On June 24 2017 00:11 Chezitwo wrote: When did SL state his tumble read then? Because if he was 100 % sure TW is town because he thought I am mafia then Tumblewood is mafia.
Wait you and Tumble are same if eversince is town? Am i getting this right?
I don't know if SL was trolling or trying to sugarcoat his cookie crumbs. SL called FF/Chez both redchecks. SL didn't check FF though. He checked TW/Chez. I'm working on the assumption of, how can you confidently townread TW at the point SL does? Let alone call him 100% confirmed town in the way SL does? It only makes sense if his result came back different. Because Chez is auto mafia in SL's mind from D1.
On June 28 2017 17:50 beentheredonethat wrote: One. One reason why I'm scum Skynx. Give me ONE reason that does not fall apart as soon as people look at it :D
You cannot give one because you don't have one. Keep up the videos, scum.
On June 28 2017 16:13 ruXxar wrote: Btdt, explain something to me.
You think that skynx is scum.
Skynx is voting for palmar. You are voting for palmar.
You switch to rels and now skynx calls you scum.
Now you are even more sure that skynx is scum.
You switch your vote back to palmar, once again voting together with your 100% scum read skynx.
How does that make any sense?
Plot twist: btdt was Carmine Lupetazzi
I think it's time you stop throwing accusations around and instead start playing the game. You're being toxic, uncontributive and overall you're lacking arguments.
Ohhh wait you're scum :D you'll never do these things
And be my guest:
But you do realize that you fulfill that very bolded sentence by bolding that sentence and adding nothing to it?
On June 28 2017 17:50 beentheredonethat wrote: One. One reason why I'm scum Skynx. Give me ONE reason that does not fall apart as soon as people look at it :D
You cannot give one because you don't have one. Keep up the videos, scum.
I'll try, here is one:
On June 28 2017 17:04 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 28 2017 16:31 Skynx wrote:
On June 28 2017 16:13 ruXxar wrote: Btdt, explain something to me.
You think that skynx is scum.
Skynx is voting for palmar. You are voting for palmar.
You switch to rels and now skynx calls you scum.
Now you are even more sure that skynx is scum.
You switch your vote back to palmar, once again voting together with your 100% scum read skynx.
I think it's time you stop throwing accusations around and instead start playing the game. You're being toxic, uncontributive and overall you're lacking arguments.
Ohhh wait you're scum :D you'll never do these things
But you do realize that you fulfill that very bolded sentence by bolding that sentence and adding nothing to it?
Not really. Implication is that you're acting like everything you claim me to be in bolded.
You're posting videos and refuse to play the game, that's toxic. You say that I act in a certain way but refuse to put up any reasons. You pretend this is why you're scumreading me while you said previously "hey, this guy's so bad he cannot be scum". I call that toxic - and wait, I actually provide a reason
I'm leaving the thead now. I'm not gonna discuss stuff with most likely two scummers that are working heavily on me getting myself modkilled by insulting people
everyone says "don't read based on activity" but everyone townreads disfo for activity reasons and everyone who doesn't agree is a liar to himself becaus that's how it is
On June 28 2017 18:03 Skynx wrote: Btdt lets be honest here.
None of your yesterday actions are town, including you not voting Palmar or me for 1.5 daylengths long when you already 100% believe we're both scum since start of the day.
My reaction to your switch is town. You are shennanying off your top scumread. In addition I am scumreading Palmar 100%, if i dont sr you for saving a scum, wtf i even do?
You scumreading me for it is not town. It just doesn't makes sense. Thats why half of the game went wtf over it and you gona have a hard time convincing anyone.
Me not voting Palmar would only make sense if Palmar is my scum buddy
but d'oh he wasn't
"You are shennanying off your top scumread"
- no I'm not. I toyed with you, baited your reaction, then hammered Palmar - who is only my second top scumread because you are my top scum read.
You are scumreading Palmar 100% but you're perfectly fine with your other scumread to vote Palmar and this doesn't give you a bad feeling at all?
