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On July 16 2017 00:07 Holyflare wrote:
Congrats vivax cobf town
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On July 16 2017 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 00:05 emperorchampion wrote:
Has koshi responded at all to ruxxar's pressure on him all game so far? Like if they're scum buddies does rux go balls to the wall since day 1? I already talked about this, ruxxar did nothing with his super scumread on Koshi. I don't see why they cant be mafia together.
Yeah I think it's mutual though. They've both ignored each other as far as I recall.
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On July 16 2017 00:05 emperorchampion wrote:
Has koshi responded at all to ruxxar's pressure on him all game so far? Like if they're scum buddies does rux go balls to the wall since day 1?
Nope, he's a slippery eel.
Only thing he said is that "different doesn't mean scum".
Couldn't get any traction day 1. Hoping for better luck tomorrow.
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yeah koshi needs to haul ass tomorrow
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On July 16 2017 00:08 ruXxar wrote:
Couldn't get any traction day 1. Hoping for better luck tomorrow.
that's bs, you never even tried.
or if you did please show me where it is in your filter?
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On July 15 2017 23:38 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 23:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:34 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:22 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:20 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:04 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:02 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 22:37 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 22:13 ruXxar wrote:
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Damdred is a hard read.
I feel like every time he says something it's very restrained.
Gives a sort of xata mafia vibe, but that is just superficial stuff.
I don't have anything solid on him.
Geript on the other hand, I kinda want to die regardless of his alignment.
I don't think skynx and geript are mafia together, and I regrettably have to admit that as much as I dislike geript and that he is a proven liar, I don't have any solid reason to call him lock scum.
I'll have to do some filtering of both of those to see if there's some long running agenda I might've missed.
that will have to wait though, I'm on the move-Ish right now. So you don't believe the mason claim. Is there any reason why not? Why should I believe it? I don't see any reason to. Then do you see any reason for them to claim masons as town? I like this question a lot. Forced me to think real hard. You get extra town credit for that. To answer your question, no, I can't think of any good reasons besides them being really good friends that want to keep each other alive. So are they more mafia because of it, or less? Cause it's like a pretty big thing that I don't think you mentioned at all. And you're individually scum reading both of them. I have such a negative view on both of them that I can't bear myself to call them town for it, even if that is supposedly the objectively correct play. Might just be my personal bias in wanting them to be scum, but for now it's all just a muddy mess surrounding them. Like my intuition is telling me that they both look real shady, and then having to accept that they are town would just fly right in my face of reading the game. I don't think my ego can handle it. meh, I'm starting to think that this game isn't nearly as solved as I thought it was. Guess it's not surprising. Please explain  I just felt good on skynx / koshi as scum. Rels could be, still 50/50. Now not as much, guess there's a lot more places to look.
Why you voted VA then???
On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va.
This is your opinion on me after like stating 2-3 times you need to read me. You give me a pass based on the reason that I'm trying. But earlier there is this:
On July 13 2017 23:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Quickly checking in: the "slip" is pretty lols that hf pointed out. I suppose some small town points to rsoul for being skeptical on this point. For this dislike hedging, I think I've been pretty clear my overall read on people . Of course there are things that give me pause on people but you can say that about any read at this point.
With regards to what rayn added re: his reasons for scum reading rux I'll look more at this later tonight. va's entrance I didn't mind at first glance since I didn't love skynx 's big post.
I'm sure there's more in there but gotta re read the last few pages later tonight.
Implying VA townlean, Skynx scumlean.
Later on you just keep repeating "Koshi/Skynx is a good place to look at", like 5 times, no exageration. What do you mean by a good place to look at? Does this imply a scumlean? No one is gona follow that if you don't point out why we're scum.
You also mention getting cold feet on VA lynch. I just can't find any reason to justify you staying on VA.
Why did you vote VA? What were your reasons for scumreading (or implying so) me and Koshi? Why didn't you do anything about it when you had scumleans?
