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On July 17 2017 01:56 Rels wrote: this is a bad attitude as it allows scum to get away with fake claim in future games. There's a difference when you already feel comfortable in your read | ||
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So we still lynch him. I see zero reason to not do so. | ||
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On July 17 2017 04:01 Rels wrote: I've given up on geript. If he didn't townread me in my towniest game ever he's not gonna townread me right now Can't imagine why I wouldn't townread you this game... you've do so much. | ||
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On July 17 2017 00:26 Rels wrote: SL IDK at all. ruxxar's rest of filter was super natural, I thought I had something with the way he was treating EC weirdly then all of sudden he townreads him. I think he even lock townread him. I was thinking I had something linkling ruxxar and EC together but the lock townread doesn't make sense in that case. I think he's town Like this is probably your best post and it's fucking thin | ||
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I actually don't hate Rels post on EC. I went and looked at his recent games (resistance [scum], 72hr and another mini). In all his games he quotes a decent amount. But in his town games, things seem to stick out to him a bit more and he seems a bit more idk paranoid. Like he'll flag posts and shit. Length wise, there doesn't seem to be a major difference between alignments that I noticed (either in post length or volume). Tone wise; he seems a bit more self-assured as mafia. It's not a read I'm wholly confident in, but it actually feels like a good place to bury a vote. His response to the claim was pretty fucking off too. Like everyone seems to take a side on it and he doesn't even seem to notice it. Like it's something irrelevant which (as far as masons go) I think is more consistent with being mafia. The big thing though is that he doesn't really seem to have any "eh that seems sketchy" type posts; there's nothing that catches his eye. Rather there's only things he seems to comment on this game. That's the big carry away for me. SL seems boring. I don't hate killing him either. I can't find a single post of his that gets me hard. Which in looking at Rels filter; Rels at least as a few that make me stop and think. Right now I'm going to ignore Skynx; partly because I think I want him to be scum and am not sure I can be reasonably unbiased. Also in part because I think EC is a decent shot for scum and EC didn't hate a Skynx lynch but ended up on the VA wagon. EC always seems to want to throw scum on Skynx, but always seems to find a way to push someone else to the top for relatively weak reasons. Especially + Show Spoiler [This Post] + On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote: Ok so caught up, quick post below . I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him. In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad. @skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town? I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline. I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him. For now gonna park my vote on va. I'll look at Koshi and TW in the morning. | ||
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Like when I claimed mason, Rayn lost his shit. EC is there posting on relatively recent shit and just ignoring commenting on it. Posts this: On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote: Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia. Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript Like you either think I'm scum and fake claiming or I'm blue. There's literally no in between ground. I'm obviously claiming confirmed Town mason with Damdred and he's obvious explaining sitting on his vote. When I ping him on it: He's obviously aware of the claim. On July 15 2017 05:50 emperorchampion wrote: Ok cool, two names to scratch off my list Then fully accepts it. Like if you think Damdred and I are good people to look into, then flat out accept the claim it's pretty odd. On top of it, he's had Skynx in his lynch list throughout. If I have 2 confirmed Town pushing a lynch on a guy I find scummy, I'm pretty likely to sheep their vote. It's weird to need much more to push off from one mediocre lynch to another. On July 15 2017 05:56 emperorchampion wrote: im getting a bit of cold feet on va, but I dunno about moving off It's weird to be getting cold feet about a lynch, be okay with the opposite wagon led by confirmed Town and not jump ship. It's just a whole mess of unusual all around. | ||
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On July 17 2017 18:20 Holyflare wrote: So you're saying koshi has contributed solid analysis that has driven the game forward and been productive at calling out people? Or you just like barking out and not acknowledging that he's pushed absolutely nobody he's called out? I'm telling you to look at and evaluate what I wrote on EC. I haven't reread Koshi yet. If he's bussing EC; cool, I don't care which order I lynch them in. I do care about you getting in a pointless dick comparing contest with Koshi and shitting up the thread so I can't get a good lynch off. If you guys are dumb enough to lynch me or Damdred at Lylo, I at least want to flip someone who I think has a good chance for being scum. It's my fucking head on the chopping block (not Damdred's) in a game where I want to remind Rayn how stupid he is for not fucking listening to me. And I need your help because I'm pretty sure you're Town and I know you're a better player than I am. | ||
