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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2017 13:18 GMT
#5099
Also also i am glad i still have good reads. <3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2017 13:23 GMT
#5102
No. There is no way your claim isn't true. No sane mafia shoots their mislynch #1.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2017 13:34 GMT
#5112
On June 23 2017 22:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 22:24 disformation wrote:
there was a crumb?


I literally made 2 posts roleplaying a wild west headhunter

:D :D :D
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2017 13:47 GMT
#5123
On June 23 2017 22:43 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 22:35 disformation wrote:
you forgot about tw

oh right

but he's all on Palmar and I think that's good

To be honest thats the only good thing i remember.
Also he called me scum so i am okay woth him dying.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2017 13:59 GMT
#5128
On June 23 2017 22:49 disformation wrote:
well tw popping in, throwing out a few reads with 0 regard to thread consent and wasting his vote on whoever he thinks is scum is exactly how i remember him playing in a recent game.
problem is: compared to that game he has was less content/care this game.

I am very terrible at reading him. I always think he is mafia at some point.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2017 14:05 GMT
#5132
On June 23 2017 23:02 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 22:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 23 2017 22:46 ruXxar wrote:
On June 23 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 23 2017 22:44 ruXxar wrote:
as for btdt, I think he's just not reading the game at all.

He's just looking at a score sheet without follwing the game.

I can't trust any of his reads or theories.

Is that coming from the guy who does the weird things that don't make sense all the time ever since D1 happened?

Yeah that's exactly the guy.


Sure, but this is beyond bad:

On June 22 2017 18:48 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 22 2017 08:01 Half the Sky wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 3


Grackaroni (9): ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Chezitwo, beentheredonethat, VayneAuthority, Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand, raynpelikoneet, disformation, Palmar, Eversince
sicklucker (3): disformation, Palmar, Grackaroni, Rels, Skynx, Chezitwo, Grackaroni
Palmar (2): disformation, Grackaroni, disformation, Fecalfeast
VayneAuthority (1): Grackaroni
disformation (0): disformation
Rels (0): sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Skynx
Fecalfeast (0): Tumblewood
Skynx (0): Palmar, Skynx
raynpelikoneet (0): Rels
ruXxar (0): Blazinghand
beentheredonethat (0): disformation

Half the Sky is throwing Grackaroni out of her whiskey bar.


Observations:
1 Pretty much uncontested Grack wagon
2 Votes in hammer range on town: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand
3 Irrelevant votes: raynpelikoneet, Palmar (starting with Rayn as hammer because Fecalfeast was originally part of the Grack wagon)
4 "Counter wagon" votes: Rels, Skynx, Chezitwo
5 Wasted votes: disformation, (Fecalfeast)

re: 1)

Having an uncontested wagon where no big discussion is revolving around pretty much means it's a town wagon. However, I think there was actually a lot of discussion in the past day, especially started by Rels. I am town reading Rels right now; he came out of the lurker shadows to actually talk. I also like his fighting with rayn and I'm super worried about rayn not being the town super hero that pushes people around. So Rels up, rayn down, although I gotta admit I haven't looked too deeply into the fight these two have.

My association between Skynx and Grack was obviously wrong. Nevertheless I find it super suspicious that Skynx chimed in, threw around some shade, later on pissed off, let the Grack lynch happen without really putting in work to push the sicklucker lynch. I am sure that there is scum on the Grack wagon and I am fairly certain that not all scummers are on that wagon; and Skynx' vote feels off. We have two mislynches as someone pointed out; so a vig shot (if available) gets more and more risky - but Skynx is a decent target. But I'm super super super afraid here.

Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince (voted super late each time)
Town should be: disformation (mehhhhhhhh, and only if he doesn't die this night lol, and town rage), Chezitwo (mainly based on D2), Rels (based on D3)
Meh: Palmar, Tumblewood, Blazinghand, ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority, sicklucker, rayn

I hope I didn't forget anyone.

re: 2)

These three players were basically the ones who sealed the Grack lynch: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand. All of them will be moved to the scum pool for that:

Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince, Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand
Town should be: disformation, Chezitwo, Rels
Meh: Palmar, ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority, rayn

So without further ado, they come into the scum pool.

re: 3)

Same as 2), can just be scum chiming in.

Scum pool: Skynx, Eversince, Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand, Palmar, rayn
Town should be: disformation, Chezitwo, Rels
Meh: ruxxar, Fecalfeast, VayneAuthority

re: 4)

Rels pushing sicklucker matches what he did all D2. I don't think that this is scum pushing a second town wagon here. So if Rels would be scum, then sicklucker would most likely also be scum and we have a bus attempt to get town cred, which IMHO is a rather bad and useless bus because there's no way Rels gains towncred from this vote if sicklucker flips scum at any point. Skynx' vote on the other hand isn't as solid als Rels' vote. He not voting Grack (although he did say something about voting Grack, or am I wrong there?) is actually scum indicative here as he pretty much wasted his vote, putting it on unflipped instead of townflip. I'm certain Skynx is scum.

