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On April 06 2017 11:26 sicklucker wrote: like 10 points garantees me finals shame goin straight for mvp baby | ||
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On April 06 2017 11:28 Shapelog wrote: excuse meTalking to a mafia qt does not take that much work Tumbledore. | ||
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On April 06 2017 11:56 darthfoley wrote: Salutations friends! May the odds be ever in our favor because we have such wonderful mods! it is ok to abandon this joke, no one will think less of you for it no. i prefer games where no one posts anything | ||
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On April 06 2017 13:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let me rephrase my question: Why do you think i would ever answer "no" to that regardless of my affiliation? because the question has little alignment relevance and he answered why a couple posts later | ||
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On April 06 2017 13:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: You cannot possibly know how much alignment relevance the question has. Where did sicklucker say why he is more likely to get points as mafia than as town? he said he wanted 10 points to qualify and that he thought he had better chances of that as scum. but then realized townies would get 10 points with a victory anyway. one of us is clearly not reading and I hope it isn't me | ||
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On April 06 2017 19:47 beentheredonethat wrote: "I will do [whatever]" is always scummy. Don't promise, do. this is btw one of the worst entrance sequences I have ever seen - btdt calls koshi scum for making a promise - (even though koshi basically promised to be lazy and he does that every game) - btdt says it's worth a push (1 step removed from a promise) - btdt does not push koshi but I will give him the benefit of the doubt on being scum for now | ||
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On April 07 2017 00:52 Koshi wrote: Tumble is obvious town. Tumble pls explain your mindmeld pls. idk where you're getting obv town already but as for the mindmeld: reading calix attack btdt was like watching my own thoughts as I read his posts. our thought processes just lined up really well I feel like I'm just explaining what a mindmeld is but there's not much more to say | ||
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On April 07 2017 01:09 Shapelog wrote: + Show Spoiler + How does the post make him scummy (cba to reopen filter from calix On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote: So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia? Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc. On April 06 2017 19:58 Calix wrote: Your opening post stood out to me because I looked at it and I could not tell what you were trying to do/ say since it didn't say anything. A post for the sake of making a post is probably a better way to put it. If you think that, where is your vote...? On April 06 2017 19:58 Calix wrote: Your opening post stood out to me because I looked at it and I could not tell what you were trying to do/ say since it didn't say anything. A post for the sake of making a post is probably a better way to put it. If you think that, where is your vote...? Versus: If anything, Tumble's post is a TLDR of Calix's train of thought/posts/points that were spread out during that time. Which if he was mafia, could easily be faked if need be. well yeah because calix was making good points and it seemed like they went over everyone's heads | ||
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On April 07 2017 01:58 beentheredonethat wrote: Actually reading Tumblewood's filter: there is NO (absolutely no!) contribution to the game. Just banter. Besides that easily to be made up post. ##vote Tumblewood do something how bout you do something first and I do something about that something (I think you are bad town who thinks contributions mean anything. thankfully you are transparent. I think.) | ||
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On April 07 2017 03:21 beentheredonethat wrote: The main difference between us two is that I actually do something: I interact with people (i.e. making myself readable), I drop reads, I push here and pressure there, and I try to stay reasonable. You do nothing. nah I'm pretty content with having three reads that I think are right with as little as has happened so far and what ever happened to that push on koshi | ||
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On April 07 2017 03:55 beentheredonethat wrote: I was able to find two. What's the third? duh when I called you bad town. you are so righteous | ||
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On April 07 2017 03:56 beentheredonethat wrote: It's not hard to give town reads. Are you in for some scumreads? maybe when I decide I don't like someone | ||
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On April 07 2017 14:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't think she is trying to find mafia. She enters into arguments that can never achieve anything and she isn't even trying to achieve anything in those arguments except for discrediting the player on the other side of the argument. hi I checked your filter and 100% of your stuff since sl entered is about sl's entrance post. so I guess my question is what do you hope to get out of pressing on that one post | ||
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On April 07 2017 14:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: I had a question for you Tumblewood. Here is the post in question: This post is referring to this post on mine: And here is how you explain it later. Now, what did you think my question for sicklucker in the first place was referring to? If it is - how i meant it - "why do you think you are getting more points as mafia than as town?" , how do you explain your last post as an answer because it has nothing to do with what i asked? it does? you asked why he thought that, and then I said "no he thought that and then realized he was wrong and changed his mind". and I thought it was a pointless line of questioning because it was so plainly obvious. | ||
