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On June 20 2017 18:37 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2017 18:32 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 20 2017 18:22 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 20 2017 17:02 disformation wrote:On June 20 2017 16:54 beentheredonethat wrote:
My disfo senses are tingling
How is he who is close to conftown not dead geez. i wonder which scummer woudlnt shoot me. On June 14 2017 22:41 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 14 2017 22:38 disformation wrote:On June 14 2017 22:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
Disfo, why buddy so hard with HF from the get-go? Given you're behaviour, you're super confident he's town.
I townread him currently, too, so does Koshi. w00t w00t I WISH I was super confident he's town. =D Not gonna lie: I like playing with HF and it would be cool to have a mindmeld over that koshi thing. But I also mentioned that I feel like a bunch of ppl are buddying in my direction so I am a bit paranoid. I love buddying up to you when I'm scum because you're super easy to buddy. Like "be nice to disfo and he'll either townread you or give you 1000000 chances to justify yourself". You're not confident about your reads. You're super good at establishing yourself as town but you're not so good at scumhunting. While I do suck at both :D =p And what's your exact point hey disfo what was the purpose of your post when you yourself gave answers to your question? you know besides throwing shade at me
are you dumb?
You quoted a post of mine where I say several things that are not connected to each other. You put them in context of the initially quoted post. Then, you decline to explain shit?
Who's throwing shade here?
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I love how you're all like "wtf is this" and you're not even considering to invest two minutes.
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On June 20 2017 18:01 disformation wrote:
scum!btdt also ml'ed a town!koshi in another game d1.
throwing shade
a definition
by disformation
then, blame btdt for throwing shade
"Hey, btdt, you mislynched Koshi D1 in a game where everythign was different from this game but I'll still bring it up because you already look scummy and it fits the narrative of scum!btdt. Also, you're throwing shade at me, you beggar!"
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On June 20 2017 18:40 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2017 18:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
I love how you're all like "wtf is this" and you're not even considering to invest two minutes. says the guy who is refusing to read my filter.
I am not refusing to read it
I am saying it's garbage. Super hard to read. And it doesn't fit your shitty "I AM ALL OVER THE PLACE TOWNFORMATION" narrative because it's cluttered, full of oneliners and to really read it, I'd have to go back and read probably 100 pages in total.
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On June 20 2017 18:42 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2017 18:41 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 20 2017 18:01 disformation wrote:
scum!btdt also ml'ed a town!koshi in another game d1. throwing shade a definition by disformation then, blame btdt for throwing shade "Hey, btdt, you mislynched Koshi D1 in a game where everythign was different from this game but I'll still bring it up because you already look scummy and it fits the narrative of scum!btdt. Also, you're throwing shade at me, you beggar!" okay. i agree this one was weak af and very annecdotal. or however you spell that.
Ok so you quote a post where I say "hey, buddying up with disfo is super easy", then you STILL decline to explain context or intention or conclusion of that quote, you then proceed to say "hey ok that's weak", throw some tears in with "I'M NEVER GONNA PLAY WITH YOU AGAIN" all the while voting me over Grack?
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On June 20 2017 18:43 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2017 18:42 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 20 2017 18:40 disformation wrote:On June 20 2017 18:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
I love how you're all like "wtf is this" and you're not even considering to invest two minutes. says the guy who is refusing to read my filter. I am not refusing to read it I am saying it's garbage. Super hard to read. And it doesn't fit your shitty "I AM ALL OVER THE PLACE TOWNFORMATION" narrative because it's cluttered, full of oneliners and to really read it, I'd have to go back and read probably 100 pages in total. okay, you are 100% scum trying to piss me off. i am not unvoting you ever.
Wow. I am not trying to piss you off. You are pissing me off. You demand a town read from me WHILE you say "hey, btdt, you're scum".
You say "hey, voting btdt", then say "ahhh I'll end up on Grack anyways" WHAT THE FUCK is that vote for then? And then you say "uhhh never unvoting" how cheap is that
you're never town here disfo
town disfo would've asked for a modkill or shit, scum disfo just got the cheap excuse for not voting his Grack teammate
kudos to Xata for the super bus check on disfo
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lynching Grack. If disfo alive next night, lynching disfo. ezpz.
##vote Grackaroni
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On June 20 2017 18:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
btdt why is disformation mafia?
He spent the last 2-3 pages with painting a beautiful "btdt is scum" narrative, culminating in a "NEVER UNVOTE HERE" fake-rage so he doesn't have to end up on Grack. Vivax was hardcore on Grack and was probably killed because of that, also he was townreading me, so I assume scum!disformation wanted to start a btdt wagon with the town cred he gained from the xata flip (bla fake red check bla).
Cherry on the cake: scum killed always into the super active people yet 22-page-filter-disformation survived for some reason.
it's like a puzzle, it all goes together. disfo wasn't realler eager to push me on my hard defense on xata during d2, he left this to chez and df (which makes chez probably town btw) and while disfo feels active, he's not really doing much. Even starting the day with that weird "I have no scumreads" post but then suddenly locked grack locked btdt?
I think that's as solid as it gets but a grack flip would kinda confirm that lynch avert attempt
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On June 20 2017 18:49 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2017 18:47 disformation wrote:On June 20 2017 18:45 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 20 2017 18:43 disformation wrote:On June 20 2017 18:42 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 20 2017 18:40 disformation wrote:On June 20 2017 18:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
I love how you're all like "wtf is this" and you're not even considering to invest two minutes. says the guy who is refusing to read my filter. I am not refusing to read it I am saying it's garbage. Super hard to read. And it doesn't fit your shitty "I AM ALL OVER THE PLACE TOWNFORMATION" narrative because it's cluttered, full of oneliners and to really read it, I'd have to go back and read probably 100 pages in total. okay, you are 100% scum trying to piss me off. i am not unvoting you ever. Wow. I am not trying to piss you off. You are pissing me off. You demand a town read from me WHILE you say "hey, btdt, you're scum". You say "hey, voting btdt", then say "ahhh I'll end up on Grack anyways" WHAT THE FUCK is that vote for then? And then you say "uhhh never unvoting" how cheap is that you're never town here disfo town disfo would've asked for a modkill or shit, scum disfo just got the cheap excuse for not voting his Grack teammatekudos to Xata for the super bus check on disfo are. you. fucking. kidding. me? so you are trying to tell me you are not trying to tell me and then you post this?
I am not trying to tilt you. My tone is aggressive, yes, but it has been all game. I am just putting pressure on you and that's my way to do it, compare to the newbie game if you want to (note: it's over now so it's allowed).
I do not have the intention to tilt you. I just think you're not town.
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On June 20 2017 18:54 disformation wrote:
are you an idiot?
No.
Can you please leave the thread for an hour or so, then come back all calm and reflect on what I said about you? "wtf", "are you an idiot?" etc. is not a good defense.
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On June 20 2017 18:54 disformation wrote:
lunch. hope ill calm down.
Good call. If you're not calmed down, leave. If you're mad town, no value for town is given, if you're scum, who the fuck cares about you shitting up the thread anyways.
So come back when you're calm.
