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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 21:54 GMT
#321
Do you like what Palmar has contributed so far?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 10 2017 21:57 GMT
#322
My point of view is that rayn didn't like what you said and you had a massive boring snoozefest that I didn't read where you explained your post multiple times and rayn no doubt used dumb analogies to try and get his point across. You just repeatedly explained yourself and had no bite back and didn't even bother getting into my points on rayn. You were having an argument with rayn for the sake of having an argument rather than figuring it out with other people even though they were present.

Then rayn stopped pushing you and you didn't care and you did nothing more and qq left when palmar insulted you.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 21:58 GMT
#323
On May 11 2017 06:57 Holyflare wrote:
My point of view is that rayn didn't like what you said and you had a massive boring snoozefest that I didn't read where you explained your post multiple times and rayn no doubt used dumb analogies to try and get his point across. You just repeatedly explained yourself and had no bite back and didn't even bother getting into my points on rayn. You were having an argument with rayn for the sake of having an argument rather than figuring it out with other people even though they were present.

Then rayn stopped pushing you and you didn't care and you did nothing more and qq left when palmar insulted you.

I think the point here is that you have the red banana and everybody knows it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 10 2017 21:58 GMT
#324
On May 11 2017 06:54 Grackaroni wrote:
Do you like what Palmar has contributed so far?


Palmar is the same as vivax but with more sense and more fear. But I liked his posts, they made sense. I thought his tunnel post was good even if I don't agree with it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 10 2017 21:59 GMT
#325
On May 11 2017 06:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 06:57 Holyflare wrote:
My point of view is that rayn didn't like what you said and you had a massive boring snoozefest that I didn't read where you explained your post multiple times and rayn no doubt used dumb analogies to try and get his point across. You just repeatedly explained yourself and had no bite back and didn't even bother getting into my points on rayn. You were having an argument with rayn for the sake of having an argument rather than figuring it out with other people even though they were present.

Then rayn stopped pushing you and you didn't care and you did nothing more and qq left when palmar insulted you.

I think the point here is that you have the red banana and everybody knows it.


I have proof it's not a normal coloured banana at least.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 22:00 GMT
#326
Palmar and DF have been making opposite points.

Palmar says I was being too prickly to Rayn

DF says I wasn't being prickly enough with Rayn

You like both of their contributions because they both dislike me?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 22:01 GMT
#327
lol I g2g.

I'll be back to finish this later.

But I totes didn't have no follow up and leave the thread.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 10 2017 22:02 GMT
#328
On May 11 2017 07:00 Grackaroni wrote:
Palmar and DF have been making opposite points.

Palmar says I was being too prickly to Rayn

DF says I wasn't being prickly enough with Rayn

You like both of their contributions because they both dislike me?


Actually i'm curious what do you make of Palmar and DF having the exact opposite conclusions at this point about that interaction.

Do you think there is some sort of connection in review? Or?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 22:03 GMT
#329
On May 11 2017 07:02 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 07:00 Grackaroni wrote:
Palmar and DF have been making opposite points.

Palmar says I was being too prickly to Rayn

DF says I wasn't being prickly enough with Rayn

You like both of their contributions because they both dislike me?


Actually i'm curious what do you make of Palmar and DF having the exact opposite conclusions at this point about that interaction.

Do you think there is some sort of connection in review? Or?

No I think it's just been the most polarizing event in thread and people make different conclusions. I don't really think you can agree with both points, however.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 10 2017 22:04 GMT
#330
That's not true. Palmar said you're prodding rayn (pointless fight with pointless questions) when what you wrote suggests you town read rayn.

DF says you have no backbone and aren't actually fighting, which is true because you were pointlessly submissive and not actually determining his alignment.

Both independently good points.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 10 2017 22:06 GMT
#331
On May 11 2017 07:03 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 07:02 Damdred wrote:
On May 11 2017 07:00 Grackaroni wrote:
Palmar and DF have been making opposite points.

Palmar says I was being too prickly to Rayn

DF says I wasn't being prickly enough with Rayn

You like both of their contributions because they both dislike me?


Actually i'm curious what do you make of Palmar and DF having the exact opposite conclusions at this point about that interaction.

Do you think there is some sort of connection in review? Or?

No I think it's just been the most polarizing event in thread and people make different conclusions. I don't really think you can agree with both points, however.


Well i don't think you necessarily have to agree with both points to like both contributions or even just general posting style/tone etc.

Usually such contrasting opinions though would elicit a more forceful response out of the person they are directed towards though. hrmm
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 10 2017 22:06 GMT
#332
On May 11 2017 06:58 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 06:54 Grackaroni wrote:
Do you like what Palmar has contributed so far?


