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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 08 2017 18:23 GMT
#1892
On June 09 2017 03:22 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 03:21 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2017 03:20 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 09 2017 03:19 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2017 03:19 beentheredonethat wrote:
The really weird thing is that it's almost day 3 and I cannot remember any scumreads nor any pushes from Holyflare.

He pushed TW and Vivax.....

The Vivax push doesn't count imho. D2 started with Vivax claiming cop and redcheck HF. HF was obliged to scumread Vivax.

He was pushing Vivax Day 1 well before the fake claim....

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On June 09 2017 03:19 beentheredonethat wrote:
EBWOP

On June 09 2017 03:19 beentheredonethat wrote:
The really weird thing is that it's almost day 3 and I cannot remember any scumreads nor any pushes from Holyflare.

Of course not saying there aren't some (before angry HF jumps my throat) but I don't think HF every bothered actively pushing for someone in a memorizable way*

EBWOP, once again

Well I remembered just you not memorable for you I guess (shrugs).
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 08 2017 18:43 GMT
#1901
On June 09 2017 03:37 Holyflare wrote:
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On June 09 2017 03:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2017 03:02 Holyflare wrote:
On June 09 2017 01:57 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2017 01:16 Prison Break wrote:
EBWOP

(I'm basically asking you why you're townreading others over me)

At the time I didn't read your filter and I don't think you're scum. I still got HF still as a scum read Conversion some of his stuff comes off weird espcally his reaction to Vivax's lynch and tryign to defend himself for some reason about being on a team with you was impossible. If I wrong on any of my townreads maybe BH or Grack. Their fight seemed off idk from which side though.


But why am i ever your scum read? That's totally unexplained.

I explained it before?????? I really started t odislike you when you were "Trolling" me towards the end of the day plus now you been wrong on TW and Vivax being scum with TW beign the a doctor and Vivax being VT. I know better than that as town.


The dude fucking fake red checked me. Of course I'm going to lynch him.

And tw isn't gonna be the doctor.

Okay I will forgive you on the Vivax part but why are you very convinced that TW is not the doctor?????
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 08 2017 18:44 GMT
#1902
On June 09 2017 03:40 Blazinghand wrote:
Hmm you know what the worst part about Vivax flipping town is, is that now people will use this to claim RNG isn't good

It was never good when I played with you :o
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 08 2017 18:47 GMT
#1904
On June 09 2017 03:46 Blazinghand wrote:
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On June 09 2017 03:44 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2017 03:40 Blazinghand wrote:
Hmm you know what the worst part about Vivax flipping town is, is that now people will use this to claim RNG isn't good

It was never good when I played with you :o

Yeah see if Vivax had flipped scum I'd be able to rebut you super duper hard right here

I mean hit town more with your RNG when I played with you :o
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 08 2017 19:05 GMT
#1914
On June 09 2017 03:55 ritoky wrote:
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On June 09 2017 03:17 LightningStrike wrote:
If you are vig shoot into me HF or BH.
If you are a cop check into me HF or BH.
That way the game is solved easier for us.


interested in your justification for these

Me so that way I wont be a question mark.
BH because it will give us more information about Day 1.
HF so we know his alignment and can figure the game easier.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 08 2017 19:06 GMT
#1915
On June 09 2017 04:04 Holyflare wrote:
Didn't someone say he did that as scum though? Where was that

Grack mentioned he went afk for a cycle as scum before idk which game he talking about honestly.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 00:48 GMT
#2115
Okay I finally back after doing some laddering on Pokemon TCG Online and I see BH got shot by scum from the sound of things and HF claimed Vig who didn't shoot yet. No wonder HF was calling TW mafia despite the claim. Kinda odd not to shoot someone Night 1 or Night 2 honestly especially I told you to shoot me HF so I wouldn't be a question mark :\ Well that means my townreads were terrible and should relook at them. No wonder HF was calling TW mafia despite the claim. Why not shoot Night 1 HF?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 00:50 GMT
#2116
Like I saw your reasoning for not shooting Night 2 just wondering why you didn't Night 1.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 00:53 GMT
#2117
TBH though my balance thoughts: I don't think Doc Vig is actually a balanced at all because The vig could be blocked or the scum shot would be blocked by the doctor which makes shooting as vig pretty much throwing darts hoping they not hit a target that getting saved or shot by scum,.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 00:56 GMT
#2120
On June 09 2017 09:54 Holyflare wrote:
Sample Setup:
1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Doctor, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon

The sample setup is theoretically what we have. Unless someone claims.

My shot was on you LS but then i cancelled it and shot no one to save a mislynch.

I sad you did canceled would of made the game easier on town Also I did note that but I don't think it's a balanced setup though for my listed reasons.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 00:59 GMT
#2122
On June 09 2017 09:53 Holyflare wrote:
Because we lose a mislynch.