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On June 20 2017 18:55 disformation wrote:
hur dur only person to trying really hard to figure out the game obv scum hur dur
seriously i hate playing with you
LOL
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Piece #1: The Claim Belief.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 14 2017 18:25 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 18:21 sicklucker wrote:
alright boys im hard claiming cop with a red check on eversince. why did you decide to check eversince? On June 14 2017 18:26 disformation wrote:
and why would you claim so early in the day?
that kinda ruins the discussion if you make the day auto this early. When sicklucker claimed cop, disformation jumped right on it. That bothered me D1 already but I kinda forgot it and I was on Koshi anyways. Believing a claim is not mafia indicative per se. Nor is asking for "why did you check this very person". But only a minute later, he posts questions that indicate his doubts. He's not fully buying it, he's doubting the logic because sicklucker's claim behaviour is weird. Yet, he still trys to make it seem he's believing the claim. I think sicklucker randomly hit scum with his fake claim. Eversince is disformation's scum buddy and disfo panicked for a moment, believing that the claim was genuine. He is in the end talking about his doubts: On June 14 2017 18:32 disformation wrote:
hmmm... cop with a random check at the start of the game?
hmmmmmmmmm... like dunno. cop with a random green check at the start of the game doesnt sound too far fetched imo.
cop with a red at the very start of the game is really nasty for scum. esp. since pre game it was kinda implied that a lot of ppl wanted "weaker" and less swingy power roles.
doesnt help that the check is on someone who has a history of not showing up or afking a bunch. This sentence reads already like "hey, I don't believe that". The relief is in there tonally, the relief that noone is picking up on the claim and the realization that it's most likely fake anyway. And, finally, the proof: On June 14 2017 18:41 disformation wrote:eh. he actually kinda announced his plan: Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 18:12 sicklucker wrote:
step 1 piss people off.
step 2 get reads
tlmafia meta carry on then. =D This is one of the very few, if not only times where disformation uses the "=D" smiley to express maximum happiness. Given he's every now and then in doubt of sicklucker, there's no real emotional reason to be found except relief that the claim is fake - because, I repeat, Eversince is most likely scum for real.
Piece #2: Koshi.
+ Show Spoiler +This is the post that striked me weird: On June 14 2017 18:44 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 18:29 Palmar wrote:On June 14 2017 18:27 Xatalos wrote:On June 14 2017 18:09 Holyflare wrote:On June 14 2017 17:49 Koshi wrote:
Bwaaaaaaaaa. Almost always I make a "first confirmed town post + I add my gameplan" Yeh so now you didn't make one and no game plan. 3P doesn't have a game plan because they dunno who to side with yet. Aka you are 3p. Aka lynch koshbagmcgoo. Best case 2017 :D I believe in this case. y u no vote koshi then? or try to convince ppl to vote koshi? Contrary to the claim where he was super interested in WHY EVERSINCE?!, he doesn't even care about "why Koshi". Although HF's reasoning behind "Koshi 3p" isn't really great, it's not even easy to read or understand. Yet disfo is like "uhh, Koshi push? I'm totes fine with that, go ahead Palmar". Koshi flipped town N1 - and the ease with which disformation would let pushes on Koshi happen just speaks volume about how confident and happy he is with the state of the game at this point. On June 14 2017 18:48 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 18:45 Holyflare wrote:On June 14 2017 18:19 disformation wrote:
@HF: cant tell if serious or not. xD
Do/did you also dislike his opener for similar reasons or what? The exact reason you stated. Lynch Koshfacemc3Pface. dammit. is that a buddying/pocketing attempt or did we seriously have a mindmeld about koshis random meh throwaway oneliner? A mindmeld with HF is claimed of whom disfo knows he's town. Note how disfo's vote is on Koshi, he's only jumping on the Xata wagon as #4, which is like the most convenient spot to be in as scum because a) it gives you towncred because you're helping the wagon get out of the rather low volume 2-3 vote state and b) it's not the hammer vote so while you gain towncred, you're not the scum hammer. And, whoops, he's sitting there conveniently, letting the annul wagon happen. On June 14 2017 18:55 disformation wrote:
following my gut.
voting koshi.
=D Again, the "=D" smiley. Look how happy he is. He knows Koshi's town, and even better, he has HF (and btdt) who are pushing the Koshi wagon already so he can lean back and comment on stuff without really committing to anything. He drops some light-hearted reads which feel super random and forced. Also: On June 14 2017 21:30 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 21:28 annul wrote:On June 14 2017 21:14 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 14 2017 20:58 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 14 2017 20:55 annul wrote:On June 14 2017 20:50 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 14 2017 20:50 annul wrote:On June 14 2017 17:53 disformation wrote:
@koshi: if you are SK 1v1 me at night! soft veteran claim? blue hunting? is it really hunting if someone uses a line like that Why ignore the hf vs. rayn because koshi thing though? hey annul who says i am ignoring it? commenting on A does not equal ignoring B. well you currently have 0 posts on B? maybe post something about B? =D Oh look, again the smiley, again while he's scumreading a townie. That's confidence scumformation right there, uhhyeah baby.
Piece #3: rayn
+ Show Spoiler +On June 14 2017 21:33 disformation wrote:
under scrutiny is a good wording for where rayn is at. I would absolutely love to quote some posts now where disformation follows up on this. But there aren't any. Takes a while when he talks to rayn, and it's not in the way you'd expect someone to talk to someone who's under scrutiny: On June 15 2017 16:29 disformation wrote:good morning everyone. @rayn: lemme explain the palmar thing: Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 18:44 disformation wrote:On June 14 2017 18:29 Palmar wrote:On June 14 2017 18:27 Xatalos wrote:On June 14 2017 18:09 Holyflare wrote:On June 14 2017 17:49 Koshi wrote:
Bwaaaaaaaaa. Almost always I make a "first confirmed town post + I add my gameplan" Yeh so now you didn't make one and no game plan. 3P doesn't have a game plan because they dunno who to side with yet. Aka you are 3p. Aka lynch koshbagmcgoo. Best case 2017 :D I believe in this case. y u no vote koshi then? or try to convince ppl to vote koshi? Palmar never answers the question. Koshis vote reminded me of that. "Hey you, I think you're scum, you're under scrutiny - let me explain to you something and then I'll just get off and not talk to you for a while" Super cheap.
