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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
July 14 2017 05:51 GMT
#801
the scary thing is i don't think hf is obvious mafia this game. idk what that's supposed to mean but i don't think i want to lynch him today

...

actually looking at the playerlist, if you remove everyone i had some reason to not wanna lynch today it's only 4 people. and that's ec/va/rels/koshi. so imma lynch into them in that order(ish) and then after than idk
but if i wanna actually be decent i'll have to filter people. tomorrow (TM)
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
July 14 2017 05:54 GMT
#802
On July 14 2017 14:50 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 14:37 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 14 2017 08:14 ruXxar wrote:
On July 14 2017 07:54 geript wrote:
So Rux... what did you think of my case on Skynx?


1. Skynx case on Rayn is flawed and based on half truths.
Basically it's a misguided failure.
Whether that is intentional or not is another point.

It fails to capture the minute details that you would have acquired by being here during the conversation and be engaged in the details of the postings.

In fact I thought Rayn made some really good points about you geript, which made you look bad and Rayn really good.

Especially the point about "for better reasons" and where Rayn says you don't actually go on to reveal these "better reasons".

Maybe I'm just biased, but to me clearly Rayn looked better from that.

I basically am getting deja vu of how btdt played last game, except skynx has more polish in the way he presents things.

Maybe I'm repeating the same mistake I did from last game by calling it bad/uninformed town, but skynx is not my #1 lynch today.

i think rux has gotta be town

Why?

well firstly i don't think scum!rux is attacking skynx's case on someone else because of minute details. that is a very not mafia reason
and since i made that post i caught up fully and i am 100% sure on this
good times for all
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 14 2017 06:11 GMT
#803
On July 14 2017 14:54 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 14:50 geript wrote:
On July 14 2017 14:37 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 14 2017 08:14 ruXxar wrote:
On July 14 2017 07:54 geript wrote:
So Rux... what did you think of my case on Skynx?


1. Skynx case on Rayn is flawed and based on half truths.
Basically it's a misguided failure.
Whether that is intentional or not is another point.

It fails to capture the minute details that you would have acquired by being here during the conversation and be engaged in the details of the postings.

In fact I thought Rayn made some really good points about you geript, which made you look bad and Rayn really good.

Especially the point about "for better reasons" and where Rayn says you don't actually go on to reveal these "better reasons".

Maybe I'm just biased, but to me clearly Rayn looked better from that.

I basically am getting deja vu of how btdt played last game, except skynx has more polish in the way he presents things.

Maybe I'm repeating the same mistake I did from last game by calling it bad/uninformed town, but skynx is not my #1 lynch today.

i think rux has gotta be town

Why?

well firstly i don't think scum!rux is attacking skynx's case on someone else because of minute details. that is a very not mafia reason
and since i made that post i caught up fully and i am 100% sure on this

So where and why did Rux attack Skynx's case?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 14 2017 07:36 GMT
#804
On July 14 2017 05:57 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 05:35 ruXxar wrote:
On July 14 2017 05:24 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 14 2017 05:20 ruXxar wrote:
On July 14 2017 05:02 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 14 2017 03:42 ruXxar wrote:
On July 14 2017 03:32 Tumblewood wrote:
ok i'm back and i caught up to page 25 before skimming this last page. um new stuff:

if rsoul is scum i doubt she thinks that posting squiggly nothings is not a good way to get town cred, so imma go with town
skynx and damdred have ummmmm good tone
rayn is getting into stupid arguments that i think he knows no one can win. i wanna say he's scum but first lemme make sure i didn't make this same read in that other game where i called him scum d1 and i was wrong

also:
On July 13 2017 21:28 Holyflare wrote:
This game is making me glaze over from the boring generic arguments you guys are having.
this could be my new sig


This guy is 100% town.

Never lynching.


did anyone point out how ruxxar didn't like damdred for being cold, but like this post where tumble says damdy has good tone?


So because I disagree with a guy on one thing I can't call him town?


