• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:29
CEST 23:29
KST 06:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play1Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)63ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo31Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611
StarCraft 2
General
Is the larve respawn broken? Mizenhauer's Douyu Cup Preview ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) Possible bug in the new patch?
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) INu's Battles#17 <BO.9> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK #4 20-21th June
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed
Brood War
General
Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool BW General Discussion [BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June BSL Season 22
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST CSLAN 4 is Coming!
Strategy
Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9284 users

Newbie Student Mafia XXVI - Page 11

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 16 Next All
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 08 2017 18:23 GMT
#1892
On June 09 2017 03:22 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 03:21 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2017 03:20 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 09 2017 03:19 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2017 03:19 beentheredonethat wrote:
The really weird thing is that it's almost day 3 and I cannot remember any scumreads nor any pushes from Holyflare.

He pushed TW and Vivax.....

The Vivax push doesn't count imho. D2 started with Vivax claiming cop and redcheck HF. HF was obliged to scumread Vivax.

He was pushing Vivax Day 1 well before the fake claim....

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 03:19 beentheredonethat wrote:
EBWOP

On June 09 2017 03:19 beentheredonethat wrote:
The really weird thing is that it's almost day 3 and I cannot remember any scumreads nor any pushes from Holyflare.

Of course not saying there aren't some (before angry HF jumps my throat) but I don't think HF every bothered actively pushing for someone in a memorizable way*

EBWOP, once again

Well I remembered just you not memorable for you I guess (shrugs).
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 08 2017 18:43 GMT
#1901
On June 09 2017 03:37 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 03:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2017 03:02 Holyflare wrote:
On June 09 2017 01:57 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2017 01:16 Prison Break wrote:
EBWOP

(I'm basically asking you why you're townreading others over me)

At the time I didn't read your filter and I don't think you're scum. I still got HF still as a scum read Conversion some of his stuff comes off weird espcally his reaction to Vivax's lynch and tryign to defend himself for some reason about being on a team with you was impossible. If I wrong on any of my townreads maybe BH or Grack. Their fight seemed off idk from which side though.


But why am i ever your scum read? That's totally unexplained.

I explained it before?????? I really started t odislike you when you were "Trolling" me towards the end of the day plus now you been wrong on TW and Vivax being scum with TW beign the a doctor and Vivax being VT. I know better than that as town.


The dude fucking fake red checked me. Of course I'm going to lynch him.

And tw isn't gonna be the doctor.

Okay I will forgive you on the Vivax part but why are you very convinced that TW is not the doctor?????
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 08 2017 18:44 GMT
#1902
On June 09 2017 03:40 Blazinghand wrote:
Hmm you know what the worst part about Vivax flipping town is, is that now people will use this to claim RNG isn't good

It was never good when I played with you :o
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 08 2017 18:47 GMT
#1904
On June 09 2017 03:46 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 03:44 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2017 03:40 Blazinghand wrote:
Hmm you know what the worst part about Vivax flipping town is, is that now people will use this to claim RNG isn't good

It was never good when I played with you :o

Yeah see if Vivax had flipped scum I'd be able to rebut you super duper hard right here

I mean hit town more with your RNG when I played with you :o
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 08 2017 19:05 GMT
#1914
On June 09 2017 03:55 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 03:17 LightningStrike wrote:
If you are vig shoot into me HF or BH.
If you are a cop check into me HF or BH.
That way the game is solved easier for us.


interested in your justification for these

Me so that way I wont be a question mark.
BH because it will give us more information about Day 1.
HF so we know his alignment and can figure the game easier.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 08 2017 19:06 GMT
#1915
On June 09 2017 04:04 Holyflare wrote:
Didn't someone say he did that as scum though? Where was that

