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On June 29 2017 22:37 disformation wrote:like some of your points on skynx arent bad, but i still can see his d1 come from town and a bunch of his other posts def. have a town feel to them. i even understand him not wanting to answer your questions, because talking to you is a huge pain in the ass. meanwhile in your camp: Show nested quote +On June 29 2017 18:28 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 29 2017 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't really need to read anything more about it.
Basically btdt thinks both Palmar and Skynx are mafia. He thinks Skynx is bussing Palmar and his conclusion is that he switches to Rels to bait Skynx into switching OFF from bussing!
Basically btdt wanted to give Skynx ammo to lynch a non-scumread (or lesser scumread) rather than being fine with Skynx bussing his top scumread. There is no way a townie does that. I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels. I wanted to see his reaction on me switching. I expected scum!Skynx to:1. yell at btdt because "why are you switching off your scumread" 2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar
Skynx hammering Rels, saving his Palmar buddy who he bussed before would've been the best confirmation to get there. Shame though that apparently, Skynx is scum with Palmar and I just gave him the best excuse to a) push me and b) not push Rels any time soon. From mafia perspective, my play makes absolutely zero sense. If I were scum, I would be super content in not being around at deadline and let the shennanies pass. I have full information as scum. If Palmar is scum, I'd hope and pray for people hammering Rels, if Rels was scum, I wouldn't switch at all and instead let everything pass as-is, since I have all the reasons in the world to be on Palmar. If both wagons are town, I could just sit back and let BH do whatever he wants because no matter which wagon is gonna flip, I have a super ez mislynch to push the next day. There is literally no. NO. way that people read a scummy behaviour into what I did. My play would maybe be scummy if Rels was scum. I can see that happen. But Rels hasn't flipped, and disfo, the not-fan of unflipped associations, votes with Skynx, the not-giver of reasons, together with rayn, who had a townlean OR ignored me all game long. This is super fishy and you guys should super realize that. During NIGHT phase, thread sentiment changes against me, even with Ruxxar joining. It doesn't make sense. If you auto on me without even a counter wagon (and I would recommend Skynx being the fucking counter wagon here), then there's no way you'll gain any valuable information from me flipping not red.
Like if you bold this shit than you should bold as well the fucking context
but you can of course choose what to read, what to highlight, and what to explain
this is skynx/disfo/rels lynch the fuck out of these guys as soon as I flip
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If only I had let this pass. People would be all over Rels and the game would actually have a bit of sanity and decency to it
but that witch hunter after btdt is just so amazingly bad
there IS NO REASON TO SCUMREAD ME, DISFORMATION, AND YOU SAID IT SOME TIMES ALREADY, SAME AS RUXXAR, SAME AS FUCKING SKYNX
YET SOMEHOW, A PLAY THAT I DID, CONCIOUSLY, TO FIND SCUM, MAKES ME SCUM? HOW CAN YOU ALL COME TO THAT CONCLUSION? HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?
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On June 29 2017 22:44 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2017 22:38 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 29 2017 22:37 disformation wrote:like some of your points on skynx arent bad, but i still can see his d1 come from town and a bunch of his other posts def. have a town feel to them. i even understand him not wanting to answer your questions, because talking to you is a huge pain in the ass. meanwhile in your camp: On June 29 2017 18:28 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 29 2017 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't really need to read anything more about it.
Basically btdt thinks both Palmar and Skynx are mafia. He thinks Skynx is bussing Palmar and his conclusion is that he switches to Rels to bait Skynx into switching OFF from bussing!
