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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 11 2017 13:28 GMT
#487
You don't plan shenannies, they just happen. I have a few people I'd like to lynch/wouldn't care about flipping though so I'll see how it goes.

Don't actually know when deadline is.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 11 2017 13:31 GMT
#492
On May 11 2017 22:28 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 22:22 Holyflare wrote:
On May 11 2017 21:19 Holyflare wrote:
Well grack definitely can be. I just haven't really looked into anything. Everything he does is weird though. He says df/vivax definitely contains mafia, spends no real time talking about them and votes you instead.

He was super submissive to rayn.

He spent all that time basically trying to outline to me that your and df's points were different and he had no conclusion on me, you or df other than "people's conclusions can be different" and was just basically arguing for the sake of it.

His interactions with me are all defensive.

Underwhelming, definitely, scummy motivation, maybe? You've definitely got under his skin at least.


Oh Palmar shot off three posts in a row that seemed really bad to me, like he wasn't actually evaluating anything.

The point I was making was that you were citing both Palmar and DF's points to scum read me when they were completely contradictory, which it seemed like you recognized when you said that you didn't actually agree with Palmar's argument. Trying to use both just because they share the same conclusion is just scummy imo.

Also I don't see how I am underwhelming, you stole what Rayn/I said to form a fuba town read and that was one of your only two reads. The other one is one that pretty much everyone else said.


I have no qualms with being called underwhelming though lol.

And this post just highlights what I'm confused about you. You're still stating it's scummy yet everyone you have wanted to lynch (vivax/df/palmar/damdred) are not me. Your posts don't match your other posts. Where is the conclusion and vote? Why have you stopped 24/7 scum reading me like normal?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 11 2017 13:33 GMT
#494
On May 11 2017 22:29 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 22:28 Holyflare wrote:
You don't plan shenannies, they just happen. I have a few people I'd like to lynch/wouldn't care about flipping though so I'll see how it goes.

Don't actually know when deadline is.


If you try to start shenannies you're mafia, if you don't, you're town. Good deal?


I do what I want. You're all a part of my megalopolis.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 11 2017 13:36 GMT
#499
On May 11 2017 22:28 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 22:26 Holyflare wrote:
I think you've tried to force a meta read on me that doesn't make sense in this game and that could very likely come from mafia. None of the posts you quoted highlight anything near what I was like in that last game and you've not said anything else.

You tried to drag me into a fight between grac vs rayn vs holyflare that didn't exist and when I asked you to prove it you admitted that the fight didn't even exist with me in it. You're trying to copy your filter from last game with false fights and bad meta and it stinks LS.

Ugh yes you did come into the fight although maybe more in directly as you were targeting rayn and you were nitpicky like some of the posts I did show yet you were denying this? What are you smoking shrooms again?


I stated a scum read and elaborated on it yeh

Do something else ls this is boring and I'm disappointed
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 11 2017 13:38 GMT
#502
Some day I want the entire scum team to be team afk lurk and watch them win with the excuse that nobody wanted to lynch afk players. I can dream.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 11 2017 13:40 GMT
#505
On May 11 2017 22:35 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 22:31 Holyflare wrote:
On May 11 2017 22:28 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 11 2017 22:22 Holyflare wrote:
On May 11 2017 21:19 Holyflare wrote:
Well grack definitely can be. I just haven't really looked into anything. Everything he does is weird though. He says df/vivax definitely contains mafia, spends no real time talking about them and votes you instead.

He was super submissive to rayn.

He spent all that time basically trying to outline to me that your and df's points were different and he had no conclusion on me, you or df other than "people's conclusions can be different" and was just basically arguing for the sake of it.

His interactions with me are all defensive.

Underwhelming, definitely, scummy motivation, maybe? You've definitely got under his skin at least.


Oh Palmar shot off three posts in a row that seemed really bad to me, like he wasn't actually evaluating anything.

The point I was making was that you were citing both Palmar and DF's points to scum read me when they were completely contradictory, which it seemed like you recognized when you said that you didn't actually agree with Palmar's argument. Trying to use both just because they share the same conclusion is just scummy imo.

Also I don't see how I am underwhelming, you stole what Rayn/I said to form a fuba town read and that was one of your only two reads. The other one is one that pretty much everyone else said.


I have no qualms with being called underwhelming though lol.

And this post just highlights what I'm confused about you. You're still stating it's scummy yet everyone you have wanted to lynch (vivax/df/palmar/damdred) are not me. Your posts don't match your other posts. Where is the conclusion and vote? Why have you stopped 24/7 scum reading me like normal?

You might be scum.

I feel like you're one of the only one's that's actually putting time in thread to try to read me though, so even if you may be scum you're still coming off as townier than some other people.


Wut. So basically you are just hedging?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 11 2017 14:33 GMT
#513
On May 11 2017 23:25 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 22:28 Holyflare wrote:
You don't plan shenannies, they just happen. I have a few people I'd like to lynch/wouldn't care about flipping though so I'll see how it goes.

Don't actually know when deadline is.


Earlier you said you would only consider TW/rayn and no one else. What's changed to open your mind to others, and who are they?


The rest of the game my friend.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 11 2017 14:35 GMT
#514
On May 11 2017 18:46 Holyflare wrote:
Df keeps getting mentioned but nobody says any reasons why. I don't like it.

Damdred why did you say you didn't like df but then went oit of your way to post a post you did like? Which is basically 20% of his filter anyway. It seems weird to me like you're trying to prove you have similar reads to me.