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On July 17 2017 18:28 Holyflare wrote: Summary of ruxxar this game: 100% koshi is mafia. VA is definitely town bs tmi. Makes up scum reads on me before even looking into it and then says he was wrong but still scum reads me somehow. Disbelieved red check INSTANTLY voting off wagon on koshi. Then starts nonsense about rels flipping green and definitely lynching me. Then starts associating my play to defending koshi before rels has flipped/I've rescinded. All of the cop stuff is setting up for a mislynch the next cycle. Koshi is bussing tw/i call out koshi with ruxxar/he votes me over his early game 100% koshi even though he says I'm with koshi and he's more sure on that Mafia plz. Sure there's a bunch I've forgotten about. Look I get why you think Rux is scum. I do. Both VA and Rels iirc made comments that he did this same dumb shit last game as Town. I can see him being the dog from Up chasing every little noice and sound... enamored by every little new thing. I think he can be Town. I mean, if you were scum with him, how early would you start bussing that shit just to make sure he didn't spill the whole fucking beans? Because I would've hard bussed his ass on D1 and taken half the credit and NKd you. | ||
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On July 17 2017 18:30 Holyflare wrote: Nobody has said that? I don't think you're lying and I've listened to everything you've posted. Koshi is the bigger threat so read what I've been writing because you've dismissed it as pointless dick waving when it's not. Then form your case in a coherent way I can understand it so I don't get so enamored with your big sexy cock that I have to go jerk off and think about marv. | ||
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# of Skynx Positive Neutral (#720, #907) Negative: (#582, #910, #1028, #1215) # of VA Positive Neutral (#582, #1215, #1246) Negative (#720, #907, #1020) Like you talk about Skynx way fucking more than you talk about VA. The most you ever really say about VA is you didn't mind his opener. Everything else is basically, "He hasn't done anything I can defend" which is an easy cop out answer. My question is if you accepted Damdred and Myself as town, and we're both pushing a lynch on someone you talk reasonably negatively about (moreso than your current lynch vote). Why not join the chain of justice? If you were waiting for Damdred to confirm our loving masonic relationship, why? Either I'm 100% scum trying to get a partner to back my claim (who 100% will) or I'm 100% town and my partner will back my claim (who 100% will)? In what world does the person I claim to be masoned with end up not backing my claim? Literally no one in the thread questioned that I was in a QT with Damdred, but many questioned whether it was Scum QT. Skynx was legit throwing his vote away on a train that had 0 chance of ever happening (which is like super bad [shame shame Tina]), he's on your list of people to look at and "have meant to look at" repeatedly. Yet you don't end up filtering him. You don't end up trying to pool with confirmed town votes. You don't say to yourself, "Hey, I'm pretty iffy on both these guys; but I know that at least the push on Skynx is 100% led by an honest opinion I can trust." You don't do a lot of things that make basic fucking mafia sense. | ||
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If you could focus on a few people for me it'd be cool. Specifically: Koshi, Skynx , TW, and EC. | ||
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On July 13 2017 17:04 Koshi wrote: There is a chance I don't understand women. Or that they are all mafia. It is funnier with better english. Already not a fan because I love baiting town to get them into dumb shitty arguments with each other as scum. On July 13 2017 19:23 Koshi wrote: Damdred tried to explain why geript is town and gave that read to the thread. =good stuff. Trying to convince somebody is town with reasoning that another person can understand is a townie treat. Him being extremely confident about it is also more likely town over mafia because mafia is afraid of showing TMI. Damdred is town. FWIW, I know you and Rayn hated Damdred's read, but I thought it was actually pretty on point and didn't mind this. That said, I think Damdred was pretty obviously town too so no real townie points for this. On July 13 2017 23:26 Koshi wrote: wow I even pressed reply before I realized. My last post will be to point out rsoultin hasn't done anything yet and her read on Damdred is bullshit. She takes Damdred his worst read and calls him town for it... The post he's referring to is here. In going back it's a pretty slick read on Damdred's part IMO. One that makes me want to lynch Ruxxar even less. This is the type of sly read that in my experience good players usually pick up on from other