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On August 01 2017 23:26 beentheredonethat wrote:Ok tell me how it works then or, show me, by playing townie and being contributive. right now, the thing you're contributing the most is bad spelling
AMEN
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On August 01 2017 23:24 darthfoley wrote: I'm not particularly interested in breakfast Rels, but what did you have to eat this morning? lol nothing, sorry to disappoint p: Can you answer this:
On August 01 2017 20:53 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 15:15 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 13:41 rsoultin wrote:On July 31 2017 07:04 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 07:00 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 06:57 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 06:51 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 06:46 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 06:36 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 06:35 darthfoley wrote: [quote]
You seem very concerned with this question. Why shouldnt he be? Its a perfectly valid concern. Not really. It'll be resolved when it's resolved. I trust our Great Leaders of Arstotzka and I will not question them. Its a pretty important part of the game that has a big impact on how you play. It's also very unusual, so it being a topic of interest shouldn't be a surprise. What is interesting is whether or not mafia got to know their alignment from the start. People not knowing their alignment means that you cannot evaluate their play as mafia no matter how scummy they look. I just don't see the point of the question. We were not given a role at the start of the game. Why would anyone in the minority who may have gotten a defined role would ever admit to it and single themselves out. Seems like a "I'm helping the town" question that's relatively useless especially at this point in the game The question may be pointless in itself, but the concern is valid. Do you think it's scummy? Yea I think it's scummy. One for context, and two because I want btdt to call me names and rage I'm more curious why Btdt is getting so much of your attention. Why him? You mean like three whole posts? Mainly because I was asked to explain a read, and I personally detest his rage-induced blow ups every game. And the fact that he's already threatened to do so before everyone even gets role PMs irks me. His play feels scummy. I was in the car for 9 hours yesterday so I'll be able to play more today. ?? BTDT does something before everyone even gets role PMs but he's scummy anyway ?
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On August 01 2017 23:22 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2017 23:11 darthfoley wrote:On August 01 2017 22:32 Conversion wrote:although if it isn't an interesting fact I guess it might not be any good information DF where are you On August 01 2017 21:08 Conversion wrote:On August 01 2017 00:40 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 23:34 Koshi wrote:On July 31 2017 23:22 darthfoley wrote: Koshi, come help me understand Superbia and btdt. Allow me to enter into your Belgian cranium and utilize the little gray cells What do you need help with? Both are playing quite straight forward atm. I don't know whether Superbia's pressure on Conversion is good town play or good mafia play, basically. Conversion's entrance is pretty shit, but I get the feeling Superbia vs. Conversion is TvM but i'm not sure who's who. Who are your town reads? DF any more thoughts on me vs Superbia? Yes, hi. I'm more satisfied calling you town than Superbia. I actually think there is quite a decent chance Superbia is mafia. Reading through his filter, it's just a whole lot of nothing-burger, as Van Jones might say. No scumhunting, not really interacting with people, and the questions he does ask are quite mediocre. I would also like to extend my sincerest apologies to ruxxar. I think you're probably town now. I think the original TvM thought was interesting. Can you go over why you thought this?
Your original post
+ Show Spoiler +On July 31 2017 20:45 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 20:38 Conversion wrote: also BTDT pushing me as scum per usual, willing to townread him b/c I made the mistake of taking his overzealousness as mafia and he ended up being town
Superbia, king of less than 20 word posts and calling HF fluff while you post nothing substantial-- can you explain why I'm your #1 lynch?
Your opening posts were shit. 1. This: Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 06:30 Conversion wrote: so far lots of yelling about lynch vs no lynch, for some reason HF became the protagonist of papers please, and one person thinks I'm mafia bc I'm a dumbass and didn't check for when this game started is a pointless summary to seem active (imo). 2. You don't comment whatsoever about the fact that most of us (apparently) did not get an alignment d1.0 and only got an alignment at d1.333. Which suggests to me that you do not belong to this boat or that you at least do not feel comfortable discussing it.
Reminds me of a similar catch that I had on Xatalos last time I played. Sometimes you just get a mafia from the outset. I thought your first point was good, and your second point was a reach. The second point, which I don't really put much stock into, was then discussed even further in another post of yours.
+ Show Spoiler +On July 31 2017 20:57 Superbia wrote: I'm also not talking about you knowing your alignment.
I'm talking about the fact that apparently (no one claimed otherwise) everyone started off with a role pm saying "you don't have a role/alignment, lol". And only got their role pm later (again, no one is claiming otherwise). WHICH SUGGESTS one of the following scenarios (excl 3rd p): 1. Both town and mafia were in the exact same scenario. 2. Only town was in the exact same scenario
You don't comment on this "unknown" role PM stuff nor the "getting a role" 24h later pm.
