(s) that brought you to the accusation; I am obviously not. So either do it and help everyone, including people who are interested in what you're saying, out, or just shut the fuck up and don't try to shennanie me. I mean for real, do you actually WANT to lynch me? You brag about it all EoD long so far yet you're not putting in the slightest effort to achieve an actual btdt lynch. On August 02 2017 05:51 CopCake wrote: Here And nope there is no force in the whole planet that cant stop me I WILL LYNCH BEEN THERE DONE THAT HE HAD LIED SEVERAL TIMES AND THOSE ARE FACTS So you pretend to not have read my post or did you choose to ignore it? Writing something in all caps won't bring you far (it might make you president of the united states if you do it twitter long enough, tho) | ||
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I repeat: WHO IS ABSOLUTELY OPPOSING A TICTOCK LYNCH? | ||
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On August 02 2017 05:55 beentheredonethat wrote: so no HF lynch. Okay. I repeat: WHO IS ABSOLUTELY OPPOSING A TICTOCK LYNCH? I want to point out that no answers to this probably mean that Tictock is town | ||
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On August 02 2017 05:56 CopCake wrote: This is another lie, I have lynched you before. Cho cho I must keep truth to what I think you are mafia you lie lie lie lie you even said I said you were town. Nope sorry. ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? | ||
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SHENNANIES GOGO | ||
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On August 02 2017 05:58 rsoultin wrote: he's town, trust me i know i said he was scum but he's town lol >< I trust you and I am super certain you both are town :> | ||
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On August 02 2017 06:36 Rels wrote: Peux-tu parler un langage plus civilisé ? Natürlich. Und du? | ||
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Omelette du frommage | ||
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but I don't understand it yet how is that a fliP? | ||
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On August 02 2017 07:06 Damdred wrote: @BTDT could you take me through your read progression on TT during the day phase? I have none, continued to have none, and was fine with his lynch because better him than actual town reads? didn't have locked scum :/ | ||
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On August 02 2017 07:08 ruXxar wrote: I read over the eod and the one thing that stuck in my mind is that I didn't like BTDTs behavior at all. okidoki | ||
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On August 02 2017 07:18 Damdred wrote: Follow up: You said at one point you thought conversion was scum, Is that still true? Nah, he worked his way up but you should know that it's in my filter | ||
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On August 02 2017 07:24 Damdred wrote: Honestly you just sort of drop the Conversion line of reasoning after nobody really seems interested, and then you never really talk about him again. You also do that to me a bit, you sort of sway back and forth about my lynch list etc. but come to the same conclussion as I did basically? And then suddenly call me town? Could you talk about your evolution here. I am fairly certain that DF is town. The wagons were you / TT. I wasn't impressed by your play and I still am not impressed but you appeared townier than tictock who was in thread but not even playing. | ||
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On August 02 2017 15:41 CopCake wrote: Ok I read all of the DF filter page 🙌🏻👏🏼 Pretty sure, garantee In my world that him and Beentheredonethat are mafiosi together, they are the duo that work together to be sketchy and create confusion. But there must be someone they distance to ( Like the way DF tried to distance with btdt but even better) There is something about rels, maybe... MAYBE rsoultin. Tinfoiling in a world in which DF, BTDT and Rsoultin are in quicktopic and suddenly decided to eliminate Dandred while he is mia because he is smart 🤔 BTW update on town reads Superbia ruxxar Koshi Conversion In that order Except Damdred was not lynched. I didnt even vote him in the end. Your conclusions are either weak or false. | ||
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On August 02 2017 15:29 CopCake wrote: DF is like dont lynch me I am a power role and then he is like my role is poop lmao 😂💩💩💩💤 The use of the these emojis should be forbidden I think df claimed to not get lynched, then said it's a weak role to not draw mafia kp onto his claim. I also think you slipped, and if that was no flip, you deserve to be lynched for your abysmal superficial play | ||
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On August 02 2017 19:11 Koshi wrote: btdt played extremely townie during EoD. Constantly moving his vote Rels -> Damdred/CC/TT while trying closing in on the best target. Really impressed by that. Don't think he can ever do that as mafia. This. Holyflare seems to oppose this though. | ||