Just did the math we would lose a mislynch like said I guess that's fair.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 01:00 GMT
#2123
On June 09 2017 09:57 Tumblewood wrote:
hmmmmm
everything lines up with hf being blue, except having a gf with no cop is a little weird. that could of course be one of those things they do to make the setup harder to figure out though

gf with no cop is stuff I seen other hosts do just to mind game town in a semi closed setup.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 02:19 GMT
#2132
On June 09 2017 11:14 Conversion wrote:
or is the setup Veteran/Doc/Vigi??

it's vig doc so far.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 02:56 GMT
#2146
On June 09 2017 11:43 ritoky wrote:
At work on break so I can't type much or go retrieve my crumbs from my filter, but BTDT & grack

Quick reasoning, my case on BTDT day 1 + he emo'd me and I didn't want to be fooled by it. Considered switching to grack or LS. Day 2 grack because obvious reasons.

Should of checked me damn it
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 02:57 GMT
#2147
So we got 3 blue claims TW, HF, and Ritoky.1 of them is definetly scum.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 03:04 GMT
#2151
On June 09 2017 11:53 Conversion wrote:
okay ritoky is cop so now we have three claims in TW/ritoky/HF.

initial view is that I want to believe HF/ritoky are the correct claims and TW is a lazy, dodgy, I-fly-under-the-radar scum, but I should look into it more.

also what does crumb mean? does that mean leaving little clues in that your play is centered around your role, but not actually revealing it, helping you when you do blue claim down the line?

good to know that BTDT and Grack returned green. I really hope PB is just a town bickering with a town BTDT in that case, which leads to a TW/HF/ritoky-LS team at a small glance at my initial thoughts post before N2 ended.

That pretty much what a crumb is. I did try to draw the cop and or the vig on to me so I wouldn't be a question mark honestly.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 03:05 GMT
#2152
On June 09 2017 12:00 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 03:17 LightningStrike wrote:
If you are vig shoot into me HF or BH.
If you are a cop check into me HF or BH.
That way the game is solved easier for us.


Here's the actual quote if you want it

Me so I wouldn't be a question mark
BH so we got better info about Day 1
HF so we know if he's town or not since he plays a strong scum game.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 03:12 GMT
#2156
On June 09 2017 12:02 Conversion wrote:
also I think everyone sort of knows that 3 blue claims is probably 1 scum so do you have anything else to add? who are your top scum reads out of the 3 and who are the remaining two scum?

who are your strong town reads aside from BTDT and grack assuming they are confirmed town?

do you believe ritoky is fake claiming as a possibility? or HF? or TW? what's your opinion besides stating the obvious scenario

I pretty sure ritoky is not lying the question becomes HF or TW for me . Grack or me would of been checks for ritoky so it makes sense he did check Grack I just didn't want to be a question mark. HF has been going after TW even after the claim so it makes some sense but I would of figured he would of shot but he wasn't confident due to math. Which leaves TW which he was being lynched until he claimed but claimed to been roleblocked which could be faked.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 03:13 GMT
#2157
On June 09 2017 12:06 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 12:05 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2017 12:00 Conversion wrote:
On June 09 2017 03:17 LightningStrike wrote:
If you are vig shoot into me HF or BH.
If you are a cop check into me HF or BH.
That way the game is solved easier for us.


Here's the actual quote if you want it

Me so I wouldn't be a question mark
BH so we got better info about Day 1
HF so we know if he's town or not since he plays a strong scum game.


ya but let's say the cop was BTDT and he had 5 question marks. why check you over any of the other 5?

He was having second thoughts on me I think? Just so he get a confirmed read right. At least I know PB was having second thoughts sort of about my alignment.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 03:17 GMT
#2159
On June 09 2017 12:15 Conversion wrote:
really? I read through ritoky and it seems his play seems to sort of center around his checks.

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On June 04 2017 14:33 ritoky wrote:
i think the town is something like; me, tube, vivax, hf; and tentatively conv and pb

fidei has like....almost exact opposite reads of me. dunno what to think about that.

reading LS mafia, what else is new for me.

btdt has done nothing to change my opinion, still think he is probably mafia.

tw doesn't make a whole lot of sense. defending grack for ???? defending grack from spooky ghosts pushing him???? missed joke early. says "mindmeld" then doesn't say what the mindmeld was. mafia pile.

grack made a joke while being yelled at by BH, so he gets half a town point; but otherwise he hasn't done jack esp for a 2 page filter. actually i just looked at his filter and i take his half point back cuz he doesn't really have any posts pushing the game forward.

BH has been disappointing. i expected RNG -> a play or snowball it into some reads. if that was it, he could be mafia.

onegu...flip a coin.


D1 read on BTDT, claims him as scum. once he is unsure because of the emotional play, he checks BTDT, and drops the entire case on BTDT and gives small town reads on him afterwards.

D2 ritoky argues with Grack, finds him suspicious, checks him.

claims D3, confirmed cop.

either he's mindfucking me and set this up since D1 with scum, or he's actually cop. I'm inclined to believe he's more cop than HF/TW lying about their claim.

TW who did you try to save N2 and did you get RB'd?

There was this post I think might of been him bread crumbing he was blue in the first place:
On June 06 2017 13:03 ritoky wrote:
vivax are you actually claiming for realsies? like never back down never surrender claiming? cuz i am kinda over people fake claiming and softing

He did something similar in I'm the Cop you Idiot Town's Revenge where he was the doctor trying to see if someone was really claiming or not.
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