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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 20 2017 15:14 GMT
#2397
On May 21 2017 00:13 Holyflare wrote:
Are you kidding?

No.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 20 2017 15:16 GMT
#2399
On May 21 2017 00:14 Holyflare wrote:
I've just destroyed your reason to make a scum read between palmar and myself and your argument is that I'd be bothered to coach Tumblewood to be awful at mafia?

You or Palmar could.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 20 2017 15:19 GMT
#2403
On May 21 2017 00:19 Holyflare wrote:
You need to work on your stubbornness as mafia ls. This is like that game you got called out as being wrong/mafia and started insulting me. Pretty obvious.

I wasn't insulting you at all I was just stating things.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 20 2017 15:21 GMT
#2404
On May 21 2017 00:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2017 00:19 Holyflare wrote:
You need to work on your stubbornness as mafia ls. This is like that game you got called out as being wrong/mafia and started insulting me. Pretty obvious.

I wasn't insulting you at all I was just stating things.

Unless you mean n that game ya I was only insulting you to tilt you and here I trying to state some facts to you and yet you refused to work with me.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 20 2017 15:24 GMT
#2406
On May 21 2017 00:21 Holyflare wrote:
No but it's the same. You're saying I'd coach Tumblewood to be awful at mafia because admitting I'm right about Tumblewood is against your win con.

I sorry I not scum and I playing to my win con.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 20 2017 16:29 GMT
#2423
On May 21 2017 01:13 Prison Break wrote:
I kind of think LS is scum now instead of HF

But no way we're not lynching HF after everyone wants him dead + he retracted being doc

So vivax being doc, palmar being green checked. If it's not grack then it must be LS + SL

You can argue Palmar could of been framed which is why there is still a chance despite the green check he could be scum.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 20 2017 18:54 GMT
#2431
I willing to get lynched if it means you guys lynch HF and or Palmar after me just sayin.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 20 2017 18:56 GMT
#2432
Scum team for credit: HF SL TW
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 20 2017 20:02 GMT
#2457
Promise me tyou guys lynch HF or Palmar if I do get lynched.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 20 2017 20:04 GMT
#2459
On May 21 2017 05:03 Grackaroni wrote:
If LS is mafia he's already been bussed. At least from my perspective.

I not mafia therefore no one is bussing me.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 20 2017 21:04 GMT
#2481
Knew he was trying to tilt you guys into lynching me :D
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 20 2017 21:06 GMT
#2484
On May 21 2017 06:05 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2017 06:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Knew he was trying to tilt you guys into lynching me :D

you're not off the hook

Considering he done the same shit to GlowingBear in Carol of the Bells it does for the most part clear me.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 20 2017 22:12 GMT
#2502
On May 21 2017 06:09 Palmar wrote:
and tbh your day 2 vote looks the worst LS, you were randomly voted for a guy I told everyone was town and you were alone on that wagon.

I think I will enter the next day with the default view that you will be the lynch.

Go ahead and change my mind if you can.

I told you I wasn't around EoD so I couldn't change my vote and at the time I left we had 2 votes if I recalled on rayn so yes it looks bad but you gotta look at the context as well.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 20 2017 22:23 GMT
#2503
On May 21 2017 07:01 sicklucker wrote:
why the hell cant I find out what tumbleweed fliped. goons dead so whats left a rb or a framer? a framer is obv palmar

He was framer it just was edited out for some reason.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 21 2017 03:39 GMT
#2507
On May 21 2017 07:08 sicklucker wrote:
shouldnt be hard all three remaining potential mafia (ls , grack , fb) didnt even want to vote hf

I said I could lynch him or Palmar let me get that straight. I didn't vote him right away because I didn't know if we were going to lynch HF or not as we started the wagon on Palmar.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 21 2017 03:41 GMT
#2508
On May 21 2017 07:43 Grackaroni wrote:
Next lynch should be LS. If that fails we can figure things out from who's still left.

I willing to die so you guys can find the last scum.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 21 2017 12:44 GMT
#2585
I think people kind of forgot I actually did tried to push scum Day 1 in HF but my case wasn't good.
On May 11 2017 19:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke and I caught up. I think I want to lynch HF the more times I read his posts and him being very nitpicky he actually playing closer to his scum game that he played in the liquidmania qualifier game that I played with him and got mislynched Day 1 after playing mostly horrible Day 1 too. As scum Hf loves to be nitpicky on people as town he not very nitpicky at all. Sorry HF that you had to roll scum again vs me.
His filter from that game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?user=Holyflare
My filter from that game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?user=LightningStrike
##Vote: Holyflare

Only reason my vote ended up on Damdred was I couldn't get anyone to join me to lynch HF and didn't like the DF wagon. Oh well maybe I should of tried to push harder on his lynch.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 21 2017 17:35 GMT
#2591
On May 22 2017 02:11 Prison Break wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2017 20:44 Vivax wrote:
On May 21 2017 20:30 Vivax wrote:
In HFs world.

"Hey HF, let's lynch Palmar"
"nah I'm gonna go for these SL and LS guys instead"

If we assume Palmar is town, what was HF thinking?

(1) "I'm going to die before him and frame him with association on the off chance that they lynch him tomorrow herp"

(2) "I'm going to mislynch him, then I get killed by paranoid townies anyway derp"

Both scenarios result in his death. But scenario (1) is just straight out suicide which is what happened. HF killed himself this day. Indisputable fact.

And the only argument here for him to suicide here that you can bring from a perspective where Palmar is town, is that he wanted to frame Palmar by helping him. Palmar who voted for him without batting an eye when given the opportunity.

And the conclusion is:

Two ways out. Both with the same result for HF (one being mislynch Palmar while being alive, and one being mislynch Palmar after getting lynched) . And he chose the worst to achieve the same result he could have achieved by simply mislynching Palmar? That's where Palmar = town all falls apart.


This is what you call a checkmate by the way. Nobody can ever argue against this, it's cristalline, hard logic. While I understand the frustration for being scumread for this without a chance to defend yourself, it's the nail in the coffin and nothing else is required.


While this is indeed a strong argument that makes me want to consider Palmar again, there are 3 even stronger reasons why I won't, and they are:

- palmars green check which means even if he's mafia - there's only 33% chance he framed himself

- palmar has raised a good point where he said that HF is mafia, and based on palmars play himself it seems townie

- HF suiciding and wanting LS dead is something I interpret it as him trying to get people to townread LS and it's working. I also didnt like LS' posting that day

I don't think I'd ever vote palmar here

What if I told you HF as scum does tend to pick the low picking fruit to push and try to lynch them over his teammates?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 21 2017 17:43 GMT
#2593
On May 22 2017 02:38 Prison Break wrote:
The important question is if HF, TW and palmar are scum together: who would they frame?

Apparently not TW because of the red check. You'd assume they frame the same person every night for consistency' sake. So between HF and Palmar which one is the better frame?

If both HF and Palmar are a team it would be Palmar because HF can argue his way out better than Palmar as we saw HF almost argued his way to mislynching me over lynching him.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 21 2017 17:44 GMT
#2595
But honestly I highly doubt that TW would put his both of his scummates in his prefer lynches unless he want us to be confused.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
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