Piece #4: Eversince
+ Show Spoiler +Do you guys remember how disfo was wondering why eversince was checked? It's #1. Look at the first time he drops a bit of a comment about her: On June 15 2017 05:17 disformation wrote:think i am getting an headache. i am not sure I like hf's post on koshi. the case one. i feel like hf is overdramatizing some points. on the other hand i am not sure i like kohsis response either. Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 04:41 Eversince wrote:On June 15 2017 04:21 Koshi wrote:
and you are town. There is no way you keep kicking somebody you know is not mafia. Assuming your town why would this be? Even if you're 3p I'm not sure how you'd come to that conclusion. That is entirely what mafia would do. It's the only option they have. They know who is not mafia so kicking not mafia is their only option to win. Kind of in their win-con. This is causing me to tin foil a lot and I was trying to wait on a response before I mentioned it. HF pushing hard on you, having no real problem with lynching Rayn, pocketing? easy 'town reads' (after reading up I suspect if I had been around last night alls I would needed to do would have been pop in, vote you, chat a bit and got labeled town ez for at least this cycle.) This is all town motivated in your mind? Commence fight/kill off the 3p Koshi, engage bonus shit fight with Rayn, enjoy town chaos from glorious golden throne as city burns. The last half of my scenario hasn't happened yet. But I would be lying if the thought hasn't crossed my mind. But you're an easy target because you do produce weak reads. You haven't got anyone aside from Palmar? as a possible mafia. And you'd rather quit and get lynched than play. I don't think you're mafia. So that would make you martyr town or 3p. One might be good/bad for town. The prior is only ever bad for town. But it's easy to see why you're being pushed. this post is fairly overexplainy and hard to follow in general. can you break it down into a core message and write what you wanted to say in like 2 sentences? This is scummy. This is as scummy as it gets at this point, yet disformation is not drawing that conclusion. He doesn't follow up, again, though - BUT: he's on Vivax after all: On June 15 2017 17:43 disformation wrote:
most plausible would be that he skimmed the big wordy complicated post of her and misread?
but i also dont see where she supposedly copied your stuff on rayn.
she just says that you are cool with lynching/shitfighting rayn Vivax is pressuring Eversince (note: Vivax is dead) at that point and disformation is not directly defending Eversince BUT he is clearly dismissing what Vivax said. He doesn't clearly say "hey, that's wrong, ES is town and you're reasoning is flawed", no, instead he tries to soft defend her a bit. Why is that? Super scummy. He even goes on to ask others (Palmar) about Vivax (note, NOT Eversince!) On June 15 2017 17:46 disformation wrote:
@palmar:
can you explain your 100% vivi townread? Finally, some words about Eversince: On June 15 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:
i think her post doesnt make it 100% clear if she only copied the case against rayn or if she thinks its true. she kinda states it as a fact that rayn defended koshi, but i dont think it is clear if she does that because that is part of the case, or if she thinks it is true.
so yeah she can have copied that from hf. cause that is basically the case.
i think that post is pretty much nai. So here's what happens: 1. Rayn does something 2. ES agrees/re-states what rayn said 3. Gets called out and/or scumread for it 4. doesn't react (isn't in thread?) 5. Disfo keeps defending her, throwing shade on Vivax. He rescinds his defense later on though, when HF is on it and thread in general seems to be so: On June 15 2017 18:28 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 18:24 Vivax wrote:On June 15 2017 18:15 disformation wrote:
yes, but she formed/posted her own opinion on that. before you called her out. Ummm no? On June 13 2017 07:55 Eversince wrote:
/in
Times killed my last attempt at playing. Round 2 time! On June 15 2017 03:23 Eversince wrote:On June 15 2017 03:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
I forgot rayn was in this game lol what were the points against him? He made 1 sentence in 1 post defending Koshi. The issue is he said he didn't think HF/Disform's arguements made Koshi mafia. HF/Disform never claimed that but cased him as 3p. ^ post I replied to oh wait. i think i missed that post from you: Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 03:26 Vivax wrote:On June 15 2017 03:23 Eversince wrote:On June 15 2017 03:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
I forgot rayn was in this game lol what were the points against him? He made 1 sentence in 1 post defending Koshi. The issue is he said he didn't think HF/Disform's arguements made Koshi mafia. HF/Disform never claimed that but cased him as 3p. Already pointed out as being a misrep by HF. Disagreeing on a read doesn't mean I'm defending said person, it just means I'm not going to vote that person for said reasons. And the mafia/3p thingy is just a bad argument from the get go. Rayn is mafia cause he doesn't put a /3p when he says that the reasons don't make Koshi mafia/3p? Cmon her own opinion on that came later in: Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 04:41 Eversince wrote:On June 15 2017 04:21 Koshi wrote:
and you are town. There is no way you keep kicking somebody you know is not mafia. Assuming your town why would this be? Even if you're 3p I'm not sure how you'd come to that conclusion. That is entirely what mafia would do. It's the only option they have. They know who is not mafia so kicking not mafia is their only option to win. Kind of in their win-con. This is causing me to tin foil a lot and I was trying to wait on a response before I mentioned it. HF pushing hard on you, having no real problem with lynching Rayn, pocketing? easy 'town reads' (after reading up I suspect if I had been around last night alls I would needed to do would have been pop in, vote you, chat a bit and got labeled town ez for at least this cycle.) This is all town motivated in your mind? Commence fight/kill off the 3p Koshi, engage bonus shit fight with Rayn, enjoy town chaos from glorious golden throne as city burns. The last half of my scenario hasn't happened yet. But I would be lying if the thought hasn't crossed my mind. But you're an easy target because you do produce weak reads. You haven't got anyone aside from Palmar? as a possible mafia. And you'd rather quit and get lynched than play. I don't think you're mafia. So that would make you martyr town or 3p. One might be good/bad for town. The prior is only ever bad for town. But it's easy to see why you're being pushed. uh. that makes it actually harder to tell if she formed that opinion on her own, or if she kinda was forced to by ppl talking about it etc... hmm... So he basically says "hmm, I might've misunderstood" which, according to himself, is a mafia trait: On June 15 2017 17:48 disformation wrote:
only thing:
i think vivi being super stubborn about that is slightly more town.
imo mafia would be more prone to: "oh oopps totally misread that wordy hard to read post, nvm" Yeah. That's scummy. Result by the way: Vivax scumreading disformation: On June 15 2017 22:20 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 21:33 Vivax wrote:On June 15 2017 18:15 disformation wrote:
yes, but she formed/posted her own opinion on that. before you called her out. This was wrong btw and I'm possibly going to fry disformation for it at some point If HF is town here it's kind of funny cause he's feeding mafias false info and they believe it without fact checking. That would speak for Xata, disfo mafia. tell me something new? i already posted about that. Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 18:28 disformation wrote:On June 15 2017 18:24 Vivax wrote:On June 15 2017 18:15 disformation wrote:
yes, but she formed/posted her own opinion on that. before you called her out. Ummm no? On June 13 2017 07:55 Eversince wrote:
/in
Times killed my last attempt at playing. Round 2 time! On June 15 2017 03:23 Eversince wrote:On June 15 2017 03:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
I forgot rayn was in this game lol what were the points against him? He made 1 sentence in 1 post defending Koshi. The issue is he said he didn't think HF/Disform's arguements made Koshi mafia. HF/Disform never claimed that but cased him as 3p. ^ post I replied to oh wait. i think i missed that post from you: On June 15 2017 03:26 Vivax wrote:On June 15 2017 03:23 Eversince wrote:On June 15 2017 03:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
I forgot rayn was in this game lol what were the points against him? He made 1 sentence in 1 post defending Koshi. The issue is he said he didn't think HF/Disform's arguements made Koshi mafia. HF/Disform never claimed that but cased him as 3p. Already pointed out as being a misrep by HF. Disagreeing on a read doesn't mean I'm defending said person, it just means I'm not going to vote that person for said reasons. And the mafia/3p thingy is just a bad argument from the get go. Rayn is mafia cause he doesn't put a /3p when he says that the reasons don't make Koshi mafia/3p? Cmon her own opinion on that came later in: On June 15 2017 04:41 Eversince wrote:On June 15 2017 04:21 Koshi wrote:
and you are town. There is no way you keep kicking somebody you know is not mafia. Assuming your town why would this be? Even if you're 3p I'm not sure how you'd come to that conclusion. That is entirely what mafia would do. It's the only option they have. They know who is not mafia so kicking not mafia is their only option to win. Kind of in their win-con. This is causing me to tin foil a lot and I was trying to wait on a response before I mentioned it. HF pushing hard on you, having no real problem with lynching Rayn, pocketing? easy 'town reads' (after reading up I suspect if I had been around last night alls I would needed to do would have been pop in, vote you, chat a bit and got labeled town ez for at least this cycle.) This is all town motivated in your mind? Commence fight/kill off the 3p Koshi, engage bonus shit fight with Rayn, enjoy town chaos from glorious golden throne as city burns. The last half of my scenario hasn't happened yet. But I would be lying if the thought hasn't crossed my mind. But you're an easy target because you do produce weak reads. You haven't got anyone aside from Palmar? as a possible mafia. And you'd rather quit and get lynched than play. I don't think you're mafia. So that would make you martyr town or 3p. One might be good/bad for town. The prior is only ever bad for town. But it's easy to see why you're being pushed. uh. that makes it actually harder to tell if she formed that opinion on her own, or if she kinda was forced to by ppl talking about it etc... hmm... Uhhh. Vivax dead.
