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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 15 2017 10:11 GMT
#898
(and again. It is a nice catch but it doesn't make Eversince more mafia in my opinion)

I don't know if Eversince is town trying to be neutral. Or mafia trying to be town but not getting further than neutral.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 15 2017 10:13 GMT
#899
I think she is town trying to help. But I don't know. There isn't enough content.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 15 2017 10:14 GMT
#900
Correction, I think there is still a legit chance she is town trying to help.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 15 2017 10:58 GMT
#908
tis true
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 15 2017 10:59 GMT
#909
ruxxar played as mafia twice and got endgamed twice on day 6.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 15 2017 12:16 GMT
#920
He is fine for the time being.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 15 2017 12:18 GMT
#921
I also think somebody replied to what you said.
It isn't easy to read 40 pages and be completely 100% in sync with the thread. I was pretty content with what he did and where he was. He got to keep it up now.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 15 2017 12:39 GMT
#928
ruxx I think is town. Eversince I just think is more of a gamble 50/50.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 15 2017 12:49 GMT
#931
On June 15 2017 03:44 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 03:35 darthfoley wrote:
On June 15 2017 03:27 Xatalos wrote:
On June 15 2017 03:15 darthfoley wrote:
On June 15 2017 03:01 Xatalos wrote:
DF: I wasn't the only one who missed Skynx's main point initially. After he explained further, I actually agreed that it looked worse for ruxxar than disfo. So what's the issue?

And I wouldn't really call my filter "filler".


Well I would, which is why I did. My point is that mafia are often looking to misconstrue people's posts and throwing around suspicion.

@ Vivax. It's not that he didn't have reads, it's that he seemed to be ignoring the major event in the thread at the time. It's fine to be not super committed to early D1 reads, but I felt like the "I have no idea what to make of this" was a cop out to people's legit questions about it.


Well, it's just an inaccurate description... Maybe I have some not-so-important posts, but certainly not only those..

Besides, I just don't see what's bad about the Skynx events. Skynx's points on disfo caught my attention more than his underlying point to bring attention to ruxxar, that's all. He was later forced to elaborate and only then did it become clear that ruxxar was where his main focus was (I guess it was possible to notice by reading his original post more carefully, but I digress).


I'm more interested in hearing what you make of the game and its players at this point, now that you've caught up.


Fair enough. At this point I mainly dislike ruxxar and rayn - mixed on Koshi. I've already talked about rayn/Koshi so here's some points about ruxxar:

1) Like Skynx pointed out very early on, ruxxar called disfo's opening post a strong post... when it was really null at best. ruxxar later tried to explain it away by saying that it was just a tone read, unrelated to the content, but really? All I got from the tone of disfo's opening post was non-committing/vague, not decisive/relaxed/insightful or things a townie tone should be. Maybe the format wasn't overly polished, but so what? And is it a strong post if it's just bad/unpolished? Felt to me like ruxxar was staying stuff he didn't actually mean and then tried to somehow salvage the situation.

2) This post...

Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 22:28 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 18:21 sicklucker wrote:
alright boys im hard claiming cop with a red check on eversince.


This makes it real simple.
Lynch eversince.
If green, lynch sicklucker.

Guaranteed 1 scum down.


...is probably the least town-motivated post I saw so far. Not only is that "plan" bad, but it has a thought process of happily lynching people with little to no reason. Again, not aligning comfortably with a town mindset of making the most out of our lynches, but rather just using them up on someone (like scum would).

3)

Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.

##vote koshi


Really....? Now that Koshi has a huge wagon he just sheeps it with no reason whatsoever?


- - -


All in all, I'll be switching my vote to ruxxar.

1) is a mistake/thought a townie can make/have. I don't see the mafia motivation anyway.
2) why would a guy that has survived 12 lynches in a row make that comment? I also don't know why a guy who plays tryhard town would make that comment. But I think town makes more often yolo comments than mafia.
3) Again. Yolo town or calculated mafia? I think town.

