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On June 06 2017 04:39 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2017 04:36 Grackaroni wrote:We can start from the beginning. Every single mention of Fidei in your filter. On June 04 2017 04:00 ritoky wrote:
fidei what are your reads on LS and HF? On June 04 2017 14:33 ritoky wrote:i think the town is something like; me, tube, vivax, hf; and tentatively conv and pb fidei has like....almost exact opposite reads of me. dunno what to think about that.
reading LS mafia, what else is new for me. On June 05 2017 05:45 ritoky wrote:
i have to drag 3 kids under 3 to the grocery store in 45 mins which may be a 2 and a half hour experience. so i would like to figure this shit out. not interested in voting hf or vivax. not particularly interested in voting bh. i don't think my vote is well placed on btdt atm after he emotion carded me.
lookin at TW, grack, fidei, maybe PB, maybe ls btdt has done nothing to change my opinion, still think he is probably mafia. tw doesn't make a whole lot of sense. defending grack for ???? defending grack from spooky ghosts pushing him???? missed joke early. says "mindmeld" then doesn't say what the mindmeld was. mafia pile. grack made a joke while being yelled at by BH, so he gets half a town point; but otherwise he hasn't done jack esp for a 2 page filter. actually i just looked at his filter and i take his half point back cuz he doesn't really have any posts pushing the game forward. BH has been disappointing. i expected RNG -> a play or snowball it into some reads. if that was it, he could be mafia. onegu...flip a coin. On June 05 2017 03:55 ritoky wrote:On June 05 2017 01:23 Holyflare wrote:
LS what do you think if Fidei putting me in a mafia list with Tumblewood? I would like an answer to this. On June 05 2017 08:58 ritoky wrote:
people are voting fidei cuz? And then you come back when people are pushing me and act like me not having a read on Fidei is a good point when you said nothing about him all game. I mean the difference between me and you is that I basically had no read on fid, and if you want the real reason for that it is because fid posted shit about london in the community thread so i kinda felt like i should just give the benefit of the doubt that there's shit going on there. while you had a read strong enough to potentially call hf mafia for not having the same read, then proclaimed that it wasn't strong and you were content voting on fid.
That's not my point. You were opportunistically calling me out for leaving him off my list when you didn't talk about him at all. The twisted narrative from your second post about me makes me think this is less likely hypocrisy and more likely scum motivated.
I would have been willing to vote for Conversion or Prison Break who I both called town earlier in the day. A large part of the reason that Fidei got voted is that he disappeared for a long time and that has a big influence since my reads change relatively frequently.
I had a lot of chances to shenanny to somebody else at the end of the day. I defended TW. I defended HF. I defended LS. If I wanted to save Fidei I could have given a defense of him and came out looking fine but I didn't want to lynch Tumblewood.
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On June 06 2017 04:42 Holyflare wrote:
I mean let's get down to the crux of it. I was right on Fidei and Grack was bad.
Also you look bad for pushing TW and Fidei and then dropping that push after TW fell through. But I don't care about you right now because I have to yell at Ritoky.
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Also actually Prison Break looks good because I remember he had the smart reads on day 1. Ritoky was the one who shifted me more towards thinking Btdt was scum than Fidei even though they both actually had pretty bad posts.
On June 04 2017 08:48 Prison Break wrote:
Voted beentheredonethat
Didn't like his initial "response" to me + his follow-up.
"shame on everyone who scumreads me D1. Everyone should know by now that I'm simply bad at this game."
Excuse to not take responsibility for bad plays so people aren't allowed to scumread him based on "bad play"
also a lot of other excuses for no play
"I'll check this thread every now and then for the next 4-8 hours but don't expect too much"
"no I haven't read the last 3-4 pages in a serious manner
yes I'm going to bed now
no I'm not scum"
this is lazy play at best, but I could see it being scummy play as well. making a few pushes, laying low, mentioning it multiple times which could be overcompensating (afraid people will look into it? we're in the beginning stages of the game so I doubt this many excuses are needed)
saying he's not scum obviously isn't a solid defense either
also to clarify my stance on Fidei86, I think what he did could be scummy, and "moving the game forward" was a possible counterargument. But I'm not saying he's actually moving the game forward, it was something I was considering at the moment and wanted to give more time. Fidei86 instantly gave beentheredonethat towncreds (while multiple people were suspicious of it), which stands out, as well as beentheredonethat "attacking me" after I "attack" Fidei86. Possible scumteam?
My 2nd choice to vote right now would be Fidei86. I think both Fidei86 and beentheredonethat are good vote choices right now.
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On June 06 2017 04:58 Holyflare wrote:
PB is the guy that bussed me 24/7 last game and won it for us so I have no idea why you think his meek push makes him town when you were in that game
That was a bad bus though.
This sounds incredibly stupid for me to say now but imagine that I am town when I say this. Those are the two reads that I think I should have had at that point on day 1 and I'm realizing that the reason that I shifted more towards Btdt than Fidei was because of what Ritoky had said.
Obviously I can't prove this because I didn't put him in my scum list and all I said was that he was overly town read but those were the "smart reads" for that point in time and PB had them.