Basically btdt wanted to give Skynx ammo to lynch a non-scumread (or lesser scumread) rather than being fine with Skynx bussing his top scumread. There is no way a townie does that. I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels. I wanted to see his reaction on me switching. I expected scum!Skynx to:1. yell at btdt because "why are you switching off your scumread" 2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar
Skynx hammering Rels, saving his Palmar buddy who he bussed before would've been the best confirmation to get there. Shame though that apparently, Skynx is scum with Palmar and I just gave him the best excuse to a) push me and b) not push Rels any time soon. From mafia perspective, my play makes absolutely zero sense. If I were scum, I would be super content in not being around at deadline and let the shennanies pass. I have full information as scum. If Palmar is scum, I'd hope and pray for people hammering Rels, if Rels was scum, I wouldn't switch at all and instead let everything pass as-is, since I have all the reasons in the world to be on Palmar. If both wagons are town, I could just sit back and let BH do whatever he wants because no matter which wagon is gonna flip, I have a super ez mislynch to push the next day. There is literally no. NO. way that people read a scummy behaviour into what I did. My play would maybe be scummy if Rels was scum. I can see that happen. But Rels hasn't flipped, and disfo, the not-fan of unflipped associations, votes with Skynx, the not-giver of reasons, together with rayn, who had a townlean OR ignored me all game long. This is super fishy and you guys should super realize that. During NIGHT phase, thread sentiment changes against me, even with Ruxxar joining. It doesn't make sense. If you auto on me without even a counter wagon (and I would recommend Skynx being the fucking counter wagon here), then there's no way you'll gain any valuable information from me flipping not red. If you quote something and highlight something, the next step to take is "draw a conclusion" I think that's what you do every five pages or so *sigh* 1. I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.2. I expected scum!Skynx to: 2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar3. Skynx hammering Rels, so you didnt want to bait skynx into voting rels, but you expected him to vote and hammer rels. which means you were okay with someone you didnt really sr to be the lynch. which means you are scum, cause that is absolutely not a scum thought process. shouldnt need to point out that the bold sentences directly contradict each other. ill give you that this shit makes not much sense from a scum pov, but it is horribly scummy and basically impossible to come from town. given your play the whole game and shit ill give like an 75% chance of being scum and a 25% chance of being a toxic ass, making you a 100% good lynch. and yes that 75% is currently the hightest scum chance i am giving out, which is why i am voting you.
Nah. You're simply not understanding what I'm saying. More clear:
1. I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.
2. I expected scum!Skynx to: 2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar
It wasn't a "bait" with "please bite and maybe I gain something". It was an expectation. I was 100% sure that Skynx would save his scumbuddy Palmar by hammering Rels. Because he could always go back and blame BH for this.
I don't know how you can understand this in the way you construct it to be understood
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On June 29 2017 22:47 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
If only I had let this pass. People would be all over Rels and the game would actually have a bit of sanity and decency to it
but that witch hunter after btdt is just so amazingly bad
there IS NO REASON TO SCUMREAD ME, DISFORMATION, AND YOU SAID IT SOME TIMES ALREADY, SAME AS RUXXAR, SAME AS FUCKING SKYNX
YET SOMEHOW, A PLAY THAT I DID, CONCIOUSLY, TO FIND SCUM, MAKES ME SCUM? HOW CAN YOU ALL COME TO THAT CONCLUSION? HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? because those posts where the scummiest fucking posts in the whole thread?
Except they weren't????? Even the outcome is the fucking same.
If I had done NOTHING, palmar would've flipped nevertheless. And OHHHH Palmar flipped. Same outcome. EVERYTHING THAT IS SAID ABOUT THAT BEING SCUMMY is either SUPERBAD or an abosloutely misconstructed lie.
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On June 29 2017 22:50 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2017 22:48 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 29 2017 22:44 disformation wrote:On June 29 2017 22:38 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 29 2017 22:37 disformation wrote:like some of your points on skynx arent bad, but i still can see his d1 come from town and a bunch of his other posts def. have a town feel to them. i even understand him not wanting to answer your questions, because talking to you is a huge pain in the ass. meanwhile in your camp: On June 29 2017 18:28 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 29 2017 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't really need to read anything more about it.
Basically btdt thinks both Palmar and Skynx are mafia. He thinks Skynx is bussing Palmar and his conclusion is that he switches to Rels to bait Skynx into switching OFF from bussing!
