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beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 16 2017 09:45 GMT
#1785
On June 16 2017 17:32 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 08:55 disformation wrote:
wait wait wait...
dodnt someone say he would expect more from annul given his reputation?
how can that be true if annul is the hmguy who gets day1 lynched akl the time?

fooooouuuuuuunnnnnnd it:
added some bold.
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 02:14 Xatalos wrote:
I can't be online much until EOD today.. I think I'll be online like 1-2 hours before the deadline and then just have to sleep. Anyways, here are my main reads so far (some people have posted nothing / barely anything so they've been basically ignored in my memory, who knows, would be dice rolling on them).

1) ruxxar: Has a decent amount of posts, but mostly they've been red flags or questionable at best. No spirit of scumhunting so far, just random comments with unbelievable reasoning (like "strong first post!" -> "I didn't like the content, it was just townily unpolished" - ask yourself, does this sound like an excuse thought after the fact of posting a random comment or a genuine thought process? how is it "strong" if it's townily bad?, very, very meh).

2) rayn: Can still easily be scum. He's a very sneaky scum, and I'm still quite confused by his Koshi commentary. Hope he'll explain that soon(TM).

3) annul: I'd have expected so much more after hearing about his reputation (although it seems to be years ago). There's just nothing to write home about in his filter. Nothing extremely scummy, but just no scumhunting, pushing the thread forward or anything. More like reluctant sideline commentary on some things he picked to comment about, things he could easily do as scum and should've done more than that as town.

4) Koshi: Not really sold on him being our best lynch. There was just nothing that I saw screamed "lynch now!", only slightly concerning points in a large amount of activity. TBH some of the discussions on Koshi have went over my head too as I've been reading the game very lacklusterly from my phone etc. In any case, when someone referenced the Koshi case to me earlier it didn't really cause me to want to vote for him.

4) FF: I'd say town. I just had a pleasant feeling reading his posts since the start, felt like he posted what he actually wanted to say and it made sense.

5) HF: Probably town too. Even if he exaggerates a bit in his cases, he's pushing the game forward and doing stuff all the time. Apparently it's also been his intention to generate discussion with stronger than usual pushes. Just feels more like a town game plan to hyper push and focus the attention on himself and his surroundings. As scum there would be easier targets for that than Koshi or rayn or Vivax etc. too, if the intention was to get people mislynched.

6) Vivax: I think what I liked about him earlier was his meta read on me. It felt honest rather than trying to just curry my favor or alternatively spread suspicion on me. Well, I may be biased Vivax, my main problem with you when I read you sometime today was this post:

On June 15 2017 06:26 Vivax wrote:
On June 15 2017 06:24 Holyflare wrote:
Dunno why everyone hates ever, she's right that it's fucking awful koshi town reads me for a shit fight that in his opinion doesn't make sense. That's my scum meta 101.


Yeah why would you hate someone who parrots your misreps of rayn like gospel?


...because, even if you called him out on misrepresenting things, that's one of the more blatant misrepresentations in the game in itself. Ever did not in fact ever "parrot" HF. He just referenced the case on rayn when asked, even though he clearly said he disagreed with it. That's far from parroting, it's the opposite.

That's still bothering me. Not sure if it means scum or town Vivax yet though, I think it's not possible to come from either.

7) Eversince: unrelated to that, he is somewhat lackluster. Not fair to say he's "parroting" or "not having original thoughts" though. Clearly that's false. There are original thoughts in his filter, there's just so little of any content there. Conclusion: ???

Rest: no strong opinions one way or another. This might change if I had time to read their filters, but now I'll have to go for some time.

So yeah, ruxxar/annul seem like our best bets today overall.


good finding. Feels super forced.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 16 2017 09:47 GMT
#1786
On June 16 2017 17:59 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 17:50 Holyflare wrote:
Sl/xata/eversince/marvslut/xxxxxxx

btdt has a good shot. He is quite angry. I think the mafia team is falling apart.

I think you're trying to tilt me as I did in the newbie game but I won't
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 16 2017 09:54 GMT
#1789
On June 16 2017 18:44 Holyflare wrote:
Just shoot him then.

I totally would if I could. I have no KP, though. I super hope we have town KP and someone can shoot into Xata/Koshi.

A Xata shot is way more valuable than a Koshi shot but a Koshi shot would make me feel better on a personal level. I'm super annoyed by this playstyle.

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 16 2017 09:54 GMT
#1790
On June 16 2017 18:51 Holyflare wrote:
What do you think of tw this game in comparison btdt?

Lemme look

Comparison to Generic II?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 16 2017 09:55 GMT
#1791
On June 16 2017 18:50 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 18:47 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 16 2017 17:59 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2017 17:50 Holyflare wrote:
Sl/xata/eversince/marvslut/xxxxxxx

btdt has a good shot. He is quite angry. I think the mafia team is falling apart.

