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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 20:04 GMT
#2300
On June 10 2017 05:03 Holyflare wrote:
You're mafia you used meta.

How does using meta make me scum? You used meta too on PB so what makes mine different?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 20:05 GMT
#2302
BTW ritoky's doctor filter from Town's Revenge: http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/mafia/518289-im-a-cop-you-idiot-mafia-towns-revenge?user=ritoky
This was when he revealed his bread crumbs:
On February 14 2017 07:30 ritoky wrote:
ritoky blatantly talking about optimal save strategies in thread:

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2017 06:02 ritoky wrote:
On February 11 2017 00:59 Palmar wrote:
Nice, new page good time to post optimal play guides:

@Doc: Do not claim your role until lylo (don't claim in mylo). I'm going to assume Malongo is a troll, not a retard. If he is genuinely doc and mafia believes him, he basically reduced our chance of winning from super likely to very unlikely.

Also @Doc, tread carefully with wifom. TL players are retarded and like to go for homeruns. I know it's going to be tempting to not protect me (or LS, if you're bad at life) tonight, but you really, really should protect me. It's optimal play for mafia to shoot into the 4 people that might be doc (aka, not me or the 2 scummers), because they should be assuming that I'm protected, which is the reason I claimed in the first place.

Yes, if you play optimally, your protection is "wasted" because mafia will shoot into town, BUT, I've seen mafia go for broke often in this setup (basically gamble the doc will try a big play, and just straight up shoot the cop). I am going to super mad if I die tonight.


I think there's an argument to be made that once the cop is CC'd protecting either is not the optimal play because mafia shooting either results in a 1 for 1 trade of cop for mafia which in this setup seems fine for town. It also keeps the doctor save "live" in the event that mafia doesn't want to shoot into the cop and trade, which optimally they won't do because it is a net loss.

But I suppose arguing optimal play semantics is not really for this thread.


ritoky thinking he softed too hard and is gonna die:

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2017 06:57 ritoky wrote:
was nice playing with you guys for a little bit again. i fully expect to die in 3 mins.




ritoky reacting to Malongo's claim:

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On February 11 2017 08:16 ritoky wrote:
On February 11 2017 07:56 Damdred wrote:
On February 11 2017 07:51 ritoky wrote:
Also LS, why is rels a higher priority check for you than Damdred, when they essentially made the same read on you?


I like this question. Like ls usually you like to have me confirmed at any point as you Wifom your way into he'll on me half the time.But it doesn't matter I'll be confirmed town soon anyway.

@LS and Rit what do you think of the doctor claim and the way he went about it?

That question for everyone who wants to answer.


i don't think he's the doctor. if i had to hazard a guess i think he is vt being a bonehead trying to do some kind of convoluted play that does more harm than good.

if he comes in an says "yo i am doctor, never rescinding, never back down" in his next posts, then i think he is mafia on the grounds he claims doctor and save target instantly and then turns around and calls LS scum cuz dumb/bad. at that point i just have to assume his level of hypocrisy and poor play makes him mafia.


ritoky pushing for Mal to hard claim so he can cc:

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2017 10:10 ritoky wrote:
On February 11 2017 10:01 Malongo wrote:
On February 11 2017 09:48 ritoky wrote:
k, so it is damdred or malongo. malongo, you claiming doctor and never rescinding?

Theres no reason to confirm/deny at this point.

Still reading the thread, I really hate that somehow both DTs checked rels.


Why not? Palmar and LS are binary, rels is confirmed green, I am never mafia. If you have a way to confirm yourself as town through claim then damdred becomes confirmed mafia who we can immediately lynch.


we good here? we good.

May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 20:06 GMT
#2303
On June 10 2017 05:05 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 03:24 Holyflare wrote:
Calling someone inconsistent when they're inconsistent is a mafia trait yo.

Ls I'm calling you out this game. If you're town I want you to play it without using a single meta link. I'm gonna make you evolve.


