• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:55
CEST 18:55
KST 01:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202518Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder2EWC 2025 - Replay Pack2Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced29BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins EWC 2025 Greatest Players of All Time: 2025 Update #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 EWC 2025 - Replay Pack
Tourneys
TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025 $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest Shield Battery Server New Patch BW General Discussion [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
UK Politics Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 722 users

[N] TL Mafia LXXV - Page 24

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 22 23 24 All
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 30 2017 18:25 GMT
#6462
On July 01 2017 03:13 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2017 03:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
On July 01 2017 03:05 ruXxar wrote:
On July 01 2017 03:01 beentheredonethat wrote:
On July 01 2017 02:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
Where are you getting that the strongman is an additional kp not a role?

I'm not making any sense of thisnl stuff

That's my understanding of Strongman.

On July 01 2017 02:27 ruXxar wrote:
On July 01 2017 02:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
Where are you getting that the strongman is an additional kp not a role?

I'm not making any sense of thisnl stuff


This is what I got from mafia wiki:

Strongman is a role modifier that signifies that any kills performed by this player cannot be blocked by any means - neither by Bulletproof, nor by Doctor or other protective roles, nor by Roleblocks. It is, however, trumped by roles that prevent the victim from being targeted at all, namely Commuter and Hider.

Nowhere does it say that gives the player additional KP.


From the same source:

"Usually, One-Shot Strongman kills are put into the game to balance a potentially broken combination in the game."

It makes perfect sense that scum has one additional KP to get rid of a blue role they discovered.
Thing is: if Strongman is not additional KP, then VA's claim is the only explanation for having a KP every night AND Chez flipping Vet.

QED -> Strongman additional KP.


"Usually, One-Shot Strongman kills are put into the game to balance a potentially broken combination in the game."

It means that you have the strongman ability for 1 kill, not that you get 1 KP.

In a world where VA is the real vig, no strongarm is in.
In a world where VA is a fake claim, a strongarm is in and it is an additional KP because it is literally the only explanation for Chez flipping vet AND every night having exactly one death after the initial two nights with double kp.


Show nested quote +
In a world where VA is a fake claim, a strongarm is in and it is an additional KP because it is literally the only explanation for Chez flipping vet AND every night having exactly one death after the initial two nights with double kp.


I find this very unlikely.

But why is this very unlikely? It is exactly the world that brings us to the situation we're in, KP wise, and it also explains why the majority of wagons was pretty clearly on town and the majority of discussions never had a clear target. Town revolving all around itself with scum only executing drive-by posts if need be and besides that, leaning back and laughing heavily.

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 30 2017 18:32 GMT
#6463
"Count your invs (DT of any kind, vig, town RB/banisher/JK, tracker, watcher) versus the number of mafia.

Make sure in a worst case scenario, the entire mafia team cannot get confirmed the first night (for a 3-player scumteam) or the first two nights (for a 5-player scumteam assuming a mislynch day 1 and 2."

In a world with Watcher, Tracker, Parity Cop as investigatives, can you please show me how the worst case scenario would confirm the 5 player scum team?

I'll try on my own:

The parity cop needs a flip to confirm a player. So his target N1 is town, N2 is scum, and the target N1 dies D2.
That means 1 lynch is on town to confirm one scum.
That means the lynch D1 must be on scum.

1 scum confirmed D1 by lynch.
1 scum confirmed D2 by Parity Cop
1 scum confirmed N1 by Watcher OR Tracker (KP carry)
1 scum confirmed N2 by Watcher OR Tracker (KP carry)
1 scum confirmed D2 by lynch.

That would be 5 confirmed scum within 2 days, if
* town would use both lynches to guess into people INSTEAD OF lynching confirmed scum
* tracker and watcher would hit either the KP target twice in a row OR the KP carrier twice in a row
* tracker and watcher dodge wanderer, parity cop dodges miller AND.. wait, parity cop NEEDS a town flipped to actually confirm scum alignment

so how are people confirmed that fast?



