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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22086 Posts
June 07 2017 09:27 GMT
#1485
On June 07 2017 18:24 Holyflare wrote:
Right but it was proven that was wrong and you still wanted to lynch him.


The one game where he posted nothing substantial and then claimed cop during D1 yeah. But here he has no such excuse as all roles are now known. So if he isn't blue, he quite clearly didn't do anything serious during D1, ergo he is mafia, or as town he thought he could have a good time without trying to find the best lynch as his utmost priority. But then he should be open about it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22086 Posts
June 07 2017 09:35 GMT
#1489
In Liquidmania #2 we already determined that even if only 2 of 10 players play the game and you'#re one of them, you can still be mafia.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22086 Posts
June 07 2017 09:35 GMT
#1490
And I already said whos mafia if it isnt you and BH dunno what else you want from me
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22086 Posts
June 07 2017 09:54 GMT
#1492
On June 07 2017 18:38 Holyflare wrote:
An actual reason why they're mafia? Some posts on it? A couple of lines isn't good enough because if you're town then this is the real world you should be playing in.


TBH you should explain how you read TS cause he's got multiple posts adressed at you and you don't seem to care at all about them. Overall your read on TS is very intransparent.

Since I'm dying anyway, it's not me who should be open about the reads buddy. I'm just here to fish them out of your scummy heads atm cause it doesn't matter what my opinion is, so stop pretending that it does and try to put me on the backfoot.

Here's a minor inconsistency where he argues that he's always paranoid about you yet you somehow always end up in his town lists/don't lynch lits.

On June 05 2017 02:10 Tubesock wrote:
My preferred lynches are BH, btdt, then TW.

BH and TW for already stated reasons. btdt because I don't like nitpickers or martyrs. He's wrong on Conversion, if newbie excuses were the entire content of Cons post then he'd be right but Conversion posts reads and explains them.

I'm fine with HF and TW being in the same category. I mean you're HF the one who survives red checks. And I'm pretty convinced the mods messed up in generic and mislabeled your role when you died.


here he says you could be mafia while still he never actually calls you mafia and gives himself a reason to TR you actually.

On June 05 2017 07:52 Tubesock wrote:
Voting btdt.

Looking at more stuff with Vivax and his progression. I didn't like his last reads and his colored vote analysis post seemed wrong.

HF could be mafia sure. I think he's needlessly making things more difficult for himself if he were.


Here he asks you something and you don't answer it and he keeps calling you town comfortably afterwards.

On June 05 2017 08:05 Tubesock wrote:
I also thought deadline was 3 minutes ago.

HF, so why are you all of a sudden ready to lynch BH???

I don't want to lynch LS. But it's only cause he's LS and he makes me laugh. Haven't read him yet.



Also this day he thought it was better to lynch you initially and gave a bunch of reasons for it but when most of town 180°d he flipped his opinion along with them.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22086 Posts
June 07 2017 09:56 GMT
#1493
I'm feeling better about HF + TS now actually.

Only scummy thing coming to mind regarding ritoky is literally his afking at deadline while being there. And I don't need to quote something for that. He ninja voted but wasn't around to discuss stuff.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22086 Posts
June 07 2017 10:11 GMT
#1497
On June 07 2017 19:10 Holyflare wrote:
Also where the flying fuck has your PB is definitely mafia stance gone? Totally unexplained drop.


Something around Fidei lynch made me drop him. Can't remember what atm
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22086 Posts
June 07 2017 10:11 GMT
#1498
Probably the fact that it was 1/3 of mafia down leaving you and BH at the time.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22086 Posts
June 07 2017 10:12 GMT
#1499
Like honestly why are yuo still pushing me over explained reads when I'm getting lynched anyway. YOu pile reasons on a lynch that doesn't need more reasons
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22086 Posts
June 07 2017 11:45 GMT
#1510
BH is driving the game forward? xD
As for HF, he is but he does that as mafia too. The question you have to ask yourself with HF is, does he drive the game towards a spot where anyone could get lynched, or does he actually try to narrow it down?

The most productive thing you could do right now is do a dive on TS and ritoky. From my perspective at least. It's obviously up to you what you think is most productive but discussing me isn't, so it's just a suggestion cause I don't want to sound like I'm bossing you around.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22086 Posts
June 07 2017 11:46 GMT
#1512
On June 07 2017 20:36 beentheredonethat wrote:
I don't want to lynch Vivax and I don't want to lynch Holyflare. I don't want to lynch Blazinghand. I'm paranoid about Blazinghand and Holyflare but the rational part of my mind says it's super unlikely they are scum together. If they are scum together, the game is lost anyways. BH and HF are driving the game forward. Vivax is mainly busy defending himself and blaming BH/HF being scum, and I'm of course busy with self-pity and so on.

Good thing we lynched scum D1, because if we hadn't, scum probably would be in a great position.






This post totally doesn't look like you wanted to write a lot more and then realized that nothing else came to mind? ;p
5 empty lines
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22086 Posts
June 07 2017 12:13 GMT
#1516
On June 07 2017 20:52 beentheredonethat wrote:
Okay. Thought experiment:


Assuming BH, HF, Vivax and me are all town and mafia is in the rather low volume players and having a good laugh about how town is currently screwing over itself. That leaves:

Tubesock, Tumblewood, LightningStrike, Grackaroni, ritoky, Prison Break, Conversion.