No probably not. What particularly in tumbles post makes him so town?


I'm comparing this(town):
On July 14 2017 03:32 Tumblewood wrote:
ok i'm back and i caught up to page 25 before skimming this last page. um new stuff:

if rsoul is scum i doubt she thinks that posting squiggly nothings is not a good way to get town cred, so imma go with town
skynx and damdred have ummmmm good tone
rayn is getting into stupid arguments that i think he knows no one can win. i wanna say he's scum but first lemme make sure i didn't make this same read in that other game where i called him scum d1 and i was wrong

also:
On July 13 2017 21:28 Holyflare wrote:
This game is making me glaze over from the boring generic arguments you guys are having.
this could be my new sig


With this(mafia):
On June 16 2017 00:02 Tumblewood wrote:
i won't claim to have actually considered every player, but i'm thinking:
rels, grack, vivax, annul, disfo, koshi, ruxxar, btdt (in no particular order)
are probably town and definitely should not be lynched d1
preferably we lynch rayn or one of the afks


Part of it is meta,

But mostly I actually can see where his thoughts are coming from.

It might not look like much, but compared to his scum game, this might as well be a 3 page analysis.

More stuff:

The unapologetic confident tone of his other posts:

On July 13 2017 12:02 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 13 2017 11:15 ruXxar wrote:
On July 13 2017 11:09 Tumblewood wrote:
this is my summary of the first 15 pages and what i've found:
rayn and ruxxar, to each other: "nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh"

(hesitantly i call that a tvt argument. i have ec associations with both of them but that doesn't matter because neither has flipped and neither is likely scum)

rest of the game: [nothing, or like 2 posts that basically amount to nothing]


No scum reads at all. Nothing fishy sticking out to you?

nope not really

On July 14 2017 04:24 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 14 2017 04:22 geript wrote:
On July 14 2017 04:16 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 14 2017 03:48 geript wrote:
On July 14 2017 03:32 Tumblewood wrote:
ok i'm back and i caught up to page 25 before skimming this last page. um new stuff:

if rsoul is scum i doubt she thinks that posting squiggly nothings is not a good way to get town cred, so imma go with town
skynx and damdred have ummmmm good tone
rayn is getting into stupid arguments that i think he knows no one can win. i wanna say he's scum but first lemme make sure i didn't make this same read in that other game where i called him scum d1 and i was wrong

also:
On July 13 2017 21:28 Holyflare wrote:
This game is making me glaze over from the boring generic arguments you guys are having.
this could be my new sig

How does skynx have good tone?

cause i read his posts and was like "this guy sounds pretty townie"

This isn't an answer dear

you're not getting anything more descriptive because that's as far as it goes


This is a 180 from his timid mafia approach.
He's not trying to hide or disguise his presence in the thread.

Like I said: 100% town. Not lynching.

Don't fucking meta by trying to compare simple posts. It's the same dumb shit Rayn did. The funnier thing was I'm 99% sure that Rayn picked the game where I was traitor and Damdred played the game. That is not how you fucking meta.