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On August 02 2017 19:40 ruXxar wrote: I had the exact opposite reaction to his EOD. Felt like he just wanted to lynch anything he could. His reaction to tictock "who is against lynching tictock" was forced and scummy. Also the shenanigans seemed very forced and random. Question for HF and Rsoul, is there any way to prevent the spreading of the russian disease? It's a really shitty game mechanic(fuuuu rayn), so if there some way to stop it or reverse it, I'll do anything in my power to do so. His reaction to tictock "who is against lynching tictock" was forced and scummy. Wait. 1. It was ME who asked this question several times. It was not tictock. 2. What in the world was the "reaction" you are talking about? 3. I asked that question because it's a super high indicator that it is a town lynch if absolutely noone is against a certain lynch. Why are you calling me out on a "reaction"? | ||
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On August 02 2017 19:40 ruXxar wrote: I had the exact opposite reaction to his EOD. Felt like he just wanted to lynch anything he could. His reaction to tictock "who is against lynching tictock" was forced and scummy. Also the shenanigans seemed very forced and random. Question for HF and Rsoul, is there any way to prevent the spreading of the russian disease? It's a really shitty game mechanic(fuuuu rayn), so if there some way to stop it or reverse it, I'll do anything in my power to do so. Felt like he just wanted to lynch anything he could. ??? How can it "feel" like that when I said LITERALLY that I'm fine with Damdred and Tictock and NOT FINE with DF? How is that random? How is that "lynch anything he could"? I was there at EoD and I tried to determine which lynch would be better since I was/am certain that DF is not scum, so I evaluated Damdred and Tictock. How can it be that I left the impression of being absolutely random in my lynch targets? Also the shenanigans seemed very forced and random. if you actually read my EoD, you can clearly see that my shennanies on CopCake came as a direct reaction to his play and to me thinking that TT will flip town because nobody answered my question about who is actually opposing the TT lynch. It wasn't a surprise that TT was town but even in retrospect I think it was the correct move. | ||
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On August 02 2017 19:49 Koshi wrote: Nha I am fine with btdt. Derailing the TT wagon towards HF was bad. But I do not see mafia!btdt taking the risk knowing town TT is up for lynch, and the shennanies were never going to happen, that it just blows up in his face. It's not a good mafia play. Yeah true I'll just let you know I will not put in the effort and translate HF's post. I'm on mobile most of the times and I officially think this kiryllic thing is not a fun mechanism, on the contrary, it makes this game less enjoyable. So Koshi apparently you do translate it, would you mind posting the translation each time you check it anyways? | ||
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On August 02 2017 22:31 CopCake wrote: I think we found our distanced mafia, koshi is making no sense. If BTDT changed his votes so many times is because as a scum he knew the person he lynched wouldnt get lynched, scum counts who is winning the wagon. You and Ruxxar need to realize the following: if I am scum and happy with either lynch of TT, DF and Damdred, it clears all three of them that I am merrily jumping wagons at EoD. Do you think all of those three are town? + Show Spoiler + I hope you realized by now that I didn't merrily switch wagons because that's what both of you are currently implying. | ||
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On August 03 2017 03:09 ruXxar wrote: 1) I know it was you. That's what I said. Maybe my wording was ambiguous. 2)You seemed overly eager to find a reason to call TT town, yet you still ended up voting for him. Aka you didn't really care that he was town, you just wanted town credit when he flipped. 3) I would've stopped his lynch if I was there. I'm really sad about it, because I felt that TT trusted in me to have his back. If you're reading this TT: I'm really sorry I let you down. Your death will not be in vain. 2) I hope you realize that my vote on TT was absolutely irrelevant. The only reason I voted him was because I didn't want to eat the "BTDT WHY DIDN'T YOU COMMIT ON TT" blame if he would have flipped scum. 3) And why is that relevant to what I said at point three? | ||
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On August 02 2017 22:56 CopCake wrote: I dont understand, is there with painting sings that say "Lynch me I am mafia" and people dont do shit. Btw HolyFlare baby newspaper boy no one will harm you in my watch. That is the worst pretended "I'm a protective PR" hint I've ever seen. And I absolutely think this is a post scum would make. | ||
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On August 02 2017 22:59 VayneAuthority wrote: All I can gather is that the russian thing probably makes rsoultin town. I need to read HF's filter right now I guess, because he is precisely the type of person that would use it on himself if its mafia related and hes mafia I think it's entirely possible that a role is in that says "each phase, you can make someone speak russian, you win when everyone speaks russian". Like, a troll survivor. | ||