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On July 16 2017 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 00:05 emperorchampion wrote:
Has koshi responded at all to ruxxar's pressure on him all game so far? Like if they're scum buddies does rux go balls to the wall since day 1? I already talked about this, ruxxar did nothing with his super scumread on Koshi. I don't see why they cant be mafia together.
As long as you help me lynch koshi I don't care what you call me.
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Lol ruxxar disbelieved mason claims and calls me mafia because that's what he needs for mafia agenda.
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On July 16 2017 00:13 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:05 emperorchampion wrote:
Has koshi responded at all to ruxxar's pressure on him all game so far? Like if they're scum buddies does rux go balls to the wall since day 1? I already talked about this, ruxxar did nothing with his super scumread on Koshi. I don't see why they cant be mafia together. As long as you help me lynch koshi I don't care what you call me.
noone in this game is ever going to be "helping you lynching koshi" since if he flips mafia you deserve as much credit for it as my shoe does.
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On July 16 2017 00:12 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 23:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:34 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:22 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:20 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:04 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:02 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 22:37 emperorchampion wrote:
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So you don't believe the mason claim. Is there any reason why not? Why should I believe it? I don't see any reason to. Then do you see any reason for them to claim masons as town? I like this question a lot. Forced me to think real hard. You get extra town credit for that. To answer your question, no, I can't think of any good reasons besides them being really good friends that want to keep each other alive. So are they more mafia because of it, or less? Cause it's like a pretty big thing that I don't think you mentioned at all. And you're individually scum reading both of them. I have such a negative view on both of them that I can't bear myself to call them town for it, even if that is supposedly the objectively correct play. Might just be my personal bias in wanting them to be scum, but for now it's all just a muddy mess surrounding them. Like my intuition is telling me that they both look real shady, and then having to accept that they are town would just fly right in my face of reading the game. I don't think my ego can handle it. meh, I'm starting to think that this game isn't nearly as solved as I thought it was. Guess it's not surprising. Please explain I just felt good on skynx / koshi as scum. Rels could be, still 50/50. Now not as much, guess there's a lot more places to look. Why you voted VA then??? Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. This is your opinion on me after like stating 2-3 times you need to read me. You give me a pass based on the reason that I'm trying. But earlier there is this: Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 23:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Quickly checking in: the "slip" is pretty lols that hf pointed out. I suppose some small town points to rsoul for being skeptical on this point. For this dislike hedging, I think I've been pretty clear my overall read on people . Of course there are things that give me pause on people but you can say that about any read at this point.
With regards to what rayn added re: his reasons for scum reading rux I'll look more at this later tonight. va's entrance I didn't mind at first glance since I didn't love skynx 's big post.
I'm sure there's more in there but gotta re read the last few pages later tonight.
Implying VA townlean, Skynx scumlean. Later on you just keep repeating "Koshi/Skynx is a good place to look at", like 5 times, no exageration. What do you mean by a good place to look at? Does this imply a scumlean? No one is gona follow that if you don't point out why we're scum. You also mention getting cold feet on VA lynch. I just can't find any reason to justify you staying on VA. Why did you vote VA? What were your reasons for scumreading (or implying so) me and Koshi? Why didn't you do anything about it when you had scumleans?
Mmm I think I was more quickly checking in when I read both your case and VA's response to it. For starting my vote on VA I largely sheeped rayn and other's read on the situation. Then it turned into VA never defending him self, so I didn't really have any reason for moving off. I got a bit cold feet because it started looking 50/50 ish, until he started posting baby seals. Then I felt good about it till after the flip lol.
Koshi can be scum for a number of reasons, that my self and others have largely stated in thread since the start of night. For koshi it's definitely developing into a scum read. For you, we'll see.
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On July 16 2017 00:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 00:13 ruXxar wrote:On July 16 2017 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:05 emperorchampion wrote:
Has koshi responded at all to ruxxar's pressure on him all game so far? Like if they're scum buddies does rux go balls to the wall since day 1? I already talked about this, ruxxar did nothing with his super scumread on Koshi. I don't see why they cant be mafia together. As long as you help me lynch koshi I don't care what you call me. noone in this game is ever going to be "helping you lynching koshi" since if he flips mafia you deserve as much credit for it as my shoe does.
rofl
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On July 16 2017 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 00:08 ruXxar wrote:
Couldn't get any traction day 1. Hoping for better luck tomorrow. that's bs, you never even tried. or if you did please show me where it is in your filter?