"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 30 2017 18:33 GMT
#6464
Wait it's even assuming 2 mislynches. My head hurts, so disfo you gotta help me out regarding the confirmation scheme.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 30 2017 18:39 GMT
#6465
Guys, please don't overuse oneliners now. Take a step back, think about it, and if all you have left to say is "lynch btdt", then please at least keep in mind what I said because it's super valuable once my role is confirmed.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 30 2017 18:44 GMT
#6467
ahh double kp allows double invests, didn't take that into account. I can see where you're coming from, that makes sense.
That makes you town but doesn't change the fact I'm watcher :/
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 30 2017 21:35 GMT
#6472
Okay. So at this point, I don't see anything happen besides my lynch.
I'm also offline now, going to sleep.

So my last words basically are:

I want to wholeheartedly apologize for all the toxicity, insults and what not I did in this game. I am seriously sorry for that.

GG's
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
July 01 2017 07:47 GMT
#6489
On July 01 2017 06:35 beentheredonethat wrote:


I want to wholeheartedly apologize for all the toxicity, insults and what not I did in this game. I am seriously sorry for that.

GG's

*repeats this*

GG
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
July 04 2017 20:00 GMT
#6773
On July 05 2017 04:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
Wow guys the loss is all your fault i played perfectly

exactly my points
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
July 04 2017 20:00 GMT
#6774
Thank you so much for hosting, Onegu and HtS. Oneg, I hope everything will be better soon
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
July 04 2017 20:20 GMT
#6778
On July 05 2017 05:11 Blazinghand wrote:
I will say BTDT, next time don't bring up the strongarm role unnecessarily like that. Almost sunk us.

well qt was dead for quite some time

I stopped visiting it at some point
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
July 04 2017 22:23 GMT
#6811
On July 05 2017 06:00 Holyflare wrote:
Yes, let's just agree that mafia had super OP shit and that SL had a red check but did nothing about it.

BUT THEY HAD ME TO ALMOST RUIN IT
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
July 06 2017 08:24 GMT
#6831
On July 06 2017 11:33 Blazinghand wrote:
It's cause nobody wanted to actually play after a certain point in the game, they were sold on BTDT and then autolynched into Rels without thinking

You can say what you want about me not listening to the QT but I did shit up the thread a lot and that did help.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
July 06 2017 14:32 GMT
#6863
On July 06 2017 20:32 ruXxar wrote:
Also for btdt, next time I won't be so forgiving of your anti town posts.

You should thank Rayn for saving your ass for so long.

If Rayn hadn't vouched for your townyness I might've tried to lynch you sooner.

My posts were too scummy to be too scummy to be scum apparently
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Prev 1 22 23 24 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV European League
16:00
Round 5
WardiTV578
TKL 195
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 347
Hui .342
TKL 195
BRAT_OK 73
UpATreeSC 62
RushiSC 20
MindelVK 4
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 2163
Bisu 1647
EffOrt 1093
Mini 959
Larva 321
ggaemo 155
Mind 127
Snow 126
Dewaltoss 80
PianO 70
[ Show more ]
Killer 55
soO 47
JYJ43
Movie 41
Sea.KH 37
Aegong 33
yabsab 25
Terrorterran 19
Shinee 18
Sacsri 16
IntoTheRainbow 4
Dota 2
Gorgc6944
qojqva4103
XcaliburYe362
Counter-Strike
fl0m4226
olofmeister613
sgares470
Super Smash Bros
Liquid`Ken40
Other Games
singsing1769
Mlord506
Fuzer 498
crisheroes447
Lowko311
Trikslyr68
QueenE67
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH142
• poizon28 45
• davetesta44
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4843
• WagamamaTV693
League of Legends
• Nemesis4576
• Jankos1012
• TFBlade996
Other Games
• Shiphtur54
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
7h 5m
OSC
19h 35m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
23h 5m
The PondCast
1d 17h
Online Event
1d 23h
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Online Event
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
Yuqilin POB S2
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.