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On August 02 2017 23:35 CopCake wrote: I must be super dumb or something because my lock reads are darthfoley and btdt as mafia and there is no way in the whole universe atm that can make me change my mind. dude | ||
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On August 02 2017 23:37 darthfoley wrote: Okay then enjoy being wrong about me for the rest of the game. Btdt might be mafia though duuude | ||
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On August 02 2017 23:47 darthfoley wrote: I think Koshi is town. I'm getting town vibes from HF as well. Rels also struck me as town when he was posting, asking questions in the right places. ruxXar i'm pretty unsure about. He's asking just enough questions in the right places to skate by. He was supposedly gone EoD so it's hard to gauge his actions iirc. I think if CopCake is scum, VA is probably town. CopCake has made multiple "forgetful" mistakes post flip, and now she's living in a 100% Darthfoley/btdt mafia world for like no reason. The stubbornness strikes me as odd so early in the game. I still think rsoultin's 180 reversal on Damdred is weird. Damdred had kind of a scummy EoD as well. It went from Damdred is 80% scum to Damdred explains one tiny point to "Damdred is never scum here!" The progression really bugs me. SvS or TvS? Superbia has done n o t h i n g to make me think that he's town. Inb4 "i'm always terrible town or lurk mafia!" self meta analysis. Conversion hasn't done jack since Superbia's pressure got off of him. Might just be lucky mafia who skated by for the rest of D1? I'm nervous about how confident Btdt was that I was town, even with a few inconsistencies found by Rels. I didn't feel like Btdt ever considered me for the lynch, which strikes me as odd. TW kinda seemed tone from tone etc, but his EoD spooked me as well. Oh I can explain that: Your reaction to me saying "I'll quit if people start all over with the "you're bad, btdt"" thing let me think you are town. Because in the obs QT of the last game we played you were super pissed about how I played and I don't think you pull that off as scum. Then I thought that your posts made sense overall, I agreed with a lot of things and I did (do) like a lot of what you say. You're locked town for me. | ||
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I didn't want to lynch HF. I wanted (kinda want) to remove him from the game. It's absolutely annoying to have someone talk in an unreadable way, especially when on mobile. Lynch != Removal. Lynch = I case him, I think he's flipping scum. Removal = get this guy out of the game because it's annoying as fuck to play with russian letters. | ||
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like, I answered your shit, and you didn't even care about my answers, instead you switched to something that is aboslutely unconnected to what you asked previously. Start reading my answers or stop questioning, your choice. | ||
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On August 03 2017 03:14 ruXxar wrote: Your vote on TT was *absolutely necessary* to get him lynched. 7-4. Even if I had kept my vote on CopCake - 6 - 1 - 4. Would've required two people at :59 to switch to Tictock and noone was willing to do that. Keep in mind I even asked multiple times if someone is opposing that lynch! No answers, and everyone was content in lynching TT. There is no way my vote was relevant on the TT wagon but why the fuck are you saying it was? | ||
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I hope you realize the seriousness in that case. I hope you see the big effort I put in. I hope you realize that the part you bolded acknowledges the sheer amount of work I put in to build that "case" and I hope my follow up posts in the context of that case show how hard I tried to lynch Holyflare all day long. Or, you shut the fuck up and go back to imdumbCountry because that's clearly where you're trying to flee from right now | ||
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On August 03 2017 03:31 CopCake wrote: Dude, you need to realize that a town would have sticked with the most scummiest, I didnt find tick tock "scummy" but neither "townie" so I stuck with my mafia read, I dislike to jump on wagons just because. So I'm town since I sticked with the scummiest person which at the time was (you) TicTock. I actively tried to judge who'd be the better lynch and I figured it was Tictock. | ||
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Like it's even in the post that you quote: "2. if the russian stuff is mod-induced, it still sucks" | ||