players and incorporate. It's actually really solid and not one I'd expect Koshi to downgrade. On July 14 2017 22:36 Koshi wrote: Why is rsoultin not mafia? Only read the votes and not the thread yet. Currently busy but hoping I can read it after work as I should be home earlier today. Depends on how long this takes but we are almost done. I read the thread this morning and she just dropped a bad listpost filled with emo blackmail. Not a single strong read based with evidence and a lol read on va. So bad. Damdred liked Tina's list post. I wasn't as fond of it. So I won't detract marks from Koshi for that. That said... On July 14 2017 05:10 rsoultin wrote: koshi. <- this dude has done nada all day but call me scum for bullshit. like, 'baseless' reads? there may not be a ton behind them but tone, but that's how it always is with me day 1 lol >< and he has no excuse not to know this. no way that's his only read as town. even when he's trying to keep his filter down (which he's done before, btw) he can't seem to help himself, like a fire burning in his belly I will detract for this. Because it's damn on point of Koshi's filter. On July 14 2017 22:53 Koshi wrote: My meta read on VA is not the same as rayns btw. For me VA is mafia when he builds up cred and then uses that build up cred to push mafia agenda. rayn scumreads VA already while he is building up the cred. Which imo is way inferior. Problem this game is that VA went for the "I entered with scummeta on purpose" defense which is bullshit as VA doesnt play anti town on purpose. He might not care to boost his own activity to get read easily. But never anti town on purpose. And as I said. Rayn was looking decent enough town already back then so va entering to trick rayn makes no sense. But if he did he should have defended against rayns attack with "good you are town" and not "lol mafia meta on purpose" So VA is pretty much lock scum. But why is rsoultin town? This is the second time he's said it's VA's scum meta saying that VA doesn't play anti-town as town; which is complete bullshit. If VA doesn't gives fucks, he does whatever the fuck he wants as any alignment. Kinda like PalmEr. That said, this is basically how I tend to describe meta when I'm scum. I use pretty broad generalities. Even worse, VA has built up 0 town cred to push scum agenda; so I don't see how he even fits this game. On July 17 2017 01:35 Koshi wrote: Page 75. Don't think Ruxx is mafia. Don't think EC is mafia. Don't think HF is mafia. Don't think rsoultin is mafia now lol. Don't know about SL Really don't think mafia geript and Damdred just go claim masons. Dumbest thing ever... So there is max 1 mafia and 1 retard. Brings me to TW/Skynx and Rels. I think that is all. 17 more pages. On July 17 2017 01:40 Koshi wrote: Going to reread Skynx first. I like where he is here. I think this was one of the points HF brought up. For liking where Skynx is, they only share 1 scumread. If you count nulls I guess you get to add in sharing SL and Rels reads, but being so vastly different on TW and EC is a quite odd. On July 17 2017 01:45 Koshi wrote: Damn a legit sl read. Sick stuff. Going have to reread EC as well. I don't see how this is a slick read. Sure EC seems to have forgotten his read. But I've also found that over time if it isn't a really sticky read, it's easy to forget where you had someone on the nullish side of town. Granted I'm presuming they're referring to thiswhich seems a bit more than town-null. On July 17 2017 01:46 Koshi wrote: "I don't know what to write behind Koshi his name to call him mafia so I am going to call Ruxx both lock town and mafia in 1 sentence. But this is just plain lazy. On July 17 2017 02:20 Koshi wrote: This is a bad post because he doesn't scumread Skynx. See↓ + Show Spoiler + On July 14 2017 04:16 Tumblewood wrote: cause i read his posts and was like "this guy sounds pretty townie" ↑More likely mafia!TW making up a story then town!TW actually believing that. Easy vote. Random question "looking dumb.". If anybody is interested. I think in Ver his guide it stands that if you open with this post you are more likely mafia. One mafia down. ##Vote TW Going to read Skynx next but he is more likely town now. This is a slanting things pretty heavily. TW seems to have made a big hoopla over VA's sick play (which IMO was neither sick nor a play) and called him town for it. It's not unreasonable to vote for someone who you think is less towny than the other guy. That said, minus points to TW too for calling VA town. On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote: And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right. Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town. I think this is one of the crucial points of HF's argument. I'm going to stop commenting now because my brain is fried and my eyes are twitching after being up 22 hours. The best thing I can say is that he's super fucking lazy. I'm going to try and catch a couple hours sleep before the lynch. | ||
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On July 18 2017 05:16 Holyflare wrote: side with the mafia people on koshi Yeah, there's like probably two mafia on Koshi right now. That's not a super hot proposition. | ||
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