Piece #5: Voting Xatalos
+ Show Spoiler +On June 16 2017 03:38 disformation wrote:
switched to xata.
i feel like voting with skynx and df. rather than with annul and ruxxar. He wants to vote with Skynx and DF instead of voting with Annul and Ruxxar. On June 16 2017 08:02 Half the Sky wrote:Final Vote Count - Day 1 annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Rels, Grackaroni, Eversince Xatalos (6): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation, annul, Holyflare sicklucker (2): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax Koshi (1): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivaxmarvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood Skynx (1): VayneAuthority ruXxar (0): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax, annulTumblewood (0): ruXxarPalmar (0): sickluckerraynpelikoneet (0): Xatalos, sicklucker, TumblewoodPalmar (0): Koshi, Skynxbeentheredonethat (0): KoshiEversince (0): sickluckerNot voted (4): Damdred, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity Half the Sky is getting ready to throw annul out of her whiskey bar.
Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted. Somehow he ended up voting Xatalos though. His original reasoning was "Hey, I don't want to vote with my scumread". But he also doesn't want to vote his scumread, Annul, and ends up on the opposing wagon. That vote only makes sense if it's an intentional bus.On June 16 2017 03:44 disformation wrote:
do i need to have anything on xata in my filter? "Why would I say something about my scum mate that might direct people to the connection between me and him?" On June 16 2017 03:45 disformation wrote:
i kinda wanted to read annuls filter.
want me to look at my filter before or after that? "I'm not responsible for my vote, I'm just sheeping people". He gets even called out by Koshi for this behaviour by the way (and NOTE HOW KOSHI DIES IN THAT NIGHT) On June 16 2017 03:50 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 03:48 Koshi wrote:On June 16 2017 03:46 disformation wrote:On June 16 2017 03:45 Koshi wrote:On June 16 2017 03:44 disformation wrote:
do i need to have anything on xata in my filter? Yes because you are voting him. On June 16 2017 03:38 disformation wrote:
switched to xata.
i feel like voting with skynx and df. rather than with annul and ruxxar. Shit reason because there is a shitton of time. Why am I not mafia anymore? You vote for somebody you don't know exists over somebody you still think is mafia. nah someone i dont know exists would be annul On June 16 2017 04:08 disformation wrote:
so i feel xata is currently the better lynch, but i havent really looked at annul yet.
in words xata has a decent chance of being scum.
koshi has a decent chance of being 3p, but i think xata has the better chance at being scum and koshi will at least post stuff that gives town more info. There is no way to determine the better lynch unless you know the alignment of one of them, busformation. On June 16 2017 07:08 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 07:05 Rels wrote:
I don't think Xata is scum. I can follow his logic in his filter. problem is more like that most of his stuff isnt very commited and fairly bland. if you got some nice scum reads i am all earsy Why is he asking Rels, who he rather scumreads, for scum reads outside of Xata/Annul? Right, because he doesn't want a Xata wagon. And finally, the great post game reaction: On June 16 2017 08:10 disformation wrote:
wish i had known about his tendency to be the d1 lynch etc Yeah. If only you had read the game. If only. Disformation has already digged Database at that point! He is known for researching meta, he even brought up some games from ruxxar. but he doesn't know about the tendency to D1 lynch?! What kind of super weird and cheap reaction is that?!
Piece #6: Numbers
+ Show Spoiler +This is a short one tbh but it matches the claim stuff from #1: On June 16 2017 08:34 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 08:33 darthfoley wrote:On June 16 2017 08:23 Koshi wrote:
3)Palmar
5)disformation
7)Tumblewood
12)Xatalos
13)AMG
14)marvellosity
15)Grackaroni
20)sicklucker
22)Eversince
So this is my list still. I am not yet putting HF in it. Weird I know. If Xatalos is town the 5 mafia are still in this list. I am somewhat tempted to take sl out :d You know how many mafia there are? wait wat how u know its 5 scum? Again, the instant jump on "wait, you know our exact numbers?!", just like "wait, redcheck? shit shit shit". Feels exactly the same. Even the wording on the follow up: On June 16 2017 08:37 disformation wrote:
hmmm... no idea about numbers in large games. doesnt sound too farfetched though.
bed after all Is almost identical ("doesn't sound too farfetched", compare to "a green check not too far fetched" from D1). I think that's scum trying to construct a TMI: "HE CANNOT KNOW WE'RE FIVE"
This filter is so super hard to read >.<
I'm on page 11. I have to admit that his N1 looks very good, especially asking the vig shot to be directed towards Xata. However, Xata doesn't die, so either vig didn't shoot or mafia has a protection mechanic or the roleblock got lucky? Hm, speculations. I'd say scum has a protective mechanic. Nevertheless, disformation's N1 doesn't look particularly scummy but it's also not particularly townie. He's mainly quoting posts from flipped HF/Koshi which is a good thing but which he stops lateron wihtout having drawn any conclusions from it.
His D2 however is atrocious. He's basically yelling "I'm town" all day long without looking more into Xata. Note how he's still voting Xata because he wanted to vote with Skynx and HF and he doesn't have any original thoughts. Given how close it was I'm pretty sure that D2 fakeclaim was directed onto scumformation to give him towncred because he's the most active scummer by far in that team.