Damdred relevance ^
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 11 2017 16:32 GMT
#522
I'll get on it just coming home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 11 2017 16:37 GMT
#523
How long do i have?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 11 2017 17:39 GMT
#527
On May 11 2017 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare you have to understand that inconsistencies do not make people mafia. In fact it is more likely that a townie is inconsistent than that mafia is (this is obviously a case specific thing but especially on D1 and not much to work with it's way more likely that mafia tries to keep their story straight).

##unvote
##vote darthfoley


I am not sure if i can explain this more properly than i have before but i will try.
The thing is Grackaroni answered me regarding my concerns about him. Could he do that as mafia? Would he do that as mafia? Sure he could, most likely would. That doesn't however make him mafia. In fact it is more likely it makes him town because his train of thought follows what he says in his posts there.

Now i wouldn't probably even think df is scum if he didn't make the case in a way that he did. Being wrong or making a wrong conclusion of the above is not necessarily scummy. The point here is what darthfoley does is that he doesn't even evaluate the scumminess of the original act. He just contrasts it to meta and expects the "meta" to strenthen his argument even though he doesn't even have an argument in the first place. In a same way i could say for example the following:
- "Holyflare is scum because he asked why Grack is voting for Palmar and he never asks that as town."

Now who the fuck cares if Holyflare has done it as town before or not when the starting point of the argument is completely ridiculous (aka a thing that is not scummy the slightest)??? What darthfoley did there is he took some random argument, has no conclusion about the argument itself and then just painted it scummy "because Grackaroni doesn't do that as town". Furthermore, with a 100% certainty darthfoley has never ever seen me play with Grackaroni before so there should be no expectations on how Grackaroni should react to something i post as either alignment (there is where even the whole meta bullshit falls apart).

So there is that, now i am off to work.


I don't agree with this premise by the way. I don't think df's post is even a case it's just an off the cuff remark about how grack isn't doing something he is renowned for and that's suspicious. Nothing more, nothing less.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 11 2017 17:53 GMT
#528
I was completely wrong about Tumblewood. Why has nobody called me out for that?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 11 2017 20:48 GMT
#653
fucking fuck i'm fucked
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 11 2017 20:49 GMT
#655
what's happened?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 11 2017 20:49 GMT
#659
on who
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 11 2017 20:50 GMT
#662
the fuck still df?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 11 2017 20:51 GMT
#664
did rayn start this wagon?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 11 2017 20:53 GMT
#676
I disliked DF so far, Vivax has been awkward in some of his postings so far but I am not sure that it makes him scum currently.



On May 11 2017 06:43 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 22:20 darthfoley wrote:
On May 10 2017 18:23 Grackaroni wrote:
Lol ask Vivax about the Ika burden of proof.

This has been one of my most tame shit fights.


Makes me more suspicious of you. Feel like town!Grack goes hamboni jabroni on Rayn for this shit fight. I've seen you in other games get into shit fights so deep D1 that you get mislynched as doc, but you're always spicy and have a "fuck you" attitude about the fight. You don't feel as "fuck you" here. Seems like you're setting yourself up to have wiggle room with Rayn later or something.

I like Palmar's posts about you. I think Palmar is real town.

Also hi


I do like this post from DF, HF.

He was also the first one to call out my post as summy I believe (?). But I am a little biased towards him currently eh...

On May 12 2017 05:10 Damdred wrote:
##vote darthfoley


dislike df
buddy me and say he likes df post
vote df

did he vote df after rayn posted?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 11 2017 20:54 GMT
#677
fuck it yolo

##vote damdred

sorry buddy
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 11 2017 20:57 GMT
#680
On May 12 2017 05:51 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 05:50 Holyflare wrote:
the fuck still df?

Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 05:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay this post broken into parts:
On May 11 2017 23:36 darthfoley wrote:
I think HF is probably town. Or he's buddying the shit out of me. He's probably good enough to do either, but I appreciate that he saw the validity in my post on grack. I'm still waiting on a case from him why TW is the lynch.

What a bad read on HF. Why would holyflare buddy him? Why is he waiting for Holyflare to make a case? Why doesn't he do shit himself?

Idk what to think about rayn. On one hand he feels equally "shutting up the thread and blowing up when someone insinuates he's not the best mafia player of all time," as he does when he's town. On the other, he's doing a terrible push on me that is based off of one post that actually DOES have merit and trying to discredit me for it.

No, it literally does not have merit since df just fucking backed off from his scumread on Grackaroni, that literally means his post DOES NOT have merit. Regardless of his affiliation i was doing the RIGHT thing, or should have been doing, in his mind. Yet he comes up with this bullshit,
Like there are plenty of other question marks in my mind (LS, Damdred, Skynx, fuba to name the major ones) yet he doesn't seem to care about them at all and only goes after me

What is this even?????? Why should i go after someone who is a questionmark in DF's mind?!?!!? Wtf? In addition to that i have given detailed reads on all of those people (except for Skynx for the detailed part). Nothing here makes sense at all, why is he even saying this shit?

which is smart if he's mafia because 1) he doesn't know I'll be active today so active rayn > inactive df and I get ML 2) I'm pretty good at not getting mislynched (only happened in the cell game) so killing me D1 is an added ML bonus.

First of all how the fuck do i know if df is going to be active or not? Why would i even care? Why would that even happen since he's not inactive? WHAT IS THIS EVEN TRYING TO SAY? I am trying to lynch him because he is inactive? Way to go bro, he never even touched my case with a stick, just played around it -> then conceded that i was right (grack - since he now townreads him) -> then calls my case shit and worng and whatever when it was HIM by HIS OWN WORDS who was wrong.
I'm starting to feel like HF v rayn could be TvS but I'm a pussy so I'm gonna try to find mafia elsewhere before I commit to that

You're not a pussy, you're scum.



I don't like any of this case other than the pointless afk thing and not responding which has a bit of merit.
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