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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 20:30 GMT
#621
On May 12 2017 03:47 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 02:39 Holyflare wrote:
On May 11 2017 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare you have to understand that inconsistencies do not make people mafia. In fact it is more likely that a townie is inconsistent than that mafia is (this is obviously a case specific thing but especially on D1 and not much to work with it's way more likely that mafia tries to keep their story straight).

##unvote
##vote darthfoley


I am not sure if i can explain this more properly than i have before but i will try.
The thing is Grackaroni answered me regarding my concerns about him. Could he do that as mafia? Would he do that as mafia? Sure he could, most likely would. That doesn't however make him mafia. In fact it is more likely it makes him town because his train of thought follows what he says in his posts there.

Now i wouldn't probably even think df is scum if he didn't make the case in a way that he did. Being wrong or making a wrong conclusion of the above is not necessarily scummy. The point here is what darthfoley does is that he doesn't even evaluate the scumminess of the original act. He just contrasts it to meta and expects the "meta" to strenthen his argument even though he doesn't even have an argument in the first place. In a same way i could say for example the following:
- "Holyflare is scum because he asked why Grack is voting for Palmar and he never asks that as town."

Now who the fuck cares if Holyflare has done it as town before or not when the starting point of the argument is completely ridiculous (aka a thing that is not scummy the slightest)??? What darthfoley did there is he took some random argument, has no conclusion about the argument itself and then just painted it scummy "because Grackaroni doesn't do that as town". Furthermore, with a 100% certainty darthfoley has never ever seen me play with Grackaroni before so there should be no expectations on how Grackaroni should react to something i post as either alignment (there is where even the whole meta bullshit falls apart).

So there is that, now i am off to work.


I don't agree with this premise by the way. I don't think df's post is even a case it's just an off the cuff remark about how grack isn't doing something he is renowned for and that's suspicious. Nothing more, nothing less.



Also this. Calling my one or two comments early D1 on grack a "case" is misrepresentation or blatant misunderstanding.

If that wasn't a case then he hasn't done anything up until voting for Skynx. Except for a couple of reads which might or might not mean anything as per his own fucking words. Makes perfect sense for mafia in the environment this game has been up until last couple of hours.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 20:32 GMT
#622
On May 12 2017 05:29 Skynx wrote:
I tried to make a Vivax case but it was bad, maybe he's not so mafia after all but his case on me is bad. Him and TW are pretty similar so far, I'm willing to let both go for the day.

That leaves DF, SL, fuba

Vivax is also mafia because he is here to make friends and ignore people and not find scum. Just look at how he left with "i may be back or may not". Not that comment but where he ended up on.
table for two on a tv tray
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
May 11 2017 20:33 GMT
#623
Well if you lynch me please lynch rayn right after because he's either too stubborn for his own good or he's mafia.

You're incessant rage for no reason is rather annoying. You've been tunneling me all day and making anything I do for your narrative that I'm scum.

I have no idea why you're allergic to considering players whose filters are very bad and have scummy tendencies.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
May 11 2017 20:33 GMT
#624
Too many people piling on DF, and I'm not confident going there.

Does anyone want to lynch fuba, who needed to step up and did nothing?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 20:34 GMT
#625
On May 12 2017 00:21 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 23:39 darthfoley wrote:
If anyone has questions for me, fire away. I'm an open book titled "If ya mislynch me, ya dun goofed." So ask my friends!


Can you take a look at skynx and tell me if I'm onto something cause my caselet on him is being ignored and I would like to know if it's cause he's really scum or my points are really bad from another perspective.

"can you please look at my case and tell if i am right or if i made a bad case? btw gtg prolly wont be back"

muchos scumhunting here
table for two on a tv tray
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
May 11 2017 20:34 GMT
#626
On May 12 2017 05:33 Skynx wrote:
Too many people piling on DF, and I'm not confident going there with Damdred voting him.

Does anyone want to lynch fuba, who needed to step up and did nothing?

EBWOP
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
May 11 2017 20:34 GMT
#627
On May 12 2017 05:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 03:47 darthfoley wrote:
On May 12 2017 02:39 Holyflare wrote:
On May 11 2017 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare you have to understand that inconsistencies do not make people mafia. In fact it is more likely that a townie is inconsistent than that mafia is (this is obviously a case specific thing but especially on D1 and not much to work with it's way more likely that mafia tries to keep their story straight).

