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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 20:28 GMT
#617
On May 11 2017 23:29 darthfoley wrote:
I also find it ironic that rayn is using mostly a meta read on me while criticizing me for using a meta read on grack. For the record, I'm starting to feel better about Grack. Maybe he shouldn't be the lynch. Probably not actually.

My read on df has literally zero meta in it so he probably didn't even read my case or doesn't know what meta is.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 20:30 GMT
#621
On May 12 2017 03:47 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 02:39 Holyflare wrote:
On May 11 2017 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare you have to understand that inconsistencies do not make people mafia. In fact it is more likely that a townie is inconsistent than that mafia is (this is obviously a case specific thing but especially on D1 and not much to work with it's way more likely that mafia tries to keep their story straight).

##unvote
##vote darthfoley


I am not sure if i can explain this more properly than i have before but i will try.
The thing is Grackaroni answered me regarding my concerns about him. Could he do that as mafia? Would he do that as mafia? Sure he could, most likely would. That doesn't however make him mafia. In fact it is more likely it makes him town because his train of thought follows what he says in his posts there.

Now i wouldn't probably even think df is scum if he didn't make the case in a way that he did. Being wrong or making a wrong conclusion of the above is not necessarily scummy. The point here is what darthfoley does is that he doesn't even evaluate the scumminess of the original act. He just contrasts it to meta and expects the "meta" to strenthen his argument even though he doesn't even have an argument in the first place. In a same way i could say for example the following:
- "Holyflare is scum because he asked why Grack is voting for Palmar and he never asks that as town."

Now who the fuck cares if Holyflare has done it as town before or not when the starting point of the argument is completely ridiculous (aka a thing that is not scummy the slightest)??? What darthfoley did there is he took some random argument, has no conclusion about the argument itself and then just painted it scummy "because Grackaroni doesn't do that as town". Furthermore, with a 100% certainty darthfoley has never ever seen me play with Grackaroni before so there should be no expectations on how Grackaroni should react to something i post as either alignment (there is where even the whole meta bullshit falls apart).

So there is that, now i am off to work.


I don't agree with this premise by the way. I don't think df's post is even a case it's just an off the cuff remark about how grack isn't doing something he is renowned for and that's suspicious. Nothing more, nothing less.



Also this. Calling my one or two comments early D1 on grack a "case" is misrepresentation or blatant misunderstanding.

If that wasn't a case then he hasn't done anything up until voting for Skynx. Except for a couple of reads which might or might not mean anything as per his own fucking words. Makes perfect sense for mafia in the environment this game has been up until last couple of hours.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 20:32 GMT
#622
On May 12 2017 05:29 Skynx wrote:
I tried to make a Vivax case but it was bad, maybe he's not so mafia after all but his case on me is bad. Him and TW are pretty similar so far, I'm willing to let both go for the day.

That leaves DF, SL, fuba

Vivax is also mafia because he is here to make friends and ignore people and not find scum. Just look at how he left with "i may be back or may not". Not that comment but where he ended up on.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 20:34 GMT
#625
On May 12 2017 00:21 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 23:39 darthfoley wrote:
If anyone has questions for me, fire away. I'm an open book titled "If ya mislynch me, ya dun goofed." So ask my friends!


Can you take a look at skynx and tell me if I'm onto something cause my caselet on him is being ignored and I would like to know if it's cause he's really scum or my points are really bad from another perspective.

"can you please look at my case and tell if i am right or if i made a bad case? btw gtg prolly wont be back"

muchos scumhunting here
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 20:38 GMT
#631
On May 12 2017 05:34 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 05:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 12 2017 03:47 darthfoley wrote:
On May 12 2017 02:39 Holyflare wrote:
On May 11 2017 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare you have to understand that inconsistencies do not make people mafia. In fact it is more likely that a townie is inconsistent than that mafia is (this is obviously a case specific thing but especially on D1 and not much to work with it's way more likely that mafia tries to keep their story straight).

##unvote
##vote darthfoley


I am not sure if i can explain this more properly than i have before but i will try.
The thing is Grackaroni answered me regarding my concerns about him. Could he do that as mafia? Would he do that as mafia? Sure he could, most likely would. That doesn't however make him mafia. In fact it is more likely it makes him town because his train of thought follows what he says in his posts there.

Now i wouldn't probably even think df is scum if he didn't make the case in a way that he did. Being wrong or making a wrong conclusion of the above is not necessarily scummy. The point here is what darthfoley does is that he doesn't even evaluate the scumminess of the original act. He just contrasts it to meta and expects the "meta" to strenthen his argument even though he doesn't even have an argument in the first place. In a same way i could say for example the following:
- "Holyflare is scum because he asked why Grack is voting for Palmar and he never asks that as town."