Never even tried?
I called out the guy a million times.
Asked people their thoughts on him.
Parked my vote on him for a long ass time.
Then you show up with your bullshit claim that I'm mafia for voting koshi?!
You can just f**k right off.
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On July 16 2017 00:21 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 00:12 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 23:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:34 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:22 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:20 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:04 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:02 ruXxar wrote:
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Why should I believe it?
I don't see any reason to. Then do you see any reason for them to claim masons as town? I like this question a lot. Forced me to think real hard. You get extra town credit for that. To answer your question, no, I can't think of any good reasons besides them being really good friends that want to keep each other alive. So are they more mafia because of it, or less? Cause it's like a pretty big thing that I don't think you mentioned at all. And you're individually scum reading both of them. I have such a negative view on both of them that I can't bear myself to call them town for it, even if that is supposedly the objectively correct play. Might just be my personal bias in wanting them to be scum, but for now it's all just a muddy mess surrounding them. Like my intuition is telling me that they both look real shady, and then having to accept that they are town would just fly right in my face of reading the game. I don't think my ego can handle it. meh, I'm starting to think that this game isn't nearly as solved as I thought it was. Guess it's not surprising. Please explain I just felt good on skynx / koshi as scum. Rels could be, still 50/50. Now not as much, guess there's a lot more places to look. Why you voted VA then??? On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. This is your opinion on me after like stating 2-3 times you need to read me. You give me a pass based on the reason that I'm trying. But earlier there is this: On July 13 2017 23:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Quickly checking in: the "slip" is pretty lols that hf pointed out. I suppose some small town points to rsoul for being skeptical on this point. For this dislike hedging, I think I've been pretty clear my overall read on people . Of course there are things that give me pause on people but you can say that about any read at this point.
With regards to what rayn added re: his reasons for scum reading rux I'll look more at this later tonight. va's entrance I didn't mind at first glance since I didn't love skynx 's big post.
I'm sure there's more in there but gotta re read the last few pages later tonight.
Implying VA townlean, Skynx scumlean. Later on you just keep repeating "Koshi/Skynx is a good place to look at", like 5 times, no exageration. What do you mean by a good place to look at? Does this imply a scumlean? No one is gona follow that if you don't point out why we're scum. You also mention getting cold feet on VA lynch. I just can't find any reason to justify you staying on VA. Why did you vote VA? What were your reasons for scumreading (or implying so) me and Koshi? Why didn't you do anything about it when you had scumleans? Mmm I think I was more quickly checking in when I read both your case and VA's response to it. For starting my vote on VA I largely sheeped rayn and other's read on the situation. Then it turned into VA never defending him self, so I didn't really have any reason for moving off. I got a bit cold feet because it started looking 50/50 ish, until he started posting baby seals. Then I felt good about it till after the flip lol. Koshi can be scum for a number of reasons, that my self and others have largely stated in thread since the start of night. For koshi it's definitely developing into a scum read. For you, we'll see.
I agree on Koshi but I'm the counter wagon to VA. If you're pushing the idea of I'm scum in the thread but not putting any effort into pushing me and vote on the other wagon thats just suspicious. Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen.
Did you scumread me or not?
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On July 16 2017 00:24 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:08 ruXxar wrote:
Couldn't get any traction day 1. Hoping for better luck tomorrow. that's bs, you never even tried. or if you did please show me where it is in your filter? Never even tried? I called out the guy a million times. Asked people their thoughts on him. Parked my vote on him for a long ass time. Then you show up with your bullshit claim that I'm mafia for voting koshi?! You can just f**k right off.
I dont care where your vote was.