##unvote
##vote darthfoley


I am not sure if i can explain this more properly than i have before but i will try.
The thing is Grackaroni answered me regarding my concerns about him. Could he do that as mafia? Would he do that as mafia? Sure he could, most likely would. That doesn't however make him mafia. In fact it is more likely it makes him town because his train of thought follows what he says in his posts there.

Now i wouldn't probably even think df is scum if he didn't make the case in a way that he did. Being wrong or making a wrong conclusion of the above is not necessarily scummy. The point here is what darthfoley does is that he doesn't even evaluate the scumminess of the original act. He just contrasts it to meta and expects the "meta" to strenthen his argument even though he doesn't even have an argument in the first place. In a same way i could say for example the following:
- "Holyflare is scum because he asked why Grack is voting for Palmar and he never asks that as town."

Now who the fuck cares if Holyflare has done it as town before or not when the starting point of the argument is completely ridiculous (aka a thing that is not scummy the slightest)??? What darthfoley did there is he took some random argument, has no conclusion about the argument itself and then just painted it scummy "because Grackaroni doesn't do that as town". Furthermore, with a 100% certainty darthfoley has never ever seen me play with Grackaroni before so there should be no expectations on how Grackaroni should react to something i post as either alignment (there is where even the whole meta bullshit falls apart).

So there is that, now i am off to work.


I don't agree with this premise by the way. I don't think df's post is even a case it's just an off the cuff remark about how grack isn't doing something he is renowned for and that's suspicious. Nothing more, nothing less.



Also this. Calling my one or two comments early D1 on grack a "case" is misrepresentation or blatant misunderstanding.

If that wasn't a case then he hasn't done anything up until voting for Skynx. Except for a couple of reads which might or might not mean anything as per his own fucking words. Makes perfect sense for mafia in the environment this game has been up until last couple of hours.


I was AFK for the first half of D1. I've been more active today. Sorry for having a life. You're so toxic dude
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
May 11 2017 20:35 GMT
#628
I will lynch anyone that isn't me if it's between me and random person alignment
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
May 11 2017 20:37 GMT
#629
If I get lynched D1 for an uber shitty OMGUS case from Rayn, Damdred who's been both scummy and AFK, and X amount of other idiots, I will be very annoyed.

watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
May 11 2017 20:38 GMT
#630
vote fuba, do you really think I'm scum?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 20:38 GMT
#631
On May 12 2017 05:34 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 05:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 12 2017 03:47 darthfoley wrote:
On May 12 2017 02:39 Holyflare wrote:
On May 11 2017 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare you have to understand that inconsistencies do not make people mafia. In fact it is more likely that a townie is inconsistent than that mafia is (this is obviously a case specific thing but especially on D1 and not much to work with it's way more likely that mafia tries to keep their story straight).

##unvote
##vote darthfoley


I am not sure if i can explain this more properly than i have before but i will try.
The thing is Grackaroni answered me regarding my concerns about him. Could he do that as mafia? Would he do that as mafia? Sure he could, most likely would. That doesn't however make him mafia. In fact it is more likely it makes him town because his train of thought follows what he says in his posts there.

Now i wouldn't probably even think df is scum if he didn't make the case in a way that he did. Being wrong or making a wrong conclusion of the above is not necessarily scummy. The point here is what darthfoley does is that he doesn't even evaluate the scumminess of the original act. He just contrasts it to meta and expects the "meta" to strenthen his argument even though he doesn't even have an argument in the first place. In a same way i could say for example the following:
- "Holyflare is scum because he asked why Grack is voting for Palmar and he never asks that as town."

Now who the fuck cares if Holyflare has done it as town before or not when the starting point of the argument is completely ridiculous (aka a thing that is not scummy the slightest)??? What darthfoley did there is he took some random argument, has no conclusion about the argument itself and then just painted it scummy "because Grackaroni doesn't do that as town". Furthermore, with a 100% certainty darthfoley has never ever seen me play with Grackaroni before so there should be no expectations on how Grackaroni should react to something i post as either alignment (there is where even the whole meta bullshit falls apart).

So there is that, now i am off to work.


I don't agree with this premise by the way. I don't think df's post is even a case it's just an off the cuff remark about how grack isn't doing something he is renowned for and that's suspicious. Nothing more, nothing less.



Also this. Calling my one or two comments early D1 on grack a "case" is misrepresentation or blatant misunderstanding.