As town Conversion I expect the following: "Oh 2 PMs, I must've missed the start of the game?" "Oh wtf, one pm says I'm town but the other says I forgot my role. Wtf?" "Let me catch up." "Oh I see other people have this as well, this seems relevant to the game, let's comment on it"
Instead you ignore it which just seems ultra fishy for someone who JUST read his TWO (right!?) PMs and is catching up.
I don't think the second point makes Conversion mafia, considering I played the opening similarly. I made one slight reference to forgetting my role, but I didn't waste my time openly admitting to not having a role in stuff. Didn't care about whatever cred it could get me. Got a similar feeling from Conversion, whose tone just seems townie (frustration, being obstinate, following up on things I said I would do.) If I were mafia, I would pounce on town!Conversion's bad opening and try to add fluff around it (point 2). Alternatively, maybe you just got him.
My opinion of you being more likely mafia is further bolstered by the fact that you've done jack diddly shit since right after the roles were distributed. You went from big posts to one-liners in an awfully awkward way.
Hence, I think you're more likely mafia
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Yo DF why was Conv vs me TvM in your eyes?
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On August 01 2017 23:29 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2017 23:24 darthfoley wrote: I'm not particularly interested in breakfast Rels, but what did you have to eat this morning? lol nothing, sorry to disappoint p: Can you answer this: Show nested quote +On August 01 2017 20:53 Rels wrote:On July 31 2017 15:15 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 13:41 rsoultin wrote:On July 31 2017 07:04 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 07:00 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 06:57 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 06:51 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 06:46 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 06:36 ruXxar wrote: [quote]
Why shouldnt he be? Its a perfectly valid concern. Not really. It'll be resolved when it's resolved. I trust our Great Leaders of Arstotzka and I will not question them. Its a pretty important part of the game that has a big impact on how you play. It's also very unusual, so it being a topic of interest shouldn't be a surprise. What is interesting is whether or not mafia got to know their alignment from the start. People not knowing their alignment means that you cannot evaluate their play as mafia no matter how scummy they look. I just don't see the point of the question. We were not given a role at the start of the game. Why would anyone in the minority who may have gotten a defined role would ever admit to it and single themselves out. Seems like a "I'm helping the town" question that's relatively useless especially at this point in the game The question may be pointless in itself, but the concern is valid. Do you think it's scummy? Yea I think it's scummy. One for context, and two because I want btdt to call me names and rage I'm more curious why Btdt is getting so much of your attention. Why him? You mean like three whole posts? Mainly because I was asked to explain a read, and I personally detest his rage-induced blow ups every game. And the fact that he's already threatened to do so before everyone even gets role PMs irks me. His play feels scummy. I was in the car for 9 hours yesterday so I'll be able to play more today. ?? BTDT does something before everyone even gets role PMs but he's scummy anyway ?
Good find. Idk what I was really thinking tbh. I think it was mainly btdt pissing me off and me trying to fit him into the scum box because of last game lol
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On August 01 2017 23:32 Superbia wrote: Yo DF why was Conv vs me TvM in your eyes?
read above
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On August 01 2017 23:08 VayneAuthority wrote: so im guessing conversion has some sort of LSD flavor in his role as well given his TMI slip there, interesting
no I just recalled mistakenly that you saying you don't have it for some reason, as ruxxar pointed out you never said that
also superbia he mentioned the original TvM case, you can look into his filter instead of prodding him to post his opinions. I was only interested in seeing if he still thought it/updated his stance on things
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On August 01 2017 23:32 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2017 23:22 Superbia wrote:On August 01 2017 23:11 darthfoley wrote:On August 01 2017 22:32 Conversion wrote:although if it isn't an interesting fact I guess it might not be any good information DF where are you On August 01 2017 21:08 Conversion wrote:On August 01 2017 00:40 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 23:34 Koshi wrote:On July 31 2017 23:22 darthfoley wrote: Koshi, come help me understand Superbia and btdt. Allow me to enter into your Belgian cranium and utilize the little gray cells What do you need help with? Both are playing quite straight forward atm. I don't know whether Superbia's pressure on Conversion is good town play or good mafia play, basically. Conversion's entrance is pretty shit, but I get the feeling Superbia vs. Conversion is TvM but i'm not sure who's who. Who are your town reads? DF any more thoughts on me vs Superbia? Yes, hi. I'm more satisfied calling you town than Superbia. I actually think there is quite a decent chance Superbia is mafia. Reading through his filter, it's just a whole lot of nothing-burger, as Van Jones might say. No scumhunting, not really interacting with people, and the questions he does ask are quite mediocre. I would also like to extend my sincerest apologies to ruxxar. I think you're probably town now. I think the original TvM thought was interesting. Can you go over why you thought this? Your original post + Show Spoiler +On July 31 2017 20:45 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 20:38 Conversion wrote: also BTDT pushing me as scum per usual, willing to townread him b/c I made the mistake of taking his overzealousness as mafia and he ended up being town
Superbia, king of less than 20 word posts and calling HF fluff while you post nothing substantial-- can you explain why I'm your #1 lynch?
