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On June 13 2017 02:20 beentheredonethat wrote:
Okay guys. Pretend for a second I'm not the last scum. Who would it be?
I definitely don't think it's conversion
I mean tubesocks posts seemed scummy and I thought he was scum, although that was based on the assumption that TW was scum and you and grack were cleared out. I don't scumread him anymore, but I did scumread him, so he'd be a possibility. Otherwise maybe LS. Don't think it's grack.
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On June 13 2017 02:41 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2017 02:32 Prison Break wrote:On June 13 2017 02:20 beentheredonethat wrote:
Okay guys. Pretend for a second I'm not the last scum. Who would it be? I definitely don't think it's conversion I mean tubesocks posts seemed scummy and I thought he was scum, although that was based on the assumption that TW was scum and you and grack were cleared out. I don't scumread him anymore, but I did scumread him, so he'd be a possibility. Otherwise maybe LS. Don't think it's grack. Okay, but Grack and LS both hammered Fidei. Tube was early on him, potentially a bus, and Conversion voted outside even. I would read neither Grack nor LS as scum because they hammered Fidei, finalizing the lynch on him.
right but you must admit conversion has been putting insane amount of effort
just filter him
I mean I thought he was scummy day 1, but he really convinced me he's town with his play
right I agree, after you tubesock would be most likely, but here's the thing: Ritoky traded himself, why? if it was ritoky+tubesock, and people were onto tubesock+TW, why would he trade? instead of trying to get HF killed tomorrow
I don't understand his play either way, but by this logic why did he trade? or did he just want to mindgame us to throw us off cause we were on the right track anyway?
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everyone still wants BTDT over Ritoky? may not be around at EoD so want to leave my vote on the lynch
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On June 14 2017 03:26 Grackaroni wrote:
It looks like he's probably going to be one of the lynches either way. I'm going to try to be less lazy today and see if I can find anything.
I'm a little nervous about you tbh because I know that you're clever enough to change up your play style from the last game.
Well isn't that the same way people were paranoid about HF, who also flipped town?
I guess go ahead and check my filter 10x, you won't find a thing.
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im here
but I see people still want btdt anyway
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On June 14 2017 08:15 Conversion wrote:
who's next on the scummy list for y'all if this guy surprises us with a town flip
Probably tube but id have to filter everyone again
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On June 14 2017 08:42 Conversion wrote:
the thing with PB is I think he played mafia on other forums before
TL is the only place I played mafia and my games are in the database
also my first town game was horrible I think I just AFKed the whole game and almost got mislynched
True, although I still had to get used to the meta and new players though
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We get 2 nightkills
One now, then we lynch ritoky,. then another one
I doubt the nightkills will be random.I'm not sure if we want to give out all our info for discussion as it may influence the nightkill
Everyone should definitely be doing the work - but be careful with how many conclusions / lynch orders you drop
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On June 14 2017 13:56 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 13:44 Conversion wrote:
like idk why you're pushing so hard on a case that's probably very unlikely. like you realize I'm not the only one who thinks you might be scum, right? like I'm just the one posting at this hour, or at all really That's why I'm talking to you cause pure here. I'll address the things PB says when he's around if he shows when I'm online too.
Ok I will still do this because I think you're never the nightkill anyway
I had you as scum and I quoted your posts, then HF also pointed out your posts were empty
I got distracted again with the TW townflip but you still make the most sense as scum to me
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Really I think beentheredonethat just played a bad game and he's going to blame me or get mad for lynching him / saying this but when his contribution is stuff like "lynch TW then HF" and tunneling me all game etc. + getting scumread based on content / play (really only reason people townread him was because he got emotional / mad rather than his actual play)
I got a bad feeling the moment he kept saying town lost etc. But still though he was scum despite it. Can't say I regret the lynch - so I will say I regret I scumread him the entire game because apparently I was wrong, for self-reflections sake
Beentheredonethat if you read this please don't get mad for getting scumread or lynched. Remember town is in the Dark and you tried to lynch townies as well (TW, HF, me, etc.) so imagine if everyone got mad at each other.... it's part of the game
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On June 15 2017 00:34 Conversion wrote:
pb can I get your thoughts on why tube is scum
Townread on you 3 + me thinking he was scum previously
I'll filter him again because last time i connected him to TW so it may not be as strong now; but I don't have a specific scumread on either you grack or LS tbh