Show me where you pushed his lynch, especially after your first "case" (the way Koshi started the game) was proven wrong. It should be very easy thing to do if you actually did that... And no, saying "lynch this guy" is not the same thing as pushing someone, because a push with no reasoning is like my shoe.
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On July 16 2017 00:27 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 00:21 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 00:12 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 23:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:34 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:22 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:20 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:04 emperorchampion wrote:
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Then do you see any reason for them to claim masons as town? I like this question a lot. Forced me to think real hard. You get extra town credit for that. To answer your question, no, I can't think of any good reasons besides them being really good friends that want to keep each other alive. So are they more mafia because of it, or less? Cause it's like a pretty big thing that I don't think you mentioned at all. And you're individually scum reading both of them. I have such a negative view on both of them that I can't bear myself to call them town for it, even if that is supposedly the objectively correct play. Might just be my personal bias in wanting them to be scum, but for now it's all just a muddy mess surrounding them. Like my intuition is telling me that they both look real shady, and then having to accept that they are town would just fly right in my face of reading the game. I don't think my ego can handle it. meh, I'm starting to think that this game isn't nearly as solved as I thought it was. Guess it's not surprising. Please explain I just felt good on skynx / koshi as scum. Rels could be, still 50/50. Now not as much, guess there's a lot more places to look. Why you voted VA then??? On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. This is your opinion on me after like stating 2-3 times you need to read me. You give me a pass based on the reason that I'm trying. But earlier there is this: On July 13 2017 23:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Quickly checking in: the "slip" is pretty lols that hf pointed out. I suppose some small town points to rsoul for being skeptical on this point. For this dislike hedging, I think I've been pretty clear my overall read on people . Of course there are things that give me pause on people but you can say that about any read at this point.
With regards to what rayn added re: his reasons for scum reading rux I'll look more at this later tonight. va's entrance I didn't mind at first glance since I didn't love skynx 's big post.
I'm sure there's more in there but gotta re read the last few pages later tonight.
Implying VA townlean, Skynx scumlean. Later on you just keep repeating "Koshi/Skynx is a good place to look at", like 5 times, no exageration. What do you mean by a good place to look at? Does this imply a scumlean? No one is gona follow that if you don't point out why we're scum. You also mention getting cold feet on VA lynch. I just can't find any reason to justify you staying on VA. Why did you vote VA? What were your reasons for scumreading (or implying so) me and Koshi? Why didn't you do anything about it when you had scumleans? Mmm I think I was more quickly checking in when I read both your case and VA's response to it. For starting my vote on VA I largely sheeped rayn and other's read on the situation. Then it turned into VA never defending him self, so I didn't really have any reason for moving off. I got a bit cold feet because it started looking 50/50 ish, until he started posting baby seals. Then I felt good about it till after the flip lol. Koshi can be scum for a number of reasons, that my self and others have largely stated in thread since the start of night. For koshi it's definitely developing into a scum read. For you, we'll see. I agree on Koshi but I'm the counter wagon to VA. If you're pushing the idea of I'm scum in the thread but not putting any effort into pushing me and vote on the other wagon thats just suspicious. Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen. Did you scumread me or not?
i am going to mark this for myself for tomorrow (or if i happen to die to HF), because if this actually happened this is very very scummy.
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I didn't even know there was a counter wagon :D :D
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On July 16 2017 00:27 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 00:21 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 00:12 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 23:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:34 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:22 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:20 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:04 emperorchampion wrote:
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Then do you see any reason for them to claim masons as town? I like this question a lot. Forced me to think real hard. You get extra town credit for that. To answer your question, no, I can't think of any good reasons besides them being really good friends that want to keep each other alive. So are they more mafia because of it, or less? Cause it's like a pretty big thing that I don't think you mentioned at all. And you're individually scum reading both of them. I have such a negative view on both of them that I can't bear myself to call them town for it, even if that is supposedly the objectively correct play. Might just be my personal bias in wanting them to be scum, but for now it's all just a muddy mess surrounding them. Like my intuition is telling me that they both look real shady, and then having to accept that they are town would just fly right in my face of reading the game. I don't think my ego can handle it. meh, I'm starting to think that this game isn't nearly as solved as I thought it was. Guess it's not surprising. Please explain I just felt good on skynx / koshi as scum. Rels could be, still 50/50. Now not as much, guess there's a lot more places to look. Why you voted VA then??? On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. This is your opinion on me after like stating 2-3 times you need to read me. You give me a pass based on the reason that I'm trying. But earlier there is this: On July 13 2017 23:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Quickly checking in: the "slip" is pretty lols that hf pointed out. I suppose some small town points to rsoul for being skeptical on this point. For this dislike hedging, I think I've been pretty clear my overall read on people . Of course there are things that give me pause on people but you can say that about any read at this point.