Grack mentioned he went afk for a cycle as scum before idk which game he talking about honestly.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 00:48 GMT
#2115
Okay I finally back after doing some laddering on Pokemon TCG Online and I see BH got shot by scum from the sound of things and HF claimed Vig who didn't shoot yet. No wonder HF was calling TW mafia despite the claim. Kinda odd not to shoot someone Night 1 or Night 2 honestly especially I told you to shoot me HF so I wouldn't be a question mark :\ Well that means my townreads were terrible and should relook at them. No wonder HF was calling TW mafia despite the claim. Why not shoot Night 1 HF?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 00:50 GMT
#2116
Like I saw your reasoning for not shooting Night 2 just wondering why you didn't Night 1.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 00:53 GMT
#2117
TBH though my balance thoughts: I don't think Doc Vig is actually a balanced at all because The vig could be blocked or the scum shot would be blocked by the doctor which makes shooting as vig pretty much throwing darts hoping they not hit a target that getting saved or shot by scum,.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 00:56 GMT
#2120
On June 09 2017 09:54 Holyflare wrote:
Sample Setup:
1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Doctor, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon

The sample setup is theoretically what we have. Unless someone claims.

My shot was on you LS but then i cancelled it and shot no one to save a mislynch.

I sad you did canceled would of made the game easier on town Also I did note that but I don't think it's a balanced setup though for my listed reasons.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 00:59 GMT
#2122
On June 09 2017 09:53 Holyflare wrote:
Because we lose a mislynch.

Just did the math we would lose a mislynch like said I guess that's fair.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 01:00 GMT
#2123
On June 09 2017 09:57 Tumblewood wrote:
hmmmmm
everything lines up with hf being blue, except having a gf with no cop is a little weird. that could of course be one of those things they do to make the setup harder to figure out though

gf with no cop is stuff I seen other hosts do just to mind game town in a semi closed setup.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 02:19 GMT
#2132
On June 09 2017 11:14 Conversion wrote:
or is the setup Veteran/Doc/Vigi??

it's vig doc so far.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 02:56 GMT
#2146
On June 09 2017 11:43 ritoky wrote:
At work on break so I can't type much or go retrieve my crumbs from my filter, but BTDT & grack

Quick reasoning, my case on BTDT day 1 + he emo'd me and I didn't want to be fooled by it. Considered switching to grack or LS. Day 2 grack because obvious reasons.

Should of checked me damn it
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 02:57 GMT
#2147
So we got 3 blue claims TW, HF, and Ritoky.1 of them is definetly scum.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 03:04 GMT
#2151
On June 09 2017 11:53 Conversion wrote:
okay ritoky is cop so now we have three claims in TW/ritoky/HF.

initial view is that I want to believe HF/ritoky are the correct claims and TW is a lazy, dodgy, I-fly-under-the-radar scum, but I should look into it more.

also what does crumb mean? does that mean leaving little clues in that your play is centered around your role, but not actually revealing it, helping you when you do blue claim down the line?

good to know that BTDT and Grack returned green. I really hope PB is just a town bickering with a town BTDT in that case, which leads to a TW/HF/ritoky-LS team at a small glance at my initial thoughts post before N2 ended.

That pretty much what a crumb is. I did try to draw the cop and or the vig on to me so I wouldn't be a question mark honestly.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 03:05 GMT
#2152
On June 09 2017 12:00 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 03:17 LightningStrike wrote:
If you are vig shoot into me HF or BH.
If you are a cop check into me HF or BH.
That way the game is solved easier for us.


Here's the actual quote if you want it

Me so I wouldn't be a question mark
BH so we got better info about Day 1
HF so we know if he's town or not since he plays a strong scum game.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 03:12 GMT
#2156
On June 09 2017 12:02 Conversion wrote:
also I think everyone sort of knows that 3 blue claims is probably 1 scum so do you have anything else to add? who are your top scum reads out of the 3 and who are the remaining two scum?

who are your strong town reads aside from BTDT and grack assuming they are confirmed town?

do you believe ritoky is fake claiming as a possibility? or HF? or TW? what's your opinion besides stating the obvious scenario

I pretty sure ritoky is not lying the question becomes HF or TW for me . Grack or me would of been checks for ritoky so it makes sense he did check Grack I just didn't want to be a question mark. HF has been going after TW even after the claim so it makes some sense but I would of figured he would of shot but he wasn't confident due to math. Which leaves TW which he was being lynched until he claimed but claimed to been roleblocked which could be faked.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 03:13 GMT
#2157
On June 09 2017 12:06 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 12:05 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2017 12:00 Conversion wrote:
On June 09 2017 03:17 LightningStrike wrote:
If you are vig shoot into me HF or BH.
If you are a cop check into me HF or BH.
That way the game is solved easier for us.


