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On July 15 2017 19:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 19:03 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 19:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here is some good for thought for you ruxxar.
I dont scumslip. No one does, until they do. Right. And i dont. Ive never seen an actual scumslip except from onegu, and even then people managed to fail lynching him... even after his scumbuddy pointed it out.
So why were you not expecting to die tonight?
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On July 15 2017 19:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Obviously because i scumslipped duh
Can you give me a serious answer?
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On July 15 2017 19:13 emperorchampion wrote:
Rux who else is scum for you right now
Koshi is lock scum.
Rayn is lock town.
Tumble is lock town.
Everyone else are in a fleeting state of scum leans.
I feel like I have very few solid town reads so far, and it's bothering me.
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Emperor are you a female?
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I think I want to put emperor in my lock town pile.
I get a sense of genuine honest curiosity from you.
It doesn't feel forced or fake.
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On July 15 2017 21:49 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 21:41 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 19:13 emperorchampion wrote:
Rux who else is scum for you right now Koshi is lock scum. Rayn is lock town. Tumble is lock town. Everyone else are in a fleeting state of scum leans. I feel like I have very few solid town reads so far, and it's bothering me. what about damdy and geript?
Damdred is a hard read.
I feel like every time he says something it's very restrained.
Gives a sort of xata mafia vibe, but that is just superficial stuff.
I don't have anything solid on him.
Geript on the other hand, I kinda want to die regardless of his alignment.
I don't think skynx and geript are mafia together, and I regrettably have to admit that as much as I dislike geript and that he is a proven liar, I don't have any solid reason to call him lock scum.
I'll have to do some filtering of both of those to see if there's some long running agenda I might've missed.
that will have to wait though, I'm on the move-Ish right now.
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On July 15 2017 21:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 21:38 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 19:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Obviously because i scumslipped duh Can you give me a serious answer? No, you will, and did, only get a sarcastic one for very obvious reasons. Why do you even care if i am lock town?
So you're expecting to die?
Why so hesitant with giving scum reads.
I feel like I'm nitpicking, but it just seemed out of place.
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On July 15 2017 22:37 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 22:13 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 21:49 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 21:41 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 19:13 emperorchampion wrote:
Rux who else is scum for you right now Koshi is lock scum. Rayn is lock town. Tumble is lock town. Everyone else are in a fleeting state of scum leans. I feel like I have very few solid town reads so far, and it's bothering me. what about damdy and geript? Damdred is a hard read. I feel like every time he says something it's very restrained. Gives a sort of xata mafia vibe, but that is just superficial stuff. I don't have anything solid on him. Geript on the other hand, I kinda want to die regardless of his alignment. I don't think skynx and geript are mafia together, and I regrettably have to admit that as much as I dislike geript and that he is a proven liar, I don't have any solid reason to call him lock scum. I'll have to do some filtering of both of those to see if there's some long running agenda I might've missed. that will have to wait though, I'm on the move-Ish right now. So you don't believe the mason claim. Is there any reason why not?
Why should I believe it?
I don't see any reason to.
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On July 15 2017 22:53 emperorchampion wrote:
Also not 100% sold on rux's read on me. Said it was just for being honest and open, but I hope that I've done more than just be honest this game lol. Like there must be something else in there to town read me for.
Your dialogue is free flowing and unfiltered.
You're not guarding your thoughts or being careful in what you say.
I don't know how better to put it, but in my heart I strongly believe you are town.
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On July 15 2017 23:04 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 23:02 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 22:37 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 22:13 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 21:49 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 21:41 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 19:13 emperorchampion wrote:
Rux who else is scum for you right now Koshi is lock scum. Rayn is lock town. Tumble is lock town. Everyone else are in a fleeting state of scum leans. I feel like I have very few solid town reads so far, and it's bothering me. what about damdy and geript? Damdred is a hard read. I feel like every time he says something it's very restrained. Gives a sort of xata mafia vibe, but that is just superficial stuff. I don't have anything solid on him. Geript on the other hand, I kinda want to die regardless of his alignment. I don't think skynx and geript are mafia together, and I regrettably have to admit that as much as I dislike geript and that he is a proven liar, I don't have any solid reason to call him lock scum. I'll have to do some filtering of both of those to see if there's some long running agenda I might've missed. that will have to wait though, I'm on the move-Ish right now. So you don't believe the mason claim. Is there any reason why not? Why should I believe it? I don't see any reason to. Then do you see any reason for them to claim masons as town?
I like this question a lot.
Forced me to think real hard.
You get extra town credit for that.
To answer your question, no, I can't think of any good reasons besides them being really good friends that want to keep each other alive.
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Welcome vivax.
I'm happy to have you 
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On July 15 2017 23:21 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 23:09 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:06 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 22:57 emperorchampion wrote:
skynx: between rux and tumble who do you think is more likely to be mafia? They are both mafia. Any thoughts for third person? For my part, I buy tina's raging for now. Votes on VA are just so easy to justify. He just fucked up as town. So it's kinda pointless to analyse by logic behind votes. I'll post a more decent list later today when i wrap up my thoughts but rayn, HF, geript, damdy are no lynch category. Rels/sl is null as ever and tina is a soft town. ruxxar tw are my top two scumreads. You and Koshi are a mystery right now so I'll be reading you two for a while now.
I like your reasoning about the vote.
I like this post in general.
I think I was wrong about you tbh.
I'm moving you to town lean.
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Suddenly I feel like my reads are falling into place piece by piece.
It's a liberating feeling.
