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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 04 2017 01:01 GMT
#249
On June 04 2017 09:58 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 09:04 Tumblewood wrote:
specifically I mean grack is probably town. every game I see grack getting scumread by other townies but never really pushed, but he always comes through with the sort of analysis that's right on the money once or twice

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 09:29 Tumblewood wrote:
for the record, Hf, I have seen a small glimmer of mindmeld. I will continue to read grack as I see fit and you all can take a chill pill



I want to highlight how disingenuous this second post is by the way. The first post Tumblewood references that Grack is town because he always post gems of analysis when he is town, which Grack has done none of.

The second post states that TW has small glimmers of mindmeld with Grack. None of this was referenced at all previously in his reason to town read Grack. It was only when he got called out.

Please point to where you mindmeld with Grack, TW.

Be quiet HF. He's just trying to sneak in a town read read on me early so that if he gets lynched off I can get a free pass for being spewed like last game.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 04 2017 01:08 GMT
#254
HF what is your read on BH?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 04 2017 12:50 GMT
#300
On June 04 2017 21:09 Holyflare wrote:
How on earth is my LS argument scummy/bad when:


B) it's something I think makes him look bad.
A) I'm not even calling him mafia for it.

By switching the ordering of the bullet points. HF/LS+1. Got ya scummo.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 04 2017 13:05 GMT
#303
LS/HF wasn't serious. I'll write something up about why I disliked Btdt's post.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 04 2017 13:26 GMT
#305
On June 03 2017 23:21 beentheredonethat wrote:
Tumblewood missing Tubesock's joke in disformation fashion, full frontal. I rate that as a towny thing.
The joke itself is kinda NAI, too, but then again, why would scum start to push ahead a game when they can just rely on a lackluster game start with the EU people still asleep? I feel like Tubesock is town here, too.

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On June 03 2017 10:42 Prison Break wrote:
RNG votes are cool, an RNG lynch seems horrible, doesn't give any information and turns the game into auto + there's no way to actually check if it's random and you don't know if the person determining the "random" factor is town or scum either

This post feels super weird. First of all, you're here as a newbie, you're not supposed to judge if something's "cool" or not, right? The content of your post is supercorrect yet super obvious, so you do not add any value at all to the discussion.

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On June 03 2017 16:15 Vivax wrote:
Early reads:

Tube town for pushing game forward and being proactive.
TW town for lashing out at something he didn't like and avoiding his scum play lazy buddying. It looked overly emotional to me but he claims it wasn't.

Grack scum for being lazy, passive and kind of just reacting to things around him without attempting to reach a satisfactory conclusion or looking like he wanted to. Neither shitpost-y grack nor tryhard-y grack. Just bore-y grack.

Rest null.

I do agree with this post. Except I wouldn't put Grack on the scum pile yet because in Generic II, he played like this all game and was town.

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On June 03 2017 21:31 Conversion wrote:
Hi all!

I'm here-- generally a hectic weekend personally so apologies that I was late!

That's all fine and dandy but if you've been here for about an hour, why aren't you posting?

In the second line he tags one of the most generic posts possible as "super weird"

I also didn't like that he goes out of his way to quote Vivax to say that he agrees with something that he had just said at the top of his post.

Nagging someone to contribute at the end adds to the perception that he's trying to fluff up contributions. Plus I generally find pestering people to post annoying. Also he called me a baddie.

It actually wasn't as bad of a post as I thought though because his whole schtick in the next post is that PB is making fluff posts, which is a fair argument. That may be what he meant by super weird in the second line.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 04 2017 13:33 GMT
#307
On June 04 2017 22:31 Fidei86 wrote:
But isn't there a pretty good argument that it was weird that PB took BH's RNG nonsense so seriously? It jarred with me too. It's pretty thin gruel for a scum read. And the rest of your case is pretty garbage - where do you actually come out on your read?

No because that's a bad argument and those don't make good arguments. I don't see how writing a couple of lines about RNG is taking BH too seriously.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 04 2017 13:42 GMT
#309
My point has nothing to do with newbies. Talking about rng after someone proposes rng isn't weird.