Here's the actual quote if you want it

Me so I wouldn't be a question mark
BH so we got better info about Day 1
HF so we know if he's town or not since he plays a strong scum game.


ya but let's say the cop was BTDT and he had 5 question marks. why check you over any of the other 5?

He was having second thoughts on me I think? Just so he get a confirmed read right. At least I know PB was having second thoughts sort of about my alignment.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 09 2017 03:17 GMT
#2159
On June 09 2017 12:15 Conversion wrote:
really? I read through ritoky and it seems his play seems to sort of center around his checks.

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 14:33 ritoky wrote:
i think the town is something like; me, tube, vivax, hf; and tentatively conv and pb

fidei has like....almost exact opposite reads of me. dunno what to think about that.

reading LS mafia, what else is new for me.

btdt has done nothing to change my opinion, still think he is probably mafia.

tw doesn't make a whole lot of sense. defending grack for ???? defending grack from spooky ghosts pushing him???? missed joke early. says "mindmeld" then doesn't say what the mindmeld was. mafia pile.

grack made a joke while being yelled at by BH, so he gets half a town point; but otherwise he hasn't done jack esp for a 2 page filter. actually i just looked at his filter and i take his half point back cuz he doesn't really have any posts pushing the game forward.

BH has been disappointing. i expected RNG -> a play or snowball it into some reads. if that was it, he could be mafia.

onegu...flip a coin.


D1 read on BTDT, claims him as scum. once he is unsure because of the emotional play, he checks BTDT, and drops the entire case on BTDT and gives small town reads on him afterwards.

D2 ritoky argues with Grack, finds him suspicious, checks him.

claims D3, confirmed cop.

either he's mindfucking me and set this up since D1 with scum, or he's actually cop. I'm inclined to believe he's more cop than HF/TW lying about their claim.

TW who did you try to save N2 and did you get RB'd?

There was this post I think might of been him bread crumbing he was blue in the first place:
On June 06 2017 13:03 ritoky wrote:
vivax are you actually claiming for realsies? like never back down never surrender claiming? cuz i am kinda over people fake claiming and softing

He did something similar in I'm the Cop you Idiot Town's Revenge where he was the doctor trying to see if someone was really claiming or not.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 16 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Bombastic Starleague
20:00
GosuLeague Ro16 - Swiss
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
BRAT_OK 221
SpeCial 214
JuggernautJason113
mouzStarbuck 92
ProTech91
StarCraft: Brood War
Dewaltoss 130
ZZZero.O 74
Purpose 7
Dota 2
syndereN354
League of Legends
Doublelift2733
Other Games
summit1g6600
shahzam448
byalli419
ceh9342
ArmadaUGS98
Mew2King92
UpATreeSC49
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream2004
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 89
• musti20045 29
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 23
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie867
• Shiphtur334
Upcoming Events
Douyu Cup 2020
7h 31m
Neeb vs Impact
MacSed vs Cyan
Scarlett vs Kelazhur
INnoVation vs Dear
Big Brain Bouts
18h 31m
Jumy vs eGGz
Harstem vs sebesdes
TriGGeR vs HeRoMaRinE
Douyu Cup 2020
1d 7h
Maestros of the Game
1d 15h
herO vs Classic
Maru vs Serral
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
1d 16h
Douyu Cup 2020
2 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
2 days
Online Event
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Bombastic Starleague
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
OSC
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Bombastic Starleague
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-24
WardiTV Spring 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
Douyu Cup 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.