But yea when you read through his early play he goes after a lot of townies, basically the reasons HF pointed out about the posts being empty. But I'll admit some posts make me townread him as well so idk tbh
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Also the way ritoky "listed" him and fidei
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I went through the voting thread to do a vote analysis (because I couldn't come to conclusions based
on posts / filters ). didnt'have as much time as I had hoped to but this is my legacy:
going to list the votes from people that are still alive mainly:
Day 1:
LightningStrike:
voted Holyflare
Grackaroni:
voted Blazinghand
Tubesock:
voted Blazinghand
Ritoky:
voted beentheredonethat
Onegu: voted Fide86, got killed
Fidei: voted Tumblewood
Blazinghand (2): Grackaroni, Tubesock
Tumblewood (2): Holyflare, Fidei86
beentheredonethat (2): Prison Break, ritoky
Grackaroni (1): Blazinghand
Fidei86 (1): Onegu
Not Voting (5): Conversion, Tumblewood, Vivax, beentheredonethat, LightningStrike
would (grack/LS town, LS or conversion scum) ever not vote blazinghand here? they may want to
stay away from tumblewood/beentheredonethat as to not stack all people on 1 mislynch
after BTDT voted conversion, ritoky switched to TW, btdt switched as well
Tumblewood (4): Fidei86, Holyflare, ritoky, beentheredonethat
Blazinghand (3): Grackaroni, Tubesock, Vivax
beentheredonethat (1): Prison Break
Grackaroni (1): Blazinghand
Fidei86 (1): Onegu
LightningStrike (1): Tumblewood
Not Voting (2): Conversion, LightningStrike
here, conversion/LS could've joined the blazinghand wagon easily
tubestock now unvotes, votes Tumblewood
Lightningstrike also votes tumblewood
/ tumblewood claimed blue /
tubesock unvote, votes beentheredonethat (not blazinghand)
HF votes LS, LS votes HF (typical OMGUS response)
tubestock unvote, votes vivax
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will list "all" votes now, cause it gets important here:
TW votes Fidei
conversion votes Prison Break
TW unvote -votes Prison Break
Tumblewood (3): Fidei86, ritoky, beentheredonethat
Blazinghand (2): Grackarono, Vivax
Prison Break (2): Conversion, Tumblewood
beentheredonethat (1): Prison Break
Grackaroni (1): Blazinghand
Fidei86 (1): Onegu
LightningStrike (1): Holyflare
Holyflare (1): LightningStrike
Vivax (1): Tubesock
here, fidei with 1 vote on him, grack with 1 vote on him, TW with the claim: likely go to targets are
blazinghand or myself ( if grack was already on blazing there's less options to "go to blazing" for scum)
tubesock unvote votes Fidei86
Tumblewood unvogtes votes fidei86
grackaroni unvotes votes Prison Break (trying to start another counterwagon?)
then grackaroni unvotes votes Fide86
lightningstrike unvotes vitoes Fidei86
at this point tubesock gets the most towncred for killing fidei, like he could've switched to a lot of people instead. grackaroni may look bad for the fliplop on me. lightning gets no townread at all here
Day 2:
lightningstrike votes TW
tubesock votes vivax
Grackaroni vote Ritoky, Ritoky votes Grackaroni
Conversion votes vivax
ritoky unvot votes vivax (does this mean tubesock/conversion look better? mafia showed not to be afraid
to stack votes on 1 person though)
Vivax (6): Holyflare, Blazinghand, Conversion, Prison Break, ritoky, Tumblewood
Holyflare (2): Vivax, beentheredonethat
ritoky (1): Grackaroni
Not Voting (2): Tubesock, LightningStrike
lightningstrike now goes after HF while tubesock goes after vivax
conclusions / final thoughts:
Tubesock -> gets towcred for killing fidei, really don't think he's scum anymore
lightningstrike -> natural omgus between him and HF could have a town motive, pretty null but not really a scumread
conversion -> yea he puts in effort / seems townie. wanted to know why I thought tubesock was scum, which can make sense from a town motive
grackaroni -> flipflop on me to fidei looks bad or good, but he earlier stated fidei was a bad lynch so he may look bad, but him voting ritoky and ritoky voting him looks good again (I think?). if i die, he has the least excuse to be alive
I may be wrong on tubesock, lightningstrike may be town
scum could be between conversion and grackaroni: grackaroni got greenchecked, has the least excuse to be alive, and both would explain the ritoky suicide (because scum felt confident the last scum could
solo)
I'd say: look into grackaroni, look into his interactions with Ritoky and check if that was good or not. If it looks scummy /set up, grack is the final scum for sure. LS may be a possibility but I could
see him being town as well
sorry this is really shitty legacy unless if grack's interactions with ritoky are bad (haven't had time to check them) then it's gold
gut = look into grack, if he looks town it's probably lightningstrike
I think Grack is the final scum if he doesn't die tonight
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damn everyone knew it was tubesock in both the game and the quicktopics and now we lose early cause of this?
I mean yeah everyone has a part in this ofc / shouldn't have let it come to final 3 to begin with
also conversion sucks that you got ill, and yea LS idk why didn't just let the game play out but shit happens I guess
a lot to take away from this game
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I also should've put in more effort after the BTDT lynch day / didnt filter the people I wanted to
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I voted 9 player games although ideally 5-6+ newbies per game is better, but I think making people wait months will scare them away
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