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On July 14 2017 05:24 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 05:20 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 05:02 emperorchampion wrote:On July 14 2017 03:42 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 03:32 Tumblewood wrote:ok i'm back and i caught up to page 25 before skimming this last page. um new stuff: if rsoul is scum i doubt she thinks that posting squiggly nothings is not a good way to get town cred, so imma go with town skynx and damdred have ummmmm good tone rayn is getting into stupid arguments that i think he knows no one can win. i wanna say he's scum but first lemme make sure i didn't make this same read in that other game where i called him scum d1 and i was wrong also: On July 13 2017 21:28 Holyflare wrote:
This game is making me glaze over from the boring generic arguments you guys are having. this could be my new sig This guy is 100% town. Never lynching. did anyone point out how ruxxar didn't like damdred for being cold, but like this post where tumble says damdy has good tone? So because I disagree with a guy on one thing I can't call him town? No probably not. What particularly in tumbles post makes him so town?
I'm comparing this(town):
On July 14 2017 03:32 Tumblewood wrote:ok i'm back and i caught up to page 25 before skimming this last page. um new stuff: if rsoul is scum i doubt she thinks that posting squiggly nothings is not a good way to get town cred, so imma go with town skynx and damdred have ummmmm good tone rayn is getting into stupid arguments that i think he knows no one can win. i wanna say he's scum but first lemme make sure i didn't make this same read in that other game where i called him scum d1 and i was wrong also: Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 21:28 Holyflare wrote:
This game is making me glaze over from the boring generic arguments you guys are having. this could be my new sig
With this(mafia):
On June 16 2017 00:02 Tumblewood wrote:
i won't claim to have actually considered every player, but i'm thinking:
rels, grack, vivax, annul, disfo, koshi, ruxxar, btdt (in no particular order)
are probably town and definitely should not be lynched d1
preferably we lynch rayn or one of the afks
Part of it is meta,
But mostly I actually can see where his thoughts are coming from.
It might not look like much, but compared to his scum game, this might as well be a 3 page analysis.
More stuff:
The unapologetic confident tone of his other posts:
On July 13 2017 12:02 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 11:15 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 11:09 Tumblewood wrote:
this is my summary of the first 15 pages and what i've found:
rayn and ruxxar, to each other: "nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh"
(hesitantly i call that a tvt argument. i have ec associations with both of them but that doesn't matter because neither has flipped and neither is likely scum)
rest of the game: [nothing, or like 2 posts that basically amount to nothing] No scum reads at all. Nothing fishy sticking out to you? nope not really
On July 14 2017 04:24 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 04:22 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 04:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 03:48 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 03:32 Tumblewood wrote:ok i'm back and i caught up to page 25 before skimming this last page. um new stuff: if rsoul is scum i doubt she thinks that posting squiggly nothings is not a good way to get town cred, so imma go with town skynx and damdred have ummmmm good tone rayn is getting into stupid arguments that i think he knows no one can win. i wanna say he's scum but first lemme make sure i didn't make this same read in that other game where i called him scum d1 and i was wrong also: On July 13 2017 21:28 Holyflare wrote:
This game is making me glaze over from the boring generic arguments you guys are having. this could be my new sig How does skynx have good tone? cause i read his posts and was like "this guy sounds pretty townie" This isn't an answer dear you're not getting anything more descriptive because that's as far as it goes
This is a 180 from his timid mafia approach.
He's not trying to hide or disguise his presence in the thread.
Like I said: 100% town. Not lynching.
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On July 14 2017 05:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Yeah it's fair tumble looks ok to me too. I was curious to how your looking at things, I think it's good for now.
How much of your stance on koshi is wanting him to do stuff vs thinking he's scum?
100% scum until he shows me any reason to think otherwise.