I showed I could play without meta Jesus Christ man...... Why not shoot you like I told you to idiot?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 20:06 GMT
#2304
I don't even care just shoot me next night I can't be bothered with you going to keep calling me scum just because I used meta.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 20:07 GMT
#2306
LIKE FUCKING SHOOT ME NEXT NIGHT HF I FUCKING TOLD YOU TO SHOOT ME LAST NIGHT PHASE.................
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 20:08 GMT
#2309
Going to jsut afk vote TW I done with game.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 20:16 GMT
#2314
On June 10 2017 05:15 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen LS rage and say fuck as town

STEP ON A LEGO YOU FAGGOT
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 20:30 GMT
#2325
On June 10 2017 05:17 Holyflare wrote:
LS link me some meta where you rage quit as town?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/505463-tl-mafia-lxxiv-storm-mafia-3?user=LightningStrike&page=25
Last post for the game................
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 10 2017 01:14 GMT
#2439
You know what I very sorry HF about lashing out like that I just been in a terrible mood because of OGI reasons at the time. I calmed down now after playing some Pokemon TCGO and watching tv. Willing to help now:
On June 10 2017 06:01 Prison Break wrote:
LS how certain are you that I'm town?

95% unless you improved your scum game from last time which I don't think you could improve your scum game leaps and bound that much in 1 game.
Also yes I did insult you in my last game vs you HF but I was mainly insulting your law school more or less as scum trying to tilt you.
Anyways HF why you decided you need to die now instead of just lynching TW?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 10 2017 01:20 GMT
#2442
On June 10 2017 10:19 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 10:14 LightningStrike wrote:
You know what I very sorry HF about lashing out like that I just been in a terrible mood because of OGI reasons at the time. I calmed down now after playing some Pokemon TCGO and watching tv. Willing to help now:
On June 10 2017 06:01 Prison Break wrote:
LS how certain are you that I'm town?

95% unless you improved your scum game from last time which I don't think you could improve your scum game leaps and bound that much in 1 game.
Also yes I did insult you in my last game vs you HF but I was mainly insulting your law school more or less as scum trying to tilt you.
Anyways HF why you decided you need to die now instead of just lynching TW?


Ibonly want to die so tw dies with fiery vengeance.

I guess but it would be better if we just lynch TW here and now honestly.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 10 2017 01:25 GMT
#2446
On June 10 2017 10:23 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 10:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2017 10:19 Holyflare wrote:
On June 10 2017 10:14 LightningStrike wrote:
You know what I very sorry HF about lashing out like that I just been in a terrible mood because of OGI reasons at the time. I calmed down now after playing some Pokemon TCGO and watching tv. Willing to help now:
On June 10 2017 06:01 Prison Break wrote:
LS how certain are you that I'm town?

95% unless you improved your scum game from last time which I don't think you could improve your scum game leaps and bound that much in 1 game.
Also yes I did insult you in my last game vs you HF but I was mainly insulting your law school more or less as scum trying to tilt you.
Anyways HF why you decided you need to die now instead of just lynching TW?


Ibonly want to die so tw dies with fiery vengeance.

I guess but it would be better if we just lynch TW here and now honestly.


Do it. I think you're town so sorry for trolling you.

Meh I over react all the time :\ Doesn't help I can't tell the difference >.>
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 10 2017 02:40 GMT
#2480
On June 10 2017 11:34 Holyflare wrote:
Ritoky makes a case on LS being mafia, says his vote on LS was mafia, links all of LS's posts to fidei and says he's mafia, makes a case on Grack from onegu's comment and says we should lynch grack right at the end of n1. All of these posts are n1. His btdt read is:

Show nested quote +
btdt played the emo card on me and i am hard pressed to get over that. i think his filter and play isn't particularly townie, but he played the emo card....


But he checks btdt over two STRONG scum reads.


Even with this I still am pretty sure you're the mafia.

To be fair on ritoky he did check Grack night 2 who he was tunneled on. But ya I would think he would of checked me night 1 as well.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 10 2017 02:50 GMT
#2486
On June 10 2017 11:41 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 11:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2017 11:34 Holyflare wrote:
Ritoky makes a case on LS being mafia, says his vote on LS was mafia, links all of LS's posts to fidei and says he's mafia, makes a case on Grack from onegu's comment and says we should lynch grack right at the end of n1. All of these posts are n1. His btdt read is:

btdt played the emo card on me and i am hard pressed to get over that. i think his filter and play isn't particularly townie, but he played the emo card....