On June 17 2017 21:18 disformation wrote:
so my world looks like this atm:
annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Rels, Grackaroni, Eversince
Xatalos (6): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation, annul, Holyflare
sicklucker (2): Palmar, Vivax
Koshi (1): beentheredonethat
marvellosity (1): Tumblewood
Skynx (1): VayneAuthority
Not voted (4): Damdred, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity
rayn had some good posts recently as well.so prolly green.
very high probability of at least 1 more, prolly 2 scum on annul.
if there is a scum oin xata its skynx. just per poe.
had a few instances where i was a bit worried about vivi (the parts where I felt he was reading another game), but i think i would lynch a bunch of other ppl before him.
prolly should look at btdt, skynx and the ppl on annul again.
Skynx, who he sheeped, somehow is on the scum pile now. There's some more banter with rayn but nothing of great value or readability.
I'm now past D2. Rest will take a while to fully catch up but I'm confident in disfo being scum. The Xata claim looks like a set up play, it was too easy to lynch him and the day was super auto. mafia didn't try to change that in any way apparently and were content with letting the roleblocker die, I repeat, the roleblocker. I think they only do this if they're super afk or, way more likely, they get a somewhat conftown in disformation.
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On June 20 2017 19:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2017 18:50 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 20 2017 18:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
btdt why is disformation mafia? He spent the last 2-3 pages with painting a beautiful "btdt is scum" narrative, culminating in a "NEVER UNVOTE HERE" fake-rage so he doesn't have to end up on Grack. Vivax was hardcore on Grack and was probably killed because of that, also he was townreading me, so I assume scum!disformation wanted to start a btdt wagon with the town cred he gained from the xata flip (bla fake red check bla). Cherry on the cake: scum killed always into the super active people yet 22-page-filter-disformation survived for some reason. it's like a puzzle, it all goes together. disfo wasn't realler eager to push me on my hard defense on xata during d2, he left this to chez and df (which makes chez probably town btw) and while disfo feels active, he's not really doing much. Even starting the day with that weird "I have no scumreads" post but then suddenly locked grack locked btdt? I think that's as solid as it gets but a grack flip would kinda confirm that lynch avert attempt First of all you cannot really make assumptions of disformation's alignment based on Gracks. If he is mafia with Grack what's the point of calling him mafia in the first place then? Like he has the town credit (even if you don't think so) to call some townie mafia instead. Why doesn't he just simply call you mafia earlier? If Grackaroni is not mafia with him your theory - which is already a flimsy one - falls apart, you said so. But even so, why does that change anything? IF Grack is town here why does that suddenly make disformation town? I think you're looking too much into connections, and you're doing it wrong. The only thing that is a reasonable conclusion in this post imo is that Vivax was probably killed because Grackaroni is mafia. I am not even saying that is correct 100% but i know if i was mafia i would not kill Vivax here, since Vivax tends to be a paranoid vane who can start calling even confirmed townies mafia at some point. But yeah, that's only what i think, i don't know for sure what mafia thought when they shot him. If you're town at least let go of disformation because you HAVE TO realize this isn't productive at all rn and your read is based on someone else's alignment and the fact that he calls you mafia rather than something he has actually said. For reals, you get lynched for this kind of shit all the time. I don't want to lynch you in case you're town. But right now you're not helping, in fact you're mafia siding pretty hard with this stuff REGARDLESS of if you are right or wrong. Even if you are right, disformation and Grackaroni are not the only mafia in the game. Your vote is on Grack, which is fine, but please talk about somethign else than disformation.
B-but i just cased him big time >.<
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On June 20 2017 19:07 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2017 18:50 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 20 2017 18:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
btdt why is disformation mafia? He spent the last 2-3 pages with painting a beautiful "btdt is scum" narrative, culminating in a "NEVER UNVOTE HERE" fake-rage so he doesn't have to end up on Grack. Disagree. On the contrary disfo's angry posts cements my townread on him. I would expect him to be more ironic and mocking as scum when he knows he has much more power than you.
So far, he was in his "everyone townreads me"-comfort zone. I kicked him out of that zone, of course he's frustrated. So you're right, the rage might be genuine, but it's scum indicated and not town-indicative.
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On June 20 2017 19:18 Chezitwo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2017 18:39 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 20 2017 18:37 disformation wrote:On June 20 2017 18:32 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 20 2017 18:22 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 20 2017 17:02 disformation wrote:On June 20 2017 16:54 beentheredonethat wrote:
My disfo senses are tingling
How is he who is close to conftown not dead geez. i wonder which scummer woudlnt shoot me. On June 14 2017 22:41 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 14 2017 22:38 disformation wrote:On June 14 2017 22:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
Disfo, why buddy so hard with HF from the get-go? Given you're behaviour, you're super confident he's town.
I townread him currently, too, so does Koshi. w00t w00t I WISH I was super confident he's town. =D Not gonna lie: I like playing with HF and it would be cool to have a mindmeld over that koshi thing. But I also mentioned that I feel like a bunch of ppl are buddying in my direction so I am a bit paranoid. I love buddying up to you when I'm scum because you're super easy to buddy. Like "be nice to disfo and he'll either townread you or give you 1000000 chances to justify yourself". You're not confident about your reads. You're super good at establishing yourself as town but you're not so good at scumhunting. While I do suck at both :D =p And what's your exact point hey disfo what was the purpose of your post when you yourself gave answers to your question? you know besides throwing shade at me are you dumb? *hands mirror*
That's a nice picture
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On June 20 2017 18:50 beentheredonethat wrote:He spent the last 2-3 pages with painting a beautiful "btdt is scum" narrative, culminating in a "NEVER UNVOTE HERE" fake-rage so he doesn't have to end up on Grack. Vivax was hardcore on Grack and was probably killed because of that, also he was townreading me, so I assume scum!disformation wanted to start a btdt wagon with the town cred he gained from the xata flip (bla fake red check bla). Cherry on the cake: scum killed always into the super active people yet 22-page-filter-disformation survived for some reason. it's like a puzzle, it all goes together. disfo wasn't realler eager to push me on my hard defense on xata during d2, he left this to chez and df (which makes chez probably town btw) and while disfo feels active, he's not really doing much. Even starting the day with that weird "I have no scumreads" post but then suddenly locked grack locked btdt? I think that's as solid as it gets but a grack flip would kinda confirm that lynch avert attempt
On June 20 2017 19:49 beentheredonethat wrote:Piece #1: The Claim Belief. + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2017 18:25 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 18:21 sicklucker wrote:
alright boys im hard claiming cop with a red check on eversince. why did you decide to check eversince? On June 14 2017 18:26 disformation wrote:
and why would you claim so early in the day?
that kinda ruins the discussion if you make the day auto this early. When sicklucker claimed cop, disformation jumped right on it. That bothered me D1 already but I kinda forgot it and I was on Koshi anyways. Believing a claim is not mafia indicative per se. Nor is asking for "why did you check this very person". But only a minute later, he posts questions that indicate his doubts. He's not fully buying it, he's doubting the logic because sicklucker's claim behaviour is weird. Yet, he still trys to make it seem he's believing the claim. I think sicklucker randomly hit scum with his fake claim. Eversince is disformation's scum buddy and disfo panicked for a moment, believing that the claim was genuine. He is in the end talking about his doubts: On June 14 2017 18:32 disformation wrote:
hmmm... cop with a random check at the start of the game?
