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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 11 2017 01:16 GMT
#2696
On (T)JuNe 11 2017 09:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On (T)JuNe 11 2017 09:35 Holyflare wrote:
Well one person outs as (P)BluE so that narrows down your pool a lot.

lol Ritoky isn't stupid.


I fully expect him to still kill me. But there is another blue out there.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 11 2017 09:20 GMT
#2701
Btdt is definitely without a doubt mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 11 2017 09:27 GMT
#2702
He had a really bad day 1

He pushed the newbies for irrelevant things all game and is still doing it

He called ritoky not town not long ago for no reason and never followed up on it:

ritoky can very well be scum and I'd like to retract my initial townread. my d1 townread on him was super yolo anyways, actually it's super easy to push D1 btdt.

His appearance around D2 flip time was super bad, he's not really contributing etc.


He said ritoky's checks make sense after talking about absolutely nothing to do with them:


If we cannot find out via coordinated night actions who the fake claim is, then I'd suggest we just lynch Tumble. ritoky claim makes a lot of sense, his checks make a lot of sense. If Tumble flips doc, HF should be the lynch straight away.


And then proceeded to just talk about nk scenarios instead.

Anyone putting any thought into the game could see ritoky's check didn't really add up at all but people talked to me about it and some were also skeptical. Btdt just ignored it to try and lynch me after tumble:

On June 10 2017 21:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
Tumble or HF are scum. Ezpz. I think its Tumble. Dunno why HF is all paranoid over ritoky

On June 10 2017 21:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
If tumble is doc, lynch hf with fire. Ezpz.


Ritoky slipped with his post on why someone was mafia, he put btdt's name there instead.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 11 2017 09:38 GMT
#2703
Conpare how btdt responds to ritoky's FULL ON MAFIA CASE:

On June 04 2017 23:17 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 03:53 ritoky wrote:
the person i think is most mafia right now is probably BTDT. i think his reads are cheap and hollow.

he defends TW for missing a joke "full frontal" (w/e the shit that means); when from my experience lacking a sense of humor is more mafia indicative than town.

he defends grack from vivax because of last game? he doesn't disagree with vivax that what grack is doing isn't more scum indicative, he just says "don't call him mafia cuz he said terrible things last game too". read as mafia trying to pocket/protect weak town a bit.

he prods the new player, which is easy for anyone to do.

he calls out PB for sounding wishy-washy....but that makes no sense to me. he has a read on TW and grack from previous games, but not on PB. in the previous game PB was incredibly definitive and made tons of sense pretty much all game long. in this game PB sounds more unsure and makes less sense. it makes me think PB is more likely town, so why does PB sounding dissimilar to last game make him think PB is the same alignment as last game?

dunno....pretty much don't like anything of what he has posted.

"Lacking a sense of humor" and "not identifying the irony" are completely different things. The first thing is the absence of the capability to laugh about something. Like "Hey, wow, I don't think it's funny that you make an ironic statement about the number of posts in this game".
The second thing is "What the fuck are you talking about? There haven't been many posts in this game, why do you say there were many posts in this game?!"

The second thing is exactly what happened. TW missed the irony. He simply "didn't get it". He did not find it "not humourous", he missed the joke. That is NAI at best. If you have your judgment there from "experience", then please point me to some games where you have made those experiences in. You've shown already you're willing to dig filters from other games, so go ahead.

Yes, I have defended Grack and your interpretation of that is entirely possible. Not much to say against that. But it's of course possible that you interpret it that way because you want to scumread me. It's also entirely possible that I simply said this to make Vivax aware of something - especially since Grack was in LYLO in generic II and half the obs QT was sure he was scum. So much to that .

What does "prods the new player" mean? As you might've realized, I'm not a native speaker.

PBs reads at that point are wishy-washy, ritoky, and if you call that a solid read, then you're misrepresenting things.

If there are more questions towards me coming from that case, feel free to ask, I'm here.



To how he has acted when someone else has called him mafia throughout the game.