[W] Newbie Mini Mafia XXXVII Town Vanilla Scum killed Night 1
[N] TL Mafia LX Town Vanilla Lynched Day 3
[W] Newbie Mini Mafia XXXVIII Town Jailkeeper Survived Day 4
[N] The Game Mafia Snake Survived Day 5
[T] Boardwalk Empire Mafia: Pick Your Power Town Vanilla Survived Day 5
[M][N] PTP IV - Demons Run Mafia Strax Lynched Day 3
[T] Nuclear Winter Mafia Town Missile Defense System Killed Night 4
[M][N] Gold Rush Micro Mafia Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 2
[T] Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2 Town Atrophic Mage Lynched Day 2
[N] TL Mafia LXII: TL Noir Town Vanilla Modkilled Day 3
[T] PYP: League of Legends Mafia Town Twitch Modkilled Night 2
[M][N] Cultured Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Modkilled Night 3
[T] Catastrophe Mafia Town Famine Survived Night 7
[N] You Only Shoot Once Mafia Town Martyr Killed Night 1
[M][N] Arnie got his gun mafia. Mafia Roleblocker Survived Day 1
[N] TL Mafia LXVIII: Fanfic Crossover Edition Town Vanilla Modkilled Day 2
[M][T] Devils Riddle Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 2
[M][N] Avogadros Number Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 2
[M][N] Russia Today Mafia 1-shot Vigilante Endgamed Day 3
[N] Imperial Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 2
[S] Student Mafia V Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 4
[M][N] Slytherin Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Survived Day 3
[M][N] Office Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Modkilled Night 1
[T] Jack of All Trades Mafia Mafia Vanilla Killed Day 3
[M][N] Carnaval do Brasil Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 1
[S] Newbie Student Mafia XI Town Vanilla Lynched Day 1
[N] TL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden Town Tracker Killed Night 2
[M][N] Lost But Not Forgotten Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Survived Day 2
[T] The New Personality Mafia Town rsoultin Endgamed Day 6
[M][T] Season of the Witch 2 Town Wandering Wraith Killed Night 1
[M][N] Completely Normal Generic Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 4
[S] Newbie Student Mafia XVII: Fullmetal Edition Town Vanilla Killed Night 1
[T] Pick Your Power: Intriguing Town Link the Hero of Time Killed Night 1
[M][N] Noir Mini Mafia: Chapter 4 Mafia Roleblocker Lynched Day 5
[M][N] Star Wars: Rogue 1 Hype Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 3

which one of these is this game where you were a traitor?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 14 2017 07:39 GMT
#805
On July 14 2017 06:49 Holyflare wrote:
Honestly I can see townies do everything you've listed though.


Even more importantly, almost always townies do most of those things.
Like who does write a case as mafia half-way through the thread? That's not what you do as mafia, you wanna be sure your case "holds", not throw some random ass shit.
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 14 2017 07:40 GMT
#806
I don't think it was any of those. It was the game where Marv, DP, +3. I think it was like chez, some newbie, +1. I just remember thinking that like 2 people were confirmed mafia and finding super obvious ways to get themselves killed. It was a big game but I can't remember who hosted it for sure; I think Hapa cohosted or helped though.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 14 2017 07:41 GMT
#807
Funnily enough geripts case on Skynx is based on the same behavior he is showing when making his case...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 14 2017 07:57 GMT
#808
So.. I was actually quite confused yesterday and thought i must be wrong on something since i thought rsoultin has to be mafia when she is saying nothing of value. And also she doesnt fit into a scumteam with ruxxar since i dont believe basically the first post someone makes is a day pass to their scumbuddy. I mean it's not impossible, jsut very unlikely.

My problem with the rsoultin/HF/Koshi trio is that technically any of them can be mafia. I was quite sure rsoultin is mafia but i am not that sure anymore. The real problem is i kinda think Holyflare is mafia but my reasoning is super bullshit since it doesn't make any sense.

I would give like 65% chance for HF to be town and really the rest 35% only comes from the fact that he says things i like. That's exactly what i always do as mafia, i just watch the game, predict the outcomes and say things people like -- and things that don't kill my team before people don't have to like me anymore (aka i kill those people). I am never going to lynch Holyflare D1 unless i am completely certain he is mafia (which i am definitely not) or the process of elimination excludes the possibility of him being town. And i definitely do not lynch people who i think are doing townie things.

I am probably no going to lynch Koshi either. I am gonna give him a 60% chance of being town, and he will start playing at some point. When he does, his alignment will become clear. If he doesn't, just lynch with fire.

I think rsoultin's list is almost too unreal to come from scum. I believe you cannot predict the outcome of how people view you if you make a list like that. I don't like the fact i don't even understand what she is talking about regarding EC, but it only makes sense (her not trying to push her read through) as mafia in case basically all the real lynch targets are town atm. So yeah, i am conflicted but heart says town.



I thought geript might be town but then he just started saying things that make absolutely no sense at all so there is that.