With regards to what rayn added re: his reasons for scum reading rux I'll look more at this later tonight. va's entrance I didn't mind at first glance since I didn't love skynx 's big post.
I'm sure there's more in there but gotta re read the last few pages later tonight.
Implying VA townlean, Skynx scumlean. Later on you just keep repeating "Koshi/Skynx is a good place to look at", like 5 times, no exageration. What do you mean by a good place to look at? Does this imply a scumlean? No one is gona follow that if you don't point out why we're scum. You also mention getting cold feet on VA lynch. I just can't find any reason to justify you staying on VA. Why did you vote VA? What were your reasons for scumreading (or implying so) me and Koshi? Why didn't you do anything about it when you had scumleans? Mmm I think I was more quickly checking in when I read both your case and VA's response to it. For starting my vote on VA I largely sheeped rayn and other's read on the situation. Then it turned into VA never defending him self, so I didn't really have any reason for moving off. I got a bit cold feet because it started looking 50/50 ish, until he started posting baby seals. Then I felt good about it till after the flip lol. Koshi can be scum for a number of reasons, that my self and others have largely stated in thread since the start of night. For koshi it's definitely developing into a scum read. For you, we'll see. I agree on Koshi but I'm the counter wagon to VA. If you're pushing the idea of I'm scum in the thread but not putting any effort into pushing me and vote on the other wagon thats just suspicious. Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen. Did you scumread me or not?
I don't completely remember if I scum read you or not, definitely a lean. Less than VA given my vote lol. You definitely seemed a lot more scummy to me after the results of the flip at first due to the vote distribution. I was re evaluating things and came to this last night:
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul.
Why do you say this part:
Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen.
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On July 16 2017 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 00:27 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:21 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 00:12 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 23:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:34 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:22 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:20 ruXxar wrote:
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I like this question a lot.
Forced me to think real hard.
You get extra town credit for that.
To answer your question, no, I can't think of any good reasons besides them being really good friends that want to keep each other alive.
So are they more mafia because of it, or less? Cause it's like a pretty big thing that I don't think you mentioned at all. And you're individually scum reading both of them. I have such a negative view on both of them that I can't bear myself to call them town for it, even if that is supposedly the objectively correct play. Might just be my personal bias in wanting them to be scum, but for now it's all just a muddy mess surrounding them. Like my intuition is telling me that they both look real shady, and then having to accept that they are town would just fly right in my face of reading the game. I don't think my ego can handle it. meh, I'm starting to think that this game isn't nearly as solved as I thought it was. Guess it's not surprising. Please explain I just felt good on skynx / koshi as scum. Rels could be, still 50/50. Now not as much, guess there's a lot more places to look. Why you voted VA then??? On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. This is your opinion on me after like stating 2-3 times you need to read me. You give me a pass based on the reason that I'm trying. But earlier there is this: On July 13 2017 23:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Quickly checking in: the "slip" is pretty lols that hf pointed out. I suppose some small town points to rsoul for being skeptical on this point. For this dislike hedging, I think I've been pretty clear my overall read on people . Of course there are things that give me pause on people but you can say that about any read at this point.
With regards to what rayn added re: his reasons for scum reading rux I'll look more at this later tonight. va's entrance I didn't mind at first glance since I didn't love skynx 's big post.
I'm sure there's more in there but gotta re read the last few pages later tonight.