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On April 07 2017 14:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like you can't jsut say something that makes absolutely no sense at all and then brush it off by "you're tunneling something completely irrelevant". That's not how this game works and you very well know it so just play the fucking game or don't join if you are not going to play. ok but in this case it is irrelevant and it does make sense to everyone but you | ||
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On April 07 2017 14:24 beentheredonethat wrote: Lynching sicklucker is also fine. Im not thinking hes town. also my spidey senses are going off on this. *pending further unspecified action* | ||
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On April 07 2017 14:30 sicklucker wrote: fuck you tumblewood that post was within 2 seconds of mine fun fact: earlier today I refreshed the thread after it had been dead for a couple hours and found a new rayn post posted 1 second before I refreshed | ||
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On April 07 2017 14:42 sicklucker wrote: also I made a mental note to never suck up to tumbleweed when im mafia because he gets super paranoid. not whats happening here :D. Right tumbleweed. but is that not what I would say as mafia? ![]() idk man you are truly unreadable and infinitely mysterious on d1. wouldn't make any judgments yet eh | ||
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so I check in frequently for 24 hours and no one posts, and then when I'm sleeping everyone spams the shit out of everything. fuckin euros | ||
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On April 07 2017 15:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: Where did your townread on him come from in the first place (Tumble)? if you mean btdt, it's because he is super self-righteous even when he is saying something bad and wrong. especially from newer scum I would expect more careful consideration I am waiting to see what he does next though because he is in limbo right now | ||
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he still could be town but I don't really wanna lynch anyone who is not him or rels | ||
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On April 08 2017 04:04 beentheredonethat wrote: I like Shape's posts. They seem to make sense. Then again they also seem to always summarize what others do/did and they might lack original value. I'm too tired right now to really dive Shape's filter and check but it might be an incentive for [insert whoever is willing to do the work] but they're all him deliberating for seven paragraphs to ultimately reach a waffly conclusion and not say anything interesting | ||
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On April 08 2017 04:05 Shapelog wrote: So you want to lynch me because others are scum reading me but are not lynching me, which is out of my control? Because the rest you hedge on. yeah, basically. in theory scum could frame you and I would be none the wiser. but afaik that has never happened ever so idc | ||
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I could believe 6/7 people posting are town tomorrow | ||
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On April 08 2017 04:26 Shapelog wrote: isnt the point of voting logic figuring out people's alignment based off the votes? Regardless if rels votes or not or knowing his alignment, Why cant you do vote logic? I think you can usually figure out whether the lynch is on town or scum in the hour before, based on wagon logic if there is only one active scum that goes down the drain | ||
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On April 08 2017 05:01 Shapelog wrote: I disagree strongly, Yes you typically can guess one hour before flip in some cases, but in this one. We only have 2 mafia. So if Rels is mafia, there is still one mafia who is either afk OR actively misleading town. If you assume that Rels is mafia, and suspect one person is actively misleading town, then you still have one person actively misleading town. The fact that Rel's is afk makes no difference to the fact that that person is still messing up town. Therefore, you can still do voting logic I.E. looking at when someone vote. Who took what wagon etc. Saying you cant find the other person (or I guess in your case, make more points against me) is far from reality. if rels is mafia then the mafia have as much thread pull as one townie. they cannot really decide wagons. if there are two active mafia, they can work together to make sure the lynch is neither of them, and unless they fold hard (unlikely given the quality of players) that will probably be true at deadline. unfortunately I can't make a read based on that if there is a 25% chance it's not true | ||
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On April 08 2017 05:03 Shapelog wrote: EWOP: Saying you cant use it to find the other person [...] the point is not to find the other person. (not before the flip, anyway.) the point is I feel super badass whenever I use wagon logic to call a lynch, and theoretically we could even switch off town to scum | ||
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On April 08 2017 05:13 Shapelog wrote: Are we just talking about wagon logic or Voting logic? Bc when you say voting logic my mind goes to VCA and that jazz? Also fighting over glory? wagon logic. like, "are the people one this wagon good," and, "are they town," and, "how strongly do they believe in it" (and the glory thing is why I like doing it. also because votes are less nebulous than tone) | ||
