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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2017 10:47 GMT
#2347
I think you probably lynch ls first tbh. The more I think about his play the worse it looks.

D1 calls me mafia, lynches his best friend damdred with me on the wagon.

N1 calls me mafia despite voting with him but agrees with me that rayn is mafia-y despite calling me mafia.

D2 makes a meta case that rayn is mafia because of rage but only has 1 meta link to XXX mafia and it looks nothing like this game. Then he just afks on that wagon despite there being other wagons and palmar voting rayn for modkill reasons. When asked who LS' scum reads other than rayn are he says he has none.

On May 15 2017 05:05 LightningStrike wrote:
this vote count looks nasty we need to consolidate onto people.


And doesn't consolidate.

Despite the fact he thinks rayn is the only mafia and he agrees with my case on rayn and he's voting rayn he still thinks I'm mafia but NOT with rayn, the guy he is voting for.

On May 15 2017 05:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 05:17 Vivax wrote:
On May 15 2017 04:48 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 15 2017 04:13 Holyflare wrote:
LS, who do you think are rayn's partners?

Idk honestly I just think he's mafia independent of anything.


I don't think I've ever seen anyone write this.

LS are you 100% sure that rayn is your only scumread?

Well I got HF as a scumlean but i don't think HF could be scum with rayn tbh.



Furthermore, LS has been inconsistent on his reads. He says that palmar is mafia repeatedly but then says he'll lynch both palmar and holyflare despite earlier saying that if rayn is town palmar is mafia.

He goes on to say that tw did not spew grack town because the case was shit but begins today saying grack is confirmed town because of spew.

On May 20 2017 04:16 LightningStrike wrote:
I think HF or Palmar are scum based on TW's list honestly so I willing to lynch one or the other and the fact Grack was spewed makes so my 3rd scum is between sicklucker and prison break. sicklucker hasn't have the same euthiaism as normally does as town after lynching a scum and was afk for the most part of the auto lynch of TW like he normally does when one of his scum buddies is getting lynched. PB I did like his content early I just more afraid that he could of just been trying to blend but his way of trying to lynch sicklucker over HF and Palmar might seem townie?

On May 19 2017 01:50 LightningStrike wrote:
I think this was the closest he got to a town case on Grack but it wasn't exactly a great town case which is why I don't remember him doing one:
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On May 14 2017 04:05 Tumblewood wrote:
dont lynch grack pls

of course first i have to establish that there isn't really such a thing as anti-incrimination. townreads will always be a more wishy-washy sort of read than scum reads which means no one is allowed to yell at you when you call someoine town , i think. the smarter thing to do was probably to make a refutation to the scum case but oh well, i am no weenie

so here are some examples of grack doing things that are townie things to do. like calling people out:
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On May 13 2017 05:42 Grackaroni wrote:
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On May 12 2017 18:11 Palmar wrote:
random voteswitching at the deadline didn't work?

I'm shocked I say, shocked.

Dude you didn't even show up.

You were like "Oh no we have only a 5% chance of success. Allow me to proceed to do absolutely nothing!"

boom rekt
On May 10 2017 17:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Honestly this is seeming pretty fishy to me.
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On May 10 2017 16:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 10 2017 16:05 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 10 2017 16:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 10 2017 15:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't mean it as an attack. I just found it interesting that you called all of the people town but us and we had kind of a similar response to it.

So what's interesting in that? What are your conclusions?

My conclusion is that Rayn is in a rage induced tunnel.

How about you play the game instead of this shit?
Did you just say you made a series of posts that indicate -- no, literally say, you found the first thing in the game that interests you yet you cannot make a single conclusion out of it?

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On May 10 2017 16:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay that makes sense. I am really not trying to twist anything you say into anything else. I just saw you making a post, thought about what it indicates (correctly ) and it didn't make any sense to me. Since really, i know my own alignment and even if fuba is mafia there is no reason anyone of you three would most likely respond differently, therefore your conclusion didn't make much sense to me -- and looked more to be like what i said.

Obviously Tumblewood and you can question me for a read you don't understand or don't get. At first you just seemed to be doing it "wrong", you know what i mean? I don't think it makes you mafia, i just want you to be clear in what you say and not cryptic because i don't wanna guess what you say. I want people to lay out stuff clear so i can just focus on making conclusions on that said stuff.

rn I am most interested in on how Holyflare thinks anything of what i have said possibly makes me mafia.

Before you were attacking me for making no conclusion and now you are changing your mind because the whole time you thought there shouldn't have been any conclusion?

this post (and also the one where he responds to the damdred WoT) also indicate that he is closely reading and actually analyzing the game. which is ofc a Townie Thing To Do


and having fun. but not like shapelog trolling, actually being funny. also kinda had a real purpose behind it
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On May 10 2017 15:24 Grackaroni wrote:
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On May 10 2017 15:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What exactly are the quality posts you three made?

They looked kinda like this:

Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 06:15 Holyflare wrote:
Secund.


Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 07:11 Grackaroni wrote:
Who scum?