If he is mafia, he hasn't shown any mafia agenda. Just lacklusterness. Maybe he is a bit demotivated he rolled mafia and is now swinging it. That is possible. But I can make such a story from town perspective as well. Maybe he is blue and trying to stay in the shadows? Who knows?

And I think his posting is open, I don't see an agenda. So I go with town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 15 2017 13:06 GMT
#937
Top town disfo. Not too many think that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 15 2017 13:21 GMT
#943
On June 15 2017 22:10 darthfoley wrote:
Also to build off what Skynx/disfo said, why is everyone letting Palmar actively not play the game without putting any pressure on him?

I know he lives in Iceland. You go put a gun to his head.
Probably the only way you can force him. Or at least the only way people haven't tried yet.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 15 2017 13:46 GMT
#947
I am fine sitting on Xatalos then.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 15 2017 13:49 GMT
#948
On June 15 2017 21:49 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 03:44 Xatalos wrote:
On June 15 2017 03:35 darthfoley wrote:
On June 15 2017 03:27 Xatalos wrote:
On June 15 2017 03:15 darthfoley wrote:
On June 15 2017 03:01 Xatalos wrote:
DF: I wasn't the only one who missed Skynx's main point initially. After he explained further, I actually agreed that it looked worse for ruxxar than disfo. So what's the issue?

And I wouldn't really call my filter "filler".


Well I would, which is why I did. My point is that mafia are often looking to misconstrue people's posts and throwing around suspicion.

@ Vivax. It's not that he didn't have reads, it's that he seemed to be ignoring the major event in the thread at the time. It's fine to be not super committed to early D1 reads, but I felt like the "I have no idea what to make of this" was a cop out to people's legit questions about it.


Well, it's just an inaccurate description... Maybe I have some not-so-important posts, but certainly not only those..

Besides, I just don't see what's bad about the Skynx events. Skynx's points on disfo caught my attention more than his underlying point to bring attention to ruxxar, that's all. He was later forced to elaborate and only then did it become clear that ruxxar was where his main focus was (I guess it was possible to notice by reading his original post more carefully, but I digress).


I'm more interested in hearing what you make of the game and its players at this point, now that you've caught up.


Fair enough. At this point I mainly dislike ruxxar and rayn - mixed on Koshi. I've already talked about rayn/Koshi so here's some points about ruxxar:

1) Like Skynx pointed out very early on, ruxxar called disfo's opening post a strong post... when it was really null at best. ruxxar later tried to explain it away by saying that it was just a tone read, unrelated to the content, but really? All I got from the tone of disfo's opening post was non-committing/vague, not decisive/relaxed/insightful or things a townie tone should be. Maybe the format wasn't overly polished, but so what? And is it a strong post if it's just bad/unpolished? Felt to me like ruxxar was staying stuff he didn't actually mean and then tried to somehow salvage the situation.

2) This post...

On June 14 2017 22:28 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 18:21 sicklucker wrote:
alright boys im hard claiming cop with a red check on eversince.


This makes it real simple.
Lynch eversince.
If green, lynch sicklucker.

Guaranteed 1 scum down.


...is probably the least town-motivated post I saw so far. Not only is that "plan" bad, but it has a thought process of happily lynching people with little to no reason. Again, not aligning comfortably with a town mindset of making the most out of our lynches, but rather just using them up on someone (like scum would).

3)

On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.

##vote koshi


Really....? Now that Koshi has a huge wagon he just sheeps it with no reason whatsoever?


- - -


All in all, I'll be switching my vote to ruxxar.

1) is a mistake/thought a townie can make/have. I don't see the mafia motivation anyway.
2) why would a guy that has survived 12 lynches in a row make that comment? I also don't know why a guy who plays tryhard town would make that comment. But I think town makes more often yolo comments than mafia.
3) Again. Yolo town or calculated mafia? I think town.

If he is mafia, he hasn't shown any mafia agenda. Just lacklusterness. Maybe he is a bit demotivated he rolled mafia and is now swinging it. That is possible. But I can make such a story from town perspective as well. Maybe he is blue and trying to stay in the shadows? Who knows?

And I think his posting is open, I don't see an agenda. So I go with town.