I don't think he's as scummy as earlier but still a decent lynch.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 04 2017 13:48 GMT
#311
Yeah.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 04 2017 13:58 GMT
#313
Because he hasn't analyzed anything and spent all his time shitting up the thread over something that was blatantly false from my filter.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 04 2017 14:24 GMT
#319
On June 04 2017 23:17 beentheredonethat wrote:
What does "prods the new player" mean? As you might've realized, I'm not a native speaker.

He's talking about you asking conversion to post.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 04 2017 14:41 GMT
#332
HF might be scum for still thinking Fidei is scum. It's hard to be that self-righteous as scum. I think I gave him/her an asthma attack.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 04 2017 14:43 GMT
#336
On June 04 2017 23:38 Holyflare wrote:
I play 100% of the time on my phone nowadays. It's not that difficult to do, especially with autocorrect and swiftkey remembering my most used words. If he types b/c a lot then that would be easy to do.

Regardless you're trying to make an absolutely ridiculous point that he's lying about being on a phone but to what end does he need to do that?

That's why they pay you the big bucks.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 04 2017 14:51 GMT
#337
I have a feeling that TW is town too even though his read on me makes no sense.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 04 2017 20:37 GMT
#482
On June 05 2017 05:30 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2017 05:20 Vivax wrote:
On June 05 2017 05:16 Holyflare wrote:
On June 05 2017 05:14 Vivax wrote:
On June 05 2017 05:11 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax here's what you are going to need to do to prove I'm mafia defending BH.

Just real simple. Link games where BH has done an RNG push and said nothing about the game or solved it day 1 and been mafia.

That's a really really really simple task.


No I'm not getting pushed into arguing through association just cause you want it.
My arguments for either of you being mafia are to be treated as your alignments being independent from each other.

The reason you're mafia is that you are just trying to be in my way when I'm obviously town and trying to direct the attention to something else.


your whole fucking case on BH being mafia is that he had the opportunity to solve the game but didn't

but he's never done that and YOU KNOW IT

scummy fuck jesus christ


Liar:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/484076-assassination-mafia?user=Blazinghand&view=all

Lynched Day 2

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483428-noir-mini-mafia-chapter-3?user=Blazinghand&view=all

Lynched Day 1 - POSTING HUGE WALL OF TEXT ANALYSIS POSTS


Assassination Mafia - 0 RNG lynch proposed, only starts any semblance of analysis at day 2 of game.

Noir Mini mafia - 0 RNG lynches proposed.

Here's the relevant ones that I mention when I say sometimes he just does nothing and that makes him a complete coin flip:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?user=Blazinghand

Blazinghand, shot night 2 - pushes joke posts in favour of his RNGd lynch - town

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/496215-mini-mafia-the-kinda-vanilla-experience?user=Blazinghand

Blazinghand - [M][N] Mini Mafia: The kinda Vanilla Experience Mafia Vanilla Survived Day 6 - RNG into analysis with a 20 page filter

it's not as cut and dry as you make it out to be at all and none of your links contained his RNG








[M][N] Mini Mafia: The kinda Vanilla Experience Mafia Vanilla Survived Day 6 - 20 page filter of content
[T] Aperture Mafia 4: This Time it's Personal Mafia Inspector G. Lestrade Survived Night 4 - 13 page filter of content

the point you raise that BH isn't posting content and is therefore mafia is bull shit because the last 2 games he has been mafia he has in fact been posting content non-stop


If you look more closely most of the content BH posted in those games was just joking around to push through his RNG lynches on Rayn/Obviousone. I think it's pretty clear that if he tried that in this game it wouldn't have been well received by this player list.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 04 2017 20:44 GMT
#491
On June 05 2017 05:39 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2017 05:37 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 05 2017 05:30 Holyflare wrote:
On June 05 2017 05:20 Vivax wrote:
On June 05 2017 05:16 Holyflare wrote:
On June 05 2017 05:14 Vivax wrote:
On June 05 2017 05:11 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax here's what you are going to need to do to prove I'm mafia defending BH.