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On August 03 2017 03:33 CopCake wrote: Like honestly do you think if I have a doctor role or bodyguard I would say it out loud on the thread? Do you think I am this bad for real? Nonono I don't think you're this bad On August 03 2017 03:12 beentheredonethat wrote: That is the worst pretended "I'm a protective PR" hint I've ever seen. And I absolutely think this is a post scum would make. There it is, it says pretty clearly "the worst pretended [...] hint". That sentence implies that I am scumreading you. I mean I don't want to keep you away from building up a "btdt is scum" narrative, you're free to do whatever you wanna do and I'm fairly certain that ruxxar is glad to help (because he apparently isn't good at reading comprehension) but you should definitely read what I wrote before asking if I think you're bad. | ||
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Town: Koshi, darthfoley, Damdred, rsoultin, VayneAuthority (yes that's Damdred up there with rsoultin. Let's see if it holds up. No I can't explain this read, it's like EUREKA.) Scum: Ruxxar CopCake Rest: Tumblewood Rels Holyflare Superbia Conversion no particular order | ||
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On August 03 2017 03:43 Holyflare wrote: Трахни мою жизнь. Мой фильтр. This won't work for everyone who is not a native english speaker (or has his browser settings set to english) I'm german, if I hit the translate button, it translates even the english and it's not a good translation | ||
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On August 03 2017 03:44 ruXxar wrote: Classy coming from the "stop calling me bad" dude. Sweet irony. You're right. That was unnecessary. Shame it was planned: the fact that you're poking on that instead of actually responding to what I say makes it pretty obvious that you're scum trying to tilt me . | ||
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On August 03 2017 03:47 ruXxar wrote: I'm trying to tilt you because it makes you show your true colors, making you easier to read. That's an outright lie. Ruxxar, you have asked me a lot of things now. I have answered all of them. Can you please give a conclusion and build a case on why I am scum or retract from your scumread? | ||
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On August 03 2017 03:49 CopCake wrote: Then deal with it, you lynched tick tock if you are town you make a "mistake" but why do you kept changing from one to another? I didn't hammer Tictock, I was not the decisive vote. I don't regret taking part in lynching a townie. (I wouldn't regret if I had been the hammer, too) I'm not sure how you missed it, I thought I said it pretty clearly, but I'll gather it up in one place: 1. I wanted to lynch HF because he's speaking russian and I do not like that at all, in complete disregard of his actual alignment. I don't want that mechanism in the game. 2. I wanted to lynch Damdred because I thought he was absolutely not contributing to the game and I regard him as a player who is very sharp on finding scum and who is good at this game. My impression was that his play was lackluster and missing its usual sharpness. I pointed that out several times and thus I started a wagon on him. 3. Since DF was and is locked town in my eyes, I defaulted to the wagon that is "not DF", in this case being Tictock. I said that I hadn't built a final opinion on Tictock and I did so as good as I could; and I was absolutely torn between Damdred being scum or Damdred being town (again, check my filter, there's a post where I quote my problem very specifically) 4. I couldn't understand your behaviour at EoD at all, you were just yelling a lot, making noise, apparently only being interested in chaos and derailing and not in actually determining any wagon's alignment. So I hoped to start shenanigans on you, also because the closer deadline came, the more certain I was on Tictock being town - I asked multiple times (bolded and big) if someone was hard opposing the TT lynch. Those steps 1-4 are what you call "jumping on wagons" and yes, I did switch wagons, but each switch had its reasons and they were, at least from my perspective, good ones. | ||
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On August 03 2017 03:52 Holyflare wrote: У меня была ДВА ПОЛОЖЕНИЯ ОГРАНИЧЕНИЯ НА МЕНЯ. ПОЧЕМУ НЕТ НИКАКОГО ПРИЗНАНИЯ? КАК Я МАФИЯ ЛЮБЛЮ ИЛИ ГОРОД, КОТОРЫЙ ПОЛУЧИЛ 3P И MAFIA В ОДНОМ ВРЕМЕНИ. HF yelling at people in Caps probably means he's town | ||
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On August 03 2017 03:48 beentheredonethat wrote: That's an outright lie. Ruxxar, you have asked me a lot of things now. I have answered all of them. Can you please give a conclusion and build a case on why I am scum or retract from your scumread? Tell me when you've done what I asked you to do or please go look at someone else and place your vote onto me D2. I don't want to answer your questions anymore. I think that you ask just to ask something, you're not interesting in the actual answers since you don't draw a conclusion. To be honest, you don't even remotely look like you're even reading the answers. | ||
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I'll lock HF as town now. I don't think mafia gets such limitations and if so, I'll simply give the hosts feedback that I don't like it and I find it unenjoyable. So! HF top town. | ||