Now Tumblewood is the blue claim. The doctor. However, the nightkill was Onegu. Now keep in mind that the OP clearly says that the doctor cannot heal himself - so either scum didn't believe the doctor claim and did a potential medic dodge - or Tumblewood fakeclaimed to stay alive.

So right now, Tumblewood is un-cc'ed and the only claim. town!HF's move of "hey, not gonna tell the exact role so I don't out the "real" blue just in case" was actually really cool. Tumblewood let the whole D2 pass so far and didn't care too much about this game ALTHOUGH he's the claimed doctor and should be highly interested in finding out potential N2 heal targets, right? Mafia didn't kill him N1, so maybe he'll get another heal of. There might of course be other thinking patterns but this is one that I'd find likely to have as doctor.

Grackaroni - I'm currently putting him on the town pile. He worded exactly why I didn't want to lynch Vivax in a way that I really liked and I fully agreed with his thought process here. I quoted the post that I mean already, it's somewhere in my filter. Might be a bit too easy to townread here but I'll do it anyways.

LightningStrike - I still have no particular impression on what he's done so far. Townreads Tubesock, Grack, ritoky. He says that "HF vs. Vivax feels like town vs. scum" with a tendency to Vivax playing the scum part - what happened to that read D2? But then again, he was early to switch to fidei, plus:

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On June 05 2017 08:58 LightningStrike wrote:
I not feeling good about this switch to james now with everyone jumping on broad.


I think this is a genuine town post.
His last appearance here was almost 24 hours ago so it's time for him to come back.

Tubesock has a full three pages of filter, mostly one liners that are not really amazing. I don't know why people townread that guy. But then again he was second on the Fidei wagon which should give him a lot of town cred.

In that thought experiment, our lynches should be between ritoky, Prison Break, Conversion. Those are at least the guys and gals to look into.


Yea I completely forgot about TS being the second vote, esp. that was my primary reason for excluding him post-fidei I forgot afterwards so I could bit myself in the arse for suspecting him this day. Thanks for reminding me. He should probably never be lynched just for that.

Which is good so now I can go back to calling HF and BH mafia and feel right about it
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22086 Posts
June 07 2017 14:18 GMT
#1525
On June 07 2017 22:55 Conversion wrote:
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On June 07 2017 22:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 07 2017 22:41 Conversion wrote:
OK I just woke up and I'll be reading through filter's since it looks like Vivax actually posted something since the last time I read.

@BTDT Could you actually make a read on me/PB/ritoky? I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on us 3 tbh and I'm interested in being evaluated for my play so far, which hasn't been stellar because this whole claiming play just made the game unfun for me so I took a longer break.

Also where is PB? He promised to be more active and has posted nothing so far. Can I get a list of your reads so far? I'll post mine soon after this post.

My filter has reads on ritoky and PB and I think even on you :O


I meant in your thought experiment Also your point on me was "where am I" and here I am! Honestly I was F5'ing the thread pretty hard since my last post but nothing was happening so I went away from the thread and am catching up now.

Also realized I didn't really make a lot of posts, so I guess that fits the "mafia letting town destroy themselves" so I'll try to be more active before deadline today, although from what I'm reading from the filter I still don't like Vivax's play... not sure if it's enough to autolynch him anymore but we'll see


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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22086 Posts
June 07 2017 14:24 GMT
#1527
On June 07 2017 23:20 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2017 23:18 Vivax wrote:
On June 07 2017 22:55 Conversion wrote:
On June 07 2017 22:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 07 2017 22:41 Conversion wrote:
OK I just woke up and I'll be reading through filter's since it looks like Vivax actually posted something since the last time I read.

@BTDT Could you actually make a read on me/PB/ritoky? I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on us 3 tbh and I'm interested in being evaluated for my play so far, which hasn't been stellar because this whole claiming play just made the game unfun for me so I took a longer break.

Also where is PB? He promised to be more active and has posted nothing so far. Can I get a list of your reads so far? I'll post mine soon after this post.

My filter has reads on ritoky and PB and I think even on you :O


I meant in your thought experiment Also your point on me was "where am I" and here I am! Honestly I was F5'ing the thread pretty hard since my last post but nothing was happening so I went away from the thread and am catching up now.

Also realized I didn't really make a lot of posts, so I guess that fits the "mafia letting town destroy themselves" so I'll try to be more active before deadline today, although from what I'm reading from the filter I still don't like Vivax's play... not sure if it's enough to autolynch him anymore but we'll see


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Hi, do you want to actually make comments instead of linking GIFs? Unlike you I'm actually trying to learn how to play games in different situations and you aren't helping.

Did you think that was a slip? I'm literally quoting what someone else said

Was that a bad thing to mention as town because it makes me look suspicious?


You are adorable it just makes me facepalm that you unconsciously refer to yourself as mafia so i posted a gif
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22086 Posts
June 07 2017 14:25 GMT
#1529
And LS I was hoping to cut off the hydras head in one clean swipe with that play but it backfired.
Aaaahhhh but you will look back and think "if we only lynched him that day already".
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22086 Posts
June 07 2017 23:49 GMT
#1730
Just lynch HF tomorrow.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22086 Posts
June 07 2017 23:57 GMT
#1738
I fully expect BH to bus HF at full speed very soon if I'm right btw
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