Your opening posts were shit. 1. This: Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 06:30 Conversion wrote: so far lots of yelling about lynch vs no lynch, for some reason HF became the protagonist of papers please, and one person thinks I'm mafia bc I'm a dumbass and didn't check for when this game started is a pointless summary to seem active (imo). 2. You don't comment whatsoever about the fact that most of us (apparently) did not get an alignment d1.0 and only got an alignment at d1.333. Which suggests to me that you do not belong to this boat or that you at least do not feel comfortable discussing it. Reminds me of a similar catch that I had on Xatalos last time I played. Sometimes you just get a mafia from the outset. I thought your first point was good, and your second point was a reach. The second point, which I don't really put much stock into, was then discussed even further in another post of yours. + Show Spoiler +On July 31 2017 20:57 Superbia wrote: I'm also not talking about you knowing your alignment.
I'm talking about the fact that apparently (no one claimed otherwise) everyone started off with a role pm saying "you don't have a role/alignment, lol". And only got their role pm later (again, no one is claiming otherwise). WHICH SUGGESTS one of the following scenarios (excl 3rd p): 1. Both town and mafia were in the exact same scenario. 2. Only town was in the exact same scenario
You don't comment on this "unknown" role PM stuff nor the "getting a role" 24h later pm.
As town Conversion I expect the following: "Oh 2 PMs, I must've missed the start of the game?" "Oh wtf, one pm says I'm town but the other says I forgot my role. Wtf?" "Let me catch up." "Oh I see other people have this as well, this seems relevant to the game, let's comment on it"
Instead you ignore it which just seems ultra fishy for someone who JUST read his TWO (right!?) PMs and is catching up. I don't think the second point makes Conversion mafia, considering I played the opening similarly. I made one slight reference to forgetting my role, but I didn't waste my time openly admitting to not having a role in stuff. Didn't care about whatever cred it could get me. Got a similar feeling from Conversion, whose tone just seems townie (frustration, being obstinate, following up on things I said I would do.) If I were mafia, I would pounce on town!Conversion's bad opening and try to add fluff around it (point 2). Alternatively, maybe you just got him. My opinion of you being more likely mafia is further bolstered by the fact that you've done jack diddly shit since right after the roles were distributed. You went from big posts to one-liners in an awfully awkward way. Hence, I think you're more likely mafia
And why is Town vs Mafia more likely than Town vs Town?
You initially called me vs Conv town vs mafia but you had no idea which was which. This is not explained at all in your post.
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On August 01 2017 00:40 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 23:34 Koshi wrote:On July 31 2017 23:22 darthfoley wrote: Koshi, come help me understand Superbia and btdt. Allow me to enter into your Belgian cranium and utilize the little gray cells What do you need help with? Both are playing quite straight forward atm. I don't know whether Superbia's pressure on Conversion is good town play or good mafia play, basically. Conversion's entrance is pretty shit, but I get the feeling Superbia vs. Conversion is TvM but i'm not sure who's who. Who are your town reads?
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On August 01 2017 23:20 Rels wrote: DF you're caught up ?
Yes, I should be.
As of now, I think (town to mafia)
TW Koshi ruxx Rels ------- Conversion rsoultin VA HF ------- CC Superbia Damdred TT
Look at that symmetry
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On August 01 2017 23:37 darthfoley wrote:Yes, I should be. As of now, I think (town to mafia) TW Koshi ruxx Rels ------- Conversion rsoultin VA HF ------- CC Superbia Damdred TT Look at that symmetry
No opinion on BTDT? I find that very strange.
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Otherwise it's a pretty ok list.
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On August 01 2017 23:38 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2017 23:37 darthfoley wrote:On August 01 2017 23:20 Rels wrote: DF you're caught up ? Yes, I should be. As of now, I think (town to mafia) TW Koshi ruxx Rels ------- Conversion rsoultin VA HF ------- CC Superbia Damdred TT Look at that symmetry No opinion on BTDT? I find that very strange.