Now who the fuck cares if Holyflare has done it as town before or not when the starting point of the argument is completely ridiculous (aka a thing that is not scummy the slightest)??? What darthfoley did there is he took some random argument, has no conclusion about the argument itself and then just painted it scummy "because Grackaroni doesn't do that as town". Furthermore, with a 100% certainty darthfoley has never ever seen me play with Grackaroni before so there should be no expectations on how Grackaroni should react to something i post as either alignment (there is where even the whole meta bullshit falls apart).

So there is that, now i am off to work.


I don't agree with this premise by the way. I don't think df's post is even a case it's just an off the cuff remark about how grack isn't doing something he is renowned for and that's suspicious. Nothing more, nothing less.



Also this. Calling my one or two comments early D1 on grack a "case" is misrepresentation or blatant misunderstanding.

If that wasn't a case then he hasn't done anything up until voting for Skynx. Except for a couple of reads which might or might not mean anything as per his own fucking words. Makes perfect sense for mafia in the environment this game has been up until last couple of hours.


I was AFK for the first half of D1. I've been more active today. Sorry for having a life. You're so toxic dude

What i meant was that you've backed off from everything you have done or "don't know what to make of it". Not that you haven't done anything. Can you please even try to understand what i wrote and not do this dumbass AtE shit that didn't work for you last game either?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 20:42 GMT
#635
On May 12 2017 05:41 Skynx wrote:
If df is getting lynched instead of fuba I will move to sl

why? because your "top scumread" is also voting for sl?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 20:45 GMT
#642
On May 12 2017 05:45 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 05:41 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really like the DF case tbh. I don't see anything scummy in there.


there literally isn't a case.

wrong.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 20:46 GMT
#646
On May 12 2017 05:46 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 12 2017 05:41 Skynx wrote:
If df is getting lynched instead of fuba I will move to sl

why? because your "top scumread" is also voting for sl?

they are not my scumreads. They are equally afk

so you want to kill an afk?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 20:48 GMT
#651
On May 12 2017 05:47 darthfoley wrote:
i'm being voted on by rayn, TW, and damdred.

WHY DOES ANYONE THINK THIS IS A TOWN INFLUENCED WAGON

because we are town
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 20:48 GMT
#654
I can consolidate on Vivax, noone else.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 20:49 GMT
#656
On May 12 2017 05:48 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 12 2017 05:47 darthfoley wrote:
i'm being voted on by rayn, TW, and damdred.

WHY DOES ANYONE THINK THIS IS A TOWN INFLUENCED WAGON

because we are town


why the fuck is damdred town

because he is voting for scum
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 20:52 GMT
#670
On May 12 2017 05:50 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 12 2017 05:48 darthfoley wrote:
On May 12 2017 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 12 2017 05:47 darthfoley wrote:
i'm being voted on by rayn, TW, and damdred.

WHY DOES ANYONE THINK THIS IS A TOWN INFLUENCED WAGON

because we are town


why the fuck is damdred town

because he is voting for scum


please lynch this asshole after i flip green. even if he's the cop, he is butt cheeks at reading me and should be punished for it regardless of alignment

and you're butt cheeks at playing this game if you're town.
sorry but now i had to be an ass back
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 20:53 GMT
#675
On May 12 2017 05:53 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 05:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 12 2017 05:50 darthfoley wrote:
On May 12 2017 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 12 2017 05:48 darthfoley wrote:
On May 12 2017 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 12 2017 05:47 darthfoley wrote:
i'm being voted on by rayn, TW, and damdred.

WHY DOES ANYONE THINK THIS IS A TOWN INFLUENCED WAGON

because we are town


why the fuck is damdred town

because he is voting for scum


please lynch this asshole after i flip green. even if he's the cop, he is butt cheeks at reading me and should be punished for it regardless of alignment

and you're butt cheeks at playing this game if you're town.
sorry but now i had to be an ass back


nah, because at least one of the people i'm pushing is mafia which is more than what I can say for you right now

shut your mouth asshole
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 20:58 GMT
#684
Lets kill Vivax quick so we have at least a chance to hit mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 20:59 GMT
#686
##unvote
##vote vivax
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 21:00 GMT
#688
oh god...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 21:02 GMT
#691
no chance of hitting mafia here
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 21:12 GMT
#697
Vivax is still not voting for darthfoley
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 21:21 GMT
#701
Well done, seems like i don't have to do anything since you're all so good at this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 21:22 GMT
#705
let me check something real quick
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