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On August 03 2017 04:04 Holyflare wrote: PM Говоря, я забыл английский до дальнейшего уведомления. Кроме того, вы сказали, что это не городская HF в вашем мини-корпусе, чтобы линчевать меня и пойти на крестовый поход, чтобы линчевать меня, а теперь отредактировать это и сказать, что вы на самом деле не помнили меня? "PM Speaking, I forgot English until further notice. In addition, you said that it is not a city HF in your mini-corps to lynch me and go on a crusade to lynch me, and now edit it and say that you really did not remember me?" Use smaller sentences for the sake of being understandable. Please. | ||
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On August 03 2017 17:28 Koshi wrote: ##vote btdt Can you explain literally everything you did tonight? I wanted to shoot darthfoley because I was paranoid but switched to CopCake. I killed her and now I'm fairly useless because my role said as long as I shoot scum, I get refunded. | ||
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Russian rsoultin being killed over russian Holyflare casts a lot of shade on Holyflare. Koshi starting the day with a vote on me after hard townreading me casts a lot of shade on Koshi. Ruxxar not changing a thing means he either is super carefree town or super confident scum. Not sure yet. | ||
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On August 03 2017 05:11 ruXxar wrote: If I die, lynch either of these two: Superbia Copcake | ||
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Yes, those are the two people I said I locked them as town. The idea is: scum would kill russian HF over russian rsoultin. The fact that rsoultin apparently was the/a scum KP target points towards the russian language not being alignment indicative. So far, I thought it's a scum/3p thing to silent players. Now that rsoultin flipped, I think it's either 3p induced or mod induced. So in my world, previously, HF was town (or 3p) due to the russian stuff. But this doesn't hold up anymore. Regarding DF: I was absolutely wrong on CopCake. I can very well be absolutely wrong on DF. He was the counter wagon to Tictock and if he flips red, we can actually do some more VCA. So he definitely should be part 1 of our potential 2 (or more) wagons we have this day. Maybe even DF vs. HF wagons. | ||
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On August 03 2017 18:21 Koshi wrote: @btdt Looking at those 2 posts. I don't understand why you shot CC over Ruxxar last night. Against CC you defend like you defend vs a townie. Trying to win her over. Against Ruxxar you defend like you defend vs a mafia. aka not giving a shit about what he says. Why shoot CC then? My read on CC is: scum. My read on Ruxxar is: scum/bad town, because in every single game I played with him, he was town and doing absolutely non-town things. "Against CC you defend like you defend vs a townie. Trying to win her over." Not her. Everyone else! I was afraid that she'd be pushing me the next day along with Ruxxar/HF, both didn't like my EoD (for different reasons). So I tried to tell everyone reading the discussion between her and me why exactly I did what I did. "Against Ruxxar you defend like you defend vs a mafia. aka not giving a shit about what he says." Correct - I didn't (and don't give) a shit about what he says because I think his conclusions are either bad or nonexistant, his questions don't make sense, and interacting with him is probably a waste of time. | ||
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On August 03 2017 18:33 Koshi wrote: Ruxxar is claiming mafia in the thread and you vote HF? Ruxxar has said he's 1-shot vigi, he clearly isn't, and he clearly doesn't want to reveal more information about his role. I absolutely think he's bad town. | ||
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On August 03 2017 18:36 ruXxar wrote: My PM says I'm a "Sneaky fucking russian". it might be a hidden property of my alignment. Aaand now this. Lol. | ||
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"Also I can just say. Fuck this game. This is absolutely bullish shit. If you have a cure for the Russians, you will not have anyone, and you will fuck you, whoever you are." | ||
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On August 03 2017 18:45 Koshi wrote: btdt looks so fucking bad with his vote on HF. Ruxxar literally claims mafia in the thread and it is proven with game mechanics and he wants to lynch within HF + DF. That's like too bad to be bad town. I do agree that my HF vote is bad, so I unvoted and I'm voting Ruxxar. "Too bad to be bad town" - that statement is over the top . | ||
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On August 03 2017 20:37 Holyflare wrote: Я называю вас мафией или, по крайней мере, 3p. Я думаю, что ваша сила - это что-то вроде отложенного кп для русских людей. Вы - морфеус и можете сделать «предложение», и поскольку это не лекарство, и вы не исцелили меня, и вы сказали, что дали «rsoultin» «выбор». Я думаю, вероятно, что выбор, вероятно, либо умрет, либо что-то плохое. I think if he was indeed 3p, he wouldn't have crumbed that so hardcore in thread. Morpheus is Neo-aligned (pretty hard Neo-aligned even) and I think having the role of Morpheus means the alignment "town". | ||
