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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 18:54 GMT
#1967
Can somebody else answer Ruxxar because I don't understand what he asks.

town!TW likes to solve games.
TW is nowhere close to solving this game and bases reads on thread sentiment
---> mafia!TW
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 18:59 GMT
#1971
I said the now because last time I said something about TW and that was incorrect ↓. But this time I am sure I am correct.
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.


Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:02 GMT
#1975
On July 17 2017 04:00 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 03:47 Koshi wrote:
TW/Rels/EC/sicklucker

Pretty happy with it.

TBH without myself it looks good. You're beginning to look like town

Hail Koshi!
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:03 GMT
#1976
On July 17 2017 04:01 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 03:59 Koshi wrote:
I said the now because last time I said something about TW and that was incorrect ↓. But this time I am sure I am correct.
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.


Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town.



You don't answer my question.

Why?

Last time I wasn't sure about something I said and this time I was sure.

Holy fuck... In which wolrd does it even matter???
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:06 GMT
#1978
On July 17 2017 04:04 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 04:03 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:01 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 03:59 Koshi wrote:
I said the now because last time I said something about TW and that was incorrect ↓. But this time I am sure I am correct.
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.


Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town.



You don't answer my question.

Why?

Last time I wasn't sure about something I said and this time I was sure.

Holy fuck... In which wolrd does it even matter???


So this new surety of TWs play style just manifested itself out of nothing?

my brain? and the fact I played a lot with him.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:07 GMT
#1979
I prefer the quiet ruXxar that worshipped me from last game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:09 GMT
#1982
On July 17 2017 04:07 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 04:06 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:04 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:03 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:01 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 03:59 Koshi wrote:
I said the now because last time I said something about TW and that was incorrect ↓. But this time I am sure I am correct.
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.


Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town.



You don't answer my question.

Why?

Last time I wasn't sure about something I said and this time I was sure.

Holy fuck... In which wolrd does it even matter???


So this new surety of TWs play style just manifested itself out of nothing?

my brain? and the fact I played a lot with him.


So why weren't you she before, but now you are sure?

Cuz 1 thing I wasn't sure about. But the other thing I was sure about.

It's like:
Koshi: I am not sure I ate a banana last week but I think I did.
Koshi's mom: No you didn't eat a banana last weak.
Koshi: oh ok, but now I am sure about the fact I ate a apple last week.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:10 GMT
#1984
On July 17 2017 04:10 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 04:07 Koshi wrote:
I prefer the quiet ruXxar that worshipped me from last game.


If you had played like last game I'd have no reason to scum read you.

Where is the fun in that?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:13 GMT
#1987
On July 17 2017 04:13 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 04:09 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:07 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:06 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:04 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:03 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:01 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 03:59 Koshi wrote:
I said the now because last time I said something about TW and that was incorrect ↓. But this time I am sure I am correct.
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.


Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town.



You don't answer my question.

Why?

Last time I wasn't sure about something I said and this time I was sure.

Holy fuck... In which wolrd does it even matter???


So this new surety of TWs play style just manifested itself out of nothing?

my brain? and the fact I played a lot with him.


So why weren't you she before, but now you are sure?

Cuz 1 thing I wasn't sure about. But the other thing I was sure about.

It's like:
Koshi: I am not sure I ate a banana last week but I think I did.
Koshi's mom: No you didn't eat a banana last weak.
Koshi: oh ok, but now I am sure about the fact I ate a apple last week.


??? That analogy is about recollecting memory.

It has nothing to do with you forming a new opinion on a subject.

Please reread those posts I made. Pls pls pls.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:18 GMT
#1991
On July 17 2017 04:14 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 04:09 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:07 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:06 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:04 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:03 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:01 ruXxar wrote:
On July 17 2017 03:59 Koshi wrote:
I said the now because last time I said something about TW and that was incorrect ↓. But this time I am sure I am correct.
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.


Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town.



You don't answer my question.

Why?

Last time I wasn't sure about something I said and this time I was sure.

Holy fuck... In which wolrd does it even matter???


So this new surety of TWs play style just manifested itself out of nothing?

my brain? and the fact I played a lot with him.


So why weren't you she before, but now you are sure?

Cuz 1 thing I wasn't sure about. But the other thing I was sure about.

It's like:
Koshi: I am not sure I ate a banana last week but I think I did.
Koshi's mom: No you didn't eat a banana last weak.
Koshi: oh ok, but now I am sure about the fact I ate a apple last week.


So let me ask you this. You were wrong about TW's meta in your original post which means you don't even know how he correctly plays or what he posts like. So how do you now know that TW is a confident person that says his reads and doesn't care how he looks if you didn't know the first time?

ALSO isn't this read the exact same as what you're scum reading TW for about how he forced a read onto VA about him being excited and town? It looks the same to me.

