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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 08:20 GMT
#141
On May 10 2017 17:18 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 14:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar plz for once lets work together and murder some mafia, shall we?

Besides LS and you i kinda think Damdred and fuba can be town too so far.

I don't work with scum

Savage.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 10 2017 08:32 GMT
#142
On May 10 2017 17:09 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 15:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No but seriously Grackaroni. I can't follow the logic of your post earlier. Why do you single out a retarded vote on me and some random other questions? What are you trying to achieve like that? Basically, what are you trying to do, as i can't find a single reason why you would be acting like that as town atm...

If you think my reads are bad, fine. I don't expect people to necessarily agree with my read on fuba (or Damdred), and i don't care. I just lay out what i think. You on the other hand seem like you are for some reason like.. idk.. threatening me (?) to make a read, or a different read. Why is that? If you're just trolling, then stop.

Tumblewood can be town too though. Mainly because i am pretty sure he would have questioned my Damdred read aswell in case he was scum
.

So how does this work exactly?

Are you saying that Scum Tumblewood would include Damdred so that people won't be able to solve the game through associations?

I don't get how I was scummy for dropping bullets on the floor and HF is scum for voting you but you don't mind Tumblewood questioning your read and then disappearing while we take fire for it.

I am saying if Tumblewood is mafia he would probably include Damdred there too to keep the options open since there is no reason for me to assume he knows/assumes he knows where i am coming from with my Damdred read. Sure he could be mafia with Damdred and that's the reason why he excludes him but i don't think Damdred is mafia. Generally - as mafia - i would expect him to question everything he "doesn't get" since not only he can look active but it's a genuine thing to do (if he was town -- this is from mafia perspective).

That's different from what you or Holyflare did. First of all Tumblewood didn't even indicate i am mafia (which is different from what HF did). He just found something worth questioning and questioned it. Second, you just seconded Tumblewood on my fuba read, you weren't the one making the original question. That and the fact what i talked about your follow up already makes you different from Tumble.

But i don't really care about that rn since you're probably town as Holyflare is probably mafia. None of the things he says make me or anyone mafia. His read is very shallow and there is zero thought in it. Looks more like his read on Hapa in the Liquidmania qualifier #2.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 10 2017 08:34 GMT
#143
On May 10 2017 16:05 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 16:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 10 2017 15:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't mean it as an attack. I just found it interesting that you called all of the people town but us and we had kind of a similar response to it.

So what's interesting in that? What are your conclusions?

My conclusion is that Rayn is in a rage induced tunnel.

If you think he is town why are you pestering him?
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 10 2017 08:34 GMT
#144
On May 10 2017 17:18 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 14:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar plz for once lets work together and murder some mafia, shall we?

Besides LS and you i kinda think Damdred and fuba can be town too so far.

I don't work with scum

I am sad.

Well then do what the fuck ever you want to and be a dumbass. I am just gonna find the mafia and then you can be bad. Holyflare is the first one.
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 08:36 GMT
#145
Honestly this is seeming pretty fishy to me.
On May 10 2017 16:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 16:05 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 10 2017 16:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 10 2017 15:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't mean it as an attack. I just found it interesting that you called all of the people town but us and we had kind of a similar response to it.

So what's interesting in that? What are your conclusions?

My conclusion is that Rayn is in a rage induced tunnel.

How about you play the game instead of this shit?
Did you just say you made a series of posts that indicate -- no, literally say, you found the first thing in the game that interests you yet you cannot make a single conclusion out of it?

On May 10 2017 16:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay that makes sense. I am really not trying to twist anything you say into anything else. I just saw you making a post, thought about what it indicates (correctly ) and it didn't make any sense to me. Since really, i know my own alignment and even if fuba is mafia there is no reason anyone of you three would most likely respond differently, therefore your conclusion didn't make much sense to me -- and looked more to be like what i said.