I think you're trying to tilt me as I did in the newbie game but I won't

hahahaha sure buddy. keep it up and people might believe you are genuine.

Put some work in and read the newbie game and gtfo
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 16 2017 10:11 GMT
#1796
On June 16 2017 00:02 Tumblewood wrote:
i won't claim to have actually considered every player, but i'm thinking:
rels, grack, vivax, annul, disfo, koshi, ruxxar, btdt (in no particular order)
are probably town and definitely should not be lynched d1
preferably we lynch rayn or one of the afks

this is like his only scumread. He doesn't talk about other people, the only thing he sticks with is where Koshi calls him out for a setup-related slip.

In Generic II, scum!Tumblewood commented on 10000 players D1 without actually committing: fuba, lightningstrike, grack, hf, Palmar, Vivax, prison break. He scumread 3 people D1.

Completely different D1 to this D1. Only thing they have in common is a lackluster read post:

On June 16 2017 00:02 Tumblewood wrote:
i won't claim to have actually considered every player, but i'm thinking:
rels, grack, vivax, annul, disfo, koshi, ruxxar, btdt (in no particular order)
are probably town and definitely should not be lynched d1
preferably we lynch rayn or one of the afks


On May 11 2017 08:44 Tumblewood wrote:
okay, I might as well get all my reads out at once:
grack is my rock for now. and ls, but I always read him town. (don't get confused, he still is town. I'm always right.)
for now I'm gonna just ignore Palmar and Hf, because Palmar is obstinate and not crusading yet Hf is kinda just yelling and picking fights. plus one of them or rayn will probably die n1
Damdred is a little good in my book
prison break seems like most players I see from other sites. he seems to at least believe what he's saying
skynx has disappointed me so far. he reminds me of myself which is usually a bad sign
fuba had one post I thought sucked but other than that I've been ignoring him
rayn is town I think? I like rayn, he's doin good stuff
anyone else I just forgot was playing


However the Generic (scum) post is way better explained, not so carefree.

I think this game's TW can very well be scum. His filter is lackluster and super disinterested, given that we just lynched a townie, it can very well be scum being happy with town being on two town-wagons. Hint: shooting Xata would clear that theory up, instantly :x
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 16 2017 10:14 GMT
#1798
On June 16 2017 19:05 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 18:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 16 2017 18:50 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2017 18:47 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 16 2017 17:59 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2017 17:50 Holyflare wrote:
Sl/xata/eversince/marvslut/xxxxxxx

btdt has a good shot. He is quite angry. I think the mafia team is falling apart.

I think you're trying to tilt me as I did in the newbie game but I won't

hahahaha sure buddy. keep it up and people might believe you are genuine.

Put some work in and read the newbie game and gtfo

Good good. There is a small chance people will believe you.
Don't try to convince me though. That wont work anymore.

I like how you throw shit on me without hesitation.

On June 16 2017 16:21 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 11:47 darthfoley wrote:
You'd think Vivax, who spent all day bitching about how we didn't take his case in Eversince seriously enough, would actually participate in a legit wagon. Or vote the counter wagon to what's ES voted.

Also really don't like HF being the last vote on Xata. Placed perfectly to not kill him while also not hammering the flipped Town. Couple that with the fact that he spent way too much time "trying to convince us to vote SL" when it was clearly coming down to annul vs. Xata.

Eversince's vote is also complete garbage considering she cited HF as the only person to give her the lowdown of what was going on in the thread... then hammered the guy HF was white knighting (or defending if you want to be PC) without a care in the world. Vigi please blow Xata's brains out, but if you're feeling frisky, shoot ever since.

I need to really study how the last hour went down when I'm rested tomorrow

You are really an incredible player. :D
Now I don't think both Vivax and HF are mafia like Ruxx is claiming. But one might be. But maybe not.

While you drop knowledge bombs like this one.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 16 2017 10:36 GMT
#1821
On June 16 2017 19:21 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 19:14 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:05 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2017 18:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 16 2017 18:50 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2017 18:47 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 16 2017 17:59 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2017 17:50 Holyflare wrote:
Sl/xata/eversince/marvslut/xxxxxxx

btdt has a good shot. He is quite angry. I think the mafia team is falling apart.

I think you're trying to tilt me as I did in the newbie game but I won't

hahahaha sure buddy. keep it up and people might believe you are genuine.

Put some work in and read the newbie game and gtfo

Good good. There is a small chance people will believe you.
Don't try to convince me though. That wont work anymore.

I like how you throw shit on me without hesitation.

On June 16 2017 16:21 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2017 11:47 darthfoley wrote:
You'd think Vivax, who spent all day bitching about how we didn't take his case in Eversince seriously enough, would actually participate in a legit wagon. Or vote the counter wagon to what's ES voted.

Also really don't like HF being the last vote on Xata. Placed perfectly to not kill him while also not hammering the flipped Town. Couple that with the fact that he spent way too much time "trying to convince us to vote SL" when it was clearly coming down to annul vs. Xata.

