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Here's the reasons why I really want to lynch Skynx:
On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
I haven't completely read everything yet but I hate rayn most of everyone in the thread so far.
I always hate this sort of shit. It's a bland flat out statement that says that everything in the post is able to be ignored.
On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
I mean ok valid point but then they both keep on producing 3-4 pages of filter of absolutely nothing of value. This is the argument and thats it.
Anyway thats not the main point:
If ruxxar is mafia, doesn't that also make EC mafia? I mean you're scumreading Ruxxar for not enforcing his argument, which you consider the best post at the time.
The funny thing is that this prima facie is an ok summary. But the thing is that it's also irrelevant. It's kinda inconsistent of Rayn to apply X to Rux and not to EC, but that's how the world works. This is just pointing out an instance where there's an inconsistency which literally goes no where.
On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
That means you like the idea behind and if you actually paid attention, you would realise that makes EC mafia. Yet you post nothing on EC and focus on Ruxxar.
On top of that, if you actually think Ruxxar is mafia and if you are town, even if you don't notice it EC is mafia at the same time, that means Ruxxar is just attempting to bus his teammate as the first real action in the thread??
rayn's action don't add up here, not posting anything on EC is prolly the worst but he's just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion.
Skynx bothers to expand a decent bit on the inconsistency. But to what point?
The real kicker is here:
On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
This is the 'case' on geript. One post he calls terrible, doesn't explain why its terrible and that is enough for him to put geript into his 100% scumpile. Then he accuses Ruxxar for having bad reasons to scumread geript. Then geript makes a nice sizeable post, explaining his thought process and why nothing already been said doesn't make sense and this just gets ridiculed.
I posted my explanation here. Rayn posted his scumread on me 14 posts earlier here.
***BIG POINT READ THIS***
Skynx hasn't bothered to actually read Rayn's point. He's just picking at inconsistencies. Even worse, he hasn't read the whole thread, thinks Rayn is scum, AND HASN'T EVEN BOTHERED TO FILTER RAYN. Like the first thing you do when you think someone is scum is fucking filter them.
On July 13 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:
rayn's [...] just spamming the thread trying to enforce his idea and stirring shit up, not really pushing the game forward. From start to p13-14 its just this idea creating pointless discussion.
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I think rayn is a massive town distractive pile of scum trash. He's just talking a lot and hoping people would listen to him when he says "This guy is scum just follow me".
On July 13 2017 21:02 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 20:59 Holyflare wrote:
Hey rayn. If you thought the case ruxxar posted to ec was good and ec didn't answer it properly why do you not engage ec on it? Good point.
On July 14 2017 02:08 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 22:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:So skynx when you are off from the break here is the last thing i am gonna say about this: You have three options: 1) I am town and i actually came to this game with a plan of yolo-townreading Koshi and Holyflare from the get go and focusing on posting something semi-garbage and figuring out connections thinking they would lead a day 1 lynch (as they are good at it, even if one of them is town) and then i would sheep and lay out all the shit i have on N1. Then i figured out ruxxar is mafia so i couldn't help myself stopping what i was doing and playing the game normally. 2) I am mafia and EC is mafia. I called ruxxar's post on him good (i think that's what you're trying to say?) and then i called out ruxxar for his case i know is good (since EC is mafia with me -- right?). And you think i am gonna roll with that? I must be the worst mafia player of all times. 3) I am mafia and EC is town. I called ruxxar's post on him good (i think that's what you're trying to say?) and then i called out ruxxar for his case i know is bad. And i could just go with the good case instead? I am directly contradicting myself and i came up with some bullshit reasoning (see (1)) before all of this happened? You should tell me I am a wizard!
Before you say "but that's what you are accusing geript of", no, it is not. geript looks like he did stuff and had the answers for possible concerns beforehand already, if you read what happened here and think i did the same then... again, you're a wizard harry. + Show Spoiler [only for tina's eyes] +and no, that 1-day mafia was a one time thing.  superbia fucked up imo and i thought i didn't have a choise. i always have a choise at the start of normal D1. I think you are town now btw but if you had a plan and deviate from it means you're very sure on Ruxxar sr and all i get is the same thing over and over again.
Rayn is legit spamming the thread, something that's only gotten worse as the day has gone on. Skynx +1's a HF post on it. And 5 hours later is magically a townread.
On July 14 2017 03:03 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 02:55 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 02:43 Skynx wrote:On July 14 2017 02:39 Damdred wrote:On July 14 2017 02:38 Skynx wrote:
rayn, if you're 100% on VA that means you have your absolute scumteam in VA, Ruxxar, geript? Where are you going with this Cuz thats pretty optimistic having to have 3 very strong townreads in 1st 24 hours. I'm curious how he progresses his Ruxxar read as i think they are both town. Me and who else is town? Geript? Also, why does it matter how many scum reads he has? Yes, I like geript for his reactions when rayn pushed him, felt natural and logical to me.
People who have never played with me before almost always think I'm scummy. Almost without exception. Additionally, I tend to have a very meandering logic to my thought process. So a player without any experience with me, finding my posts "natural and logical" is fucking alarm bells all over the place.
