EPT[N] TL Mafia LXXV - Page 5
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Rels Btdt Eversince sicklucker Disformation Skynx Feel free to add ppl if you wish. Also should prolly read koshi / hf filters. There is a reason why they died. | ||
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Thank god this shit eases up tomorrow. I will actually have time. | ||
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Disformation is probably town after all. I find it hard to believe Xatalos claim a read check on his teammate. Although it's not impossible i find it very very unlikely. That means if there was mafia on Xatalos wagon D1 it's going to be Skynx since there is basically no way darthfoley is mafia. However in the unlike scenario that disformation is mafia i strongly believe ruxxar is mafia too. He was like super certain disformation is not mafia with Xatalos and assuming mafia knew about Xatalos' plan to claim (which is also likely) ruxxar's disformation town case doesn't look that good. Basically it was based on the fact that disformation voted Xatalos at a time "mafia wouldn't vote for him" which is certainly false. darthfoley you probably know what i am talking about here since imo you bussed Calix in that one game in a similar manner, you know like vote at the time that still gives you options to back off if needed but you "look good" in case you do have to bus in the end (or your teammate doesn't get lynched anyways). I need to check a couple of things regarding this later, since other than that ruxxar looks quite townie imo. Fuck it actually disformation doesn't even have to be mafia if ruxxar is... Anyways; It is certainly possible that Xatalos wagon doesn't have mafia there at all. I know i am not mafia and Damdred was not mafia. It is certainly possible AMG/marvellosity slots have 1-2 there. Liek Palmar said at some point there is a possiblity marv would quit the game if rolling scum, he has done it before. Unfortunately we have no way of knowing if they asked to be replaced or just got replaced because they were completely MIA. I have yet to check into Chezitwo / Blazinghand filters since i thought it is fair to give them a couple of irl days to catch up on the game. I have actually surprisingly good track record in reading Blazinghand so that should not be a problem even later on. I don't know who Chezitwo is, he seems like a level headed guy though from first glance. My point was though, even if they were both mafia (Chez/BH) there is still scum on annul wagon, and it is quite clear mafia voted to save Xatalos. There is still Palmar/Vivax/btdt/Tumblewood that voted off wagons aswell. I would say mostly, MOSTLY 1 mafia in those four people and i already think Vivax and Palmar are town. I think VA makes an interesting case on FF. I am gonna revisit my read on him since i believe that case makes a lot of sense. My read on FF was purely based on his opening on darthfoley and how he went with it. I honestly never really cared about to revisit him after that since i didn't see anything that would raise my eyebrows. And I know i can't read 20 people, or like focus on having super good reads on all of the people in the game (like in mini-games you can do that, but that's not at least how i play in big games). But yeah, VA's case makes me wanna revisit FF. I have something to say about btdt most likely, i will check a couple of things when i am off work tonight to confirm i am not talking out of my ass (i skimmed through what i haven't read yet). The rest of annul D1 voters are sicklucker/Rels/Grackaroni/Eversince. I believe we find at least 2 mafia here. I don't think lynching annul over Xatalos would have been that "easy" - from what i gathered from D1 end - in case mafia wouldn't place votes there. I am interested in digging more into why Palamr and Vivax thought sicklucker is mafia, because i don't think that's not at all out of question. Well basically everyone of those 4 could be mafia. Knowing both annul's and Xatalos' alignments this post looks super fishy: On June 16 2017 07:23 Rels wrote: Don't see a town motivation on annul's vote on Xata then begging Xata to vote SL. EITHER he prefers to lynch SL, then voting SL at that point puts him above him with 1 hour to see what happens OR he prefers Xata, but why the begging to Xata so he votes SL then Doesn't make any sense. Scum. Very likely There is basically "nothing wrong" with it, it is just perfect "case" to make as mafia as you hit two birds at once. You protect your teammate AND you have a reasonable reason to vote for the other wagon. Here is another post: On June 17 2017 08:08 Rels wrote: wow that makes Eversince town. My big quote was about annul. So to those thinking ES was faking entering the thread (and Ithought that too befor ethat post), is she faked that she wouldn't mess up the names there. That means the entering the thread was innocent at the very least. Look at what this post says. "Eversince is town because people are calling her mafia for a reason that does not make her mafia". Now while the second bolded part is true, the green part doesn't make any sense. The second bolded part makes Eversince's entering the thread makes it not alignment indigative, yet Rels jumps to a conclusion that it makes her town for no real reason. This is what i call a BS read. I'll go through the rest of the filters and what i reminded myself to check after work. I am back ~3 hrs before the deadline to talk if anyone wants to talk. | ||