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On July 14 2017 05:57 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 05:35 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 05:24 emperorchampion wrote:On July 14 2017 05:20 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 05:02 emperorchampion wrote:On July 14 2017 03:42 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 03:32 Tumblewood wrote:ok i'm back and i caught up to page 25 before skimming this last page. um new stuff: if rsoul is scum i doubt she thinks that posting squiggly nothings is not a good way to get town cred, so imma go with town skynx and damdred have ummmmm good tone rayn is getting into stupid arguments that i think he knows no one can win. i wanna say he's scum but first lemme make sure i didn't make this same read in that other game where i called him scum d1 and i was wrong also: On July 13 2017 21:28 Holyflare wrote:
This game is making me glaze over from the boring generic arguments you guys are having. this could be my new sig This guy is 100% town. Never lynching. did anyone point out how ruxxar didn't like damdred for being cold, but like this post where tumble says damdy has good tone? So because I disagree with a guy on one thing I can't call him town? No probably not. What particularly in tumbles post makes him so town? I'm comparing this(town): On July 14 2017 03:32 Tumblewood wrote:ok i'm back and i caught up to page 25 before skimming this last page. um new stuff: if rsoul is scum i doubt she thinks that posting squiggly nothings is not a good way to get town cred, so imma go with town skynx and damdred have ummmmm good tone rayn is getting into stupid arguments that i think he knows no one can win. i wanna say he's scum but first lemme make sure i didn't make this same read in that other game where i called him scum d1 and i was wrong also: On July 13 2017 21:28 Holyflare wrote:
This game is making me glaze over from the boring generic arguments you guys are having. this could be my new sig With this(mafia): On June 16 2017 00:02 Tumblewood wrote:
i won't claim to have actually considered every player, but i'm thinking:
rels, grack, vivax, annul, disfo, koshi, ruxxar, btdt (in no particular order)
are probably town and definitely should not be lynched d1
preferably we lynch rayn or one of the afks Part of it is meta, But mostly I actually can see where his thoughts are coming from. It might not look like much, but compared to his scum game, this might as well be a 3 page analysis. More stuff: The unapologetic confident tone of his other posts: On July 13 2017 12:02 Tumblewood wrote:On July 13 2017 11:15 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 11:09 Tumblewood wrote:
this is my summary of the first 15 pages and what i've found:
rayn and ruxxar, to each other: "nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh"
(hesitantly i call that a tvt argument. i have ec associations with both of them but that doesn't matter because neither has flipped and neither is likely scum)
rest of the game: [nothing, or like 2 posts that basically amount to nothing] No scum reads at all. Nothing fishy sticking out to you? nope not really On July 14 2017 04:24 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 04:22 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 04:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 03:48 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 03:32 Tumblewood wrote:ok i'm back and i caught up to page 25 before skimming this last page. um new stuff: if rsoul is scum i doubt she thinks that posting squiggly nothings is not a good way to get town cred, so imma go with town skynx and damdred have ummmmm good tone rayn is getting into stupid arguments that i think he knows no one can win. i wanna say he's scum but first lemme make sure i didn't make this same read in that other game where i called him scum d1 and i was wrong also: On July 13 2017 21:28 Holyflare wrote:
This game is making me glaze over from the boring generic arguments you guys are having. this could be my new sig How does skynx have good tone? cause i read his posts and was like "this guy sounds pretty townie" This isn't an answer dear you're not getting anything more descriptive because that's as far as it goes This is a 180 from his timid mafia approach. He's not trying to hide or disguise his presence in the thread. Like I said: 100% town. Not lynching. Don't fucking meta by trying to compare simple posts. It's the same dumb shit Rayn did. The funnier thing was I'm 99% sure that Rayn picked the game where I was traitor and Damdred played the game. That is not how you fucking meta.
That post was just a standout example.
Of course I'm taking more than that into account.
TW is town no matter how much you will it to be different.
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On July 14 2017 06:04 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 05:08 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 05:01 sicklucker wrote:On July 14 2017 04:59 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 04:56 sicklucker wrote:On July 14 2017 04:51 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 04:35 sicklucker wrote:On July 13 2017 22:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 21:37 sicklucker wrote:On July 13 2017 21:33 ruXxar wrote:
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1) your opening post basically declares "I'm going to play this game solo"
Which sets up the expectation of a low interactivity game from you.
Having that excuse in your back to take pressure of your non-interactivity is great from a mafia agenda point of view.
2) You are somber by the fact that you don't have the jesty/non-chalant way of talking as you did last game.
Example of posts you made as town that represent such a tone:
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Koshi had this planned before the game even started he talked about it in the obs qt and post game , last game.... Still mafia. man me and ruxxar came to every same conclusion last game right or wrong. Now everyone I think is mafia he thinks is town and vice versa. kill with fire The important difference is that we were both *wrong* last game. Not to mention that 80% of those reads was based on day 1 voting. Anyway, could you give me a rundown of which reads you have so I can compare? koshi rstoulin everytownread besides ryan probably I'm sorry, koshi and rsoul are what? neutral evils to the world Here's my problem with you SL. You're voting for me right now, but I dont feel like you're pushing me. It doesn't feel like your heart is in the vote. As I recall you votes me because you were sleeping Rayn. Now that Rayn is voting for VA, why do you still vote for me? Either push me with your scum read or go find somewhere else to park your vote. I believe Ihave 24 hours to pick my vote. why are you so annoyed its parked there
Because you're wasting your time when you could be catching scum.
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On July 14 2017 06:05 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 05:50 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 05:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Yeah it's fair tumble looks ok to me too. I was curious to how your looking at things, I think it's good for now.
How much of your stance on koshi is wanting him to do stuff vs thinking he's scum? 100% scum until he shows me any reason to think otherwise. This, from what I saw from your filter, is entirely based on meta. Is this true? I'd have to read koshi filter but I don't recall anything that I thought was too scummy.
No, it's not.
Look up my analysis of his opening post.
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On July 14 2017 06:08 emperorchampion wrote:
One last thing ruxxar: what's your evolution on rsoul read?
Until her list post I had an unfavorable view.
I liked the list post especially the fact that she wants to lynch koshi.
Not lynching her D1.
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On July 14 2017 06:33 emperorchampion wrote:
My brain is pretty much jello right now. I'll summarize my thoughts on ruxxar sometime tomorrow after / if he answers the questions I posted. Didn't really get around to too productively reading skynx, whoops. Pz
Reading your filter turns my brain into mush.