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On May 10 2017 07:52 Tumblewood wrote:
I'm glad that's settled <3
scum imitating trolling always end up being cryptic and useless, and not actually good like this. that was a much better explanation than the one outside the spoiler
On May 10 2017 18:48 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't know who started this noted thing but it's super obnoxious.

On May 10 2017 18:51 Grackaroni wrote:
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On May 10 2017 18:50 Palmar wrote:
I think I'm going to vote you and see how it feels. Maybe it'll feel good, I don't know. So many things yet unanswered.

Noted.

admit it u are literally laughing ur ass off
but the way this is done conveys his genuine irritation with the noted thing too


part of the difficulty in writing this is i don't get how on earth he is scum anyway. it is just so obvious from his filter that this guy is town. but if you have a couple points against him i can tell you they're shit and we can make a little more progress towards Not Lynching An Obvious Townie On Day 2

his points aren't really great so the fact he went to try to defend grack could mean grack is a potental partner for TW but there might be other people who could be TW's partner.


LS has a problem of forgetting his own reads and then trying to blend by just copying other people's reads.

Lynch him after me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2017 10:50 GMT
#2348
I actually think he's more mafia than sl.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2017 10:51 GMT
#2349
Although sl saying he knows vivax was medic and then skynx dying should definitely set off alarm bells for all of you too.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2017 12:01 GMT
#2352
You're dumb if you think there's any chance i flip mafia tbh. I've just said what i feel at every point.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2017 13:11 GMT
#2356
I literally don't care. Just lynch ls after me, don't blindly lynch palmar.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2017 13:14 GMT
#2357
My play here is to alienate every person that could save me, make cases on people who I think are mafia and defend (not really he could still be mafia) palmar.

I don't know how to explain it other than what he said appealed to me because that's how I feel every game. There's no other explanation than that.

If I lynched palmar today and he flipped mafia then I'd basically be confirmed town because of all the bs that you've been "gathering" from Tumblewood's filter. There's no interest for me to do this at all other than me trying to solve the game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2017 13:17 GMT
#2358
If you can't see how me being confirmed doctor today and getting killed tonight was a good play then that's your problem. You're the one that ccd for no reason
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2017 13:20 GMT
#2359
You know me and palmar can't be mafia together and you've said it all game but suddenly everybody and their mother magics up a palmar hf scum team. Which is impossible.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2017 13:21 GMT
#2360
I have no qualms being lynched. Just acknowledge the LS case because that is almost conclusive evidence.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2017 13:38 GMT
#2362
Palmar continuing to vote me stinks too btw. I'm not forgetting that.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2017 13:46 GMT
#2363
Honestly could see a palmar/ls team. Or palmar/sl or ls/sl :D

Maybe not ls/sl after sl wanting to lynch him today though. My ls case is rather compelling.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2017 14:54 GMT
#2369
On May 20 2017 23:09 LightningStrike wrote:
You can lynch me if you want but I thinking HF's refusal to lynch Palmar despite the fact we gave him the opportunity to do it and him sort of defending palmar is enough of as reason to lynch HF and if HF is scum we can move on to to sicklucker.


How the hell can you think only one of us is mafia but the guy trying to solve the game is the one instead of the guy pandering to emotions? None of that makes the slightest bit of sense.

If there's only one mafia between us then why do I spend my time trying to defend him when I just let him die and get confirmed town?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2017 14:55 GMT
#2370
Also you cherry pick grack being confirmed town and then not confirmed town but now you say your poe contains pb when tw basically confirms him too in that world.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2017 14:58 GMT
#2372
No, this is prime example of you leaving your options open like you have done with me all game while sheeping me too. Kill LS after me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2017 14:58 GMT
#2373
You haven't really taken any proper stance on anything this game, as show with your rayn read and your read on me. Now you do it again.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2017 14:59 GMT
#2374
Outline your stance on palmar through each cycle.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2017 15:03 GMT
#2378
Why should palmar be my confirmed scum? I never trust anything that a mafia writes because they can write absolutely anything. I trust my intellect and my gut. Always.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2017 15:03 GMT
#2379
On May 21 2017 00:02 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2017 23:58 Holyflare wrote:
No, this is prime example of you leaving your options open like you have done with me all game while sheeping me too. Kill LS after me.

Had you looked where I said before that post that I thought pb was townie earlier?


Yet you still keep him as a lynch option.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2017 15:06 GMT
#2385
Lynching palmar is a fallacy. You're basing this entire game off tw filter because nobody has a legitimate clue how to play mafia based on content. Only vivax has mentioned content related to palmar and it's not so bad.

The fact I'm a unanimous wagon with nobody defending me whereas palmar had at least 2 people defending him (myself and sl) should be evidence enough that I'm not mafia.

Where has palmar gone now I have the votes on me? Absolutely anywhere but here. Yet, you're encouraging more and more falsehoods my way to get me to be the majority wagon more.

That's bad lightningstrike and you know it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 20 2017 15:07 GMT
#2386
On May 21 2017 00:04 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2017 23:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I don't think Palmar and HF are together as a team so in my world it would leave you and pb if HF flips scum.


im never bussing hf today if im his partner lol. He was never the lynch untill I said so


You said this about you and palmar too. Don't pick and choose when it fits you.
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