Obviously Tumblewood and you can question me for a read you don't understand or don't get. At first you just seemed to be doing it "wrong", you know what i mean? I don't think it makes you mafia, i just want you to be clear in what you say and not cryptic because i don't wanna guess what you say. I want people to lay out stuff clear so i can just focus on making conclusions on that said stuff.

rn I am most interested in on how Holyflare thinks anything of what i have said possibly makes me mafia.

Before you were attacking me for making no conclusion and now you are changing your mind because the whole time you thought there shouldn't have been any conclusion?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 08:40 GMT
#146
On May 10 2017 17:34 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 16:05 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 10 2017 16:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 10 2017 15:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't mean it as an attack. I just found it interesting that you called all of the people town but us and we had kind of a similar response to it.

So what's interesting in that? What are your conclusions?

My conclusion is that Rayn is in a rage induced tunnel.

If you think he is town why are you pestering him?

How did I pester him!? I was a perfect gentleman.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 10 2017 08:41 GMT
#147
On May 10 2017 17:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Honestly this is seeming pretty fishy to me.
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 16:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 10 2017 16:05 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 10 2017 16:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 10 2017 15:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't mean it as an attack. I just found it interesting that you called all of the people town but us and we had kind of a similar response to it.

So what's interesting in that? What are your conclusions?

My conclusion is that Rayn is in a rage induced tunnel.

How about you play the game instead of this shit?
Did you just say you made a series of posts that indicate -- no, literally say, you found the first thing in the game that interests you yet you cannot make a single conclusion out of it?

Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 16:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay that makes sense. I am really not trying to twist anything you say into anything else. I just saw you making a post, thought about what it indicates (correctly ) and it didn't make any sense to me. Since really, i know my own alignment and even if fuba is mafia there is no reason anyone of you three would most likely respond differently, therefore your conclusion didn't make much sense to me -- and looked more to be like what i said.

Obviously Tumblewood and you can question me for a read you don't understand or don't get. At first you just seemed to be doing it "wrong", you know what i mean? I don't think it makes you mafia, i just want you to be clear in what you say and not cryptic because i don't wanna guess what you say. I want people to lay out stuff clear so i can just focus on making conclusions on that said stuff.

rn I am most interested in on how Holyflare thinks anything of what i have said possibly makes me mafia.

Before you were attacking me for making no conclusion and now you are changing your mind because the whole time you thought there shouldn't have been any conclusion?

No. I was attacking you because you didn't seem to have a conclusion. You should have had one (since you made a post that indicated so in the first place). When you told what your conclusion is, it didn't make any sense. I have never said you shouldn't have any conclusion because i figured you must have one -- otherwise the first post made no sense at all. People can obviously make dumb/wrong conclusions, that doesn't make anyone mafia. I just wanted to know where you were coming from and the more we discussed it the clearer it became to me where you are coming from and that it makes probably more sense from town perspective.
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 08:41 GMT
#148
Sir Grackaroni, esquire.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 10 2017 08:43 GMT
#149
If i thought it makes you mafia that you are indicating you have a conclusion and should have none, i would have voted for you Grackaroni, as any alignment...
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 08:45 GMT
#150
On May 10 2017 17:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 17:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Honestly this is seeming pretty fishy to me.
On May 10 2017 16:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 10 2017 16:05 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 10 2017 16:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 10 2017 15:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't mean it as an attack. I just found it interesting that you called all of the people town but us and we had kind of a similar response to it.

So what's interesting in that? What are your conclusions?

My conclusion is that Rayn is in a rage induced tunnel.

How about you play the game instead of this shit?
Did you just say you made a series of posts that indicate -- no, literally say, you found the first thing in the game that interests you yet you cannot make a single conclusion out of it?

On May 10 2017 16:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay that makes sense. I am really not trying to twist anything you say into anything else. I just saw you making a post, thought about what it indicates (correctly ) and it didn't make any sense to me. Since really, i know my own alignment and even if fuba is mafia there is no reason anyone of you three would most likely respond differently, therefore your conclusion didn't make much sense to me -- and looked more to be like what i said.