On July 14 2017 03:08 Skynx wrote:
Damdred please explaing geript and tina reads. I'm not buying the dull and boring on tina, she's not playing a town game at any rate until now which is pretty obvious but why not tell it that way?
Has read damdred's post on tina which is here but not the read on me which is here which is 5 fucking posts before it.
TLDR
1. Skynx downplays his own post
2. Skynx picks at trivial things
3. Skynx doesn't bother to filter Rayn
4. Skynx is legit not reading while trying to make it seem like he has
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On July 14 2017 05:35 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 05:24 emperorchampion wrote:On July 14 2017 05:20 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 05:02 emperorchampion wrote:On July 14 2017 03:42 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 03:32 Tumblewood wrote:ok i'm back and i caught up to page 25 before skimming this last page. um new stuff: if rsoul is scum i doubt she thinks that posting squiggly nothings is not a good way to get town cred, so imma go with town skynx and damdred have ummmmm good tone rayn is getting into stupid arguments that i think he knows no one can win. i wanna say he's scum but first lemme make sure i didn't make this same read in that other game where i called him scum d1 and i was wrong also: On July 13 2017 21:28 Holyflare wrote:
This game is making me glaze over from the boring generic arguments you guys are having. this could be my new sig This guy is 100% town. Never lynching. did anyone point out how ruxxar didn't like damdred for being cold, but like this post where tumble says damdy has good tone? So because I disagree with a guy on one thing I can't call him town? No probably not. What particularly in tumbles post makes him so town? I'm comparing this(town): Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 03:32 Tumblewood wrote:ok i'm back and i caught up to page 25 before skimming this last page. um new stuff: if rsoul is scum i doubt she thinks that posting squiggly nothings is not a good way to get town cred, so imma go with town skynx and damdred have ummmmm good tone rayn is getting into stupid arguments that i think he knows no one can win. i wanna say he's scum but first lemme make sure i didn't make this same read in that other game where i called him scum d1 and i was wrong also: On July 13 2017 21:28 Holyflare wrote:
This game is making me glaze over from the boring generic arguments you guys are having. this could be my new sig With this(mafia): Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 00:02 Tumblewood wrote:
i won't claim to have actually considered every player, but i'm thinking:
rels, grack, vivax, annul, disfo, koshi, ruxxar, btdt (in no particular order)
are probably town and definitely should not be lynched d1
preferably we lynch rayn or one of the afks Part of it is meta, But mostly I actually can see where his thoughts are coming from. It might not look like much, but compared to his scum game, this might as well be a 3 page analysis. More stuff: The unapologetic confident tone of his other posts: Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 12:02 Tumblewood wrote:On July 13 2017 11:15 ruXxar wrote:On July 13 2017 11:09 Tumblewood wrote:
this is my summary of the first 15 pages and what i've found:
rayn and ruxxar, to each other: "nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh"
(hesitantly i call that a tvt argument. i have ec associations with both of them but that doesn't matter because neither has flipped and neither is likely scum)
rest of the game: [nothing, or like 2 posts that basically amount to nothing] No scum reads at all. Nothing fishy sticking out to you? nope not really Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 04:24 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 04:22 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 04:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 03:48 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 03:32 Tumblewood wrote:ok i'm back and i caught up to page 25 before skimming this last page. um new stuff: if rsoul is scum i doubt she thinks that posting squiggly nothings is not a good way to get town cred, so imma go with town skynx and damdred have ummmmm good tone rayn is getting into stupid arguments that i think he knows no one can win. i wanna say he's scum but first lemme make sure i didn't make this same read in that other game where i called him scum d1 and i was wrong also: On July 13 2017 21:28 Holyflare wrote:
This game is making me glaze over from the boring generic arguments you guys are having. this could be my new sig How does skynx have good tone? cause i read his posts and was like "this guy sounds pretty townie" This isn't an answer dear you're not getting anything more descriptive because that's as far as it goes This is a 180 from his timid mafia approach. He's not trying to hide or disguise his presence in the thread. Like I said: 100% town. Not lynching.
Don't fucking meta by trying to compare simple posts. It's the same dumb shit Rayn did. The funnier thing was I'm 99% sure that Rayn picked the game where I was traitor and Damdred played the game. That is not how you fucking meta.
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FWIW, Vayne's been posting on LiquidLegends but not over here.
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On July 14 2017 06:05 Holyflare wrote:
Ruxxar/skynx/va switch with damdred outlier
Damdred is not mafia even though he's stolen my heart. Tricks on him, I never had one in the first place.
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On July 14 2017 06:16 Holyflare wrote:
Cool story.
I don't buy it. His rsoul read looks fucking suspicious now I think rsoul is town.
He's town. I know it in my heart. Plus, if I find Marv we're going to have a 3-some tonight. You're welcome to join.
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On July 13 2017 14:01 geript wrote:
People who have not played the game at all:
Rels
Tumblewood
Koshi
VayneAuthority
Rsoultin
Skynx
Sicklucker
People who have barely played the game at all:
Holyflare
Eurochampion
Damdred
People who have played the game too damn much:
Rayn
Geript
Ruxxor
95% sure I'm going to be lynching into the first group.