hmmmmmmmmm... like dunno. cop with a random green check at the start of the game doesnt sound too far fetched imo.
cop with a red at the very start of the game is really nasty for scum. esp. since pre game it was kinda implied that a lot of ppl wanted "weaker" and less swingy power roles.
doesnt help that the check is on someone who has a history of not showing up or afking a bunch. This sentence reads already like "hey, I don't believe that". The relief is in there tonally, the relief that noone is picking up on the claim and the realization that it's most likely fake anyway. And, finally, the proof: On June 14 2017 18:41 disformation wrote:eh. he actually kinda announced his plan: Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 18:12 sicklucker wrote:
step 1 piss people off.
step 2 get reads
tlmafia meta carry on then. =D This is one of the very few, if not only times where disformation uses the "=D" smiley to express maximum happiness. Given he's every now and then in doubt of sicklucker, there's no real emotional reason to be found except relief that the claim is fake - because, I repeat, Eversince is most likely scum for real. Piece #2: Koshi. + Show Spoiler +This is the post that striked me weird: On June 14 2017 18:44 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 18:29 Palmar wrote:On June 14 2017 18:27 Xatalos wrote:On June 14 2017 18:09 Holyflare wrote:On June 14 2017 17:49 Koshi wrote:
Bwaaaaaaaaa. Almost always I make a "first confirmed town post + I add my gameplan" Yeh so now you didn't make one and no game plan. 3P doesn't have a game plan because they dunno who to side with yet. Aka you are 3p. Aka lynch koshbagmcgoo. Best case 2017 :D I believe in this case. y u no vote koshi then? or try to convince ppl to vote koshi? Contrary to the claim where he was super interested in WHY EVERSINCE?!, he doesn't even care about "why Koshi". Although HF's reasoning behind "Koshi 3p" isn't really great, it's not even easy to read or understand. Yet disfo is like "uhh, Koshi push? I'm totes fine with that, go ahead Palmar". Koshi flipped town N1 - and the ease with which disformation would let pushes on Koshi happen just speaks volume about how confident and happy he is with the state of the game at this point. On June 14 2017 18:48 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 18:45 Holyflare wrote:On June 14 2017 18:19 disformation wrote:
@HF: cant tell if serious or not. xD
Do/did you also dislike his opener for similar reasons or what? The exact reason you stated. Lynch Koshfacemc3Pface. dammit. is that a buddying/pocketing attempt or did we seriously have a mindmeld about koshis random meh throwaway oneliner? A mindmeld with HF is claimed of whom disfo knows he's town. Note how disfo's vote is on Koshi, he's only jumping on the Xata wagon as #4, which is like the most convenient spot to be in as scum because a) it gives you towncred because you're helping the wagon get out of the rather low volume 2-3 vote state and b) it's not the hammer vote so while you gain towncred, you're not the scum hammer. And, whoops, he's sitting there conveniently, letting the annul wagon happen. On June 14 2017 18:55 disformation wrote:
following my gut.
voting koshi.
=D Again, the "=D" smiley. Look how happy he is. He knows Koshi's town, and even better, he has HF (and btdt) who are pushing the Koshi wagon already so he can lean back and comment on stuff without really committing to anything. He drops some light-hearted reads which feel super random and forced. Also: On June 14 2017 21:30 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 21:28 annul wrote:On June 14 2017 21:14 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 14 2017 20:58 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 14 2017 20:55 annul wrote:On June 14 2017 20:50 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 14 2017 20:50 annul wrote:On June 14 2017 17:53 disformation wrote:
@koshi: if you are SK 1v1 me at night! soft veteran claim? blue hunting? is it really hunting if someone uses a line like that Why ignore the hf vs. rayn because koshi thing though? hey annul who says i am ignoring it? commenting on A does not equal ignoring B. well you currently have 0 posts on B? maybe post something about B? =D Oh look, again the smiley, again while he's scumreading a townie. That's confidence scumformation right there, uhhyeah baby. Piece #3: rayn+ Show Spoiler +On June 14 2017 21:33 disformation wrote:
under scrutiny is a good wording for where rayn is at. I would absolutely love to quote some posts now where disformation follows up on this. But there aren't any. Takes a while when he talks to rayn, and it's not in the way you'd expect someone to talk to someone who's under scrutiny: On June 15 2017 16:29 disformation wrote:good morning everyone. @rayn: lemme explain the palmar thing: Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 18:44 disformation wrote:On June 14 2017 18:29 Palmar wrote:On June 14 2017 18:27 Xatalos wrote:On June 14 2017 18:09 Holyflare wrote:On June 14 2017 17:49 Koshi wrote:
Bwaaaaaaaaa. Almost always I make a "first confirmed town post + I add my gameplan" Yeh so now you didn't make one and no game plan. 3P doesn't have a game plan because they dunno who to side with yet. Aka you are 3p. Aka lynch koshbagmcgoo. Best case 2017 :D I believe in this case. y u no vote koshi then? or try to convince ppl to vote koshi? Palmar never answers the question. Koshis vote reminded me of that. "Hey you, I think you're scum, you're under scrutiny - let me explain to you something and then I'll just get off and not talk to you for a while" Super cheap. Piece #4: Eversince+ Show Spoiler +Do you guys remember how disfo was wondering why eversince was checked? It's #1. Look at the first time he drops a bit of a comment about her: On June 15 2017 05:17 disformation wrote:think i am getting an headache. i am not sure I like hf's post on koshi. the case one. i feel like hf is overdramatizing some points. on the other hand i am not sure i like kohsis response either. Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 04:41 Eversince wrote:On June 15 2017 04:21 Koshi wrote:
and you are town. There is no way you keep kicking somebody you know is not mafia. Assuming your town why would this be? Even if you're 3p I'm not sure how you'd come to that conclusion. That is entirely what mafia would do. It's the only option they have. They know who is not mafia so kicking not mafia is their only option to win. Kind of in their win-con. This is causing me to tin foil a lot and I was trying to wait on a response before I mentioned it. HF pushing hard on you, having no real problem with lynching Rayn, pocketing? easy 'town reads' (after reading up I suspect if I had been around last night alls I would needed to do would have been pop in, vote you, chat a bit and got labeled town ez for at least this cycle.) This is all town motivated in your mind? Commence fight/kill off the 3p Koshi, engage bonus shit fight with Rayn, enjoy town chaos from glorious golden throne as city burns. The last half of my scenario hasn't happened yet. But I would be lying if the thought hasn't crossed my mind. But you're an easy target because you do produce weak reads. You haven't got anyone aside from Palmar? as a possible mafia. And you'd rather quit and get lynched than play. I don't think you're mafia. So that would make you martyr town or 3p. One might be good/bad for town. The prior is only ever bad for town. But it's easy to see why you're being pushed. this post is fairly overexplainy and hard to follow in general. can you break it down into a core message and write what you wanted to say in like 2 sentences? This is scummy. This is as scummy as it gets at this point, yet disformation is not drawing that conclusion. He doesn't follow up, again, though - BUT: he's on Vivax after all: On June 15 2017 17:43 disformation wrote:
most plausible would be that he skimmed the big wordy complicated post of her and misread?
