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On June 23 2017 06:01 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 00:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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After my vote on Grackaroni i had the thought at some point that he is actually town because of the people (outside you and disformation) voting for sicklucker didn't give any shits about the lynch at all.
[...] lol. fucking lol
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So what, is the premise that the last minute switches onto Grack from SL an attempt by scum to save SL?
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On June 23 2017 06:09 Chezitwo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 06:07 Blazinghand wrote:
So what, is the premise that the last minute switches onto Grack from SL an attempt by scum to save SL? The problem with this logic is gracks behaviour which could be interpreted as mafia giving up. Which sucks a lot because otherwise the lynch might have been more contested in the end.
hmm, on the other hand it's possible scum got onto the grack wagon in the middle as well. This would allow them to increase the wagon size and protect SL (operating on the SL-as-scum theory) without outing themselves hard by diving on the end to save SL.
Alternatively, if we think that town ALSO had motivation to jump on Grack at the end, it's plausible that some scum also snuck in with town
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On June 23 2017 06:14 Chezitwo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 06:13 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 06:09 Chezitwo wrote:On June 23 2017 06:07 Blazinghand wrote:
So what, is the premise that the last minute switches onto Grack from SL an attempt by scum to save SL? The problem with this logic is gracks behaviour which could be interpreted as mafia giving up. Which sucks a lot because otherwise the lynch might have been more contested in the end. hmm, on the other hand it's possible scum got onto the grack wagon in the middle as well. This would allow them to increase the wagon size and protect SL (operating on the SL-as-scum theory) without outing themselves hard by diving on the end to save SL. Alternatively, if we think that town ALSO had motivation to jump on Grack at the end, it's plausible that some scum also snuck in with town Thank you captain obvious.
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What was Ruxxar's case against grack and why was it bad
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On June 23 2017 06:15 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 06:13 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 06:09 Chezitwo wrote:On June 23 2017 06:07 Blazinghand wrote:
So what, is the premise that the last minute switches onto Grack from SL an attempt by scum to save SL? The problem with this logic is gracks behaviour which could be interpreted as mafia giving up. Which sucks a lot because otherwise the lynch might have been more contested in the end. hmm, on the other hand it's possible scum got onto the grack wagon in the middle as well. This would allow them to increase the wagon size and protect SL (operating on the SL-as-scum theory) without outing themselves hard by diving on the end to save SL. Alternatively, if we think that town ALSO had motivation to jump on Grack at the end, it's plausible that some scum also snuck in with town mm looks like we can't get any useful info from that. let's talk about it for 30 more pages.
in my opinion we actually can. all we have to do is look at people's motivations and thought procceses and see if they diverge from what would make sense for a townie
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On June 23 2017 06:16 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2017 21:07 ruXxar wrote:The grack case posted from earlier + Show Spoiler +On June 18 2017 21:39 Vivax wrote:
Since you seem bored.
Can you explain why you think Grack is mafia? Sure! Let's start with the obvious: 1) He hammers the town lynch. On June 16 2017 07:47 Grackaroni wrote:
##Vote: Annul At the point of this vote, the votes are 5 on annul, 5 on xatalos. Grackaroni pushes it over the edge with this vote to 6-5 in favor of annul. 2) He doesn't try to solve the game. How many scum reads did he have the whole game? Let's see: DF: On June 15 2017 04:10 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 03:57 darthfoley wrote:On June 15 2017 03:57 Grackaroni wrote:On June 15 2017 03:49 disformation wrote:@xata: ruxxar gave his reason to vote koshi later on. On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.
##vote koshi Care to elaborate? Oh also ##vote ruxxar Sure. This post: On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.
Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too. btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game. You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense. And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta. I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself. Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground. but as fefe pointed out: On June 15 2017 02:40 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.
##vote koshi Care to elaborate? Oh also ##vote ruxxar Sure. This post: On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.
Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too. btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game. You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense. And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta. I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself. Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground. I actually like this explanation. Sorta wish you said this instead of just 'read Koshi's filter decided he's mafia' as now I'm suspicious you went back to read his filter after my post to find a post that is suspect. For the second part: People generally think this is scummy and it's not. It just generates suspicion because people don't like to see unjustified reads. Mafia won't ever just carelessly throw out a scum read without giving any thought about how they are going to defend it unless they are under some kind of heavy pressure to produce a read. Also I liked Ruxxar's reasoning for his Koshi vote. who do you think is scum? I'm kinda looking at you tbh. On June 15 2017 04:38 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 04:27 darthfoley wrote:On June 15 2017 04:10 Grackaroni wrote:On June 15 2017 03:57 darthfoley wrote:On June 15 2017 03:57 Grackaroni wrote:On June 15 2017 03:49 disformation wrote:@xata: ruxxar gave his reason to vote koshi later on. On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.
##vote koshi Care to elaborate? Oh also ##vote ruxxar Sure. This post: On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.
Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too. btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game. You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense. And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta. I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself. Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground. but as fefe pointed out: On June 15 2017 02:40 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 02:32 ruXxar wrote:On June 15 2017 02:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote:
I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.
##vote koshi Care to elaborate? Oh also ##vote ruxxar Sure. This post: On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.
Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too. btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game. You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense. And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta. I don't like this statement. Comparing his own play to what an expected "mafia meta" is as a defense and validation of his own play seems like he's way too concious of how he's trying to project himself. Add that on top of all his waffling reads between scum/town, and non-commital it makes it seem to me like he's trying to thread a golden middleground. I actually like this explanation. Sorta wish you said this instead of just 'read Koshi's filter decided he's mafia' as now I'm suspicious you went back to read his filter after my post to find a post that is suspect. For the second part: People generally think this is scummy and it's not. It just generates suspicion because people don't like to see unjustified reads. Mafia won't ever just carelessly throw out a scum read without giving any thought about how they are going to defend it unless they are under some kind of heavy pressure to produce a read. Also I liked Ruxxar's reasoning for his Koshi vote. who do you think is scum? I'm kinda looking at you tbh. Look at me as much as you like, but why? I'm mostly just looking for someone kinda in the middle blending in. Disfo: On June 15 2017 07:36 Grackaroni wrote:
I like Rayn too though. And I'm ok with a Disfo lynch. HF: On June 16 2017 07:32 Grackaroni wrote:
Holy flare seems like a very good vote. He's being ridiculously over the top trying to push this SL lynch.
I haven't liked either of his Vivax/Koshi pushes. And he dragged the Vivax one out for the hell of it. On June 16 2017 07:10 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 06:58 annul wrote:
not at all. i am 1 switch away from majority. with the tiebreaker being what it is, i have no choice.
i WANT to vote for koshi/ruxxar since they are both mafia and either is a fine kill. but alas. Annul seems like an ok lynch to me. I dislike that he doesn't waver at all in his Koshi read after 10 pages of filter. It would be worthwhile to check if he tends to be very confident in his reads as town, because his are still based on things from the early game. I'm on my phone on a train, and the internet is not great. Palmar: On June 19 2017 03:36 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2017 03:36 Palmar wrote:
Ill figure out why we're all so happy together tomorrow Where've you been PALMAR? Scummy scum scum. "I'm ok with". "Seems like". There's 0 commitment to anything here. Just superficial non-sense without any substance. So obviously he followed up and actually tried to push his scum reads? Nope. Well, at least he voted for his scum reads? Nope. It's like a total non-commitment to any of his "reads" and just screams "I'm just trying to blend in". And thats the total effort he's put into scumhunting the whole game.
It's not an amazing case. I think I may have even reacted to it with some amount of increduility. what was rayn's reaction to it?
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Rels is it just your assumption that anyone who thinks that your action there was scummy, must automatically be scummy? is this literaly OMGUS?
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is Palmar still in this game lol
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On June 23 2017 06:45 disformation wrote:common. oneg even updated the playerlist earlier...
I know the answer is "yes" I was making a rhetorical joking statement about his level of activity
jesus fuck
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sorry about the profanity in the last post. EBWOP:
On June 23 2017 07:03 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 06:45 disformation wrote:On June 23 2017 06:43 Blazinghand wrote:
is Palmar still in this game lol common. oneg even updated the playerlist earlier... I know the answer is "yes" I was making a rhetorical joking statement about his level of activity sweet mother of mercy
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he's trying to indicate how sure he is
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On June 23 2017 07:40 ruXxar wrote:
Potential mafia team is SL, Rayn, BH
If you think Rayn and I acted to save SL from the lynch and kill Grack this is a plausible belief. A wrong one, yes, but a plausible one, and I see how you came to hold it.
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I'm not really sure how to argue against this, hmm. Like this would have been a lot easier if Grack flipped scum like he should have. This is just a bad coincidence for me.
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he definitely had a result after 2 days, what's the crumb
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On June 23 2017 08:06 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:05 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 23 2017 08:04 ruXxar wrote:
I'm going to guess that he checked me, that's why he was so certain I was town. Parity cop doesn't learn alignments What does it do then?
It compares two people's alignments.
Night 1: Check Adam, no result yet
Night 2: Check Bob, and you get the result "same alignment as adam" or "different alignment than adam"
So if Adam and Bob are both scum, you get "same"
if they are both town, you get "same"
if one is town and one is scum, you get "different"
Sicklucker was almost certainly rolecopped because he was high on the lynch list today, doesn't make ssense for mafia to shoot him. He probably posted something near the start of D3 telling us what his result was if we look back on it. a breadcrumb for us to follow
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On June 23 2017 08:10 ruXxar wrote:
Are parity cops given a check at the start of the game?
As in, when night 1 rolls arounds, to they pick their 1st or 2nd target?
On night 1, they pick their first target, and get NO result.
on night 2, they pick their second target, and get ONE result.
Sicklucker died with ONE result.
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SickLucker's result, as far as I can tell, is this:
FecalFeast and Chezitwo are the same alignment
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