Yeah :/
Thought I'd give smurfing another try now that I don't have that much time anymore. Didn't particularly try to hide my identity though which is why I was really surprised noone actually knew it except for HF.

Oh i never really cared aside figuring out you're good.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

July 04 2017 20:29 GMT

#6780

On July 05 2017 04:55 Holyflare wrote:
town could/should have easily won this game though which is sad even with all the mafia favoured things but a lot of people just didn't care to interact and just yelled or afkd/wanted to auto lynch through a list which has never ever worked in any game

Thats always why towns do not win games tbh.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

July 04 2017 20:30 GMT

#6781

On July 05 2017 05:08 justanothertownie wrote:
The unprompted clarification of the strongarm role by the hosts in the scum qt is something that should never be done either btw.

Correct. Not that i have sticked with my "decision" anyways but still correct.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

July 05 2017 12:06 GMT

#6818

What Koshi? How on earth did i play well on D1? :O
I probably made like 3 posts as i got fucked by double 18h workdays.

I have honestly never ever missed a vote before and i feel kinda cheap for that even though i basically couldnt do anything about it. I just fell asleep instantly when i got home.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

July 06 2017 02:22 GMT

#6825

Why did annul get lynched?

I only read why Rels voted for him but that didn't make any sense to me. I understand his point but if annul was mafia and wanted Xatalos to vote for sicklucker he should assume there is no way it happens the way he did it because what he did is more likely to spawn a vote on him than on sicklucker from Xatalos. I know that's what annul was in fact trying to do and Rels was right in that sense but just don't think mafia could ever think like that.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

July 06 2017 02:31 GMT

#6827

I also don't get why noone ever caught this or at least never explained it in clear words because i think this would have been a slam dunk case. From scum qt:

"btw, there is a sequence in your filter on the day Palmar gets lynched starting from here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/5232...-lxxv?page=278#5546
... where you imply you think btdt is mafia, then you say Rels is probably better lynch than Palmar, but your vote ends up on Palmar. You might want to think how you are gonna explain that in case someone finds it. I went to your filter doing the analysis i was supposed to and i was like "fuuuuuck i cant do this". "

On July 06 2017 11:03 Tumblewood wrote:
gg anyway. i felt more like a spectator than a player but it was a pretty sweet game to watch. a fun group of players

I think you did fine in a sense that noone really heavily considered you as mafia. You just got unfortunately fucked by PR's.

At least i thought, at that point, that you are the last one of us to go down.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

July 06 2017 02:35 GMT

#6829

On July 06 2017 11:33 Blazinghand wrote:
It's cause nobody wanted to actually play after a certain point in the game, they were sold on BTDT and then autolynched into Rels without thinking

But that was a point when Palmar was alive and made a case on btdt who you thought was mafia. Why would you vote for Palmar instead of Rels there? (this was quite early in the day people lynched Palmar)

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

July 06 2017 12:17 GMT

#6843

On July 06 2017 20:42 Holyflare wrote:
In hindsight rayn is a pretty easy catch when he was hard defending sl (when nobody else was) but then kept asking what the case was. Don't think town rayn wouldn't know what it was ever.

idk, might be , might not. I genuinely went to read what was said about him and didnt understand it. The only thing i understood was Rels' "he did townie things on D1" and i was like "umm what??".... I also genuinely do not pay attention to players i townread (early on) in big games. I mean, i try to develop townreads and then if it looks like those townreads are not helping me, or i feel so, i just ignore them and focus on other stuff. Although you are most likely right i prolly would have payed a bit more attention to the sicklucker case.

I also dont play against dead players, i thought i could get away with what i did with the living players.

There were probably many things that could have caught me, my unwillingness to read BH filter properly on the day Rels was lynched was definitely one. I was just 99% certain i don't 99% have to do it adn the game ends OR people are even scumreading FF over BH so i just rolled with it as i think IF i had done even semi-proper analysis on BH it would have hurt us more than not doing it.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

July 06 2017 12:23 GMT

#6844

On July 06 2017 20:35 ruXxar wrote:
Also I have a surefire way to tell if Rayn is town or mafia now.

You probably don't.

Because noone has, except for marv.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

July 06 2017 12:42 GMT

#6845

Oh i now see why you thought so Holyflare. I didn't actually read what sicklucker did, i read what Rels said about him and what you said in obs QT was not what he said.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

July 06 2017 12:52 GMT

#6848

I am not sure if i had read him as town again either in case the case made on him was the same.

Probably would as mafia, definitely would as town, if it was what Holyflare said in obs.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

July 06 2017 12:56 GMT

#6850

There was no "why are you still alive" because we just killed all the people who were never ever gonna get lynched in this game and you can always argue that.

Basically, after i saw Xatalos (who was supposed to be our endgame dude originally) is fucked i just shot people i couldn't lynch and/or who are good and can figure me out and win 1v1 argument, except for Palmar because he was not active enough to have credit. Although in case Palmar was not lynched the day he was i would have had to shoot him the next night.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

July 06 2017 13:12 GMT

#6852

tbh i wanted to keep you alive because i knew you would townread me for actually interacting with you.

and because of what you just said, your "problem" with your play is that you try to do so much stuff you never get anything done. I never felt like you were a threat regardless of what your reads were since you werent really pushing anything, you were just pointing out stuff. ^^

Also lol at your "wow i almost made mafia strongman me". You are forgetting that was the dude who also wanted to strongman darthfoley after we had checked him as VT..... When you softed vet i was sure you are NOT a vet, anything else but NOT a vet. ^_^