Of course I am scumreading you here. And "half of the game went wtf over it" is once more a representation. it's you and disfo. and everyone else has either not played yet or is lurking and super happy about what is happening here.
Also Skynx how come that all of a sudden, you have reasons to scumread me while before, you weren't able to bring reasons? Hmm oh yeah because you construct your read on me and it's shit
Rayn, disfo, go eat a dick. Skynx just yolo-voted me. There is no explanation. This guy is all abusing that my reads were wrong. Which is a town trait. It's just super amazing how you jump on me, completely ignoring how scummy Skynx is.
This is the worst town I've ever played with and I am probably never going to sign up for a game anymore. What is happening here is like Trump election: a majority of dumbasses following a guy who
a) lied b) put on false accusation c) is refusing to answer solid and decent questions d) comes in and plays ONLY to push me e) comes in and plays ONLY if thread revolves around me f) is super scummy
I will tell you how this game is going to be:
You will
1. lynch me. Realize "oh shit, he's town" once I flip. 2. You will then cry about how fucked up btdt's play has been and it's all btdt's fault 3. You will then proceed to lynch Rels who probably is town 4. You will then proceed to mislynch another townie because you all chose to townread Skynx at the very moment you put your vote on me 5. You will then realize "oh game over" and you will give kudos to Skynx as scum mvp
You will also say "wow, disformation, it's amazing how you can have that level of activity although you're scum, fucking well played bro". You will of course yell at BH because "your dumb shenanigans made us mislynch btdt".
On June 29 2017 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't really need to read anything more about it. Basically btdt thinks both Palmar and Skynx are mafia. He thinks Skynx is bussing Palmar and his conclusion is that he switches to Rels to bait Skynx into switching OFF from bussing!
Basically btdt wanted to give Skynx ammo to lynch a non-scumread (or lesser scumread) rather than being fine with Skynx bussing his top scumread. There is no way a townie does that.
I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels. I wanted to see his reaction on me switching.
I expected scum!Skynx to:
1. yell at btdt because "why are you switching off your scumread" 2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar
Skynx hammering Rels, saving his Palmar buddy who he bussed before would've been the best confirmation to get there. Shame though that apparently, Skynx is scum with Palmar and I just gave him the best excuse to a) push me and b) not push Rels any time soon.
From mafia perspective, my play makes absolutely zero sense. If I were scum, I would be super content in not being around at deadline and let the shennanies pass. I have full information as scum. If Palmar is scum, I'd hope and pray for people hammering Rels, if Rels was scum, I wouldn't switch at all and instead let everything pass as-is, since I have all the reasons in the world to be on Palmar.
If both wagons are town, I could just sit back and let BH do whatever he wants because no matter which wagon is gonna flip, I have a super ez mislynch to push the next day.
There is literally no. NO. way that people read a scummy behaviour into what I did.
My play would maybe be scummy if Rels was scum. I can see that happen. But Rels hasn't flipped, and disfo, the not-fan of unflipped associations, votes with Skynx, the not-giver of reasons, together with rayn, who had a townlean OR ignored me all game long.
This is super fishy and you guys should super realize that.
During NIGHT phase, thread sentiment changes against me, even with Ruxxar joining. It doesn't make sense. If you auto on me without even a counter wagon (and I would recommend Skynx being the fucking counter wagon here), then there's no way you'll gain any valuable information from me flipping not red.
The only (!!!!!) thing Skynx has "contributed" to the game is "oh, btdt is scum". This is his only participation in the game. And he ONLY COMES IN to say that, drop some snarky comments (or post youtube videos), then he leaves again.
So my bait is "ok, I will switch to Rels, because the story Skynx' is painting is that btdt is scum ALTHOUGH he's voting Palmar (plot twist: while saying that I'm scum because I'm voting Palmar and not him, same applies to him voting palmar over me ffs). So as soon as I switch to Rels, Skynx will jump on me because that's what he's painting."
Skynx doesn't care and never cared about Palmar. He was super fine with the lynch and the reasons he gave for lynching Palmar were either poor OR nonexistant because all Skyx did was hedging about me being scum.
Everyone following SKYNX is either a super dumbass or scum, that's like the whole black/white vote there is.