Obviously Tumblewood and you can question me for a read you don't understand or don't get. At first you just seemed to be doing it "wrong", you know what i mean? I don't think it makes you mafia, i just want you to be clear in what you say and not cryptic because i don't wanna guess what you say. I want people to lay out stuff clear so i can just focus on making conclusions on that said stuff.

rn I am most interested in on how Holyflare thinks anything of what i have said possibly makes me mafia.

Before you were attacking me for making no conclusion and now you are changing your mind because the whole time you thought there shouldn't have been any conclusion?

No. I was attacking you because you didn't seem to have a conclusion. You should have had one (since you made a post that indicated so in the first place). When you told what your conclusion is, it didn't make any sense. I have never said you shouldn't have any conclusion because i figured you must have one -- otherwise the first post made no sense at all. People can obviously make dumb/wrong conclusions, that doesn't make anyone mafia. I just wanted to know where you were coming from and the more we discussed it the clearer it became to me where you are coming from and that it makes probably more sense from town perspective.

I think that's fair.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 10 2017 08:47 GMT
#151
Basically i misinterpreted the "strength" of your conclusion (if you can say so) and made an assumption of how you would follow up on it, dug up more onto it since i didn't see the assumed follow up, and figured the starting point of my assumption is probably incorrect -- backed up by what you said.

But more importantly Holyflare is mafia.
##vote Holyflare
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 10 2017 08:49 GMT
#152
2 pages into game and reads too shallow, oh the humanity.

Rayn, are your reads that I'm voting you for intricate and detailed?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 10 2017 08:50 GMT
#153
Or do they have 0 context, no elaboration and have caused you to get called out by three people?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 10 2017 08:51 GMT
#154
More importantly I'm sad you rolled mafia.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 08:53 GMT
#155
On May 07 2017 01:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2017 15:29 fuba wrote:
Now I'm really afraid of rolling scum :S

You shouldn't, me Palmar and Holyflare will fuck up and kill each other and you'll just cruise to victory.

We seem to be right on track here atm.

I think we should all just chill out a little bit.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 10 2017 08:55 GMT
#156
You know if i have a townread or 10 that i can't explain it doesn't make me mafia.
You know me buddying Palmar or agreeing on a read (LS here) doesn't make me mafia.
What you're doing besides that is that you call me out for basically saying:
- I have never seen a banana but idk my gut tells me it's this color
You somehow group it being "the same thing" as someone saying:
- I have seen a banana and i know it's red!
You're literally trying to say i am a hypocrite for doing the second thing (see this thing with Grackaroni and demanding answers) when i am in fact doing the first thing. I never even indicated i could possibly give a reasonable answer for why i think fuba is town. I just think he is town. That's totally different from what Grackaroni did yet you're calling me a hypocrite for doing the same thing. Not only what i did is completely different, but even if it wasn't, that doesn't make me mafia.

Your read is literally full of shit and you're scum.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 10 2017 08:57 GMT
#157
I have no actual idea what you're saying. I see bad unexplained reads and I vote to kill mafia. Simple game, simple strats. I don't care if your banana is blue or pink.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 10 2017 08:59 GMT
#158
Gotta sleep a little and then go to work.


Palmar
LightningStrike
Tumblewood
Grackaroni
Damdred
fuba

Vivax
Prison Break
Skynx
darthfoley
sicklucker
Holyflare

cya later
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 10 2017 09:02 GMT
#159
Simple facts:

Town rayn finds mafia.
Town rayn determines alignment of good players.
Town rayn super paranoid questions everything and misreads all posts.

Mafia rayn not paranoid.
Mafia rayn town reads half the game on 0 posts.
Mafia rayn's interest to buddy people.
Mafia rayn's interest to shit fight to the extreme.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 10 2017 09:03 GMT
#160
You made a list of people to town read, couldn't come up with legit reasons and then got called out. Then you omgus 100 hours later when palmar calls you out and you've been rekt.
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