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On August 03 2017 20:42 Rels wrote: lol DF were scumreads by all thread dead. Dead players scumread: DF: rsoul, cake, superbia ruxxar cake (weak), superbia TW: rsoul (weak), superbia (weak) BTDT: cake VA: rsoul Yes but Cake was killed by me, so this list would be more accurate if you look for scum based on kills: DF: rsoul, superbia ruxxar: superbia TW: rsoul (weak), superbia (weak) Night kills point towards DF. | ||
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On August 03 2017 20:43 Rels wrote: again that means nothing. And there is already a counter example in the game. Mr Smith is a bad guy but was town. Oh right I completely forgot about that :D | ||
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On August 03 2017 20:46 beentheredonethat wrote: Oh right I completely forgot about that :D Nevertheless, crumbing is a town thing. I don't see a scum Morpheus crumbing his role in thread when he KNOWS there is Anderson and Smith in. | ||
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On August 03 2017 20:48 Rels wrote: That's what I thought at first, but ruxxar claims to have tried to shot her with vodka + matches. So you don't believe my claim? | ||
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On August 03 2017 21:01 Rels wrote: Yes I think I believe it. What I mean is that even if you're town and you shot her, scum!ruxxar also tried to shoot her. So you can't eliminate her from the "shot by scum" list. Why would scum ever shoot CopCake though? She's far from being widely townread, she wasn't even hunting someone that is not me, and even the points she had on me were, in retrospect, rather OMGUS than actual points. The real question here is why rsoultin is dead. | ||
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I'll have you guys know that I cannot read the majority of the russian stuff because it's fucking too much effort. | ||
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On July 30 2017 22:56 Damdred wrote: Since most of us if not all of us do not know alignments, there is 0 way we can play the game until we do. Unless we just rng the lynch onto btdt "we can't play the game lets kill btdt" On July 31 2017 08:07 Damdred wrote: I am not tumble but I feel like taking a crack at this. 1) Honestly we shoudl forget about the role shenanigans that is going on and we should just try to play normally, there is a lot of times that theme'd games just devolve into a mechanics guessing game and town loses because of it. 2) Until we got our pm i think we can throw out, or ignore it. Unless a real argument could be made when as far as we know 100% of town didn't know what was going on and everything was trolling to start with. I have received two PMs. 1) "You don't remember your alignment" 2) "You're town, here's your superpower" (not exact quotes) Did Damdred only receive one PM? On July 31 2017 08:34 Damdred wrote: We can't play on what ifs however, and more than likely mafia did not know any more than town did that nobody would or would not know alignment. And yes its a good logical conclusion that if scum knew its alignment they would start with I am town instead of IDK whats going on exactly here. This is odd - also because it is false. If scum knew its alignment, they would've known that town players cannot remember their alignment for the time being. Because if that is not the case, the game would be super unbalanced and potentially scum would slip during the first 24 hours of the game ("Hi, I'm town" vs "dude, I dunno my alignment"). I don't know why Damdred is not seeing it; he should be seeing it. On July 31 2017 23:16 Damdred wrote: Town: Rsoultin Koshi Superbia Probably town: Cupcake Rux Conversion Gut town: VA Hf Nd I my roleolay baby, no clue about his alignment. I'm ignoring btdt alignment for a little bit because I'm a bit torn by his postings. Part of me thinks he is more town oriented just by the tone, his bull dogish nature. And some of his posts have a pretty clear indicator what has going after and I don't see scum motivation in it. But his postings about how he will rage felt slightly disemgenous but his explanation for them was ok and I understand the point. So typing this out I'd probably not lynch him ever today. Tt I think is scum so far. Not really stand in out doing things and just giving items away to get on rux good side it seems. Two of Damdred's D1 town reads die N1. Also how weird of a townread is what he says about me? He's torn about me but not lynching me "probably" and "ever" today? This is like "I wanna townread this guy but I want to be able to call him scum later on without being suspected". On August 02 2017 03:47 Damdred wrote: yeah kill the damdred dude. He probably deserves it tbh. but just in case it does happen and i actually die here are them sick reads. copcake is always town, never scum ( or very very rarely). The first substantial thing she does is go against thread sentiment and bring attention to herself. While cop might be a good scum player (she is btw), I thinkbit woild