If that wasn't a case then he hasn't done anything up until voting for Skynx. Except for a couple of reads which might or might not mean anything as per his own fucking words. Makes perfect sense for mafia in the environment this game has been up until last couple of hours.


I was AFK for the first half of D1. I've been more active today. Sorry for having a life. You're so toxic dude

What i meant was that you've backed off from everything you have done or "don't know what to make of it". Not that you haven't done anything. Can you please even try to understand what i wrote and not do this dumbass AtE shit that didn't work for you last game either?
table for two on a tv tray
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
May 11 2017 20:40 GMT
#632
HF and LS can you also please put your vote somewhere useful?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 11 2017 20:41 GMT
#633
I don't really like the DF case tbh. I don't see anything scummy in there.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
May 11 2017 20:41 GMT
#634
If df is getting lynched instead of fuba I will move to sl
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 11 2017 20:42 GMT
#635
On May 12 2017 05:41 Skynx wrote:
If df is getting lynched instead of fuba I will move to sl

why? because your "top scumread" is also voting for sl?
table for two on a tv tray
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
May 11 2017 20:43 GMT
#636
On May 12 2017 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 05:34 darthfoley wrote:
On May 12 2017 05:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 12 2017 03:47 darthfoley wrote:
On May 12 2017 02:39 Holyflare wrote:
On May 11 2017 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare you have to understand that inconsistencies do not make people mafia. In fact it is more likely that a townie is inconsistent than that mafia is (this is obviously a case specific thing but especially on D1 and not much to work with it's way more likely that mafia tries to keep their story straight).

##unvote
##vote darthfoley


I am not sure if i can explain this more properly than i have before but i will try.
The thing is Grackaroni answered me regarding my concerns about him. Could he do that as mafia? Would he do that as mafia? Sure he could, most likely would. That doesn't however make him mafia. In fact it is more likely it makes him town because his train of thought follows what he says in his posts there.

Now i wouldn't probably even think df is scum if he didn't make the case in a way that he did. Being wrong or making a wrong conclusion of the above is not necessarily scummy. The point here is what darthfoley does is that he doesn't even evaluate the scumminess of the original act. He just contrasts it to meta and expects the "meta" to strenthen his argument even though he doesn't even have an argument in the first place. In a same way i could say for example the following:
- "Holyflare is scum because he asked why Grack is voting for Palmar and he never asks that as town."

Now who the fuck cares if Holyflare has done it as town before or not when the starting point of the argument is completely ridiculous (aka a thing that is not scummy the slightest)??? What darthfoley did there is he took some random argument, has no conclusion about the argument itself and then just painted it scummy "because Grackaroni doesn't do that as town". Furthermore, with a 100% certainty darthfoley has never ever seen me play with Grackaroni before so there should be no expectations on how Grackaroni should react to something i post as either alignment (there is where even the whole meta bullshit falls apart).

So there is that, now i am off to work.


I don't agree with this premise by the way. I don't think df's post is even a case it's just an off the cuff remark about how grack isn't doing something he is renowned for and that's suspicious. Nothing more, nothing less.



Also this. Calling my one or two comments early D1 on grack a "case" is misrepresentation or blatant misunderstanding.

If that wasn't a case then he hasn't done anything up until voting for Skynx. Except for a couple of reads which might or might not mean anything as per his own fucking words. Makes perfect sense for mafia in the environment this game has been up until last couple of hours.


I was AFK for the first half of D1. I've been more active today. Sorry for having a life. You're so toxic dude

What i meant was that you've backed off from everything you have done or "don't know what to make of it". Not that you haven't done anything. Can you please even try to understand what i wrote and not do this dumbass AtE shit that didn't work for you last game either?


Considering I lost my partner D1 and fooled you and the rest of the town into a f3, I would say my play worked last fame.

The problem with comparing it to my current game is that in this game I'm town!
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 11 2017 20:43 GMT
#637
I not liking the DF wagon because it formed way quick to be a scum getting lynched. I do not know who I should vote outside HF and DF.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 11 2017 20:44 GMT
#638
I guess it kind of looks like it's between Foley and me atm since I was the first to two.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
May 11 2017 20:45 GMT
#639
On May 12 2017 05:41 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really like the DF case tbh. I don't see anything scummy in there.


there literally isn't a case.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 11 2017 20:45 GMT
#640
On May 12 2017 05:45 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2017 05:41 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't really like the DF case tbh. I don't see anything scummy in there.


there literally isn't a case.

I was referring to the Rayn post.
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