Basically btdt wanted to give Skynx ammo to lynch a non-scumread (or lesser scumread) rather than being fine with Skynx bussing his top scumread. There is no way a townie does that. I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels. I wanted to see his reaction on me switching. I expected scum!Skynx to:1. yell at btdt because "why are you switching off your scumread" 2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar
Skynx hammering Rels, saving his Palmar buddy who he bussed before would've been the best confirmation to get there. Shame though that apparently, Skynx is scum with Palmar and I just gave him the best excuse to a) push me and b) not push Rels any time soon. From mafia perspective, my play makes absolutely zero sense. If I were scum, I would be super content in not being around at deadline and let the shennanies pass. I have full information as scum. If Palmar is scum, I'd hope and pray for people hammering Rels, if Rels was scum, I wouldn't switch at all and instead let everything pass as-is, since I have all the reasons in the world to be on Palmar. If both wagons are town, I could just sit back and let BH do whatever he wants because no matter which wagon is gonna flip, I have a super ez mislynch to push the next day. There is literally no. NO. way that people read a scummy behaviour into what I did. My play would maybe be scummy if Rels was scum. I can see that happen. But Rels hasn't flipped, and disfo, the not-fan of unflipped associations, votes with Skynx, the not-giver of reasons, together with rayn, who had a townlean OR ignored me all game long. This is super fishy and you guys should super realize that. During NIGHT phase, thread sentiment changes against me, even with Ruxxar joining. It doesn't make sense. If you auto on me without even a counter wagon (and I would recommend Skynx being the fucking counter wagon here), then there's no way you'll gain any valuable information from me flipping not red. If you quote something and highlight something, the next step to take is "draw a conclusion" I think that's what you do every five pages or so *sigh* 1. I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels.2. I expected scum!Skynx to: 2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar3. Skynx hammering Rels, so you didnt want to bait skynx into voting rels, but you expected him to vote and hammer rels. which means you were okay with someone you didnt really sr to be the lynch. which means you are scum, cause that is absolutely not a scum thought process. shouldnt need to point out that the bold sentences directly contradict each other. ill give you that this shit makes not much sense from a scum pov, but it is horribly scummy and basically impossible to come from town. given your play the whole game and shit ill give like an 75% chance of being scum and a 25% chance of being a toxic ass, making you a 100% good lynch. and yes that 75% is currently the hightest scum chance i am giving out, which is why i am voting you. Nah. You're simply not understanding what I'm saying. More clear: 1. I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels. 2. I expected scum!Skynx to: 2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar It wasn't a "bait" with "please bite and maybe I gain something". It was an expectation. I was 100% sure that Skynx would save his scumbuddy Palmar by hammering Rels. Because he could always go back and blame BH for this. I don't know how you can understand this in the way you construct it to be understood so that just means you were expecting a rels lynch from that play. who you didnt even properly scum read. like this makes it even worse.
How does this make it worse? I expect my scum read to hammer a town wagon to save his scumread.
That's what I expect. How is that making it worse? HOW FUCKIUNFG HOW FUCKING TELL ME THAT
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On June 29 2017 22:50 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2017 22:50 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 29 2017 22:47 disformation wrote:On June 29 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
If only I had let this pass. People would be all over Rels and the game would actually have a bit of sanity and decency to it
but that witch hunter after btdt is just so amazingly bad
there IS NO REASON TO SCUMREAD ME, DISFORMATION, AND YOU SAID IT SOME TIMES ALREADY, SAME AS RUXXAR, SAME AS FUCKING SKYNX
YET SOMEHOW, A PLAY THAT I DID, CONCIOUSLY, TO FIND SCUM, MAKES ME SCUM? HOW CAN YOU ALL COME TO THAT CONCLUSION? HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? because those posts where the scummiest fucking posts in the whole thread? Except they weren't????? Even the outcome is the fucking same. If I had done NOTHING, palmar would've flipped nevertheless. And OHHHH Palmar flipped. Same outcome. EVERYTHING THAT IS SAID ABOUT THAT BEING SCUMMY is either SUPERBAD or an abosloutely misconstructed lie. no. if skynx had switched with you rels would have been the lynch. even if you switched back
Yeah because everyone had the hammer. Every single vote at this point was decisive.