be better if scum would fit in at that juncture and not draw a suoer amount of attention. And then when shebis pushed proded and generally called scum, she does not drop it. She fights for her view and uses it to scum read people. She is super focused om her reads and keeps drawing peoples attention to them throughout d1, you can tell ahe cares about her reads and honestly thats towny. Her re evaluation of ruxxar also points to town. The final piece is that she is the first tin hatbin the thread, tgis is the weakest point but thebither parts make he town ajyway. More reads xoming in a sec Now here comes the odd part. This post looks super townie, right? Over the course of D1, Damdred has said: 1. Superbia is town (followed up later by another "I like this" quote) 2. Copcake is "never scum" 3. rsoultin is "always town" And the night kills are Superbia and rsoultin. And Copcake flips town as well. So Damdred's D1 is correct in 3 out of 3 occasions. Damdred reads 3 players absolutely correctly while having 2(!) pages of filter. He apparently is reading the game but he is not typing much. All his reads are town reads. He is not pushing for any of his scumreads (since TT flipped scum, he should push DF!) And you might say now that "Wait, he scumread TT, and TT flipped town, so he's only 3/4 reads correct D1" - but is he? his second post in the game is "Tictock is scum". He didn't reconsider at any moment. I'm super confident that Damdred's plan was to lynch TT all along OR he was perfectly fine with that lynch because he knew it was town. His reads reek of TMI and his whole behaviour is not townie at all. | ||
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On August 04 2017 03:10 Holyflare wrote: Сегодня ничто не будет лучше, чем Ruxxar lynch. Literally everything is better than auto-ing on Ruxxar. Also I'm not 100% sold on him being scum, him playing boldly/badly fits the picture I have of him all game. | ||
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On August 04 2017 03:25 darthfoley wrote: I'm getting behind the wheel soon so idk how active I'll be. I don't text and drive Hashtag responsible citizen Can you not make such posts? They are scummy. | ||
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And also the btdt thing is really bad really, like mega bad." ok Damdred. Go fuck yourself. | ||
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On August 04 2017 03:37 Conversion wrote: could have just gone MIA tbh like half of this town is can you explain how this is scummy? you've been saying it all game and I'm still confused What exactly have I been saying all game? I think saying "I'll drive now" is scummy because it feels forced. | ||
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On August 04 2017 03:39 beentheredonethat wrote: What exactly have I been saying all game? I think saying "I'll drive now" is scummy because it feels forced. For example I also found Koshi's "i will take a nap" scummy. | ||
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On August 04 2017 05:03 Koshi wrote: Lynching Damdred is more tempting than Ruxxar atm. Do it. Should scum!Ruxxar survive due to that => nominate btdt once more for worst town performance 2017 award Should town!Ruxxar survive due to that => nominate ruxxar for worst town performance 2017 award win win | ||
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1. ruxxar flips town 2. HF/Koshi start pushing me 3. I get lynched over Damdred Then direct all KP you have to Holyflare and Koshi if they keep staying alive. | ||
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On August 05 2017 00:28 Holyflare wrote: Я не читал, что писал Х.Ф., но вот о нем читал. Лол. Before I go: Fuck you. Fuck your arrogant way of doing stuff. Fuck your toxic insults, fuck your abysmal bullshittery. Of course I have skimmed the QT. I did not read into every little detail of what you said, I didn't even have the time to do so. But I have seen your frustration about talking russian. I see the chain of posts you did. And I townread you for it. If you want to belittle me because I dare to give a read, then keep going, but if you were in front of me in real life right now, I'd punch you in your fucking face and I'd feel great about it. You are an arrogant fuck, Holyflare, and you're so confident in being the best out there that I have enough. | ||
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On August 06 2017 00:11 beentheredonethat wrote: Someone visited me. I want the person who did it to claim it right now. | ||
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On August 05 2017 07:12 Koshi wrote: Well hosts fucked up and didnt give me a full report. I saw Koshi, ruXxar, Tumblewood, beentheredonethat, CopCake visit copcake on N1. You can ask rayn I suppose.... Because that is a pretty big fuck up. I also learned about my role n1 and I learned I was a miller and somebody decides the items I am sending. Which I need to do each night. Maybe somebody can confirm the latter. I suspect I am a miller that sees ecerybody the person I randomly visit. Weird role but that is what makes sense to me. I sae myself visit Conversion today but I didnt put him on fire. I kinda should have crumbed I was a miller I guess.. I don't believe this | ||