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On July 15 2017 23:22 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 23:20 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:04 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:02 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 22:37 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 22:13 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 21:49 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 21:41 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 19:13 emperorchampion wrote:
Rux who else is scum for you right now Koshi is lock scum. Rayn is lock town. Tumble is lock town. Everyone else are in a fleeting state of scum leans. I feel like I have very few solid town reads so far, and it's bothering me. what about damdy and geript? Damdred is a hard read. I feel like every time he says something it's very restrained. Gives a sort of xata mafia vibe, but that is just superficial stuff. I don't have anything solid on him. Geript on the other hand, I kinda want to die regardless of his alignment. I don't think skynx and geript are mafia together, and I regrettably have to admit that as much as I dislike geript and that he is a proven liar, I don't have any solid reason to call him lock scum. I'll have to do some filtering of both of those to see if there's some long running agenda I might've missed. that will have to wait though, I'm on the move-Ish right now. So you don't believe the mason claim. Is there any reason why not? Why should I believe it? I don't see any reason to. Then do you see any reason for them to claim masons as town? I like this question a lot. Forced me to think real hard. You get extra town credit for that. To answer your question, no, I can't think of any good reasons besides them being really good friends that want to keep each other alive. So are they more mafia because of it, or less? Cause it's like a pretty big thing that I don't think you mentioned at all. And you're individually scum reading both of them.
I have such a negative view on both of them that I can't bear myself to call them town for it, even if that is supposedly the objectively correct play.
Might just be my personal bias in wanting them to be scum, but for now it's all just a muddy mess surrounding them.
Like my intuition is telling me that they both look real shady, and then having to accept that they are town would just fly right in my face of reading the game.
I don't think my ego can handle it.
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And now with moving skynx to town, I have no conflicts holding me back from calling geript scum, although I don't want to go there just yet.
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On July 15 2017 23:35 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 23:34 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:22 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:20 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:04 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:02 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 22:37 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 22:13 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 21:49 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 21:41 ruXxar wrote:
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Koshi is lock scum.
Rayn is lock town.
Tumble is lock town.
Everyone else are in a fleeting state of scum leans.
I feel like I have very few solid town reads so far, and it's bothering me.
what about damdy and geript? Damdred is a hard read. I feel like every time he says something it's very restrained. Gives a sort of xata mafia vibe, but that is just superficial stuff. I don't have anything solid on him. Geript on the other hand, I kinda want to die regardless of his alignment. I don't think skynx and geript are mafia together, and I regrettably have to admit that as much as I dislike geript and that he is a proven liar, I don't have any solid reason to call him lock scum. I'll have to do some filtering of both of those to see if there's some long running agenda I might've missed. that will have to wait though, I'm on the move-Ish right now. So you don't believe the mason claim. Is there any reason why not? Why should I believe it? I don't see any reason to. Then do you see any reason for them to claim masons as town? I like this question a lot. Forced me to think real hard. You get extra town credit for that. To answer your question, no, I can't think of any good reasons besides them being really good friends that want to keep each other alive. So are they more mafia because of it, or less? Cause it's like a pretty big thing that I don't think you mentioned at all. And you're individually scum reading both of them. I have such a negative view on both of them that I can't bear myself to call them town for it, even if that is supposedly the objectively correct play. Might just be my personal bias in wanting them to be scum, but for now it's all just a muddy mess surrounding them. Like my intuition is telling me that they both look real shady, and then having to accept that they are town would just fly right in my face of reading the game. I don't think my ego can handle it. meh, I'm starting to think that this game isn't nearly as solved as I thought it was. Guess it's not surprising.
Please explain
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On July 15 2017 23:38 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 23:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:34 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:22 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:20 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 23:04 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 23:02 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 22:37 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 22:13 ruXxar wrote:
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Damdred is a hard read.
I feel like every time he says something it's very restrained.
Gives a sort of xata mafia vibe, but that is just superficial stuff.
I don't have anything solid on him.
Geript on the other hand, I kinda want to die regardless of his alignment.
I don't think skynx and geript are mafia together, and I regrettably have to admit that as much as I dislike geript and that he is a proven liar, I don't have any solid reason to call him lock scum.
I'll have to do some filtering of both of those to see if there's some long running agenda I might've missed.
that will have to wait though, I'm on the move-Ish right now. So you don't believe the mason claim. Is there any reason why not? Why should I believe it? I don't see any reason to. Then do you see any reason for them to claim masons as town? I like this question a lot. Forced me to think real hard. You get extra town credit for that. To answer your question, no, I can't think of any good reasons besides them being really good friends that want to keep each other alive. So are they more mafia because of it, or less? Cause it's like a pretty big thing that I don't think you mentioned at all. And you're individually scum reading both of them. I have such a negative view on both of them that I can't bear myself to call them town for it, even if that is supposedly the objectively correct play. Might just be my personal bias in wanting them to be scum, but for now it's all just a muddy mess surrounding them. Like my intuition is telling me that they both look real shady, and then having to accept that they are town would just fly right in my face of reading the game. I don't think my ego can handle it. meh, I'm starting to think that this game isn't nearly as solved as I thought it was. Guess it's not surprising. Please explain I just felt good on skynx / koshi as scum. Rels could be, still 50/50. Now not as much, guess there's a lot more places to look.
Why don't you feel good about your read anymore?
Was it something I said?
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Accepting that geript and damdred are town, here's my scum poe:
Koshi.
Holyflare.
Sicklucker.
Rels is ??
Vivax is ??
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On July 15 2017 23:44 emperorchampion wrote:
It's more just have to look more into you, and tumble. Maaybe rayn, but it's a pretty outside shot at this point.
Are there any other doubters on the mason claim?
So your read changed by the fact that you now think I am more scummy?
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HF is actually a really good mafia candidate.
He keeps shouting from the rooftops that every mother and his dog are mafia but doesn't do jack shit with his reads.
He just soft pushes people then backs off.
It's a waffling insecure HF, who's all bark, no bite.
That's not the HF I saw last game.
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