[T] CCCP Mafia - Page 2

rsoultin

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July 30 2017 17:55 GMT

#181

On July 31 2017 02:53 Tictock wrote:
Rsoul, what in this world view makes you think I didn't check Scum QT?

Also what makes you think I know what I am doing more now than earlier?

I'm not on trial lol. Ask me when I know my alignment

(You claimed town. Weak reason, but still notable. Now you seem to know not to. Simple as that.)

rsoultin

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July 30 2017 18:26 GMT

#188

On July 31 2017 03:04 Holyflare wrote:

ENTRY GRANTED

Welcome to the Motherland, comrade. You have been granted the role of Passport Official. Once per cycle you may renew a passport with ##Renew: Player Name. Make sure to do thorough background checks on fellow citizens beforehand. Players with unknown origins or terrorist links are a direct threat to the Motherland and will reflect badly on your end of term review. A bad review is punishable by termination (of life).

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Passport Official:

Once per cycle you may type ##Renew: Player Name to renew one player's passport. Make sure that you interrogate them fully before doing so because any terrorists let through reflect badly on yourself and will result in your dismissal from the Motherland, permanently.

Each new accepted citizen will be assigned a new role in Arstotzka, naturally.

Glory to Arstotzka.

lolwut?

rsoultin

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July 30 2017 18:29 GMT

#189

On July 31 2017 03:04 CopCake wrote:

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I am confused. Like you are telling me that I should not convince YOU that there are people that know their roles? :psyduck and that people who are acting fluffy are the ones who are more town with no care? How in the world? Like you are telling me that I AM MAFIA but you are 100% sure that no one has gotten a role yet? Then why dont you say stop scumhunting cake because no one has gotten a role? Like honestly what you just said doesnt make sense.

Nope, I'm saying that if mafia already know their alignment, then they could be expected to be posting with more direction than those in the thread who don't have a damn clue. Pretty simple reasoning caaaake

So it's in your best interest to not convince me that mafia already knows their alignment, because you seem the most suspicious to me for 1) having a direction and 2) pushing based on weaksauce.

@Tictock - could be misremembering. I'll bother later once I figure out what, if anything, is going on here @.@

rsoultin

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July 30 2017 19:16 GMT

#203

I accept bribes ^^ They may or may not be taken into consideration when permitting entry. Children and souls are most valuable, children's souls the most valuable of all.

rsoultin

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July 30 2017 19:18 GMT

#204

On July 31 2017 04:16 beentheredonethat wrote:

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This is not only speculation about what a player may or may not do when he starts the game, but also speculation about what the host may or may not do. What I want to say is that it's absolutely irrelevant. Normal case of a scum pm: "you're scum, here's QT." - in the QT, scum team members are listed with given roles. At least that's how I do it most of the time. Basing a whole scumread on that is really not solid at all, especially given that there would be even a certain action of the host (putting the PM in the QT).

Long story short, I don't buy that scum read and I don't understand why Tina puts it up. Fishy!

-yawns- I'm the passport official. Slander will not be tolerated.

More to the point that was obviously a 'if I were to make a scumteam now based on cake's assumptions' post. I'm good, but not catch the entire scumteam on D1 good. Course, there's a first time for everything!

rsoultin

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July 30 2017 19:21 GMT

#207

On July 30 2017 06:27 Tictock wrote:
Yo rolled Town. I think...

Course that's prob what I would say as mafia too...

I dunno, I have to get back to work anyways.

Actually, yeah, nvm. Didn't remember the disclaimer. NAI then ^^

rsoultin

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July 30 2017 19:22 GMT

#209

On July 31 2017 04:19 beentheredonethat wrote:

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You; because you do think that but you apparently don't care about who exactly claims to not know his alignment and who doesn't do so. In your world, everyone who claims to not have a unclear alignment right now should be lynched with fire and everyone who claimed to have that alignment is confirmed town (especially the guys who were the first to claim)

But you don't really care for these people, since you didn't even bother to go back and look who claimed first (= confirmed town in your eyes).

So if you think that this is the world we're in, then you should definitely act accordingly. I think you don't act accordingly. I think you're trying to do what a town person would do but since you're scum and you do know that there's a QT with scum members in, you're tryharding to emulate a town person.