Chezitwo voting sicklucker - mehhhhhhhhhhhhh. Given how super eager he was to lynch Xata over Xata's cop claim, I don't know why he voted sicklucker here and kinda wasted his vote. I need to check the context of that vote as well as the reasoning. NAI imho but I'm not too sure. I don't have too many townreads so I'll keep him on the list "just cause" but I am indeed a bit paranoid.

re: 5) The only thing that comes to my mind is that disfo said early D3 that he'd end up voting Grackaroni anyways. Not sure what to make out of that but it striked me as weird.


That's actually a decent piece of work which is flawed. And so we talked about it. There is that slight difference in "hey, that's false, let's discuss" and "this is a piece of shit"


Well it didn't seem like you would change your mind when three people told you that it was incorrect:

Show nested quote +
On June 22 2017 19:06 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 22 2017 18:55 Blazinghand wrote:
I was the hammer. Rayn made in hammering Impoasbkle. Everything else is window dressing. TW and SL didn't hammer. I did. Get the facts straight


"votes in hammer range on town: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand"
Tumblewood provided the hammer, sicklucker lifted it, you banged it on the table.

I think I have my facts straight here and you're trying to misrepresent my case. Why do you do this?


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On June 22 2017 21:00 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 22 2017 20:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 22 2017 19:06 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 22 2017 18:55 Blazinghand wrote:
I was the hammer. Rayn made in hammering Impoasbkle. Everything else is window dressing. TW and SL didn't hammer. I did. Get the facts straight


"votes in hammer range on town: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand"
Tumblewood provided the hammer, sicklucker lifted it, you banged it on the table.

I think I have my facts straight here and you're trying to misrepresent my case. Why do you do this?

You don't have your facts straight.

Take my face and ram it onto how it is correctly as town!rayn would do it

and also call me bad as town!rayn would


Show nested quote +
On June 22 2017 23:18 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 22 2017 23:15 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 23:09 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 22 2017 21:57 ruXxar wrote:
On June 22 2017 21:00 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 22 2017 20:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 22 2017 19:06 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 22 2017 18:55 Blazinghand wrote:
I was the hammer. Rayn made in hammering Impoasbkle. Everything else is window dressing. TW and SL didn't hammer. I did. Get the facts straight


"votes in hammer range on town: Tumblewood, sicklucker, Blazinghand"
Tumblewood provided the hammer, sicklucker lifted it, you banged it on the table.

I think I have my facts straight here and you're trying to misrepresent my case. Why do you do this?

You don't have your facts straight.

Take my face and ram it onto how it is correctly as town!rayn would do it

and also call me bad as town!rayn would


Rayn and BH are right. You are misrepresenting how the voting went down, and final vote count is absolutely not represenatitve of what the situation looked like.

Therefore your analysis is pretty much void.

The ones who put the deciding votes on a wagon are hammer votes. This is what I am analyzing. And I put all three of them into possible scum range. Do you disagree?


The hammer votes was BH and Rayn.

Anyone who was reading the thread at the time can confirm that.

Well then BH

Who's all defensive about himself voting Grack, like "I did it and I stand by having done so" and who's pointing to himself as being the hammer. Is that scum being aware of how bad he looks who's trying to bring up points before town can bring it up?


Dude you really think that makes him mafia?
Because i think the opposite. He is pushing insane shit and basically begging to be lynched. Thats not how mafia plays. Idk if you have played with him before but thats always how btdt gets lynched.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2017 14:36 GMT
#5146
On June 23 2017 23:30 ruXxar wrote:
That reminds me, I actually want to put rayn on my town pile for his genuine reaction to palmars bullshit read:

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 17:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.

Wow Palmar.....
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 16:50 ruXxar wrote:
On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.
No way.

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 16:42 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.

hahaha

Thats a terrible reason to townread me but tell me why i can be mafia in your opinion?

Or disformation?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2017 15:11 GMT
#5166
On June 23 2017 23:46 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 23 2017 23:30 ruXxar wrote:
That reminds me, I actually want to put rayn on my town pile for his genuine reaction to palmars bullshit read:

On June 16 2017 17:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.

Wow Palmar.....
On June 16 2017 16:50 ruXxar wrote:
On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.
No way.