Palmar is the same as vivax but with more sense and more fear. But I liked his posts, they made sense. I thought his tunnel post was good even if I don't agree with it.


There's also this.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 22:09 GMT
#333
On May 11 2017 07:04 Holyflare wrote:
That's not true. Palmar said you're prodding rayn (pointless fight with pointless questions) when what you wrote suggests you town read rayn.

DF says you have no backbone and aren't actually fighting, which is true because you were pointlessly submissive and not actually determining his alignment.

Both independently good points.

Opposites.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 10 2017 22:10 GMT
#334
Anyway. Kill Vivax.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21957 Posts
May 10 2017 22:16 GMT
#335
On May 11 2017 06:34 Damdred wrote:
I powered through the thread while I was up.

To start off questions

@PrisonBreak (I believe), my initial assessment of LS scum etc was a joke. My follow up post of Rayns towniness was not a joke, it came from sort of bad reasoning as he can fake it potentially as scum. But I really liked that his first post was trying to discern who you were so that (presumably) he could better read you and come to a better conclusion. I would generally see thi scome from more town than scum as scum would not want that information really to come to life. But as I said it is partially a bad reason at that point.

As to people who said Damdred can do this as scum, YES! I can, I have and I will do it as both alignments. I've always tried to shape my game where I can do whatever I want from solving the game (or trying to), giving up teammates etc as either alignment. Though I know I still have some ticks as mafia I have a hard time getting rid of. But kind of meh about DF (I believe it was) who only looked at me negatively because of it.

As for my reads here we are:

These are the people i'm ok reading town currently

LS
Rayn
Palmar
Prison Break
Skynx

Maybe town:
Grack
HF

I would normally want to make a call about tumble, and my initial reaction to some of his off the collar commentary I think would come from his town game rather than his scum game. But I am horrid at looking at him so i'm just kind of ignoring him currently.

I disliked DF so far, Vivax has been awkward in some of his postings so far but I am not sure that it makes him scum currently.

Fuba is someone also that I think might be worth a look into later, initial reaction was he might be town just as a gut feeling. His reasoning for following PB I felt was a bit lakluster and was something i've seen mafia do to shift the blame to the person they sheep instead of taking personal responbility for it. Also him refusing to post reads to push the game forward bothered me, or rather him thinking they wouldn't push the game forward. I still sort of see him as a big bag of blah null for now.

Currently I just kind of want to lynch DF for some below average postings for him and him picking on me :'(


Yup you're town.
And I agree about df.

If I scumread people based on their entrance it'd be TW for his first post that sounded as if it had been a tragedy (or well, scummy thing) if LS called fuba scum for being second. Even if he didn't mention that it was a joke, every townie would have thought that it was a joke. TW wouldn't have, that's how I read it.

And df cause I don't see the wiggle room thingy and it just looks like something to throw on top when really it all came down to gracks attitude being pretty submissive, and looking like he was avoiding conflict, Palmar mentioned him not being honest with his attitude on rayn (but that's not the point here so etc.).

The point with df is rather that his first post combined with the followup seems like something many thought at the time about grack and I'll need the wiggle room thingy explainedfrom df cause he might have meant what Palmar said, but I don't think that Palmar was talking about wiggle room and df just kind of lazily called it that.

Then throws a read on Palmar on top cuz why not, he's agreeing with him and proceeds to talk about random looking stuff instead of grack who he seemed to have a stronger read on.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 10 2017 22:20 GMT
#336
On May 11 2017 04:22 fuba wrote:
Prison Break's stuff on sicklucker seems like the best "case" so far. Gonna vote him.


its not a bad "case" for players who have never played with me but theres a reason no one whos played with me before voted me.

fyi my vote on you was completely rng for reactions
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 10 2017 22:24 GMT
#337
On May 11 2017 07:09 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 07:04 Holyflare wrote:
That's not true. Palmar said you're prodding rayn (pointless fight with pointless questions) when what you wrote suggests you town read rayn.

DF says you have no backbone and aren't actually fighting, which is true because you were pointlessly submissive and not actually determining his alignment.

Both independently good points.

Opposites.


And yet they're still both good points
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21957 Posts
May 10 2017 22:52 GMT
#338
SL are you going to put away your laziness in the next 24 h?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 10 2017 23:32 GMT
#339
You guys are boring. Lynch tw or rayn plz.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
May 10 2017 23:34 GMT
#340
well looks like I was wrong on Hf. on the bright side I feel like I sparked discussion of something
good times for all
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