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On June 19 2017 18:39 beentheredonethat wrote: So voting wise, Rels, Grack, Eversince, Skynx, darthfoley, (disformation), VA, Tumblewood, raynpelikoneet, marv replacement, AMG replacement so four in eleven Seems like you've gotten "a lot" of parsing done in this game so far.... What's the point of calling 11/17 alive possible mafia? | ||
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I am also quite interested in this from Eversince someone talked about earlier: Everything is here. The connections, the soft defenses, the meaningless casting of doubt, the organization between them interlocks and really is apparent at the lynch. There is only 1 wildcard if there is 5 mafia. What are the connections and other stuff you talk about you see? | ||
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On June 19 2017 23:34 Vivax wrote: Hope that he posts more and adresses my old issue with his read on Palmar that he hasn't picked up on yet. I have absolutely no idea what you mean here. The post where i said maybe Palmar is right or maybe Palmar is mafia? Well i don't think his case on sicklucker is particularly good because he doesn't really even have a case afaik. That was, and apparently still is his only real read (which isn't even a real read). So basically, Palmar's gut reads are usually good if he is town - D1 is usually his best day. However when Palmar is mafia he also loves to do all kinds of crap, like some bs science reads of how many words or letters people post in their posts, or kill anti-town players rather than mafia (or make cases liek that). Does this look like a good case to you? On June 15 2017 07:19 Palmar wrote: I could possibly kill sicklucker. The upside is large as nothing he has said looks townie. The "I'm just trying to trigger ppls lulz" post is kinda bad actually. The downside is small as he's anti-town no matter his alignment late game because he's just not very good at this game. Does sicklucker usually say anything townie, especially on D1? Basically Palmar's cases later sentences even invalidate the only thing that in his case could make sicklucker mafia - "nothing he has said looks townie". I am not just sure if it makes him mafia, or if he is right or sees something he doesn't bother to write (see for example the read on you in liquid qualifier we played in). And i cant be arsed to bother even trying to draw that out from him. I don't want the same shit. I am just gonna wait a couple of days and if he doesn't do anything then just lynch him. Hopefully he'd rather post what he actually sees in case he is town. | ||
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On June 20 2017 06:14 sicklucker wrote: infor tho. grack played a really really shitty town game in the last game he played. So because of this I dont think hes more likely to be mafia then someone like say rels who made good logic for his vote. Lower standards you know Which game are you talking about? | ||
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On June 20 2017 07:39 Rels wrote: rayn / ruxxar / SL / Chezitwo / Skynx ? That could make some sense Let's hear the cases. I am already laughing but let's still hear it. | ||
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On June 20 2017 07:55 Rels wrote: rayn, why is it super unlikely that Xata forged a check on his partner ? Because it's fucking retarded as the claim is supposed to either draw out another cop claim or kill the "red check" before you die. Not to make sure mafia gets 100% lynched whatever the town decides.... | ||
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On June 20 2017 08:05 Rels wrote: 'cause I don't like you thinking that when I don't. It's not logical to think that it makes disfo super likely town on its own. So I thought maybe there was nothing to it I didn't see. But there is not. Of course it does. If you have followed the thread sentiment at all you would know that the people in this game who needed town credit less than disformation are/were exactly darthfoley. If what you suggested would be true there is no reason to make the "check" on disformation because literally anyone else who is mafia is a better target for that WIFOM than disformation is. Basically noone in the game thought he is mafia other than me. Why does disformation need the town credit (which would be the reason to claim a check on a scumbuddy) over anyone else in the mafia team? | ||
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