It's like s cloud of words swarming around with no rhyme or rhythm.
Could you try to put your evolution of scum reads on a timeline?
I feel like every post of yours your opinion changes, like a leaf in the wind,
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On July 14 2017 07:11 Holyflare wrote:
VA is definitely the best vote right now. He opens with mafia meta as a "trick" for reactions but the only person he would catch is rayn with that who was already vaguely town read. He also got a bad reaction from baiting ruxxar but didn't vote him. He also pre-emptively stated it was a bait before being scum read which we all know he doesn't usually give a shit about.
In fact VA is uncharacteristically not on any outlying wagon. More concerned with how he looks than anything.
Maybe it's just my limited experience with VA, but maybe he just doesn't know how to interact in a conversation with people?
I know it sounds fucking stupid, but maybe he's just having an awkward time trying to fit in.
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On July 14 2017 07:54 geript wrote:
So Rux... what did you think of my case on Skynx?
1. Skynx case on Rayn is flawed and based on half truths.
Basically it's a misguided failure.
Whether that is intentional or not is another point.
It fails to capture the minute details that you would have acquired by being here during the conversation and be engaged in the details of the postings.
In fact I thought Rayn made some really good points about you geript, which made you look bad and Rayn really good.
Especially the point about "for better reasons" and where Rayn says you don't actually go on to reveal these "better reasons".
Maybe I'm just biased, but to me clearly Rayn looked better from that.
I basically am getting deja vu of how btdt played last game, except skynx has more polish in the way he presents things.
Maybe I'm repeating the same mistake I did from last game by calling it bad/uninformed town, but skynx is not my #1 lynch today.
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Basically I'm willing to give him a chance, but if I keep seeing a pattern of cases that misrepresents actual thread events my opinion will change real quick.
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On July 14 2017 07:59 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 07:57 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 07:11 Holyflare wrote:
VA is definitely the best vote right now. He opens with mafia meta as a "trick" for reactions but the only person he would catch is rayn with that who was already vaguely town read. He also got a bad reaction from baiting ruxxar but didn't vote him. He also pre-emptively stated it was a bait before being scum read which we all know he doesn't usually give a shit about.
In fact VA is uncharacteristically not on any outlying wagon. More concerned with how he looks than anything. Maybe it's just my limited experience with VA, but maybe he just doesn't know how to interact in a conversation with people? I know it sounds fucking stupid, but maybe he's just having an awkward time trying to fit in. LOL No
Well.. then I can't find any excuses except saying it looks really bad.
Either he is really bad mafia, or he's trying some new town meta stuff I've never seen.
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However, for all the people looking bad, that is still just superficial fluff.
If you want to actually look at who is having a mafia agenda, skynx probably has the worst track record.
The case on Rayn might've been a mafia attempt at taking down a town leader and not having to waste a NK on him.
It was obviously a low percentage play, but I can see the mafia motivation behind it.
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@geript
I'm aboard.
##vote skynx
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On July 14 2017 08:45 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 23:05 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 22:56 VayneAuthority wrote:
Also Skynx has started this game wildly different, he was really passive last game day 1 mostly being receptive to conversation and putting out comments. This game he went immediately full attack mode and super aggressive. That is interesting. I agree that is interesting. But I think skynx is misguided. I'm pretty confident Rayn is town. Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 04:01 ruXxar wrote:
TW is right, I also like your tone skynx.
You have an analytical, critical yet patient and non-derogatory demeanor about you.
I enjoy reading your posts and talking to you. Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 08:14 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 07:54 geript wrote:
So Rux... what did you think of my case on Skynx? 1. Skynx case on Rayn is flawed and based on half truths. Basically it's a misguided failure. Whether that is intentional or not is another point. What in the actual fuck Rux? Is he misguided? Is he analytical? Is he based on half truths? Like WTF
All of the above.
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On July 14 2017 09:01 geript wrote:
How can you be analytical and have it based on half truths? Like those are basically complete opposites.
Because analysis based on incomplete or incorrect information is still analysis.
There is no conflict here.
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And even if the conclusion is wrong or you disagree with it, it's still analysis.
Someone could've made an honest effort and simply missed the mark.
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On July 14 2017 09:43 geript wrote:
Analysis is like showing your work on a math problem
Analytical is like making sure you did do something dumb like dividing by 0.
DNU
My definition of analytical is a person performing analysis.
If that's wrong then I'm sorry, but that's what I mean with what I'm saying.
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And by analysis I mean doing an in depth evaluation of a persons actions and motivations, drawing connections and forming conclusions.
In my head I'm comparing it to a chemistry lab report analysis not a math problem.
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If there is s better/more appropriate word for that please let me know. I'd hate for us to get confused by a language barrier.
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On July 14 2017 09:09 geript wrote:
I'm not seeing a good way to meta read Ruxx. Part of it is low number of games; part if it is I'm only seeing 2 scum games one of which he subbed in 125+ pages into it. Even his town games are all the fuck over the place. Am not happy.
Do you want to lynch skynx or not?
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