##vote CopCape

rsoultin

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July 30 2017 19:25 GMT

#211

On July 31 2017 04:24 beentheredonethat wrote:

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On July 31 2017 04:18 rsoultin wrote:

On July 31 2017 04:16 beentheredonethat wrote:

On July 31 2017 02:48 rsoultin wrote:
Well, the thing is, aimlessness and joking makes all the sense in the world for people with no role/alignment. If I make the assumptions that you insist I make, Cake, what I come out with is a scumteam (assuming 3) of:

Tictock, you, Conversion

Tictock based on the assumption that Joni wouldn't be a complete dick and would put the role pm in scum qt, but TT didn't check scum qt first. He seems aware of what he should be doing now

You because you came in assuming that scum already had their alignments. Even though both Damdred and I obviously considered that possibility, neither of us went to hard scum-hunting. I know I'm just poking at people in case anything interesting comes out, but I'm not sure anyone even has their alignment yet. Not everyone's the same, but the things you pointed out were particularly nitpicky and very obviously benign from a 'we don't know shit' perspective, so you're the most suspicious.

And Conversion just because he hasn't posted. <- Obviously the weakest. (Still haven't seen anything terribly strange from everyone else who has, so -shrugs-)

So maaaaybe cake you might be better off convincing me no one knows a damn thing. I do actually feel that it's fairly town-favored for mafia to know their alignments and town not to the first 24 hours, cause that's a lot of time to slip up ^^

Yeah I know but I still think that this is one level beyond speculation. It's more on a derailing level. It's one of the biggest posts you've made so far and why make such a post when its whole purpose is, like, pointless?

Lolwut?

You copy the read I have in that post, which was directed entirely at cake's play and just mentioned the others in passing, and call it pointless? Or did you not actually read the whole thing?

rsoultin

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July 30 2017 19:28 GMT

#213

On July 31 2017 04:25 rsoultin wrote:

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On July 31 2017 04:24 beentheredonethat wrote:

On July 31 2017 04:18 rsoultin wrote:

On July 31 2017 04:16 beentheredonethat wrote:

Like you're literally saying that the largest, most relevant part of my post that you happen to 100% agree with and just spent your own pretty time babbling about is apparently meaningless in the face of the small amount of speculation on Tictock, and that therefore makes the whole post pointless.

Like I don't even think this is scum or anything I just think it's hilariously bad lol ><

rsoultin

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July 30 2017 19:29 GMT

#214

On July 31 2017 04:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
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Ah, enlightenment took place ^^

rsoultin

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July 30 2017 19:36 GMT

#220

On July 31 2017 04:29 beentheredonethat wrote:

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On July 31 2017 04:25 rsoultin wrote:

On July 31 2017 04:24 beentheredonethat wrote:

On July 31 2017 04:18 rsoultin wrote:

On July 31 2017 04:16 beentheredonethat wrote:

I did read the whole thing but the "pointless" was directed towards Tictock, my bad.
But you do agree the Tictock stuff was pointless and misleading, right?

Misleading, how? I mean, yes, I've already rescinded as you'll see above because I remembered him claiming town, not the exact wording of the post.

However, in the context of the thread where most people are aimless, given the misread, it was a fine preliminary read. And it illustrated what I thought scummers who know their alignment might look like in thread, namely acting with information no one else had -shrugs- Why would I call what I actually thought misleading? It doesn't matter if it's speculative or 'pointless' when I was illustrating what I see as likely mafia behavior in that scenario.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

July 30 2017 19:37 GMT

#221

On July 31 2017 04:35 Koshi wrote:
Are we even aure there is mafia? Or can this be a faction game or something?

Nope, but not playing at all is booooring ^^

rsoultin

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July 30 2017 19:40 GMT

#224

On July 31 2017 04:33 beentheredonethat wrote:
ok, Tina, all bad things aside, you in voting CopCake?

Gun to my head, deadline in 20 minutes, she's 100% my vote. But I don't see much point in settling a lynch this early when theoretically we'll be getting our alignments and into a normal D1 soon. It's not impossible that everyone just doesn't have an alignment, after all.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

July 30 2017 19:41 GMT

#226

On July 31 2017 04:39 ruXxar wrote:
Glory to Arstotzka.

I, Yuri "ruxxar" vladivostok, have come before you the passport official to seek entry into the glorious motherland.
I have brought my freshly printed passport, everything is in order!

I have also brought my 13th son of age 7. He has many talents and would be honored to serve the great Arstotzka, if it should please you.