If Skynx had switched with me, Rels would've flipped as town and boom we have Skynx and Palmar confirmed as fucking scummers
congrats you understood what I wanted to achieve
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On June 29 2017 22:52 disformation wrote:
BECAUSE YOU ARE WILLINGLY LET SOMEONE FLIP WHO IS NOT A SCUMREAD OF YOURS
YES AND I DO IT TO CONFIRM PALMAR AND SKYNX WHAT IS SO HARD ABOUT THAT
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LIKE HOW IS IT FUCKING BETTER WHAT WE HAVE NOWQ? NOW WE HAVE A FLIPPED PALMAR AND WE ARE TECHNICALLY NOT EVEN SURE IF RELS IS SCUM OR NOT
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AND TO FIND OUT WHAT RELS ALIGNMENT IS YOU WANT TO LYNCH ME BECAUSE THATS WHAT SKYNX IS ASSOCIATING
BUT DISFORMATION DOESNT LIKE UNFLIPPED AASSOCIATIONS RIGHT EXCEPT WHEN IT COMES FROM FUCKING SKYNX
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On June 29 2017 22:54 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2017 22:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
AND TO FIND OUT WHAT RELS ALIGNMENT IS YOU WANT TO LYNCH ME BECAUSE THATS WHAT SKYNX IS ASSOCIATING
BUT DISFORMATION DOESNT LIKE UNFLIPPED AASSOCIATIONS RIGHT EXCEPT WHEN IT COMES FROM FUCKING SKYNX which unflipped association? i am lynching you because you did scummy shit.
this is bullshit
you're lynching me because it's scum agenda. you ignore my asnswers, you ignore what I do AND you're totrally okay with Skynx saying "yeah Rels is scum with btdt"
Because this SHOULD terigger you, you've been all over unflipped associations being bad and this was a huge reason why dyou discarded what I said about skynx
BUT you ignore it when skynx says it
you're so super duper scum with skynx no way you arent
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On June 29 2017 19:46 Skynx wrote:I'm not gona grace this farce with a long enough answer. I cased scum D1, literally created the train along with DF. TW was in my scumpool since D1. Your stuff on me always being middle pack in votes doesn't makes sense & doesn't make me scum. When Grack vs sl happened, you stuff on me saying I never tried to push for sl lynch against grack doesn't make me scum. I scumread both. I called out sl eod1, grack later. I am town. I tried to case other people best I could, then someone tells me 'whats the point of you doing this?' then i give up this game, thats human reaction to time you spend not being appreciated. That is your only valid argument against me that 'I'm not even playing'. Go ahead try to lynch me for that. That really makes me scum. You on the other hand Show nested quote +On June 29 2017 18:31 beentheredonethat wrote:
The only (!!!!!) thing Skynx has "contributed" to the game is "oh, btdt is scum". This is his only participation in the game. And he ONLY COMES IN to say that, drop some snarky comments (or post youtube videos), then he leaves again.
So my bait is "ok, I will switch to Rels, because the story Skynx' is painting is that btdt is scum ALTHOUGH he's voting Palmar (plot twist: while saying that I'm scum because I'm voting Palmar and not him, same applies to him voting palmar over me ffs). So as soon as I switch to Rels, Skynx will jump on me because that's what he's painting."
Skynx doesn't care and never cared about Palmar. He was super fine with the lynch and the reasons he gave for lynching Palmar were either poor OR nonexistant because all Skyx did was hedging about me being scum.
Everyone following SKYNX is either a super dumbass or scum, that's like the whole black/white vote there is. I never said the bolded. You are scum because you have never scumhunted, you are toxic, you mislead stuff (like here). Show nested quote +On June 28 2017 18:03 Skynx wrote:
Btdt lets be honest here.
None of your yesterday actions are town, including you not voting Palmar or me for 1.5 daylengths long when you already 100% believe we're both scum since start of the day.
My reaction to your switch is town. You are shennanying off your top scumread. In addition I am scumreading Palmar 100%, if i dont sr you for saving a scum, wtf i even do?