Implying VA townlean, Skynx scumlean. Later on you just keep repeating "Koshi/Skynx is a good place to look at", like 5 times, no exageration. What do you mean by a good place to look at? Does this imply a scumlean? No one is gona follow that if you don't point out why we're scum. You also mention getting cold feet on VA lynch. I just can't find any reason to justify you staying on VA. Why did you vote VA? What were your reasons for scumreading (or implying so) me and Koshi? Why didn't you do anything about it when you had scumleans? Mmm I think I was more quickly checking in when I read both your case and VA's response to it. For starting my vote on VA I largely sheeped rayn and other's read on the situation. Then it turned into VA never defending him self, so I didn't really have any reason for moving off. I got a bit cold feet because it started looking 50/50 ish, until he started posting baby seals. Then I felt good about it till after the flip lol. Koshi can be scum for a number of reasons, that my self and others have largely stated in thread since the start of night. For koshi it's definitely developing into a scum read. For you, we'll see. I agree on Koshi but I'm the counter wagon to VA. If you're pushing the idea of I'm scum in the thread but not putting any effort into pushing me and vote on the other wagon thats just suspicious. Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen. Did you scumread me or not? i am going to mark this for myself for tomorrow (or if i happen to die to HF), because if this actually happened this is very very scummy.
Please do it today, in case you die.
On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va.
Votes for VA, townreads me.
Rest is just pushing the idea of I could be scum but thats it
+ Show Spoiler +On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons
Hf i think likely to be town
If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read
If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me
Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels
Skynx
Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul.
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On July 16 2017 00:33 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 00:27 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:21 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 00:12 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 23:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:34 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:22 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:20 ruXxar wrote:
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I like this question a lot.
Forced me to think real hard.
You get extra town credit for that.
To answer your question, no, I can't think of any good reasons besides them being really good friends that want to keep each other alive.
So are they more mafia because of it, or less? Cause it's like a pretty big thing that I don't think you mentioned at all. And you're individually scum reading both of them. I have such a negative view on both of them that I can't bear myself to call them town for it, even if that is supposedly the objectively correct play. Might just be my personal bias in wanting them to be scum, but for now it's all just a muddy mess surrounding them. Like my intuition is telling me that they both look real shady, and then having to accept that they are town would just fly right in my face of reading the game. I don't think my ego can handle it. meh, I'm starting to think that this game isn't nearly as solved as I thought it was. Guess it's not surprising. Please explain I just felt good on skynx / koshi as scum. Rels could be, still 50/50. Now not as much, guess there's a lot more places to look. Why you voted VA then??? On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. This is your opinion on me after like stating 2-3 times you need to read me. You give me a pass based on the reason that I'm trying. But earlier there is this: On July 13 2017 23:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Quickly checking in: the "slip" is pretty lols that hf pointed out. I suppose some small town points to rsoul for being skeptical on this point. For this dislike hedging, I think I've been pretty clear my overall read on people . Of course there are things that give me pause on people but you can say that about any read at this point.
With regards to what rayn added re: his reasons for scum reading rux I'll look more at this later tonight. va's entrance I didn't mind at first glance since I didn't love skynx 's big post.
I'm sure there's more in there but gotta re read the last few pages later tonight.
Implying VA townlean, Skynx scumlean. Later on you just keep repeating "Koshi/Skynx is a good place to look at", like 5 times, no exageration. What do you mean by a good place to look at? Does this imply a scumlean? No one is gona follow that if you don't point out why we're scum. You also mention getting cold feet on VA lynch. I just can't find any reason to justify you staying on VA. Why did you vote VA? What were your reasons for scumreading (or implying so) me and Koshi? Why didn't you do anything about it when you had scumleans? Mmm I think I was more quickly checking in when I read both your case and VA's response to it. For starting my vote on VA I largely sheeped rayn and other's read on the situation. Then it turned into VA never defending him self, so I didn't really have any reason for moving off. I got a bit cold feet because it started looking 50/50 ish, until he started posting baby seals. Then I felt good about it till after the flip lol. Koshi can be scum for a number of reasons, that my self and others have largely stated in thread since the start of night. For koshi it's definitely developing into a scum read. For you, we'll see. I agree on Koshi but I'm the counter wagon to VA. If you're pushing the idea of I'm scum in the thread but not putting any effort into pushing me and vote on the other wagon thats just suspicious. Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen. Did you scumread me or not? I don't completely remember if I scum read you or not, definitely a lean. Less than VA given my vote lol. You definitely seemed a lot more scummy to me after the results of the flip at first due to the vote distribution. I was re evaluating things and came to this last night: Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Why do you say this part: Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen.