My purpose for visit is to celebrate the great leaders birthday and pay my respects.
Duration of visit is 2 weeks.

Lol I have no clue what is real and what isn't right now >< So sure, I'll take your kid

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

July 30 2017 20:00 GMT

#231

On July 31 2017 04:56 CopCake wrote:
Ok I am trying to understand this.

So Tina thinks I am "mafia" because I have a "guide" or seem like I know what I am doing.

This beentheredonethat jumps in the bus and agrees because "Yeah I agree wood how do you know there is quick topic"

So for me, in my point of view

1.- If you don't know what you are you are vanilla

2.- I assume there is a quick topic because all games mafia have one, which is a super bad argument from beentheredonethat

I don't know my role and there is only ONE person in this thread that has been open about his role and is the only one that is town 100% and if you don't figure out who that was then you didn't get the same role pm as the one who don't have one.

What are you trying to understand, exactly? Like what is the point of this post? Telling me you're not scum is not going to change my mind that you're the best lynch so far this game. Unless you're calling one or both of us scum, in which case you need to back it up with reasons, I'd suggest focusing on something else.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

July 30 2017 20:05 GMT

#232

Well, regardless, Lex and I have an early day tomorrow, so toodles! Hopefully tomorrow will be a good deal more interesting.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

July 30 2017 20:17 GMT

#235

On July 31 2017 05:06 CopCake wrote:
I am not trying to change your mind, I am trying to understand your point of view because it doesn't make sense. I already explained I am playing this as a vanilla town and that I assume there is a mafia quick topic because mafia ALWAYS get to chat with their team unless lone wolf. Those two things are easy to assume and it is how i think we should be playing this.

You are asking me to back myself with reasons when your reasons (again in my point of view) are poor and beentheredonethat are even worse since they are yours, not his.

No, I'm asking you to provide reasons if you think we're mafia. You called him scum. You haven't said anything about me directly indicating what you think I am.

But sure, I'll explain my reasoning. Maybe others don't understand it, either. I'm not sure that mafiosos know their alignment yet, and I do find it weird that you're as sure as you portray yourself to be. In my mind you should be like me, not sure of anything.

That alone isn't enough to make you scum, of course. You're not me. People can be ridiculously attached to their unfounded assumptions. But I also find your nitpicky 'scum-hunting' to be grating. What makes Holyflare's post scummy and not a joke? (I'm still not sure if it's part of the game or not, and I got named 'passport official' lol). What makes ruxxar's post scummy when you claim to have the same role pm, where alignments and roles are unknown? Of course to him it's possible that he could be scum. Maybe town Cake thinks that way and I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

In short, you're certainly the most interesting poster in the thread right now. So assuming anyone knows something about anything (which I will allow makes more sense than 24 hours of everyone knowing jack shit, though I wouldn't put the latter past Joni), my money's on you, babe.

(Yeeeeaaahh actually going to sleep for real now lol ><)

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

July 30 2017 20:21 GMT

#236

On July 31 2017 04:34 beentheredonethat wrote:
And I guarantee that if people start calling me bad all the time I will just stop playing and you'll have one mislynch less. Just a warning, if you guys are not nice, I'll stop playing.

Said it, now I'll shut up about it. Be nice to each other and try to have a good, townie, non-toxic atmosphere to talk to each other, alrighty?

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't see this. I was referring to the reasoning itself, not you BTDT. I'll try to make that clearer next time, if there's a next time.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

July 31 2017 04:37 GMT

#330

On July 31 2017 05:28 Holyflare wrote:
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Given change and my own pm, this point would be where to start reading from. Don't necessarily agree that nothing can be gained from the first 24 hours, but there's a slim possibility we were being massively host-trolled and I doubt scum can only give itself away in the first 24 hours, so I'm fine with parking on my early reads for the moment.

Also just really want to spite-lynch Conversion/DF. Not even sure that their behavior isn't more town-indicative, to be frank. But then again, when scum team hf/bugs/etc. were trying to throw me off my game they deliberately picked fights with me, so it's not outside scum wheelhouse, either. Probably going to sit on that, too. Would be fun to lynch.

Also, cake, you have a point that people keep appealing to me...though I am very curious what you think an 'rsoultin verse' looks like. I know I sure as hell can't remember your townplay for shit...I don't even think I've seen it in forum mafia? Were you town in Slam's ruined game that HF was smurfing in? -too lazy to check-