but i also dont see where she supposedly copied your stuff on rayn.
she just says that you are cool with lynching/shitfighting rayn Vivax is pressuring Eversince (note: Vivax is dead) at that point and disformation is not directly defending Eversince BUT he is clearly dismissing what Vivax said. He doesn't clearly say "hey, that's wrong, ES is town and you're reasoning is flawed", no, instead he tries to soft defend her a bit. Why is that? Super scummy. He even goes on to ask others (Palmar) about Vivax (note, NOT Eversince!) On June 15 2017 17:46 disformation wrote:
@palmar:
can you explain your 100% vivi townread? Finally, some words about Eversince: On June 15 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:
i think her post doesnt make it 100% clear if she only copied the case against rayn or if she thinks its true. she kinda states it as a fact that rayn defended koshi, but i dont think it is clear if she does that because that is part of the case, or if she thinks it is true.
so yeah she can have copied that from hf. cause that is basically the case.
i think that post is pretty much nai. So here's what happens: 1. Rayn does something 2. ES agrees/re-states what rayn said 3. Gets called out and/or scumread for it 4. doesn't react (isn't in thread?) 5. Disfo keeps defending her, throwing shade on Vivax. He rescinds his defense later on though, when HF is on it and thread in general seems to be so: On June 15 2017 18:28 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 18:24 Vivax wrote:On June 15 2017 18:15 disformation wrote:
yes, but she formed/posted her own opinion on that. before you called her out. Ummm no? On June 13 2017 07:55 Eversince wrote:
/in
Times killed my last attempt at playing. Round 2 time! On June 15 2017 03:23 Eversince wrote:On June 15 2017 03:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
I forgot rayn was in this game lol what were the points against him? He made 1 sentence in 1 post defending Koshi. The issue is he said he didn't think HF/Disform's arguements made Koshi mafia. HF/Disform never claimed that but cased him as 3p. ^ post I replied to oh wait. i think i missed that post from you: Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 03:26 Vivax wrote:On June 15 2017 03:23 Eversince wrote:On June 15 2017 03:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
I forgot rayn was in this game lol what were the points against him? He made 1 sentence in 1 post defending Koshi. The issue is he said he didn't think HF/Disform's arguements made Koshi mafia. HF/Disform never claimed that but cased him as 3p. Already pointed out as being a misrep by HF. Disagreeing on a read doesn't mean I'm defending said person, it just means I'm not going to vote that person for said reasons. And the mafia/3p thingy is just a bad argument from the get go. Rayn is mafia cause he doesn't put a /3p when he says that the reasons don't make Koshi mafia/3p? Cmon her own opinion on that came later in: Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 04:41 Eversince wrote:On June 15 2017 04:21 Koshi wrote:
and you are town. There is no way you keep kicking somebody you know is not mafia. Assuming your town why would this be? Even if you're 3p I'm not sure how you'd come to that conclusion. That is entirely what mafia would do. It's the only option they have. They know who is not mafia so kicking not mafia is their only option to win. Kind of in their win-con. This is causing me to tin foil a lot and I was trying to wait on a response before I mentioned it. HF pushing hard on you, having no real problem with lynching Rayn, pocketing? easy 'town reads' (after reading up I suspect if I had been around last night alls I would needed to do would have been pop in, vote you, chat a bit and got labeled town ez for at least this cycle.) This is all town motivated in your mind? Commence fight/kill off the 3p Koshi, engage bonus shit fight with Rayn, enjoy town chaos from glorious golden throne as city burns. The last half of my scenario hasn't happened yet. But I would be lying if the thought hasn't crossed my mind. But you're an easy target because you do produce weak reads. You haven't got anyone aside from Palmar? as a possible mafia. And you'd rather quit and get lynched than play. I don't think you're mafia. So that would make you martyr town or 3p. One might be good/bad for town. The prior is only ever bad for town. But it's easy to see why you're being pushed. uh. that makes it actually harder to tell if she formed that opinion on her own, or if she kinda was forced to by ppl talking about it etc... hmm... So he basically says "hmm, I might've misunderstood" which, according to himself, is a mafia trait: On June 15 2017 17:48 disformation wrote:
only thing:
i think vivi being super stubborn about that is slightly more town.
imo mafia would be more prone to: "oh oopps totally misread that wordy hard to read post, nvm" Yeah. That's scummy. Result by the way: Vivax scumreading disformation: On June 15 2017 22:20 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 21:33 Vivax wrote:On June 15 2017 18:15 disformation wrote:
yes, but she formed/posted her own opinion on that. before you called her out. This was wrong btw and I'm possibly going to fry disformation for it at some point If HF is town here it's kind of funny cause he's feeding mafias false info and they believe it without fact checking. That would speak for Xata, disfo mafia. tell me something new? i already posted about that. Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 18:28 disformation wrote:On June 15 2017 18:24 Vivax wrote:On June 15 2017 18:15 disformation wrote:
yes, but she formed/posted her own opinion on that. before you called her out. Ummm no? On June 13 2017 07:55 Eversince wrote:
/in
Times killed my last attempt at playing. Round 2 time! On June 15 2017 03:23 Eversince wrote:On June 15 2017 03:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
I forgot rayn was in this game lol what were the points against him? He made 1 sentence in 1 post defending Koshi. The issue is he said he didn't think HF/Disform's arguements made Koshi mafia. HF/Disform never claimed that but cased him as 3p. ^ post I replied to oh wait. i think i missed that post from you: On June 15 2017 03:26 Vivax wrote:On June 15 2017 03:23 Eversince wrote:On June 15 2017 03:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
I forgot rayn was in this game lol what were the points against him? He made 1 sentence in 1 post defending Koshi. The issue is he said he didn't think HF/Disform's arguements made Koshi mafia. HF/Disform never claimed that but cased him as 3p. Already pointed out as being a misrep by HF. Disagreeing on a read doesn't mean I'm defending said person, it just means I'm not going to vote that person for said reasons. And the mafia/3p thingy is just a bad argument from the get go. Rayn is mafia cause he doesn't put a /3p when he says that the reasons don't make Koshi mafia/3p? Cmon her own opinion on that came later in: On June 15 2017 04:41 Eversince wrote:On June 15 2017 04:21 Koshi wrote:
and you are town. There is no way you keep kicking somebody you know is not mafia. Assuming your town why would this be? Even if you're 3p I'm not sure how you'd come to that conclusion. That is entirely what mafia would do. It's the only option they have. They know who is not mafia so kicking not mafia is their only option to win. Kind of in their win-con. This is causing me to tin foil a lot and I was trying to wait on a response before I mentioned it. HF pushing hard on you, having no real problem with lynching Rayn, pocketing? easy 'town reads' (after reading up I suspect if I had been around last night alls I would needed to do would have been pop in, vote you, chat a bit and got labeled town ez for at least this cycle.) This is all town motivated in your mind? Commence fight/kill off the 3p Koshi, engage bonus shit fight with Rayn, enjoy town chaos from glorious golden throne as city burns. The last half of my scenario hasn't happened yet. But I would be lying if the thought hasn't crossed my mind. But you're an easy target because you do produce weak reads. You haven't got anyone aside from Palmar? as a possible mafia. And you'd rather quit and get lynched than play. I don't think you're mafia. So that would make you martyr town or 3p. One might be good/bad for town. The prior is only ever bad for town. But it's easy to see why you're being pushed. uh. that makes it actually harder to tell if she formed that opinion on her own, or if she kinda was forced to by ppl talking about it etc... hmm... Uhhh. Vivax dead. Piece #5: Voting Xatalos+ Show Spoiler +On June 16 2017 03:38 disformation wrote:
switched to xata.