I'm like 95% sure there's 3 scum in the first group btw
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HF, why haven't you posted on my case yet, it's fucking good
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On July 14 2017 06:49 Holyflare wrote:
Honestly I can see townies do everything you've listed though.
I can too too, I just find it much less likely to happen considering how consistently bad he's been.
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Funny thing is I don't mind policy lynching VA either. Koshi's been rather uninspiring as well.
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So Rux... what did you think of my case on Skynx?
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On July 14 2017 07:57 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 07:11 Holyflare wrote:
VA is definitely the best vote right now. He opens with mafia meta as a "trick" for reactions but the only person he would catch is rayn with that who was already vaguely town read. He also got a bad reaction from baiting ruxxar but didn't vote him. He also pre-emptively stated it was a bait before being scum read which we all know he doesn't usually give a shit about.
In fact VA is uncharacteristically not on any outlying wagon. More concerned with how he looks than anything. Maybe it's just my limited experience with VA, but maybe he just doesn't know how to interact in a conversation with people? I know it sounds fucking stupid, but maybe he's just having an awkward time trying to fit in.
LOL
No
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On July 13 2017 23:05 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 22:56 VayneAuthority wrote:
Also Skynx has started this game wildly different, he was really passive last game day 1 mostly being receptive to conversation and putting out comments. This game he went immediately full attack mode and super aggressive. That is interesting. I agree that is interesting. But I think skynx is misguided. I'm pretty confident Rayn is town.
On July 14 2017 04:01 ruXxar wrote:
TW is right, I also like your tone skynx.
You have an analytical, critical yet patient and non-derogatory demeanor about you.
I enjoy reading your posts and talking to you.
On July 14 2017 08:14 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 07:54 geript wrote:
So Rux... what did you think of my case on Skynx? 1. Skynx case on Rayn is flawed and based on half truths. Basically it's a misguided failure. Whether that is intentional or not is another point.
What in the actual fuck Rux?
Is he misguided? Is he analytical? Is he based on half truths? Like WTF
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How can you be analytical and have it based on half truths? Like those are basically complete opposites.
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I'm not seeing a good way to meta read Ruxx. Part of it is low number of games; part if it is I'm only seeing 2 scum games one of which he subbed in 125+ pages into it. Even his town games are all the fuck over the place. Am not happy.
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Analysis is like showing your work on a math problem
Analytical is like making sure you did do something dumb like dividing by 0.
DNU
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Thread so dead... where is everyone? Where's Damdred?
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On July 14 2017 14:37 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 08:14 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 07:54 geript wrote:
So Rux... what did you think of my case on Skynx? 1. Skynx case on Rayn is flawed and based on half truths. Basically it's a misguided failure. Whether that is intentional or not is another point. It fails to capture the minute details that you would have acquired by being here during the conversation and be engaged in the details of the postings. In fact I thought Rayn made some really good points about you geript, which made you look bad and Rayn really good. Especially the point about "for better reasons" and where Rayn says you don't actually go on to reveal these "better reasons". Maybe I'm just biased, but to me clearly Rayn looked better from that. I basically am getting deja vu of how btdt played last game, except skynx has more polish in the way he presents things. Maybe I'm repeating the same mistake I did from last game by calling it bad/uninformed town, but skynx is not my #1 lynch today. i think rux has gotta be town
Why?
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On July 14 2017 14:54 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 14:50 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 14:37 Tumblewood wrote:On July 14 2017 08:14 ruXxar wrote:On July 14 2017 07:54 geript wrote:
So Rux... what did you think of my case on Skynx? 1. Skynx case on Rayn is flawed and based on half truths. Basically it's a misguided failure. Whether that is intentional or not is another point. It fails to capture the minute details that you would have acquired by being here during the conversation and be engaged in the details of the postings. In fact I thought Rayn made some really good points about you geript, which made you look bad and Rayn really good. Especially the point about "for better reasons" and where Rayn says you don't actually go on to reveal these "better reasons". Maybe I'm just biased, but to me clearly Rayn looked better from that. I basically am getting deja vu of how btdt played last game, except skynx has more polish in the way he presents things. Maybe I'm repeating the same mistake I did from last game by calling it bad/uninformed town, but skynx is not my #1 lynch today. i think rux has gotta be town Why? well firstly i don't think scum!rux is attacking skynx's case on someone else because of minute details. that is a very not mafia reason and since i made that post i caught up fully and i am 100% sure on this
So where and why did Rux attack Skynx's case?
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I don't think it was any of those. It was the game where Marv, DP, +3. I think it was like chez, some newbie, +1. I just remember thinking that like 2 people were confirmed mafia and finding super obvious ways to get themselves killed. It was a big game but I can't remember who hosted it for sure; I think Hapa cohosted or helped though.
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I don't recall, but when I read his filter he was all over the fucking place. Like he's so fucking insane without any specific thing.
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