You scumreading me for it is not town. It just doesn't makes sense. Thats why half of the game went wtf over it and you gona have a hard time convincing anyone. That is what i said, you didn't vote anyone for 36 hours while being apparently convinced that we're 100% scum. This doesn't makes sense. Scumreading me for scumreading you for you did what you did doesn't makes sense. You are scum. This I'm quitting stuff also isn't convincing. When nearly everyone (not just me & disfo) (another misleading) scumreads you for what you did, they are not insane, you're probably just mafia instead. + Show Spoiler +On June 28 2017 13:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The fuck did i just read? On June 28 2017 16:13 ruXxar wrote:
Btdt, explain something to me.
You think that skynx is scum.
Skynx is voting for palmar.
You are voting for palmar.
You switch to rels and now skynx calls you scum.
Now you are even more sure that skynx is scum.
You switch your vote back to palmar, once again voting together with your 100% scum read skynx.
How does that make any sense? On June 28 2017 17:33 disformation wrote:
and i can understand skynx revoking his tr on you for this voteswitching stuff.
i.e. i can see skynx eod coming from a town pov.
yours not. On June 28 2017 07:58 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2017 07:57 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 28 2017 07:56 Palmar wrote:On June 28 2017 07:54 beentheredonethat wrote:
##unvote
##vote Rels
Skynx still on Palmar
I'm actually okay with these shennanies Yeah this guy is probably mafia shennie? you know what ##unvote
##vote PalmarLook at Skynx jumping back on me  scuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum On June 28 2017 07:58 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2017 07:58 Palmar wrote:On June 28 2017 07:57 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 28 2017 07:56 Palmar wrote:On June 28 2017 07:54 beentheredonethat wrote:
##unvote
##vote Rels
Skynx still on Palmar
I'm actually okay with these shennanies Yeah this guy is probably mafia shennie? you know what ##unvote
##vote PalmarLook at Skynx jumping back on me scuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum yeah what the fuck BTDT
Hope your last partner is hidden well otherwise you might just aswell concede now.
there you have it but ofc you ignore it
and also he's freely asdmitting that he has no idea what the last partner is like "if the last partner is hidden" what is this sentence??? If he's town he should have a good idea about scum being hidden or scum being under pressure but APPRANTELY HE DOESNT
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that's bullshit
that's super bullshit
you're making the cheap, thread sentimenty vote because your not even willing to consider anything besides me. You lynched Grack, you lynched Palmar, you now lynch me, that's three townies you follow the thread in a row
there's no need to case you you're all doing it on your own.
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Yeah but I do not follow thread sentiment
on the contrary I actually have balls and my own thoughts and I dare to do something because I am not scum who is always in danger of getting caught
I said 10000 times I should be conftown by now but apparently everyone townreads 50+ pages disformation over me ALL THE WHILE saying that activity is no alignment indicator rofl
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On June 29 2017 23:18 disformation wrote:
@VA: any sort of comment on whats going on, or a case on rels or anything?
WHY RELS
WHY NOT ME
HOLY WHAT ARE YOU
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I don't expect you to unvote me
I expect you to apologize post game and never doubt players that are way superior to you
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50 pages of nothing I want to see one town player being able to replicate that
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On June 29 2017 23:21 disformation wrote:
or convince me that skynx is scum. or you town.
or anything
everyone note that disformation finally stopped waffling and took a decision
and everyone rejoice because it's like the wrongest decision possible
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On June 29 2017 23:22 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2017 23:21 beentheredonethat wrote:
I don't expect you to unvote me
I expect you to apologize post game and never doubt players that are way superior to you fuck you asshole.
Hahahahaha
don't even try to pretend you're insultted scummer
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On June 29 2017 23:27 disformation wrote:
see. now i am a point again, where i have to assume you are scum, because i dont want to life in a world where town gets away with such asshole behavior.
didnt shoot me and try to tilt me because I have a record of doing stupid shit?
This is exactly what's happening
and the stupid shit is you voting me
but you served your own meal so enjoy it
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On June 29 2017 23:32 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2017 23:21 beentheredonethat wrote:
I don't expect you to unvote me
I expect you to apologize post game and never doubt players that are way superior to you oh nearly forgot you were the one who wanted to lynch me over the scum rb. "superior" all right.
WHICH IS THE TECHNICALLY CORRECT PLAY TO MAKE
I'll not speak with you anymore for the complete duration of this game
it's useless
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