Dnu why. But I thought I was replying to Vivax here.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 15 2017 14:04 GMT
#951
On June 15 2017 22:53 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 22:45 darthfoley wrote:
On June 15 2017 22:40 Skynx wrote:
This town needs some structured plan as we head into the lynch.

Now I dunno how we can convince Palmar to play since he won't submit to few votes.
I will read more on Xata and Ruxxar and see what comes up. There could be a mafia there.
Koshi is contributing, altho not perfectly in supertown scumhunting Koshi mode, his mafia game is out there after D2 tho so defo not lynching today.
I also don't think rayn is mafia from that one Koshi defence, I will see when he gets back into the thread.

Meanwhile I have kind of town circle in: HF, Vivax, disfo, Damdy, Rels, DF, Eversince

btdt has 1 lazy "I'm here" post.
It'd be nice if VA actually played.
TW is in and out, not feel like he's playing either.
Fefe and Grack i didn't really like and will go back and read.
I don't like annul from first impressions.

Quickdraws shoot AMG/marv or if u feel adventurous sl pls.


This is pretty much where I am, but i'm wary of Vivax because he town read btdt and has thrown shade at me even though we have had similar reads and arguments for the whole game.

I would also suggest we don't lynch btdt today. I think he's played a town game but i'm probably biased because we've had lots of similar reads

I mean there is gona be disagreements but for now if that 8-10 people work together mafia is gona have a tough time no matter what.
So for the sake of argument, Vivax and you having same reads, you're prolly thinking in same pattern and both town

I'm not a fan of killing afk/one posters D1, which i kinda supported when i first started playing. Mainly because if left alive, they feel the pressure and step up D2, either producing well content and joining town or slipping and getting lynched. Meanwhile D1 we actually lynch someone who has gave us some sort of information.

All things considered, there is gotta be one mafia in annul/grack/fefe/ruxxar/xata. I'm reading Xata now.

Very close to my list. Good stuff.
As long as we ignore HF this game we might solve it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 15 2017 14:14 GMT
#953
Only problem with Rels his post is that he thinks Ruxxar is mafia and bases a lot of reads on that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 15 2017 14:54 GMT
#958
On June 15 2017 23:51 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 23:46 Holyflare wrote:
I honestly have no idea how I'm town read by 90% of the game tbfh.

Calling you town is a stretch I'll admit but you're here and doing work, in your own way. All the conversation you spark up might lead to something maybe who knows.

Don't encourage him.He only leads to doom and despair.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 15 2017 17:10 GMT
#1002
Is this some sick joke? I am still on 5.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 15 2017 17:14 GMT
#1004
On June 16 2017 01:05 ruXxar wrote:
Tumbleweed just climbed up on my scum list.
Things are getting clearer now.

Tumblewood is not mafia because he wrote a weird townlist.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 15 2017 17:15 GMT
#1007
On June 16 2017 01:17 annul wrote:
like isnt it interesting that 2/3 of the people who think i am red are the ones i directly called out before they post their red reads onto me

No it really really isn't.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 15 2017 17:17 GMT
#1010
On June 16 2017 02:04 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 04:08 Koshi wrote:
I am obvious town and you can't fucking read me HF. How shit are you then? Just because I didn't open like I used to and now you are fucking reading everything as biased as fuck in some wicked way to proof you can read somebody after 1 sentence while you are so fucking blind it is really hilarious tbh.

This is the thing why I don't buy Koshi's "rage" by the way.

Like, when you start a big sentence, people will remember the first and the last thing you said and not the whole rest. The structure used here is "I am obvious town", then blabla reasons "just because", followed up by "you're so fucking blind it's hilarious".

Koshi shouldn't put emphasis on WHAT he is. He will always claim town, as anyone would, regardless of actual alignment. But instead, he yells "I AM TOWN", puts the reasoning (which is the IMPORTANT part) right between two seemingly emotional statements

I have caught Koshi already as scum D1 and I'm fairly confident here.

When I skimmed this morning he looked better but I just skimmed. so, yeah. my vote is good where it's at.

lol
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