Oh crap, I knew I forgot someone. He'd probably be under Rels or above Conversion. I thought he was much more town earlier, but he's kinda trailed off since
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On August 01 2017 23:40 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2017 23:38 ruXxar wrote:On August 01 2017 23:37 darthfoley wrote:On August 01 2017 23:20 Rels wrote: DF you're caught up ? Yes, I should be. As of now, I think (town to mafia) TW Koshi ruxx Rels ------- Conversion rsoultin VA HF ------- CC Superbia Damdred TT Look at that symmetry No opinion on BTDT? I find that very strange. Oh crap, I knew I forgot someone. He'd probably be under Rels or above Conversion. I thought he was much more town earlier, but he's kinda trailed off since
Gotcha.
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I'm not sure why do many people have to be disparaging towards my fast fingers and my phone keyboard.
Literally has no purpose but to be rude and honestly irritating. And if you think that being that way towards me will hasten my speed of doing things, I promplu sa gofuck yourself and have a nice day.
Now goodbye for now
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I think it's a little alarming that I can't remember what rsoultin wants to do today. Looking over her filter, two posts have really irked me (spoiler: they both involve me).
On July 31 2017 13:37 rsoultin wrote:Given change and my own pm, this point would be where to start reading from. Don't necessarily agree that nothing can be gained from the first 24 hours, but there's a slim possibility we were being massively host-trolled and I doubt scum can only give itself away in the first 24 hours, so I'm fine with parking on my early reads for the moment. Also just really want to spite-lynch Conversion/DF. Not even sure that their behavior isn't more town-indicative, to be frank. But then again, when scum team hf/bugs/etc. were trying to throw me off my game they deliberately picked fights with me, so it's not outside scum wheelhouse, either. Probably going to sit on that, too. Would be fun to lynch.
Also, cake, you have a point that people keep appealing to me...though I am very curious what you think an 'rsoultin verse' looks like. I know I sure as hell can't remember your townplay for shit...I don't even think I've seen it in forum mafia? Were you town in Slam's ruined game that HF was smurfing in? -too lazy to check-
I never picked a fight with her? This was just an odd way to include me.
On August 01 2017 13:46 rsoultin wrote: Ooookay, where am I at?
Koshi, BTDT - town
Superbia, VA, Tumble - townish (at least enough for a d1 pass)
HF, Rels - not lynching...I still kind of get a town lean off Holyflare, if only because I don't see his scum game as 'let's see how long I can dick around'...could be 3rd party maybe? Rels is pure RNG when he's notorious for not being around D1.
That leaves DF, Cake, Damdy, Ruxxy, TT, Conversion which is still waaaay too many people I'm just not sure on @.@
I think my preferred lynch right now is TT...and to be fair DF should probably be higher because I doubt I lynch him over the other 4
Pffft I actually don't think the bottom 5 contains all of mafia but I guess we can cross that bridge when we get there. Yeah, let's flip TT. Gonna poke around in some filters and see if I can't settle some question marks better.
And now she promises to try and filter dive previous games that Koshi selects for her. It really feels awkward to me how she continues to include me while admitting she shouldn't. It gives her the option of hammering me if the wind starts to blow my way.
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On August 01 2017 23:34 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2017 23:29 Rels wrote:On August 01 2017 23:24 darthfoley wrote: I'm not particularly interested in breakfast Rels, but what did you have to eat this morning? lol nothing, sorry to disappoint p: Can you answer this: On August 01 2017 20:53 Rels wrote:On July 31 2017 15:15 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 13:41 rsoultin wrote:On July 31 2017 07:04 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 07:00 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 06:57 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 06:51 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 06:46 darthfoley wrote: [quote]
Not really. It'll be resolved when it's resolved. I trust our Great Leaders of Arstotzka and I will not question them. Its a pretty important part of the game that has a big impact on how you play. It's also very unusual, so it being a topic of interest shouldn't be a surprise. What is interesting is whether or not mafia got to know their alignment from the start. People not knowing their alignment means that you cannot evaluate their play as mafia no matter how scummy they look. I just don't see the point of the question. We were not given a role at the start of the game. Why would anyone in the minority who may have gotten a defined role would ever admit to it and single themselves out. Seems like a "I'm helping the town" question that's relatively useless especially at this point in the game The question may be pointless in itself, but the concern is valid. Do you think it's scummy? Yea I think it's scummy. One for context, and two because I want btdt to call me names and rage I'm more curious why Btdt is getting so much of your attention. Why him? You mean like three whole posts? Mainly because I was asked to explain a read, and I personally detest his rage-induced blow ups every game. And the fact that he's already threatened to do so before everyone even gets role PMs irks me. His play feels scummy. I was in the car for 9 hours yesterday so I'll be able to play more today. ?? BTDT does something before everyone even gets role PMs but he's scummy anyway ? Good find. Idk what I was really thinking tbh. I think it was mainly btdt pissing me off and me trying to fit him into the scum box because of last game lol lol. Sorry I have a hard time believing that. But since you're here let's talk