On June 16 2017 16:42 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.

hahaha

Thats a terrible reason to townread me but tell me why i can be mafia in your opinion?

Or disformation?


Reasons why you can be mafia:

Bickering with rels nitpicking over wording of a text about eversince.
Ganging up on rels together with BH looked real suspicious.
Claiming SL was town and defending him during EOD made me think you three were possible scum team, since you all were deadset on lynching Rels.

After SL flipped, that theory pretty much fell through.

Also calling the two wagons town v town seemed like a TMI moment.




I always nitpick because thats how you find mafia.
Dont blame BH ganging up on Rels WITH me on me. Because i cant decide what BH does AFTER ME.
Your third point is invalid as you said.
I did that after grack flipped. I genuinely though grack is mafia and sl is town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2017 15:13 GMT
#5170
What the fucking fuck...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2017 15:14 GMT
#5172
On June 24 2017 00:11 Chezitwo wrote:
When did SL state his tumble read then? Because if he was 100 % sure TW is town because he thought I am mafia then Tumblewood is mafia.

Wait you and Tumble are same if eversince is town? Am i getting this right?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2017 15:17 GMT
#5179
On June 24 2017 00:15 Chezitwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2017 00:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 24 2017 00:11 Chezitwo wrote:
When did SL state his tumble read then? Because if he was 100 % sure TW is town because he thought I am mafia then Tumblewood is mafia.

Wait you and Tumble are same if eversince is town? Am i getting this right?

I understood it like SL thought Tumble is town and I am mafia. Which would indicate a different check.

That doesnt make any sense. If he thinks you are toen strongly why doesnt he push tumble d3?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2017 15:18 GMT
#5181
On June 24 2017 00:17 disformation wrote:
i am actually hoping one of the claims is fake.
cause as it stands we had 2 investigatives hardcore investigating the 3rd investigative, who in turn didnt properly crumb his stuff.

Wait who have claimed besides es and va?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2017 15:19 GMT
#5183
On June 24 2017 00:18 Chezitwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2017 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 24 2017 00:15 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 24 2017 00:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 24 2017 00:11 Chezitwo wrote:
When did SL state his tumble read then? Because if he was 100 % sure TW is town because he thought I am mafia then Tumblewood is mafia.

Wait you and Tumble are same if eversince is town? Am i getting this right?

I understood it like SL thought Tumble is town and I am mafia. Which would indicate a different check.

That doesnt make any sense. If he thinks you are toen strongly why doesnt he push tumble d3?

SL thought I am mafia all game. Because of marvs absence.

And he called tw town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2017 15:21 GMT
#5188
##vote tumblewood
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2017 15:21 GMT
#5189
On June 24 2017 00:20 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2017 00:19 Eversince wrote:
On June 24 2017 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 24 2017 00:18 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 24 2017 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 24 2017 00:15 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 24 2017 00:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 24 2017 00:11 Chezitwo wrote:
When did SL state his tumble read then? Because if he was 100 % sure TW is town because he thought I am mafia then Tumblewood is mafia.

Wait you and Tumble are same if eversince is town? Am i getting this right?

I understood it like SL thought Tumble is town and I am mafia. Which would indicate a different check.

That doesnt make any sense. If he thinks you are toen strongly why doesnt he push tumble d3?

SL thought I am mafia all game. Because of marvs absence.

And he called tw town?


He put TW as 100% town lock.

quotes.

You presented it already.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2017 15:24 GMT
#5192
On June 24 2017 00:22 disformation wrote:
thats it?

Yes he calls one of his checks town and one scum.
Assuming ES is town one of them is mafia or miller and i dont think chez is scum, and one miller has flipped.

This is not lylo right?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2017 16:11 GMT
#5228
Wow its actually kita????
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2017 16:12 GMT
#5231
On June 24 2017 01:11 Rels wrote:
So. Tumble and Chez got back as different alignemnts. A miller has flipped. That means that mechanically speaking:

It's very, very unlikely they're both town. It would mean unlikely stuff like: a second milller, or a framer that offensively framed Chez, when usually framer protects the team.

It's highly likely one of them is scum.

It's kiiiinda possible that both are scum: if one of them is GF, or if they have a framer who defensively framed Chez. But much less likely than much one of them.

Youre making about -8% sense here.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2017 16:14 GMT
#5232
On June 24 2017 01:12 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2017 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wow its actually kita????

very likely I think, from the logic he uses + I totally fooled him in at least one game, the resistance game we played together

Why the fooling part?
What does that have to do with anything?

If youre town stop calling me mafia and stop being dumb.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2017 16:15 GMT
#5234
Chez youre actually kitaman? Please say if you are.
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