On top of everything ruxxar's read on Koshi is super weird. He says he is "occupied" with Koshi. He scumreads Koshi for something other people pointed out is not a legit reason to scumread Koshi because Koshi said this is going to be the way he plays before the game. I understand you can ignore that, and think you are right instead, but there must be at least some doubt in your mind. Like you can't ignore the fact that all the evidence for you being wrong in your reasoning is there. Then what he does. Is never trying to even interact with Koshi same as "occupied" with Koshi? He literally talks about (and to) everything except for Koshi. I believe it's more likely he's trying to ride with Koshi not playing -> people thinking he is mafia -> can push.

That's where i am at the moment. Tumblewood gets an upgrade into town pile but i'd like to hear more from him. Like.. I pretty much think everyone is town except for my scumreads and Rels.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 14 2017 08:05 GMT
#809
actually scrap that sicklucker townread once again. but i dont really think he's mafia either.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 14 2017 08:06 GMT
#810
Did ruxxar call sicklucker scum, or imply that?
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 14 2017 08:14 GMT
#811
I don't recall, but when I read his filter he was all over the fucking place. Like he's so fucking insane without any specific thing.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 14 2017 08:15 GMT
#812
TBH, i'm pretty waffly about rsoultin too which makes me sad.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 14 2017 08:17 GMT
#813
On July 14 2017 17:14 geript wrote:
I don't recall, but when I read his filter he was all over the fucking place. Like he's so fucking insane without any specific thing.

who, ruxxar? all of ruxxar's psots look "fine" but it doesnt matter because if you talk about townies you are always gonna be looking "fine" when you call them town. the problem is what he says he is doing doesnt match what he is doing.
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 14 2017 08:18 GMT
#814
Yes, Ruxxar. I really hate his thing on Skynx. Might be biased idk
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 14 2017 08:18 GMT
#815
I'm not mafia though that's what you all need to take from this.

Definitely not blue either.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 14 2017 08:19 GMT
#816
On July 14 2017 03:46 ruXxar wrote:
Right now I'm occupied with koshI.

like seriously, his vote has been on Koshi all game, he cared about it enough to inform the hosts his vote is on Koshi. Where does this "occupied" thing show in his filter, before of after this post?

Same thing with EC, he shows great interest in something, even points it out, then does nothing with it.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 14 2017 08:19 GMT
#817
On July 14 2017 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
I'm removing rsoul from my town list. I just can't bring myself to keep her there. No way she has me in a list of people she wants to lynch with Koshi and EC when the only time in the game she's interacted with me was when she saw that I had the same thoughts on EC as her

"can't remember what he wrote" is garbage


Nobody gonna mention this?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 14 2017 08:20 GMT
#818
Also the reasons I'm voting va are sheeping koshi's points and rayn but why isn't koshi voting va?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 14 2017 08:22 GMT
#819
On July 14 2017 17:19 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
I'm removing rsoul from my town list. I just can't bring myself to keep her there. No way she has me in a list of people she wants to lynch with Koshi and EC when the only time in the game she's interacted with me was when she saw that I had the same thoughts on EC as her

"can't remember what he wrote" is garbage


Nobody gonna mention this?

I don't think it is her mafia play to make a scumlist of 2 people who she basically cannot lynch in any way at this point of the game and one person who she isn't really even trying to lynch. Unless ofc we are complete garbage atm as a town.
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beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-14 20:48:04
July 14 2017 08:23 GMT
#820
D1: Vote Count #3


  • rsoultin (2) - Holyflare, Koshi, Damdred
  • ruXxar (0) - raynpelikoneet
  • Koshi (0) - ruXxar
  • emperorchampion (1) - rsoultin
  • raynpelikoneet (0) - sicklucker, Skynx
  • VayneAuthority (3) - raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, sicklucker
  • Skynx (2) - geript, ruXxar

Non-voters (5) - Tumblewood, Rels, VayneAuthority, emperorchampion, Skynx


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