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rels (shape) have some qualms about lynching sl koshi (calix) not lynching today df rayn btdt | ||
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(what would I possibly be voting him for other than afkness?) | ||
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On April 08 2017 05:57 Rels wrote: ? First, why are you not keeping that for later when I start posting stuff ? Second, if you really did that research why do you not know that I'm NEVER motivated to play at the beginning of the game ? Lots of game I AFK half of D1 or more. (re: part 1) I am? I haven't told anyone what my current method of reading you is (re: part 2) that is not quite true. plus a lot of the time when you afk you give the impression that you have no time to play, not that you are unmotivated | ||
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On April 09 2017 07:39 sicklucker wrote: Tumblewood raynpelikoneet koshi darthfoley beentheredonethat Rels Shapelog something like that mostly paranoid of rels because hes second no my list as most likely mafia even tho its probably shapelog yeah this is exactly where I am except sl is somewhere on the list. probably above btdt with like 1 letter colored green | ||
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On April 10 2017 14:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: I would still like to hear from Tumble that how on earth is this a good reasoning to place a vote on someone over another person. lynching shapelog *at some point* felt more inevitable, meaning it was less likely to be a wasted lynch. I think you pointed out some vca thing why vote logic said I should always go for calix, and you were probably right, but it turns out that didn't matter anyway. | ||
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On April 11 2017 00:03 darthfoley wrote: So you think scum!Calix would try to be cordial with her partner in a game with lots of veterans? there are one and a half fatal assumptions here one is that calix was trying to do that, which would just be silly. the other being that calix might do that to a particular townie, which is highly improbable | ||
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idk, it's just one of those things you don't think about as scum. not that you couldn't, just that you don't. plus it would only be useful if calix flips and town calls it out, which is not easily foreseeable from the first 24 hours | ||
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On April 11 2017 15:19 darthfoley wrote: When did btdt go from "not lynching today" to being in the scummy side of your reads list, and why? Was it simply because he voted off the Calix wagon? yeah everyone on the calix wagon moved up when she flipped scum. and btdt looks even worse after that shitty i-don't-want-to-vote-shape-but-##vote:shapelog post. | ||
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On April 11 2017 20:51 beentheredonethat wrote: Coming back to this, talking about the first part of your sentence: you're just repeating what Shape said (and what I said), only exchanging names. You're saying "scum is in the people who did not vote for Calix". Which is what everyone said before, some (including me) elaborated more on that, others didn't. Only difference is that you moved me from "don't lynch" to "scum" while moving Rels to the town pile althoug he didn't do anything. Anything. At all. How has Rels "put himself into a position" when the lynch was very clearly on Shapelog? There was no way to not have the lynch on Shape D2. And Rels continued not playing over the course of D2, so how do you imply any sort of activity here? You're basically saying "Rels did nothing but I townread him now because Shape flipped and Rels had nothing to do with Shape flipping" and use this to finalize your scumread on me. It just doesn't make sense. >.< maybe "does enough things" is a bad and arbitrary way to measure rowdiness frequently not even indicating alignment and maybe scum would put themselves in a position to start pushing a different townie after a mislynch by having them as a secondary scumread | ||
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On April 12 2017 16:29 Koshi wrote: Tumble and Rels , can you both please make a case on each other? like, on why he's scum? you're gonna have to convince me first, because I'm only like 50% sure | ||
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the fact that he was on calix's wagon is kinda eh because he busses a lot, and so does everyone on the site really | ||
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On April 13 2017 07:12 beentheredonethat wrote: I'm not saying he's doing things though. ok but you have ragged on me all game for this reason. and yet rels is doing it but even worse and you're still voting me? that's what I don't get | ||
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I don't need your shit | ||
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On April 13 2017 07:58 Koshi wrote: You just started your 4th page of filter and the first post on your 3rd page is from the 7th of April. And from that point it is all low content nothing possible AI posts. Pretty sad. If you are town you are not even trying to put pressure on the mafia. you just started your 9th page and your first 7 and a half pages are from the 7th of april tsk tsk aight now I can concentrate | ||
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the only productive thing I can do rn is dig up bad rels posts though | ||
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current state of affairs: rels 60% - idk, unimpressive in all ways, kinda PoE but I wish it weren't koshi 25% - kinda tilted but there is some legit paranoia mixed into this read. I think we wrote him off too early. btdt 10% - the more I talk about it the more I remember why he is town df 5% - just in case | ||