But he checks btdt over two STRONG scum reads.


Even with this I still am pretty sure you're the mafia.

To be fair on ritoky he did check Grack night 2 who he was tunneled on. But ya I would think he would of checked me night 1 as well.


If you're making a cop play of course you're going to say you checked the guy you're tunneled on? He leaves you as a mislynch because you're very lynchable.

True didn't think of that honestly.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 10 2017 21:08 GMT
#2593
On June 11 2017 06:06 Holyflare wrote:
Grack ninja vote alert.

But Grack was green checked he could do what he wants :o
Anyways this is the end game when TW flips scum:
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 10 2017 21:14 GMT
#2596
On June 11 2017 06:12 Grackaroni wrote:
Those are pretty crappy crumbs to be honest. Telling me that I'm barking up the wrong tree was supposed to signal that you're blue?

I didn't gain all that much from the TW/HF arguments. I do think that HF has picked up his game in this one compared to the last one.

I wouldn't be opposed to lynching into Lightningstrike/Tubesock if people get cold feet on lynching a blue claim, since mafia will probably kill off one of the claims narrowing our odds tomorrow.

Well I was trying to tell the blues to get on me ie the potential cop or vig night 2 :o
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 11 2017 03:23 GMT
#2699
Just got home and I see TW actually flipped doctor and ritoky just claimed scum while HF recides his claim. WTF is this game.....
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 11 2017 18:40 GMT
#2789
Just got back home from lunch after waking up at 11:00 am CST:
On June 12 2017 03:29 Conversion wrote:
yo LS whenever you're around can I get some thoughts on the situation and how we should approach our D4 lynch?

I think you're town but you not being here is not helping me or anyone that's town

We lynch ritoky first but while lynching him we do need to figure out the last scum between you and btdt. If we got a cop should check btdt. If we got a vig they should shoot btdt I think that will solve the game for us from that point.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 11 2017 18:43 GMT
#2791
On June 12 2017 03:41 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2017 03:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got back home from lunch after waking up at 11:00 am CST:
On June 12 2017 03:29 Conversion wrote:
yo LS whenever you're around can I get some thoughts on the situation and how we should approach our D4 lynch?

I think you're town but you not being here is not helping me or anyone that's town

We lynch ritoky first but while lynching him we do need to figure out the last scum between you and btdt. If we got a cop should check btdt. If we got a vig they should shoot btdt I think that will solve the game for us from that point.


I'm tempted to just wagon myself and have myself lynched and flip town so BTDT can look stupid on D4 because he seems to lack any sort of skill to build up a case on anyone besides the person replying to him

Like I said we just need to have a cop check or a shot on btdt so we could win the game most likely. I think it it will pretty easy from this point.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 11 2017 18:51 GMT
#2793
On June 12 2017 03:45 Conversion wrote:
I'm going to pitch a question I'm trying to think of myself, LS, if you don't mind.

anyone else here can answer as well:

what do you think, if ritoky is Mafia, that the chances are with ritoky setting me up for a mislynch (and anyone else on his "auto list") with him reading me as town and BTDT pushing me as hard, albeit feebly, as he is this night and next day?

like I'm actually seeing no effort from BTDT except him yelling at me saying I'm inactive and I'm not making contributions, while his filter is all just lots of shit thrown everywhere and hoping it sticks to a wall, so not sure how that's any sort of case built on me.

the only thing that's bugging me is would ritoky actually include his own scummate in his auto list AND his cop check list?

Same chances as him trying to setup a mislynch on me because I was his biggest scumread Night 1 yet he didn't "Check" me. So that being said it's very possible he was setting up a mislynch on you if you are town.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 11 2017 20:00 GMT
#2815
On June 12 2017 04:44 Holyflare wrote:
Whatever I'll just shoot btdt. Still scum reading everyone.

Wait I thought you unclaimed?
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