Eversince's vote is also complete garbage considering she cited HF as the only person to give her the lowdown of what was going on in the thread... then hammered the guy HF was white knighting (or defending if you want to be PC) without a care in the world. Vigi please blow Xata's brains out, but if you're feeling frisky, shoot ever since.

I need to really study how the last hour went down when I'm rested tomorrow

You are really an incredible player. :D
Now I don't think both Vivax and HF are mafia like Ruxx is claiming. But one might be. But maybe not.

While you drop knowledge bombs like this one.

Hey hey. I am calling you mafia.
If I had any believe you could be town I would be calling you trash and then you could argue I throw shit on you without hesitation.

Calling me mafia is quite a good start; can you now start stating actual reasons and try to convince people that I am scum?

I mean you can also continue to just fling shit on random people and say how super good you are
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 16 2017 10:37 GMT
#1822
On June 16 2017 19:26 Koshi wrote:
But yeah those people are potentially all town.

Another quality statement.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 16 2017 10:40 GMT
#1824
hf you asked me to compare tw to generic tw which I did. what do you draw from this now?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 16 2017 10:56 GMT
#1839
On June 16 2017 19:45 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 19:40 beentheredonethat wrote:
hf you asked me to compare tw to generic tw which I did. what do you draw from this now?


I meant newbie :D

Let me ask a host if it's okay to do that since Newbie is ongoing.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 16 2017 10:57 GMT
#1840
On June 16 2017 19:54 Koshi wrote:
annoy btdt. The guy is 100% mafia.

what the fuck is wrong with you
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 16 2017 11:13 GMT
#1851
On June 16 2017 20:03 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 19:57 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 16 2017 19:54 Koshi wrote:
annoy btdt. The guy is 100% mafia.

what the fuck is wrong with you

cry cry whine whine

piss off dumbfuck
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 16 2017 11:22 GMT
#1857
I don't have a solid TW read. He got like what, 10 posts in total? All I can say and have said is

1. his current play is super different from Generic II where he was scum
2. his current play can very well be scum nevertheless

Like right now, I don't have solid reasons to scum or townread him. There's just nothing to work with. Worth a D2 wagon if that gets him to participate.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 16 2017 11:42 GMT
#1874
On June 16 2017 20:25 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 20:22 beentheredonethat wrote:
I don't have a solid TW read. He got like what, 10 posts in total? All I can say and have said is

1. his current play is super different from Generic II where he was scum
2. his current play can very well be scum nevertheless

Like right now, I don't have solid reasons to scum or townread him. There's just nothing to work with. Worth a D2 wagon if that gets him to participate.


And Eversince, and ruxxar, and DF?

Do you think this game is all about figuring out TW and TW only?

And why isn't darthfoley blaming you for wasting your vote after you

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 15:09 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 16 2017 15:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why it is a good thing Xatalos was 2nd wagon? Alot depends on his alignment votewise. But if you think he is scum isnt it a BAD thing he was a second wagon and not 1st????

I cancelled some plans today so i can focus better on catching up after work. I insta-fell asleep yesterday when i got home.


This is why the first bad thing was that annul was lynched over Xata.
I think Koshi worked his way up slowly but he didn't make it out of scum range.
Nevertheless he wasn't second wagon.
Xata was a good second wagon. Because Xata is also among my scumreads. I brought up some points early and I think darthfoley cased him, too, and I agreed with him.

So yes, Xata is a good second wagon.


posted this?

What's your read on darthfoley?
What's your read on ruxxar?

darthfoley is town, we super agree(d?) on xata. Read my filter before you ask me shit.
I liked Koshi's "ruxxar is probably lynchbait" post but since Koshi is acting like a fucking asshole I don't want to acknowledge that point

Ruxxar has weird opinions and if he is scum, he's super weird. Doesn't give flying fucks about being pressured and I'd rate that as townish.


"Do you think this game is all about figuring out TW and TW only?" What the fuck how do you even come to that conclusion? Have you actually read more of me than just my last 3 posts? Like why are you ignoring what I said about xata, about Koshi, about df?

I didn't look into Eversince and while I have realized HF has cased her, I didn't look into that case so how the fuck am I supposed to drop a read here

And how should I know why darfthfoley is not blaming me for some obscure shit you want him to blame me for?

and why the fuck did I townread Vivax that's like the real question here
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 16 2017 11:43 GMT
#1876
I love it

Koshi: "BTDT IS SCUM IS SCUM IS SCUM IS SCUM"
Dumb Vivax: "Oh Btdt is scum"

there you go I'm outta here bye
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 16 2017 11:44 GMT
#1877
really go fuck a goat
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 16 2017 11:44 GMT
#1879
or each other
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 17 2017 19:30 GMT
#2379
Good thing we kill Xata

bye
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 17 2017 21:00 GMT
#2389
Wait he claimed cop?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
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