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beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 30 2017 18:25 GMT
#6462
On July 01 2017 03:13 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2017 03:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
On July 01 2017 03:05 ruXxar wrote:
On July 01 2017 03:01 beentheredonethat wrote:
On July 01 2017 02:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
Where are you getting that the strongman is an additional kp not a role?

I'm not making any sense of thisnl stuff

That's my understanding of Strongman.

On July 01 2017 02:27 ruXxar wrote:
On July 01 2017 02:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
Where are you getting that the strongman is an additional kp not a role?

I'm not making any sense of thisnl stuff


This is what I got from mafia wiki:

Strongman is a role modifier that signifies that any kills performed by this player cannot be blocked by any means - neither by Bulletproof, nor by Doctor or other protective roles, nor by Roleblocks. It is, however, trumped by roles that prevent the victim from being targeted at all, namely Commuter and Hider.

Nowhere does it say that gives the player additional KP.


From the same source:

"Usually, One-Shot Strongman kills are put into the game to balance a potentially broken combination in the game."

It makes perfect sense that scum has one additional KP to get rid of a blue role they discovered.
Thing is: if Strongman is not additional KP, then VA's claim is the only explanation for having a KP every night AND Chez flipping Vet.

QED -> Strongman additional KP.


"Usually, One-Shot Strongman kills are put into the game to balance a potentially broken combination in the game."

It means that you have the strongman ability for 1 kill, not that you get 1 KP.

In a world where VA is the real vig, no strongarm is in.
In a world where VA is a fake claim, a strongarm is in and it is an additional KP because it is literally the only explanation for Chez flipping vet AND every night having exactly one death after the initial two nights with double kp.


Show nested quote +
In a world where VA is a fake claim, a strongarm is in and it is an additional KP because it is literally the only explanation for Chez flipping vet AND every night having exactly one death after the initial two nights with double kp.


I find this very unlikely.

But why is this very unlikely? It is exactly the world that brings us to the situation we're in, KP wise, and it also explains why the majority of wagons was pretty clearly on town and the majority of discussions never had a clear target. Town revolving all around itself with scum only executing drive-by posts if need be and besides that, leaning back and laughing heavily.

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 30 2017 18:32 GMT
#6463
"Count your invs (DT of any kind, vig, town RB/banisher/JK, tracker, watcher) versus the number of mafia.

Make sure in a worst case scenario, the entire mafia team cannot get confirmed the first night (for a 3-player scumteam) or the first two nights (for a 5-player scumteam assuming a mislynch day 1 and 2."

In a world with Watcher, Tracker, Parity Cop as investigatives, can you please show me how the worst case scenario would confirm the 5 player scum team?

I'll try on my own:

The parity cop needs a flip to confirm a player. So his target N1 is town, N2 is scum, and the target N1 dies D2.
That means 1 lynch is on town to confirm one scum.
That means the lynch D1 must be on scum.

1 scum confirmed D1 by lynch.
1 scum confirmed D2 by Parity Cop
1 scum confirmed N1 by Watcher OR Tracker (KP carry)
1 scum confirmed N2 by Watcher OR Tracker (KP carry)
1 scum confirmed D2 by lynch.

That would be 5 confirmed scum within 2 days, if
* town would use both lynches to guess into people INSTEAD OF lynching confirmed scum
* tracker and watcher would hit either the KP target twice in a row OR the KP carrier twice in a row
* tracker and watcher dodge wanderer, parity cop dodges miller AND.. wait, parity cop NEEDS a town flipped to actually confirm scum alignment

so how are people confirmed that fast?



"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 30 2017 18:33 GMT
#6464
Wait it's even assuming 2 mislynches. My head hurts, so disfo you gotta help me out regarding the confirmation scheme.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 30 2017 18:39 GMT
#6465
Guys, please don't overuse oneliners now. Take a step back, think about it, and if all you have left to say is "lynch btdt", then please at least keep in mind what I said because it's super valuable once my role is confirmed.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 30 2017 18:44 GMT
#6467
ahh double kp allows double invests, didn't take that into account. I can see where you're coming from, that makes sense.
That makes you town but doesn't change the fact I'm watcher :/
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 30 2017 21:35 GMT
#6472
Okay. So at this point, I don't see anything happen besides my lynch.
I'm also offline now, going to sleep.

So my last words basically are:

I want to wholeheartedly apologize for all the toxicity, insults and what not I did in this game. I am seriously sorry for that.

GG's
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
July 01 2017 07:47 GMT
#6489
On July 01 2017 06:35 beentheredonethat wrote:


I want to wholeheartedly apologize for all the toxicity, insults and what not I did in this game. I am seriously sorry for that.

GG's

*repeats this*

GG
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
July 04 2017 20:00 GMT
#6773
On July 05 2017 04:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
Wow guys the loss is all your fault i played perfectly

exactly my points
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
July 04 2017 20:00 GMT
#6774
Thank you so much for hosting, Onegu and HtS. Oneg, I hope everything will be better soon
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
July 04 2017 20:20 GMT
#6778
On July 05 2017 05:11 Blazinghand wrote:
I will say BTDT, next time don't bring up the strongarm role unnecessarily like that. Almost sunk us.

well qt was dead for quite some time

I stopped visiting it at some point
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
July 04 2017 22:23 GMT
#6811
On July 05 2017 06:00 Holyflare wrote:
Yes, let's just agree that mafia had super OP shit and that SL had a red check but did nothing about it.

BUT THEY HAD ME TO ALMOST RUIN IT
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
July 06 2017 08:24 GMT
#6831
On July 06 2017 11:33 Blazinghand wrote:
It's cause nobody wanted to actually play after a certain point in the game, they were sold on BTDT and then autolynched into Rels without thinking

You can say what you want about me not listening to the QT but I did shit up the thread a lot and that did help.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
July 06 2017 14:32 GMT
#6863
On July 06 2017 20:32 ruXxar wrote:
Also for btdt, next time I won't be so forgiving of your anti town posts.

You should thank Rayn for saving your ass for so long.

If Rayn hadn't vouched for your townyness I might've tried to lynch you sooner.

My posts were too scummy to be too scummy to be scum apparently
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
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