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ok I misinterpreted what the host answered me, and I have received clearance on that -.- yes, hosts fucked up. | ||
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Damdred Rels HF. Its impossible in terms of effort to translate it everytime. I will now auto-move every russian speaker on my town pile. If that fucks up the game, so be it. If it hits me, I will get modkilled since I will not start writing all kiryllic. | ||
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I cannot make myself the King nor can I make the player who made me Kingmake the King, so I had to submit two names, one for backup in case I hit the one who made me Kingmaker. I have submitted two names. I expect a Damdred lynch because before he spoke russian, I had him as scum. Auto-ing someone to town actually is a bad idea, so I won't do it. Instead I'll keep my reads where they've been before the people started speaking russian: 1. Rels null 2. Damdred scum 3. Holyflare town | ||
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On August 06 2017 06:33 Koshi wrote: I saw btdt saw VA AGAIN! Second time he vists a townie that dies. ##vote btdt On August 06 2017 06:34 Koshi wrote: I am wrong. I saw btdt visit conversion. Sry. Still also a townie I visited neither this night. I ##learned this night. I have learnt that there is nothing to learn. I made Holyflare king and he's supposed to ##lynch Damdred. Let's see if he does it. My backup choice (in case HF was the kingmaker-maker) was Conversion. Should HF be scum this game is over. Should Damdred not be scum, this game is over as I expect a ##lynch Damdred. Scumteam: Damdred Tumblewood Koshi (darthfoley) | ||
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On August 06 2017 06:49 Holyflare wrote: Damdred вернула мафию. Но я узнал свою роль n1 и узнал, что я сумасшедший. Но теперь я действительно трахаюсь. If you don't do ##lynch Damdred immediately then you know what's gonna happen | ||
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On August 06 2017 06:51 beentheredonethat wrote: If you don't do ##lynch Damdred immediately then you know what's gonna happen HF claimed cop in the QT. He says "Damdred returned the mafia". And in the QT he says: "Damdred is town. You killed conversion." | ||
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I have townread hf for speaking russian and being mad about it. For no other reason. | ||
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On August 06 2017 08:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Me neither, Koshi draw you the shortest stick. You were basically a townie who is actually a serial killer without knowing it. Yep which is why I claimed one shot vig so early. And killed Morpheus. | ||
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On August 06 2017 08:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: No, btdt winning required game ending AND everyone in the QT being dead. He could've won with mafia though in a specific scenario where he gets endgamed 1-1 vs mafia and is alive and there is noone in the real world QT. Unfortunately he got himself there so winning the game in any place would have required him dying or killing himself... If I get endgamed vs 1 mafia and mafia wins I still lose because town lost? | ||
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On August 06 2017 08:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Technically yes, i would have given you a win in that case though, especially if it was night phase since you have a gun. Well that's super specific^^ I think I improved my town game a bit compaired to my last town game though. | ||
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On August 06 2017 08:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: I mean the people who are saying "mafia was super powerful", after the disaster in N1, on N2 btdt was almost going to King Conversion and shoot Koshi. How do you guys think the game would have gone with let's say VA using his vest too so there was no town deaths N2, Koshi dies and it is revealed he had picked his teammates? The game was basically decided on N2. Yeah. Hf would be dead. Rels maybe. | ||
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On August 06 2017 08:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: Probably yes. I didn't realize how much people play on their phones these days. After that it is just all about effort. I put hf on the town pile for this reason alone. | ||
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But the mechanic itself makes this game unplayable. I didnt read rels, rsoul, hf and Damdred as soom as they spoke russian. | ||
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On August 06 2017 08:44 Damdred wrote: Also just as a suggestion, when you are made a king maker you should give the person a few hours or at least 18 hours to put some thoughts in the thread. I had to give it N2 and it counted for D3. Couldn't do much else. | ||
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