So! Speaking more reasonably about this thread, with disformation on mute:

Skynx is scum. There is no doubt about that anymore, so we basically have to check the remaining players because two more need to be found. Disformation has a solid chance of flipping red, so does Rels - but I have made wrong decisions already and we pretty much cannot afford any yolo mislynches.

Once I find the passion to do that, I will try to filter dive and make the most out of the day. In the meantime, I'm encouraging everyone to vote Skynx.

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

June 29 2017 14:48 GMT

#6253

It is actually very hard to properly think and analyze if you always have that disformation kiddo on your leg holding you back. I'm glad this is solved and I'm ready to engage in proper discussions.

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

June 29 2017 14:50 GMT

#6256

I would love if Skynx, Rels and disformation were the scum team. But outside of Skynx, I actually can see both of disfo and Rels being town. The chances of correctly calling the remaining scum team correctly are rather slim and feel like the last pages and my EoD moves made it easy for scum to fall back a bit and see whether a btdt lynch happens or not.

Rayn, who thus far either ignored OR townread me, was the first one to vote me. That strikes me as odd, I remember him being rather vocal over other players. I expect rayn to heavily reconsider here and look at the explanations I provided and the insights on why I did vote at EoD.

Ruxxar and Blazinghand have chosen to not play right now but I think we can let that pass as it's currently EU time. Or is it? Nevertheless, I'd expect especially Blazinghand to talk way more about what his shenanigans brought up because they were planned, after all.

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

June 29 2017 14:51 GMT

#6257

On June 29 2017 23:50 disformation wrote:
...
"im not talking to you anymore"
"continues to low key insult me"

classy.

Shhh, our fight is over. Please do not enforce it.

I will no longer quote you or relate to what you're writing from now on.

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

June 29 2017 14:52 GMT

#6258

VA - besides the vig shot on sicklucker, he has nothing going on for him. He hasn't contributed greatly, he was super under the radar.

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

June 29 2017 14:52 GMT

#6259

wait

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

June 29 2017 14:53 GMT

#6260

someone said something about strongarm mechanic earlier

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

June 29 2017 14:53 GMT

#6261

Hahahahahahahahahaha

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

June 29 2017 14:54 GMT

#6262

On June 20 2017 00:56 disformation wrote:
but yeah i would guess something like:
1 of gf//framer
1 rb
1 of strongarm/strongman or rolecop
rest goons

On June 20 2017 00:55 disformation wrote:
uh lets see...
rolecop.
scum vigi... but then we would be missing a kp.
strongarm/strongman, basically a scum vig that only works on a blue role.
framer or gf.
busdriver? not sure.
can there be a scum doc? that would be really really nasty though, so i guess not likely?

I just solved the game

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

June 29 2017 14:55 GMT

#6263

Well I haven't but two thirds

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

June 29 2017 15:02 GMT

#6266

So first of all, I am blue. I am Watcher. I visit a person at night and I see if that person was visited and if so, by who.

I have Xata, no visit N1 (wanted to confirm the vig if one was in, no result), I have ruxxar N2 (didnt believe his "bait" on xata, no result), N3 disfo (no visit), VA N4 (no visit)

There is 100% strongarm in. It was used on sicklucker after the roleblocker found out his role. Chezitwo was the target of the regular KP.

VA fake claimed. Of course no counter claim because no vig in. Disformation slipped a TMI.

VA/Disfo

and I am probably wrong on Skynx because I've been wrong on everything thus far.

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

June 29 2017 15:03 GMT

#6267

##vote VayneAuthority

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

June 29 2017 15:09 GMT

#6274

because I expected the kill on VA. There was this jailor talk and when I submitted the check, I didn't know it was bullshit

and my checks weren't horrible. I yelled for a vig shot on Xata because I had a good chance to confirm the vig if only he had shot.

And watching Ruxxar was actually a misunderstanding about how my role worked, I thought I also get info when he moves like a tracker, I've never seen this role previously

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

June 29 2017 15:09 GMT

#6276

Ahhh wait. I said I don't talk to disfo and he instantly reminded me about the why.

Shhh, disfo. Talk to someone else.

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

June 29 2017 15:29 GMT

#6285

On June 26 2017 00:07 VayneAuthority wrote:
yes, im only 1 shot vig to clarify so essentially a VT now

hurr durr this is why?

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

June 29 2017 15:30 GMT

#6287

Setup should be

Tracker
Watcher
Parity Cop
Veteran

vs.

Roleblocker
Rolecop
Framer
GF
Goon

plus Strongarm. Potentially with more unaware millers.

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

June 29 2017 15:32 GMT

#6288

Disformation's setup speculation is clearly showing that he is scum. It's fine if we lynch me today. Once I flip blue, game should auto to VA/disformation, lylo is going to be harder but doable.

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

June 29 2017 15:33 GMT

#6289

Of course I do prefer a VA flip as it will confirm my claim.

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

June 29 2017 15:34 GMT

#6290

And do not listen to disformation in regards to "now this is auto". The worst thing you can do now is to auto on me, then let the game die (because the follow-up to my flip will be auto lynch on VA). Instead, we should make wagons on disfo and VA to cover the given chance that disformation is town.

beentheredonethat

2934 Posts

June 29 2017 15:41 GMT

#6291

On June 30 2017 00:17 Rels wrote:
##Vote beentheredonethat
Don't think you can convince me this makes sense. But let's talk

This is a wrong vote. Don't get confused by the setup speculation of disformation.

Tracker, watcher and parity cop (plus the occasional vet) is super okay as long as scum has enough roles to get away with everything - and scum having strongarm is the only possible explanation for the sicklucker flip. Remember they have full information and drunk sicklucker was all about claiming investigations at night. I think they took it for face value and shot. And who's great at taking things at face value? Right, disformation. Remember his D1, where is already believed SL's claim, only to retract that later.

This is a very possible scenario. VA being scum also explains what has happened so far: town was all about killing itself off, with disformation being the active scummer in the pack. VA, disformation, plus some mid tier activity player.

We can actually draw some lines here:

If disfo is scum #2 (>90% chance at this point), then -

Rels, BH, Skynx, rayn (super suspicious jump on me early), Ruxxar, Fecal is the lynchable pool then. Whoa harsh.