On June 29 2017 19:42 disformation wrote: not understanding how i am following skynx when the reason i am voting you is your eod as I pointed out in the nightphase. *shrugs*
On June 29 2017 19:46 Skynx wrote: I'm not gona grace this farce with a long enough answer.
I cased scum D1, literally created the train along with DF. TW was in my scumpool since D1. Your stuff on me always being middle pack in votes doesn't makes sense & doesn't make me scum. When Grack vs sl happened, you stuff on me saying I never tried to push for sl lynch against grack doesn't make me scum. I scumread both. I called out sl eod1, grack later.
I am town. I tried to case other people best I could, then someone tells me 'whats the point of you doing this?' then i give up this game, thats human reaction to time you spend not being appreciated. That is your only valid argument against me that 'I'm not even playing'. Go ahead try to lynch me for that. That really makes me scum.
On June 29 2017 18:31 beentheredonethat wrote: The only (!!!!!) thing Skynx has "contributed" to the game is "oh, btdt is scum". This is his only participation in the game. And he ONLY COMES IN to say that, drop some snarky comments (or post youtube videos), then he leaves again.
So my bait is "ok, I will switch to Rels, because the story Skynx' is painting is that btdt is scum ALTHOUGH he's voting Palmar (plot twist: while saying that I'm scum because I'm voting Palmar and not him, same applies to him voting palmar over me ffs). So as soon as I switch to Rels, Skynx will jump on me because that's what he's painting."
Skynx doesn't care and never cared about Palmar. He was super fine with the lynch and the reasons he gave for lynching Palmar were either poor OR nonexistant because all Skyx did was hedging about me being scum.
Everyone following SKYNX is either a super dumbass or scum, that's like the whole black/white vote there is.
I never said the bolded. You are scum because you have never scumhunted, you are toxic, you mislead stuff (like here).
On June 28 2017 18:03 Skynx wrote: Btdt lets be honest here.
None of your yesterday actions are town, including you not voting Palmar or me for 1.5 daylengths long when you already 100% believe we're both scum since start of the day.
My reaction to your switch is town. You are shennanying off your top scumread. In addition I am scumreading Palmar 100%, if i dont sr you for saving a scum, wtf i even do?
You scumreading me for it is not town. It just doesn't makes sense. Thats why half of the game went wtf over it and you gona have a hard time convincing anyone.
That is what i said, you didn't vote anyone for 36 hours while being apparently convinced that we're 100% scum. This doesn't makes sense. Scumreading me for scumreading you for you did what you did doesn't makes sense.
You are scum. This I'm quitting stuff also isn't convincing. When nearly everyone (not just me & disfo) (another misleading) scumreads you for what you did, they are not insane, you're probably just mafia instead.+ Show Spoiler +
On June 28 2017 13:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: The fuck did i just read?
On June 28 2017 16:13 ruXxar wrote: Btdt, explain something to me.
You think that skynx is scum.
Skynx is voting for palmar. You are voting for palmar.
You switch to rels and now skynx calls you scum.
Now you are even more sure that skynx is scum.
You switch your vote back to palmar, once again voting together with your 100% scum read skynx.
How does that make any sense?
On June 28 2017 17:33 disformation wrote: and i can understand skynx revoking his tr on you for this voteswitching stuff. i.e. i can see skynx eod coming from a town pov. yours not.
On June 28 2017 07:54 beentheredonethat wrote: ##unvote ##vote Rels
Skynx still on Palmar
I'm actually okay with these shennanies
Yeah this guy is probably mafia
shennie?
you know what ##unvote ##vote Palmar
Look at Skynx jumping back on me
scuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum
yeah what the fuck BTDT
I said nearly everyone, cuz guess who is missing there. Rels being around on EoD just appears to be completely ignored your actions.
Hope your last partner is hidden well otherwise you might just aswell concede now.
Of COURSE you said the bolded. You said it EoD, you scumread me for that exact reason lol.
I am scumhunting all game long, I have found you. You're probably scum with Rels. There's no way you're town at this point anymore, you are mis-representing what I say, you are putting together thread sentiment quotes on literally one single thing.