i feel like voting with skynx and df. rather than with annul and ruxxar. He wants to vote with Skynx and DF instead of voting with Annul and Ruxxar. On June 16 2017 08:02 Half the Sky wrote:Final Vote Count - Day 1 annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Rels, Grackaroni, Eversince Xatalos (6): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation, annul, Holyflare sicklucker (2): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax Koshi (1): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivaxmarvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood Skynx (1): VayneAuthority ruXxar (0): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax, annulTumblewood (0): ruXxarPalmar (0): sickluckerraynpelikoneet (0): Xatalos, sicklucker, TumblewoodPalmar (0): Koshi, Skynxbeentheredonethat (0): KoshiEversince (0): sickluckerNot voted (4): Damdred, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity Half the Sky is getting ready to throw annul out of her whiskey bar.
Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted. Somehow he ended up voting Xatalos though. His original reasoning was "Hey, I don't want to vote with my scumread". But he also doesn't want to vote his scumread, Annul, and ends up on the opposing wagon. That vote only makes sense if it's an intentional bus.On June 16 2017 03:44 disformation wrote:
do i need to have anything on xata in my filter? "Why would I say something about my scum mate that might direct people to the connection between me and him?" On June 16 2017 03:45 disformation wrote:
i kinda wanted to read annuls filter.
want me to look at my filter before or after that? "I'm not responsible for my vote, I'm just sheeping people". He gets even called out by Koshi for this behaviour by the way (and NOTE HOW KOSHI DIES IN THAT NIGHT) On June 16 2017 03:50 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 03:48 Koshi wrote:On June 16 2017 03:46 disformation wrote:On June 16 2017 03:45 Koshi wrote:On June 16 2017 03:44 disformation wrote:
do i need to have anything on xata in my filter? Yes because you are voting him. On June 16 2017 03:38 disformation wrote:
switched to xata.
i feel like voting with skynx and df. rather than with annul and ruxxar. Shit reason because there is a shitton of time. Why am I not mafia anymore? You vote for somebody you don't know exists over somebody you still think is mafia. nah someone i dont know exists would be annul On June 16 2017 04:08 disformation wrote:
so i feel xata is currently the better lynch, but i havent really looked at annul yet.
in words xata has a decent chance of being scum.
koshi has a decent chance of being 3p, but i think xata has the better chance at being scum and koshi will at least post stuff that gives town more info. There is no way to determine the better lynch unless you know the alignment of one of them, busformation. On June 16 2017 07:08 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 07:05 Rels wrote:
I don't think Xata is scum. I can follow his logic in his filter. problem is more like that most of his stuff isnt very commited and fairly bland. if you got some nice scum reads i am all earsy Why is he asking Rels, who he rather scumreads, for scum reads outside of Xata/Annul? Right, because he doesn't want a Xata wagon. And finally, the great post game reaction: On June 16 2017 08:10 disformation wrote:
wish i had known about his tendency to be the d1 lynch etc Yeah. If only you had read the game. If only. Disformation has already digged Database at that point! He is known for researching meta, he even brought up some games from ruxxar. but he doesn't know about the tendency to D1 lynch?! What kind of super weird and cheap reaction is that?! Piece #6: Numbers+ Show Spoiler +This is a short one tbh but it matches the claim stuff from #1: On June 16 2017 08:34 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 08:33 darthfoley wrote:On June 16 2017 08:23 Koshi wrote:
3)Palmar
5)disformation
7)Tumblewood
12)Xatalos
13)AMG
14)marvellosity
15)Grackaroni
20)sicklucker
22)Eversince
So this is my list still. I am not yet putting HF in it. Weird I know. If Xatalos is town the 5 mafia are still in this list. I am somewhat tempted to take sl out :d You know how many mafia there are? wait wat how u know its 5 scum? Again, the instant jump on "wait, you know our exact numbers?!", just like "wait, redcheck? shit shit shit". Feels exactly the same. Even the wording on the follow up: On June 16 2017 08:37 disformation wrote:
hmmm... no idea about numbers in large games. doesnt sound too farfetched though.
bed after all Is almost identical ("doesn't sound too farfetched", compare to "a green check not too far fetched" from D1). I think that's scum trying to construct a TMI: "HE CANNOT KNOW WE'RE FIVE" This filter is so super hard to read >.< I'm on page 11. I have to admit that his N1 looks very good, especially asking the vig shot to be directed towards Xata. However, Xata doesn't die, so either vig didn't shoot or mafia has a protection mechanic or the roleblock got lucky? Hm, speculations. I'd say scum has a protective mechanic. Nevertheless, disformation's N1 doesn't look particularly scummy but it's also not particularly townie. He's mainly quoting posts from flipped HF/Koshi which is a good thing but which he stops lateron wihtout having drawn any conclusions from it. His D2 however is atrocious. He's basically yelling "I'm town" all day long without looking more into Xata. Note how he's still voting Xata because he wanted to vote with Skynx and HF and he doesn't have any original thoughts. Given how close it was I'm pretty sure that D2 fakeclaim was directed onto scumformation to give him towncred because he's the most active scummer by far in that team. Show nested quote +On June 17 2017 21:18 disformation wrote:
so my world looks like this atm:
annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Rels, Grackaroni, Eversince
Xatalos (6): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation, annul, Holyflare
sicklucker (2): Palmar, Vivax
Koshi (1): beentheredonethat
marvellosity (1): Tumblewood
Skynx (1): VayneAuthority
Not voted (4): Damdred, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity
rayn had some good posts recently as well.so prolly green.
very high probability of at least 1 more, prolly 2 scum on annul.
if there is a scum oin xata its skynx. just per poe.
had a few instances where i was a bit worried about vivi (the parts where I felt he was reading another game), but i think i would lynch a bunch of other ppl before him.
prolly should look at btdt, skynx and the ppl on annul again. Skynx, who he sheeped, somehow is on the scum pile now. There's some more banter with rayn but nothing of great value or readability. I'm now past D2. Rest will take a while to fully catch up but I'm confident in disfo being scum. The Xata claim looks like a set up play, it was too easy to lynch him and the day was super auto. mafia didn't try to change that in any way apparently and were content with letting the roleblocker die, I repeat, the roleblocker. I think they only do this if they're super afk or, way more likely, they get a somewhat conftown in disformation.
These go together of course
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Xatalos, disformation, Eversince, Grackaroni aaaaand - hmmm dunno
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completely different question
why exactly are we not lynching Palmar?
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sicklucker has actually accumulated 12 pages of filter
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