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CopCake has really fallen off since I called ruxX vs. CC out for being too focused on each other. Rux has been able to transition to discussing other people, while CopCake has struggled
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On August 01 2017 23:34 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2017 23:32 darthfoley wrote:On August 01 2017 23:22 Superbia wrote:On August 01 2017 23:11 darthfoley wrote:On August 01 2017 22:32 Conversion wrote:although if it isn't an interesting fact I guess it might not be any good information DF where are you On August 01 2017 21:08 Conversion wrote:On August 01 2017 00:40 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 23:34 Koshi wrote:On July 31 2017 23:22 darthfoley wrote: Koshi, come help me understand Superbia and btdt. Allow me to enter into your Belgian cranium and utilize the little gray cells What do you need help with? Both are playing quite straight forward atm. I don't know whether Superbia's pressure on Conversion is good town play or good mafia play, basically. Conversion's entrance is pretty shit, but I get the feeling Superbia vs. Conversion is TvM but i'm not sure who's who. Who are your town reads? DF any more thoughts on me vs Superbia? Yes, hi. I'm more satisfied calling you town than Superbia. I actually think there is quite a decent chance Superbia is mafia. Reading through his filter, it's just a whole lot of nothing-burger, as Van Jones might say. No scumhunting, not really interacting with people, and the questions he does ask are quite mediocre. I would also like to extend my sincerest apologies to ruxxar. I think you're probably town now. I think the original TvM thought was interesting. Can you go over why you thought this? Your original post + Show Spoiler +On July 31 2017 20:45 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 20:38 Conversion wrote: also BTDT pushing me as scum per usual, willing to townread him b/c I made the mistake of taking his overzealousness as mafia and he ended up being town
Superbia, king of less than 20 word posts and calling HF fluff while you post nothing substantial-- can you explain why I'm your #1 lynch?
Your opening posts were shit. 1. This: Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 06:30 Conversion wrote: so far lots of yelling about lynch vs no lynch, for some reason HF became the protagonist of papers please, and one person thinks I'm mafia bc I'm a dumbass and didn't check for when this game started is a pointless summary to seem active (imo). 2. You don't comment whatsoever about the fact that most of us (apparently) did not get an alignment d1.0 and only got an alignment at d1.333. Which suggests to me that you do not belong to this boat or that you at least do not feel comfortable discussing it. Reminds me of a similar catch that I had on Xatalos last time I played. Sometimes you just get a mafia from the outset. I thought your first point was good, and your second point was a reach. The second point, which I don't really put much stock into, was then discussed even further in another post of yours. + Show Spoiler +On July 31 2017 20:57 Superbia wrote: I'm also not talking about you knowing your alignment.
I'm talking about the fact that apparently (no one claimed otherwise) everyone started off with a role pm saying "you don't have a role/alignment, lol". And only got their role pm later (again, no one is claiming otherwise). WHICH SUGGESTS one of the following scenarios (excl 3rd p): 1. Both town and mafia were in the exact same scenario. 2. Only town was in the exact same scenario
You don't comment on this "unknown" role PM stuff nor the "getting a role" 24h later pm.
As town Conversion I expect the following: "Oh 2 PMs, I must've missed the start of the game?" "Oh wtf, one pm says I'm town but the other says I forgot my role. Wtf?" "Let me catch up." "Oh I see other people have this as well, this seems relevant to the game, let's comment on it"
Instead you ignore it which just seems ultra fishy for someone who JUST read his TWO (right!?) PMs and is catching up. I don't think the second point makes Conversion mafia, considering I played the opening similarly. I made one slight reference to forgetting my role, but I didn't waste my time openly admitting to not having a role in stuff. Didn't care about whatever cred it could get me. Got a similar feeling from Conversion, whose tone just seems townie (frustration, being obstinate, following up on things I said I would do.) If I were mafia, I would pounce on town!Conversion's bad opening and try to add fluff around it (point 2). Alternatively, maybe you just got him. My opinion of you being more likely mafia is further bolstered by the fact that you've done jack diddly shit since right after the roles were distributed. You went from big posts to one-liners in an awfully awkward way. Hence, I think you're more likely mafia And why is Town vs Mafia more likely than Town vs Town? You initially called me vs Conv town vs mafia but you had no idea which was which. This is not explained at all in your post.
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