So if everyone agrees my eod was scummy, ok fine, I guess it wasn't the smartest move to make what I did then. Nevertheless the intention behind what I did was to confirm you. I never planned to not lynch Palmar, all I did was switching to Rels to check specifically your reaction.
The fact that five people (counting your contextless quotes) jump on that gives me two conclusions: a) what I did can very well be done from town perspective b) what I did can very well be done from scum perspective
because if EVERYONE agrees on something, then you have scum agreeing on something, too, and in your list is one or more scummers
but hey you know the good news? We agree on Rels flipping scum and we agreed on Palmar being scum, right? So yeah it's kinda confirmed Rels is town because you are scum, Skynx, and all you have going for yourself is a "bus" D1, You sheeped df, it wasn't even your original thought process.
There is literally no way I am scum this game. Every single person in this game wanted or wants to lynch me. That does include scum. You are throwing away a mislynch in a situation where there are no mislynches.
On June 29 2017 22:37 disformation wrote: like some of your points on skynx arent bad, but i still can see his d1 come from town and a bunch of his other posts def. have a town feel to them. i even understand him not wanting to answer your questions, because talking to you is a huge pain in the ass.
On June 29 2017 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't really need to read anything more about it. Basically btdt thinks both Palmar and Skynx are mafia. He thinks Skynx is bussing Palmar and his conclusion is that he switches to Rels to bait Skynx into switching OFF from bussing!
Basically btdt wanted to give Skynx ammo to lynch a non-scumread (or lesser scumread) rather than being fine with Skynx bussing his top scumread. There is no way a townie does that.
I didn't want to bait Skynx into voting Rels. I wanted to see his reaction on me switching.
I expected scum!Skynx to:
1. yell at btdt because "why are you switching off your scumread" 2. potentially switch back to Rels as soon as I went back onto scum!Palmar
Skynx hammering Rels, saving his Palmar buddy who he bussed before would've been the best confirmation to get there. Shame though that apparently, Skynx is scum with Palmar and I just gave him the best excuse to a) push me and b) not push Rels any time soon.
From mafia perspective, my play makes absolutely zero sense. If I were scum, I would be super content in not being around at deadline and let the shennanies pass. I have full information as scum. If Palmar is scum, I'd hope and pray for people hammering Rels, if Rels was scum, I wouldn't switch at all and instead let everything pass as-is, since I have all the reasons in the world to be on Palmar.
If both wagons are town, I could just sit back and let BH do whatever he wants because no matter which wagon is gonna flip, I have a super ez mislynch to push the next day.
There is literally no. NO. way that people read a scummy behaviour into what I did.
My play would maybe be scummy if Rels was scum. I can see that happen. But Rels hasn't flipped, and disfo, the not-fan of unflipped associations, votes with Skynx, the not-giver of reasons, together with rayn, who had a townlean OR ignored me all game long.
This is super fishy and you guys should super realize that.
During NIGHT phase, thread sentiment changes against me, even with Ruxxar joining. It doesn't make sense. If you auto on me without even a counter wagon (and I would recommend Skynx being the fucking counter wagon here), then there's no way you'll gain any valuable information from me flipping not red.
If you quote something and highlight something, the next step to take is "draw a conclusion"
"like some of your points on skynx aren't bad" - but I choose to ignore them because I think that btdt voting Rels, then hammering Palmar is scummy. And I rate that higher than every other point that was raised so far by whoever.
You ignore the Rels wagon at this point You ignore points about Skynx You ignore points that other brought about other players
My play around EoD makes you auto this day on me, without showing willingness to even re-evaluate. Like, you call Skynx out for not explaining his vote on me, for the ninja, and you ignore that he throws another lazy-ass explanation, doesn't even remotely care about what else is going on?
Like, if I flip town, what are you gonna do, Skynx? Lynch Rels? Or what? You should even fucking consider Rels being town because I don't have 100% knowledge of the game but guess who has, yeah right, the guy who is "btdt is scum" since 2 days without any reasons
EPT