Just real simple. Link games where BH has done an RNG push and said nothing about the game or solved it day 1 and been mafia.

That's a really really really simple task.


No I'm not getting pushed into arguing through association just cause you want it.
My arguments for either of you being mafia are to be treated as your alignments being independent from each other.

The reason you're mafia is that you are just trying to be in my way when I'm obviously town and trying to direct the attention to something else.


your whole fucking case on BH being mafia is that he had the opportunity to solve the game but didn't

but he's never done that and YOU KNOW IT

scummy fuck jesus christ


Liar:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/484076-assassination-mafia?user=Blazinghand&view=all

Lynched Day 2

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483428-noir-mini-mafia-chapter-3?user=Blazinghand&view=all

Lynched Day 1 - POSTING HUGE WALL OF TEXT ANALYSIS POSTS


Assassination Mafia - 0 RNG lynch proposed, only starts any semblance of analysis at day 2 of game.

Noir Mini mafia - 0 RNG lynches proposed.

Here's the relevant ones that I mention when I say sometimes he just does nothing and that makes him a complete coin flip:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?user=Blazinghand

Blazinghand, shot night 2 - pushes joke posts in favour of his RNGd lynch - town

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/496215-mini-mafia-the-kinda-vanilla-experience?user=Blazinghand

Blazinghand - [M][N] Mini Mafia: The kinda Vanilla Experience Mafia Vanilla Survived Day 6 - RNG into analysis with a 20 page filter

it's not as cut and dry as you make it out to be at all and none of your links contained his RNG








[M][N] Mini Mafia: The kinda Vanilla Experience Mafia Vanilla Survived Day 6 - 20 page filter of content
[T] Aperture Mafia 4: This Time it's Personal Mafia Inspector G. Lestrade Survived Night 4 - 13 page filter of content

the point you raise that BH isn't posting content and is therefore mafia is bull shit because the last 2 games he has been mafia he has in fact been posting content non-stop


If you look more closely most of the content BH posted in those games was just joking around to push through his RNG lynches on Rayn/Obviousone. I think it's pretty clear that if he tried that in this game it wouldn't have been well received by this player list.


yes

he did that as town

like pushing the thing on you this game

no?

No the last two games that Vivax linked he actually analyzes instead of RNGing. In the last two scum ones he pushes for the RNG lynch instead of analyzing.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 04 2017 20:56 GMT
#511
On June 05 2017 05:53 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2017 05:51 Vivax wrote:
On June 05 2017 05:48 Holyflare wrote:
your statement is that BH only tries to solve the game as town
but he did it as mafia
ergo vivax is pushing misinformation and lies
ergo

vivax is mafia

no?


Find a game where he did literally nothing like this game, as town. You or BH can do it.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461330-noir-mini-mafia-chapter-2?user=Blazinghand&view=all

page 1 and the first bit of day 2 are day 1 of that game and he was so up for lynch he was forced to claim blue day 1

checkmate

Ok this link checks out.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 04 2017 21:13 GMT
#534
On June 05 2017 05:56 ritoky wrote:
grack who is mafia?

Not sure. I don't see any major slips anywhere.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 04 2017 21:15 GMT
#538
On June 05 2017 06:14 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2017 06:13 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 05 2017 05:56 ritoky wrote:
grack who is mafia?

Not sure. I don't see any major slips anywhere.


TAKE A GUESS

it's like pulling damn teeth this game

I did guess. The BLAZINGHAND.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 04 2017 21:17 GMT
#544
I don't think HF/BH is a team at all though since HF wouldn't commit so hard to saving somebody that's likely to get killed off later anyway.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 04 2017 21:19 GMT
#548
On June 05 2017 06:18 Holyflare wrote:
plzzz
I'm almost forced to town read ritoky for being the only one seeing sense in this game and I don't want to do that

You're pushing Vivax for going against your reads which you don't even care about anymore because Vivax is scummier for opposing you?
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