EPTNewbie Student Mafia XXVI - Page 3
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so the scenarios can be: TW is doctor HF is vigi, makes it a balanced set up because we don't have a mislynch. Fidei is godfather to mindgame town into trying to figure out if there's a cop or not. We have 3 claims. A doctor, vigi, and third role (most likely cop?). In which case we try to figure out who's fakeclaiming in this case (my suspicion goes to TW because like.. dude you're not doing anything and you probably fakeclaimed to save yourself and maybe try to out the real doctor as well) I mean I don't really want to give TW a pass but if no one else is claiming, he is the real doctor, right? Or is a one blue, RB/godfather setup likely as well? Sorry for the questions, and thanks for answering them grack/LS! Just making sure I understand this stuff before I make a push based on things happening before | ||
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initial view is that I want to believe HF/ritoky are the correct claims and TW is a lazy, dodgy, I-fly-under-the-radar scum, but I should look into it more. also what does crumb mean? does that mean leaving little clues in that your play is centered around your role, but not actually revealing it, helping you when you do blue claim down the line? good to know that BTDT and Grack returned green. I really hope PB is just a town bickering with a town BTDT in that case, which leads to a TW/HF/ritoky-LS team at a small glance at my initial thoughts post before N2 ended. | ||
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I understand HF and BH, but why you? well I sort of don't understand either HF or BH because I had them as pretty strong town reads. the only reason I kept doubts for them was because people were talking about how HF could pull off this sort of play as scum and the possibility of a HF-BH scum team might have been there. but why you? what do we solve in checking you, who's been inactive and not contributing much? to get rid of an AFKer out of our mislynch pool? but why not me, PB, BTDT, even tumblewood? what gives us more information in checking you over any other "suspicious" townie | ||
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On June 09 2017 03:17 LightningStrike wrote: If you are vig shoot into me HF or BH. If you are a cop check into me HF or BH. That way the game is solved easier for us. Here's the actual quote if you want it | ||
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who are your strong town reads aside from BTDT and grack assuming they are confirmed town? do you believe ritoky is fake claiming as a possibility? or HF? or TW? what's your opinion besides stating the obvious scenario | ||
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On June 09 2017 12:05 LightningStrike wrote: Me so I wouldn't be a question mark BH so we got better info about Day 1 HF so we know if he's town or not since he plays a strong scum game. ya but let's say the cop was BTDT and he had 5 question marks. why check you over any of the other 5? | ||
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On June 04 2017 14:33 ritoky wrote: i think the town is something like; me, tube, vivax, hf; and tentatively conv and pb fidei has like....almost exact opposite reads of me. dunno what to think about that. reading LS mafia, what else is new for me. btdt has done nothing to change my opinion, still think he is probably mafia. tw doesn't make a whole lot of sense. defending grack for ???? defending grack from spooky ghosts pushing him???? missed joke early. says "mindmeld" then doesn't say what the mindmeld was. mafia pile. grack made a joke while being yelled at by BH, so he gets half a town point; but otherwise he hasn't done jack esp for a 2 page filter. actually i just looked at his filter and i take his half point back cuz he doesn't really have any posts pushing the game forward. BH has been disappointing. i expected RNG -> a play or snowball it into some reads. if that was it, he could be mafia. onegu...flip a coin. D1 read on BTDT, claims him as scum. once he is unsure because of the emotional play, he checks BTDT, and drops the entire case on BTDT and gives small town reads on him afterwards. D2 ritoky argues with Grack, finds him suspicious, checks him. claims D3, confirmed cop. either he's mindfucking me and set this up since D1 with scum, or he's actually cop. I'm inclined to believe he's more cop than HF/TW lying about their claim. TW who did you try to save N2 and did you get RB'd? | ||
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On June 09 2017 12:13 LightningStrike wrote: He was having second thoughts on me I think? Just so he get a confirmed read right. At least I know PB was having second thoughts sort of about my alignment. I mean on the flip side, he could be confident that you're mafia and is trying to figure out the second one, so he reads grack. grack turns out to be town, now he's sure you're teamed with mafia and possible +1. He's looking to see if there is any way his claim can make a possible scum realm within blue claims, so maybe he waits a little bit (or he's busy, seems like he's a busy person). he sees HF claims vigi, ritoky sees this and claims cop, mafia team is you-TW, checkmate mafia? that might have been his thought process when making that play. so what makes you not mafia? like no offense you have 11 pages of filter and I'm not seeing you doing anything | ||
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Ritoky is actually cop. Reading through his filter and his claim, the play makes sense. It backs mafia into a corner because now they have to scramble to justify their fake blue claim and try to sheep town onto the correct claim. So it's basically HF vs Ritoky. Ritoky is very much likely to die N3 I think. If I was scum, I'd want to shoot Ritoky or RB him (if there is a roleblocker) to prevent any more information getting out for D4, otherwise we can just leave the blue shit behind us and find the last mafia and have ritoky check HF or TW and town wins the game. Obviously mafia won't do that, so we should focus on this day figuring out who is scummates with HF or TW, and lynching him. I might be wrong, but I think mafia may try to tunnel all their focus on pushing the focus of D3 into who is the blue claim liar, and try to misdirect town into mislynching the correct blue claim and killing off ritoky. I think that's the best mafia player here, which is why I suggest we pressure non-blue claimed players and finding the last scummate. More likely than not whoever is mafia is going to either fight really hard to keep attention off his last scummate, or bus him and try to play out of a 50/50 lynch chance with 4 townies and 1 scum. Any thoughts? I may be missing something | ||
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On June 05 2017 08:01 Tumblewood wrote: well if half the game has gone to bed then it seems i didn't do any harm. honestly i don't trust anyone in this game to make a good decision besides vivax, grack, and bh, even if i start shitting town rainbows. just lotsa people who read people for bad reasons. with two hours i can argue myself out of a 4-3 situation but not 6-2 without a claim | ||
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Unless ritoky is bamboozling us in which case we lose, but if he's not dead N3 he's probably scum | ||
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