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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 01:26 GMT
#2127
To the latter
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 09:48 GMT
#2201
On June 09 2017 17:52 ritoky wrote:
From a 0 context set-up point of view I think cop-doctor makes more sense than cop-vigi. That said I have no knowledge of how kita rolls his setups and if it is in role packages or if he RNGs 1-4.

The major problem I have with HF being mafia is that I am like 60% sure he has had a blue read on me for most of the game. And the fact that I was not dying or getting roleblocked after having that feeling from him makes me have severe doubts.

HF, you kept saying TW could not be the doctor, which means you had a blue read on someone who was it?


I didn't really have a blue read on you I had a stronger town read and every time I tried to figure out who to shoot n2 I read their filter and was like fuck this shit this guy looks townie. This happened to:

Grack/conversion/ls/pbtoanextent/tubesock/btdt

Grack and btdt in particular I spent reading a lot of their database games to compare and they were quite different to their mafia ones. LS i read the one grack said about him being the meta king and i read that game and he was throwing free town reads all game which was different to him being clueless here. PB i still feel is majorly different to last game and tube says cool things all game/jumped on fidei so freely.

Then there's the circumstances that tw claimed under. I'm pretty fucking good at this game and my case was legit on tw. He made some fake bh meta and instead of claiming doctor he COULD HAVE JUST RESPONDED TO THE META POINT AND BEEN FREE. Then n1 he didn't die and I was super fucking paranoid about him and spent the day trying to get the other blue to somehow claim (even though i know that's dumb) so i could be sure.

When vivax fake claimed I called it ironic because I was actually blue and that's why I was able to fake fake claim. I kept telling pb to believe in tw being mafia because it's what i felt.

Tw being mafia makes sense because I'm genuinely lost this game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 09:57 GMT
#2202
This game just got good again :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 09:57 GMT
#2203
For the record I fully believe it's ritoky.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 10:02 GMT
#2204
Wait wait no i don't fully believe that. In your read post you were saying you already thought the anger made btdt town and you spent the night arguing with LS and made an LS vote at d1 and you started suspicion on grack.

So why didn't you check ls or grack n1 when you didn't think btdt was mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 10:10 GMT
#2205
On June 06 2017 04:03 ritoky wrote:
looking outside the ppl who voted mafia:

i think PB's post about his reaction to the lynch is pretty similar to mine, although him never delivering on his promised reads is meh. he came to the same conclusion i did about the 3 people i think are town because of the lynch and he looks toward the same spot i do for the mafia on the wagon (grack + ls). but when he starts saying things that make tons of sense to me, it's kinda the opposite of why i had him town leaned earlier.

btdt played the emo card on me and i am hard pressed to get over that. i think his filter and play isn't particularly townie, but he played the emo card....

conv is certainly not particularly useful at the moment, but i don't get the sense that he is malicious or mafia. i told him "stop doing this and give me reads." and then he immediately produced reads that seemed genuine; so i have a difficult time thinking he's mafia.

then vivax....i guess vivax COULD be mafia? but then i been pretty wrong this game. but doesn't vivax just see the runaway train and bus his partner for the nickle or dime's worth of credit he would get? i would have.


Last post no suspicion. Followed by endless grack suspicion. You checked btdt first though??
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 10:48 GMT
#2207
I'll buy it.

Got any questions for me? I suggest to all the haters that you read my filter somehow with the mindset that I'm blue. Makes a lot more sense.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 11:35 GMT
#2208
On June 05 2017 03:37 Holyflare wrote:
Like I don't even care if BH does end up being mafia. Why waste your time even talking about him? He's pretty much a coin flip.

Why not Tumblewood who declared BH town based on meta straight away? Who has also town read Grack (who has still done nothing) and has also tried to retroactively justify his grack town read? Who said Tubesock's posts were bad and got the joke after it was explained but still berated him even though he called him town.

Why not fidei who has reads that contradict anything he should be thinking? Who put myself and Tumblewood in the same scummy pile but then realised he didn't actually acknowledge anything I had said and pleaded ignorance after the fact. While pushing the guy I wanted to lynch with my same reasoning.

Why not like 60% of this game really?


I mean if tw is mafia my day 1 was incredible.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 11:50 GMT
#2209
Reading my filter is amazing. I'm very good.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 12:06 GMT
#2212
On June 09 2017 21:02 Conversion wrote:
just woke up

@ritoky honestly the reason why I don't see the need for a blue lynch is that we can just have HF shoot TW. If mafia RBs HF and kills him, TW looks bad and we get another read with your cop powerz. If you die and no one got shot, HF isn't vig and we have our scum between TW and HF.

IDK maybe I'm missing something again


This could work.

Tw save ritoky
I shoot tw
Ritoky check someone

Is it possible they no shoot though to frame?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 12:08 GMT
#2213
I really think we just prove how good i am and lynch tw though
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 12:11 GMT
#2215
http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/mafia/522886-newbie-student-mafia-xxvi?user=Holyflare&page=6

Just read this onwards. It's great.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 12:11 GMT
#2216
And also around his claim you can 100% see I'm blue already calling him out.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 12:35 GMT
#2221
There's no framer in the game.

If mafia hold their shot it frames someone.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 12:48 GMT
#2225
And even then if tumble is the real doctor and they can't hold shot they could just stack with my shot too

I think we just go with my amazing case though

Tw thought it better to claim doc than answer the simple question of what games he read for bh to be town
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 12:49 GMT
#2226
There's something in my mind that keeps telling me ritoky has fake claimed before though but i can't remember where and semi town read him anyway
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 13:01 GMT
#2227
On June 09 2017 21:49 Holyflare wrote:
There's something in my mind that keeps telling me ritoky has fake claimed before though but i can't remember where and semi town read him anyway


And i mean specifically cop with checks
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 15:37 GMT
#2235
Ok op says that mafia can't hold their shot. I'm more than comfortable shooting someone absolutely at random to prove myself so that we lynch between ritoky/tumble the next cycle.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 15:39 GMT
#2238
And lol the bh about to turn on me. I was trolling him at deadline, I didn't actually scum read him.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 15:45 GMT
#2241
On June 10 2017 00:42 Prison Break wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 00:39 Holyflare wrote:
And lol the bh about to turn on me. I was trolling him at deadline, I didn't actually scum read him.


But did he scumread you?


No he just said I'm capable of this play at mafia but town read me with hesitance. Which is the correct play to hedge.

Your point about tw saving me and then scum reading me is excellent btw.
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