What the fuck did I write that you people make those conclusion. How did I write the bolded?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:26 GMT
#1996
On July 17 2017 04:21 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 03:34 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 03:29 ruXxar wrote:
Koshi did you read my case on TW?

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 16 2017 10:52 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 09:53 geript wrote:
@HF. I'd like to get your opinion on TW. IMO, he looks like a great flip (better than Rux). He seems to have a lot of opinions without many suppositions. Many of those opinions are correct and I don't think he was more than mediocre when I've played with him previously.


I'm reviewing my read on TW, who I previously had as lock town.

The reason for my lock town read, was a very strong tone and meta read from his first list post.

After now reviewing his filter again, my opinion on him has changed from locked town to free agent.

Here is one of my findings on why my opinion changed:

Here he says who he wants to lynch due to his Poe.
But more importantly he mentions the *order* in which he wants to lynch.

Indicating that this is his strongest scum reads from left to right:

Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 14:51 Tumblewood wrote:
the scary thing is i don't think hf is obvious mafia this game. idk what that's supposed to mean but i don't think i want to lynch him today

...

actually looking at the playerlist, if you remove everyone i had some reason to not wanna lynch today it's only 4 people. and that's ec/va/rels/koshi. so imma lynch into them in that order(ish) and then after than idk
but if i wanna actually be decent i'll have to filter people. tomorrow (TM)


HOWEVER.

When I question him later why EC is his primary scum read(as indicated from the post above), this is the response I get:

Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 01:52 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 01:50 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 01:46 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:52 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:49 Skynx wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:31 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:28 Skynx wrote:
On July 15 2017 00:25 ruXxar wrote:
VA. Tumblewood, rels.

Please vote.

What? TW was 100 town????


Yes?

What did he do wrong? What did Rels do wrong?


They haven't voted yet.

chill, i have like 5 hours left to do this


Why is EC scum?

i didn't say he is. i said he was one of four people i had no reason to townread, and right now i am filtering him


I find it suspicious that before even filtering his *primary* scum read, he has already determined the order in which he want to lynch his scum reads.

This tells me that he constructed the order in which he wanted to lynch people based on something else than their actual posts in the game.

This could be mafia wanting to push a lynch agenda suited to third agenda.

It really seemed to catch TW off-guard to be questioned about this, when he should've already had his reasons clear to him on the lynch order if he was town.


I read it but just kept in the back of my mind as "possible true".
Rereading it now, I like the a lot. Shows TW is not finding mafia and just going with the flow this game.

And now I am pretty sure about the fact TW is somebody who does not care about how people perceive him but about solving the game. If needed on his own.


THIS is how you define TW's town game, correct?

Right, so now you are saying this whereas previously you said this:

Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.


Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town.


So you've gone somehow from TW not being someone to make those reads into TW being someone that makes those reads and doesn't care how he looks (as town) out of thin air.

Where did that switch come from?


The first quote has nothing to do with how he reads people but that he plays mafia to solve the game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:28 GMT
#1998
On July 17 2017 04:25 ruXxar wrote:
You went from this:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.

To this:
Show nested quote +
And now I am pretty sure about the fact TW is somebody who does not care about how people perceive him but about solving the game. If needed on his own.


What changed in between?

How do I in the second quote say that TW makes posts based on things like "VA looks excited"
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:29 GMT
#1999
On July 17 2017 04:28 Holyflare wrote:
And how does he display solving the game as town koshi if you don't know how he plays town to begin with as outlined by your first quote when you say he doesn't speak in absolutes?

I actually do know how he plays as town because I played a ton of games with him. I just didn't know that fact for sure. AS I FUCKING SAID.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:30 GMT
#2000
tbh you people are being fucking dumbasses here. There is no disconnect nowhere between those 2 sentences.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:32 GMT
#2002
If this is the same person you can shoot me through the head:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/522886-newbie-student-mafia-xxvi?user=Tumblewood&page=5
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:33 GMT
#2003
On July 17 2017 04:32 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 04:29 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 04:28 Holyflare wrote:
And how does he display solving the game as town koshi if you don't know how he plays town to begin with as outlined by your first quote when you say he doesn't speak in absolutes?

I actually do know how he plays as town because I played a ton of games with him. I just didn't know that fact for sure. AS I FUCKING SAID.


you said only mafia plays in absolutes (which is an absolute and therefore you're mafia) but actually TW as town plays in absolutes too so you have no idea what you're talking about and made up false meta

While I said "I am not sure if he plays like this" So I didn't try to push false meta in the game. I just cba to check it because I thought I was right.

I fucking said: "I AM NOT SURE ABOUT THIS BUT"
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:35 GMT
#2006
Read 5 pages of that filter and nowhere he says "x is town because he was so excited"
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:37 GMT
#2007
HF read that meta and go find me a similar read.

gogogo
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:37 GMT
#2008
read that filter
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 16 2017 19:37 GMT
#2009
I read another 3 pages and didn't see something even remotely similar
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