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exhibit a: sl I don't remember the exact terminology but rels' read that I have always seen for so is looking for a particular burst of posts that shows he really cares about the game. in comparison, his read on sl from this game: He focused on himself and he's not hiding it, and he's focused on his read on you because of it. It doesn't add anything for him as scum. It's not good looking for him. It wastes time that is all. But he's doing it anyway. (which is also sl every game, and rels knows this) exhibit b: justifications rels does not really hunt for reads, consider, and then vote. it goes make the read, and justify it while voting. notice with the shapelog lynch, rels makes the read but then over the day justifies it a couple times, even though it was always a foregone conclusion. also with me: he effectively wrote me off, but then as soon as he needed to he came up with a post of reasons why I should be lynched, not only limited to PoE. kinda a numbers thing but rels justifies first much more as scum exhibit c: questions rels is a 1/10 on the inquisitive scale this game. occasionally asking for clarification, but no pressure and no desire to actually gain more information, which is a big part of his town game i hope not too much has changed in the last 14 hours b/c I wrote all this without seeing anything new | ||
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I was hoping to sleep after posting this | ||
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I don't quite know why Koshi changed his mind? but I'll take it and question in the morning if you all randomly decide you want to kill me again try to save it for later. but last will lynch rels but keep an eye on koshi. I haven't seen anything in particular from him but y'know, sleeper scum and all that so stay paranoid | ||
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On April 14 2017 16:30 Koshi wrote: I could actually doubt it is TW but w.e. Let's lynch him I guess ??? | ||
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probably not though. gotta give it the old college try with koshi | ||
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On April 15 2017 04:55 darthfoley wrote: So you're still committed to btdt and SL being town? yup. if they're town then everything I know is wrong and I really can't afford to deal with that reality in this situation probably going to write you off too. even if I thought you were scum there is 0 material to case you with | ||
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On April 15 2017 20:41 Koshi wrote: This post is bad because it nowhere shows that you have been in this game paying attention. It's a summary of 1 page and you have forgotten all other things. it is a good post b/c it calls you two out for some scummy/bad shit | ||
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On April 15 2017 23:58 sicklucker wrote: tumble if your mafia concede plz i wanna know if one of these bastards are mafia not | ||
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one thing I've gotta ask: sl, Koshi, how did you know what the other was doing without a qt to coordinate it? like why did Koshi not yell about a fakeclaim? | ||
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On April 16 2017 05:42 beentheredonethat wrote: Killing the doctor is not in the interest of the last scum? Ok. I wouldn't kill sl, but that's just because if I kill him or df then whoops I suddenly have 2 votes unswervingly going against me. if anyone I'd probably have killed you | ||
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On April 16 2017 12:50 sicklucker wrote: wait wut? why foley over btdt what changed? I realized most of the things I thought I knew were wrong | ||
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On April 16 2017 12:59 sicklucker wrote: well reading tumble reads filter he just makes up reads or does not right down when or why they change which is not really helpful that is how I roll | ||
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cause first of all stop this. secondly sl don't throw by lynching me then btdt. btdt is an unfakeable level of righteous this game and like 90% town | ||
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first of all I am already past my longest time alive as scum secondly my filter is kinda shit but you've really gotta rethink your standards, because I die like this every game | ||
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it is obvious from the way btdt posts that he sees himself as a sort of glorious crusader like how he got offended at being called good town. scum!btdt takes that and rolls with it, because bad town is bad. but btdt is mad because he thinks he's on the right track | ||
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On April 17 2017 10:20 darthfoley wrote: what has his track been? He hasn't been on any sort of track you are missing the point. his actual track doesn't matter. but he really thinks he's solving the game | ||
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On April 17 2017 10:19 sicklucker wrote: no im here prop still lynching you i thought you were my friend | ||
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On April 17 2017 10:26 sicklucker wrote: i hope your town so my soul reads are not 0-2 but this feels like the play considering my options i am ugh | ||
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On April 17 2017 10:27 sicklucker wrote: like your telling me the last mafia of the three is the guy that was first to vote and push mafia made the most sense all game and had the same ideas as me. fuck that ill take my chances congratulations you have found the good player but not the town | ||
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On April 17 2017 10:28 sicklucker wrote: damn can i even hammer df yes pls | ||
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gg town. thanks for carrying me. at least 4 people played really well this game so kudos to them at least i was right once this game | ||
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