You're the only one on VA wagon with legitimate beef on me thats why.
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On July 16 2017 00:34 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2017 00:27 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:21 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 00:12 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 23:38 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:34 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:22 emperorchampion wrote:
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So are they more mafia because of it, or less? Cause it's like a pretty big thing that I don't think you mentioned at all. And you're individually scum reading both of them. I have such a negative view on both of them that I can't bear myself to call them town for it, even if that is supposedly the objectively correct play. Might just be my personal bias in wanting them to be scum, but for now it's all just a muddy mess surrounding them. Like my intuition is telling me that they both look real shady, and then having to accept that they are town would just fly right in my face of reading the game. I don't think my ego can handle it. meh, I'm starting to think that this game isn't nearly as solved as I thought it was. Guess it's not surprising. Please explain I just felt good on skynx / koshi as scum. Rels could be, still 50/50. Now not as much, guess there's a lot more places to look. Why you voted VA then??? On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. This is your opinion on me after like stating 2-3 times you need to read me. You give me a pass based on the reason that I'm trying. But earlier there is this: On July 13 2017 23:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Quickly checking in: the "slip" is pretty lols that hf pointed out. I suppose some small town points to rsoul for being skeptical on this point. For this dislike hedging, I think I've been pretty clear my overall read on people . Of course there are things that give me pause on people but you can say that about any read at this point.
With regards to what rayn added re: his reasons for scum reading rux I'll look more at this later tonight. va's entrance I didn't mind at first glance since I didn't love skynx 's big post.
I'm sure there's more in there but gotta re read the last few pages later tonight.
Implying VA townlean, Skynx scumlean. Later on you just keep repeating "Koshi/Skynx is a good place to look at", like 5 times, no exageration. What do you mean by a good place to look at? Does this imply a scumlean? No one is gona follow that if you don't point out why we're scum. You also mention getting cold feet on VA lynch. I just can't find any reason to justify you staying on VA. Why did you vote VA? What were your reasons for scumreading (or implying so) me and Koshi? Why didn't you do anything about it when you had scumleans? Mmm I think I was more quickly checking in when I read both your case and VA's response to it. For starting my vote on VA I largely sheeped rayn and other's read on the situation. Then it turned into VA never defending him self, so I didn't really have any reason for moving off. I got a bit cold feet because it started looking 50/50 ish, until he started posting baby seals. Then I felt good about it till after the flip lol. Koshi can be scum for a number of reasons, that my self and others have largely stated in thread since the start of night. For koshi it's definitely developing into a scum read. For you, we'll see. I agree on Koshi but I'm the counter wagon to VA. If you're pushing the idea of I'm scum in the thread but not putting any effort into pushing me and vote on the other wagon thats just suspicious. Like literally, you switch and I'm dead. But that doesn't happen. Did you scumread me or not? i am going to mark this for myself for tomorrow (or if i happen to die to HF), because if this actually happened this is very very scummy. Please do it today, in case you die. Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .
I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.
In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.
@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?
I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.
I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.
For now gonna park my vote on va. Votes for VA, townreads me. Rest is just pushing the idea of I could be scum but thats it + Show Spoiler +On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.
Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.
Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.
Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.
I don't think I want to lynch va today.
Rels is a good policy lynch though.
And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm. You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this. tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town. Why rels? Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons
Hf i think likely to be town
If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read
If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me
Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels
Skynx
Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul.
The first post is like very early in the day though right? Pretty sure I wrote that on the bus to work.
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