[M][N] Generic Mini Mafia II

On May 10 2017 16:22 Holyflare wrote:
Although not as much as before the grack interaction.

On May 11 2017 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare you have to understand that inconsistencies do not make people mafia. In fact it is more likely that a townie is inconsistent than that mafia is (this is obviously a case specific thing but especially on D1 and not much to work with it's way more likely that mafia tries to keep their story straight).

##unvote
##vote darthfoley

I am not sure if i can explain this more properly than i have before but i will try.
The thing is Grackaroni answered me regarding my concerns about him. Could he do that as mafia? Would he do that as mafia? Sure he could, most likely would. That doesn't however make him mafia. In fact it is more likely it makes him town because his train of thought follows what he says in his posts there.

Now i wouldn't probably even think df is scum if he didn't make the case in a way that he did. Being wrong or making a wrong conclusion of the above is not necessarily scummy. The point here is what darthfoley does is that he doesn't even evaluate the scumminess of the original act. He just contrasts it to meta and expects the "meta" to strenthen his argument even though he doesn't even have an argument in the first place. In a same way i could say for example the following:
- "Holyflare is scum because he asked why Grack is voting for Palmar and he never asks that as town."

Now who the fuck cares if Holyflare has done it as town before or not when the starting point of the argument is completely ridiculous (aka a thing that is not scummy the slightest)??? What darthfoley did there is he took some random argument, has no conclusion about the argument itself and then just painted it scummy "because Grackaroni doesn't do that as town". Furthermore, with a 100% certainty darthfoley has never ever seen me play with Grackaroni before so there should be no expectations on how Grackaroni should react to something i post as either alignment (there is where even the whole meta bullshit falls apart).

So there is that, now i am off to work.

On May 11 2017 06:34 Damdred wrote:
I powered through the thread while I was up.

To start off questions

@PrisonBreak (I believe), my initial assessment of LS scum etc was a joke. My follow up post of Rayns towniness was not a joke, it came from sort of bad reasoning as he can fake it potentially as scum. But I really liked that his first post was trying to discern who you were so that (presumably) he could better read you and come to a better conclusion. I would generally see thi scome from more town than scum as scum would not want that information really to come to life. But as I said it is partially a bad reason at that point.

As to people who said Damdred can do this as scum, YES! I can, I have and I will do it as both alignments. I've always tried to shape my game where I can do whatever I want from solving the game (or trying to), giving up teammates etc as either alignment. Though I know I still have some ticks as mafia I have a hard time getting rid of. But kind of meh about DF (I believe it was) who only looked at me negatively because of it.

As for my reads here we are:

These are the people i'm ok reading town currently

LS
Rayn
Palmar
Prison Break
Skynx

Maybe town:
Grack
HF

I would normally want to make a call about tumble, and my initial reaction to some of his off the collar commentary I think would come from his town game rather than his scum game. But I am horrid at looking at him so i'm just kind of ignoring him currently.

I disliked DF so far, Vivax has been awkward in some of his postings so far but I am not sure that it makes him scum currently.

Fuba is someone also that I think might be worth a look into later, initial reaction was he might be town just as a gut feeling. His reasoning for following PB I felt was a bit lakluster and was something i've seen mafia do to shift the blame to the person they sheep instead of taking personal responbility for it. Also him refusing to post reads to push the game forward bothered me, or rather him thinking they wouldn't push the game forward. I still sort of see him as a big bag of blah null for now.

Currently I just kind of want to lynch DF for some below average postings for him and him picking on me :'(

On May 11 2017 23:39 darthfoley wrote:
If anyone has questions for me, fire away. I'm an open book titled "If ya mislynch me, ya dun goofed." So ask my friends!

On May 12 2017 04:21 darthfoley wrote:


Eating lunch quickly

On May 12 2017 03:47 darthfoley wrote:


Also this. Calling my one or two comments early D1 on grack a "case" is misrepresentation or blatant misunderstanding.

On May 12 2017 05:34 darthfoley wrote:


I was AFK for the first half of D1. I've been more active today. Sorry for having a life. You're so toxic dude

On May 12 2017 05:45 darthfoley wrote:


Compromise onto fuba? Idk the dude hasn't done anything

On May 12 2017 05:47 darthfoley wrote:
i'm being voted on by rayn, TW, and damdred.

WHY DOES ANYONE THINK THIS IS A TOWN INFLUENCED WAGON

On May 12 2017 05:48 darthfoley wrote:


why the fuck is damdred town

On May 12 2017 05:50 darthfoley wrote:


please lynch this asshole after i flip green. even if he's the cop, he is butt cheeks at reading me and should be punished for it regardless of alignment

I disliked DF so far, Vivax has been awkward in some of his postings so far but I am not sure that it makes him scum currently.

On May 11 2017 06:43 Damdred wrote:


I do like this post from DF, HF.

He was also the first one to call out my post as summy I believe (?). But I am a little biased towards him currently eh...

On May 12 2017 05:53 darthfoley wrote:
Also just for the record, tw's vote on me is real bad

On May 12 2017 07:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I been trying to register for my fall semester since EoD that why I haven't been posting and quite honestly with how quickly the Damdred wagon formed it really wasn't a surprised that he flipped town and I really sad that I lynched him

Rayn berating the lynch was pure bullshit I will agree with HF there because Rayn would of got his lynch of choice if he stayed on DF and now he bitching people about the lynch and wont be bothered to play.
@DF: Town rainbows now? But seriously though do you think Rayn is scum art the moment based on his push on you?

On May 12 2017 07:42 darthfoley wrote:


Why would you have voted for me?

On May 12 2017 09:23 sicklucker wrote:
you never try to read me ls its really anoying . you mostly just sheep other people

On May 11 2017 18:43 sicklucker wrote:
of course were not lynching ryan. but why arnt we lynching ls?

grack
ls or someone I cant read like df or dandred.

one of those guys GOTTA GO

On May 12 2017 05:53 darthfoley wrote:
at least one of the people i'm pushing is mafia which is more than what I can say for you right now

I changed my vote because the people who were voting with me were not around and some people who were voting for Damdred were expressing concerns about Vivax. I didn't think there was a chance darthfoley gets lynched, i thought there is a chance people switch to Vivax.

On May 12 2017 22:42 Vivax wrote:


Why is rayn's post questionable?

On May 27 2017 07:09 darthfoley wrote:


Pretty much. PB had crumbs trailing back to HF for sure, but I agree with your analysis overall. Between Rayn rage quitting and many town just not giving a shit, town was really fucked.

Sad I died early, I wanted to play.