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On June 06 2017 05:00 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2017 04:50 Grackaroni wrote:On June 06 2017 04:39 ritoky wrote:On June 06 2017 04:36 Grackaroni wrote:We can start from the beginning. Every single mention of Fidei in your filter. On June 04 2017 04:00 ritoky wrote:
fidei what are your reads on LS and HF? On June 04 2017 14:33 ritoky wrote:i think the town is something like; me, tube, vivax, hf; and tentatively conv and pb fidei has like....almost exact opposite reads of me. dunno what to think about that.
reading LS mafia, what else is new for me. On June 05 2017 05:45 ritoky wrote:
i have to drag 3 kids under 3 to the grocery store in 45 mins which may be a 2 and a half hour experience. so i would like to figure this shit out. not interested in voting hf or vivax. not particularly interested in voting bh. i don't think my vote is well placed on btdt atm after he emotion carded me.
lookin at TW, grack, fidei, maybe PB, maybe ls btdt has done nothing to change my opinion, still think he is probably mafia. tw doesn't make a whole lot of sense. defending grack for ???? defending grack from spooky ghosts pushing him???? missed joke early. says "mindmeld" then doesn't say what the mindmeld was. mafia pile. grack made a joke while being yelled at by BH, so he gets half a town point; but otherwise he hasn't done jack esp for a 2 page filter. actually i just looked at his filter and i take his half point back cuz he doesn't really have any posts pushing the game forward. BH has been disappointing. i expected RNG -> a play or snowball it into some reads. if that was it, he could be mafia. onegu...flip a coin. On June 05 2017 03:55 ritoky wrote:On June 05 2017 01:23 Holyflare wrote:
LS what do you think if Fidei putting me in a mafia list with Tumblewood? I would like an answer to this. On June 05 2017 08:58 ritoky wrote:
people are voting fidei cuz? And then you come back when people are pushing me and act like me not having a read on Fidei is a good point when you said nothing about him all game. I mean the difference between me and you is that I basically had no read on fid, and if you want the real reason for that it is because fid posted shit about london in the community thread so i kinda felt like i should just give the benefit of the doubt that there's shit going on there. while you had a read strong enough to potentially call hf mafia for not having the same read, then proclaimed that it wasn't strong and you were content voting on fid. That's not my point. You were opportunistically calling me out for leaving him off my list when you didn't talk about him at all. The twisted narrative from your second post about me makes me think this is less likely hypocrisy and more likely scum motivated. I would have been willing to vote for Conversion or Prison Break who I both called town earlier in the day. A large part of the reason that Fidei got voted is that he disappeared for a long time and that has a big influence since my reads change relatively frequently. I had a lot of chances to shenanny to somebody else at the end of the day. I defended TW. I defended HF. I defended LS. If I wanted to save Fidei I could have given a defense of him and came out looking fine but I didn't want to lynch Tumblewood. I don't think I did this. What I said was: 1) your read on fid was strong enough that you accused hf of potentially being mafia just for not sharing the same read as you -> then later you claimed to not have a strong read on fid at all. so then why is hf potential mafia for not sharing a weak read of yours? 2) you wanted to lynch onegu minutes before sheeping his read. 3) you wanted to lynch onegu, then pb, then and only after those didn't materialize and there was an obvious tide flocking to fid did you move to fid. to me that indicates that you wanted the shennanie to land on other people first. And regarding "I change my reads frequently" that's really not a good thing sometimes, what have you done for me recently is kinda a crappy heuristic. Sometimes people just do shit that makes them town or mafia forever.
No that's exactly what you did now you're just moving the goal posts:
On June 06 2017 04:04 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2017 16:13 Onegu wrote:
Grack leaves out Fword dude in his list post. But Fword dude has posted much and grack should have a opinion on him but doesnt...
i still like this too. maybe i should read gracks filter
That HF accusation for still thinking Fidei was mafia couldn't have been all that strong seeing as I defended HF at the end of the day. I didn't say it in the post (and I certainly would have if I were mafia) but another part of that post was that I also thought TW was town and just had the sense that HF may be mafia for pushing the wrong people.
My vote on Fidei had nothing to do with Onegu. I voted him because Tumblewood voted him.
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On June 06 2017 05:07 ritoky wrote:
? so i made a good case on btdt that convinced you to consider him, before he made the emotional play, thus i am mafia?
i am town therefore i am mafia?
can we lynch inside the vote tomorrow? i know we shouldn't but can we please?
No you're mafia for the twisted narrative you're trying to place on me.
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lol BH is actually town. It's still his fault for not making townie posts before this.
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On June 06 2017 06:41 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2017 06:40 Grackaroni wrote:
lol BH is actually town. It's still his fault for not making townie posts before this. ??? what's my "fault"? We lynched scum D1, everything went great, I don't know why you'd seem displeased with the D1 outcome... ...unless... 
Me being wrong is your fault 
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Quick guys we need to switch our Night kill to Holyflare.
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I was a bit surprised they killed Onegu but I don't think it's terrible. Maybe they thought TW was veteran or something.
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He left bread crumbs last game too. He does this every time.
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On June 06 2017 09:13 Holyflare wrote:
Also grack I'm sorry you rolled mafia this game buddy. Thanks for telling me there's no rber though.
Maybe Onegu got vigged and I failed with the RBer and you're already confirmed.
I think that must be it.
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On June 06 2017 09:52 Holyflare wrote:
Nah this is boring. I rescind.
The fact tw didn't die annoys me and probably means it's bh or vivax.
SLIP
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I'm voting for Ritoky mushrooms.
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Actually I'm pretty sure Btdt rage quit for an entire cycle in the last game he won as scum
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But Ritoky did something hypocritical so there's 100% chance of a shit fight this cycle.
First he came for the Tumblewood and I didn't care because I'm not the Tumblewood.
Then he came for the Lightningstrike and I didn't care because I'm not the Lightningstrike.
But then he came for me. This time it's personal.
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On June 06 2017 12:10 Prison Break wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2017 12:01 Grackaroni wrote:
But Ritoky did something hypocritical so there's 100% chance of a shit fight this cycle.
First he came for the Tumblewood and I didn't care because I'm not the Tumblewood.
Then he came for the Lightningstrike and I didn't care because I'm not the Lightningstrike.
But then he came for me. This time it's personal. So you're here for self-preservation only? Or am I reading this wrong.
Yes.
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EPT