On June 04 2017 23:03 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 00:13 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think pb's posts are anywhere near the same and he's asking for help how to play. Your post is way too over the mark.

Hm okay. I like that point of view because you've been scum with him in generic II, so you're quite capable of judging it imho.

I rate the "LS votes HF" thing townish for LS.

ritoky is super investing into the HF filter quoted by LS which is a super town tell IMHO, I wouldn't put in that effort if I was scum. But I do know I'm lazy so.. meh, maybe ritoky isn't. But that plus the fact that ritoky fearlessly pushes around people (me), keeps on adding value etc, he's on the town pile.


Super town, but maybe he isn't..... Oh actually yeh!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 11 2017 09:47 GMT
#2704
Btdt did not once mention my argument about fidei being mafia early day 1.

Btdt literally said the statement "i don't know what hf's done this game, he's pushed nothing" after effectively sheeping my case d1 on tw and then destroying vivax.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 11 2017 10:27 GMT
#2708
Ritoky has already outed as mafia hahahahahahahaha

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 11 2017 10:28 GMT
#2709
On June 11 2017 19:26 beentheredonethat wrote:
Hf claims, softclaims, wishywashy claimy, hard claims, so much confusion and back and forth. I have a green check from ritoky on me, the gf is dead and there is no framer in.

Holy moly hf if I am scum, then ritoky must be scum with me.



PLZ

PLZZZZ

BIGGEST BLUNDER OF 2017


PLZZZZZZZZZ
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 11 2017 10:29 GMT
#2710
I have never been so certain of something in my life. This game is over.

I'm so certain that you should in fact lynch btdt BEFORE ritoky. You don't lose any mislynches I don't think and the game will be over far far quicker.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 11 2017 10:30 GMT
#2712
On June 11 2017 19:29 beentheredonethat wrote:
Ritoky will be roleblocked this night of course so HF can try to talk himself out of the lynch.

Hf, you're dead


I know, your team mate already said he's gonna kill me.

:D :D :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 11 2017 10:31 GMT
#2715
Yes, because you did.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 11 2017 10:32 GMT
#2716
I'm confirmed town, people are without a doubt going to sheep me now. Ritoky has only made me stronger.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 11 2017 10:32 GMT
#2717
I have 14 hours to convince my herd to follow and kill you. Shouldn't be too difficultyou absolutely have to defend yourself.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 11 2017 10:35 GMT
#2719
Only mafia cares about their team outing.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 11 2017 10:38 GMT
#2723
Ok
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 11 2017 10:38 GMT
#2724
I'm sorry you feel that way. I made a case against you so refute it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 11 2017 10:46 GMT
#2730
Here's the thing about ritoky's checks. He would have checked LS and Grack n1 if he was actually real and thought about it. So why did he in fact leave out LS from being green checked and instead make a non-believable check on yourself?

The answer is simple. You are his team mate. His plan is to possibly survive and potentially add more people to his green list for "auto". These remaining people would thus have to fight against fake red checks.

Ls isn't extremely capable if that and one of the easiest people to mislynch. Free mislynch.

2 newbies are relatively similar.

So why shoehorn a weird check on you that doesn't make sense in context? Because you are his team mate. He's not going to green check you as the bastion of town play to defend you, like Grack potentially would so you are only there as a stuck on team mate play.

I'm sorry you got outed by your team mate, that's really frustrating but it's just the way it is.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 11 2017 11:01 GMT
#2733
Yeh nobody thought btdt was mafia but he is
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 11 2017 11:02 GMT
#2734
Nobody is 100% town though. I think pb is close to it though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 11 2017 11:10 GMT
#2735
You highlight a lot of reasons why btdt is mafia though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 11 2017 11:19 GMT
#2736
Tomorrow you will have 5vs2

You should lynch not ritoky because tomorrow will be 100% dead discussion and tube, your biggest asset right now, will die.

Lynching someone else is the most productive thing you can do. It doesn't change how many mislynches you get.
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